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Cassidy, Florida — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:54:13 GMT

I Love Pi Day!!! I want to wish everybody a happy Pi day!!!

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Hardluck Hollywood Harold (Hx3) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:39:27 GMT

I luv Pi !!! 3.14159265 gotta know it by heart if ya work in Electronics !

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math geek, silicon valley — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:13:47 GMT

Pi r square. Cake are round.

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Paul J.S. Beaubien Victoria British Columbia Canada — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:43:04 GMT

Pi as a whole number ? Yes the process is based upon establishing the quotient of one dimensional space and then building the ratio of the diameter and circumference with reference to the numberfields basis,,this is possible because the quotient of one dimensional space is both volumetric,directional and the volumetric relation has both even and odd values which allows for the wave's peak and trough which is to say the top bottem and middle of each whole number point in the ratios value;If you'd like I can email you the base data point of the 'Geometric Arrays' along with the metrically rationalized value of 'one squared'

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Jim V — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:03:17 GMT

.....to a trillion digits, with no end in sight.If that is not a glimpse into the profound beauty of the universe then I don't know what is! Albert said it best, there are only two ways to view the universe,the first is that nothing is a miracle, and the second, that everything is.Happy birthday,Albert!

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John Doe — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:46:27 GMT

How I like a drink alcoholic of course after the heavy chapters involving quantum mechanics
3.141592654

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Skip Z., Exeter, NH — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:05:05 GMT

Where would we be without Pi?
Happy Pi Day!

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Joseph Basile, Worcester, MA — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:10:39 GMT

Pi, expressed in base Pi, is exactly equal to Pi.

Pi, expressed in base Pumpkin, is exactly equal to delicious.

Wow I feel like a geek.

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R.A.T.I.O.N.A.L. — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:26:40 GMT

One dimensional "space"?

(I think someone's been reading the Time Cube site for a little too long)

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:35:07 GMT

Waitress, I'd like some Cherry 3.141592 please! This could be one of those numbers that kids remember from geometry and never fully understand.

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txdog, seattle — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:46:20 GMT

its Pi r round, cornbread r square

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Joseph Basile, Worcester, MA — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:06:21 GMT

Correction:

Pi in base Pi is equal to 10.

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Blind Howlin, Knoxville, Tennessee — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:32 GMT

and it's on Einstein's birthday. Coincidence? I think not...

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Dennis, Richmond VA — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:52:02 GMT

I memprized 3.14159265358979 in high school... I stopped when I realized I would never have a use for it. :)

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Meli — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:55:09 GMT

Happy Pi Day...All is FULL CIRCLE today!
;D

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Rick, Durham, NC — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:57:54 GMT

Pizza for lunch!

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R. Murdock, Alto, Texas — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:04:05 GMT

Since there is no such thing as a circle, you can't expect to have a whole number define it. If you could determine the number of lines or sides to circle you could have a whole number define it. Since a circle is actually a polygon, so why is there such a fuss about Pi?

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Peter Davey, Bournemouth, Great Britain — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:23:05 GMT

With regard to the question of interesting children in science, might I suggest that a slight change in vocabulary might help. I refer to the word "geek" - a term originally used to describe carnival "entertainers" who would bite the heads from live chickens, and now, tastes having changed, borrowed to describe people who show an unhealthy degree of intelligence.

If you think that this is simply a question of my own dislike, I can refer you to the writings of the late Professor Stephen Jay Gould. In his book, "Bully for Brontosaurus", he refers to his childhood, describing how any child who showed an interest in learning would be subject to what Gould referred to as a "litany of hatred" - "Nerd", "Dweeb",
"Wonk", "Geek", etc. As he said, one item in that list is always current.

He added that people should not consider those, such as himself, who survived the abuse and went on to prosper in their chosen careers, but the others, who ended up being deterred by the abuse, and abandoned their dreams; victims of an "anti-intellectual environment". For every one such as himself who succeeded he could not count the others, who betrayed their pontential because some "swaggering fellow had called them "nerd" in the playground".

There is, I believe, an old Spanish proverb: "The pain from a blow may heal; the pain from a word may never heal."

Those wishing to try for a career in science face enough in the way of obstacles and pain, as Professor Gould made clear, without facing any more from people who are supposed to be encouraging them.

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Mike Dooley — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:52:33 GMT

Ah, my radius feels properly squared, this day...

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Giles, Redmond, Washington — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:01:22 GMT

The pies on Pi day should be square, since everyone knows Pi r sqared. :)

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JT, Colorado Springs, CO — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:18:41 GMT

Here is a sentence I use to remember the first 10 digits of pi. Count the letters in each word.

May I have a large container of coffee, thank you?

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Delmar Fairchild, Barron, WI — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:50:49 GMT

Because everything is based on circular orbits in the universe, (planets around the sun, the electrons around the neucleus, galaxies around a black hole) the numbers in Pi may hold some answer to how the universe works. If Pi never ends, would it also mean the universe could never end or is it infinitesmaly large also? Has anyone focused on the numbers themselves in the trillion that has been calculated? There might be patterns that could show us something.
-Unless the patterns continually only show the ratio of a circle's circumference to its width.-
Pi may show us the real diameter of the universe. Pi certainly is a fascinating number.
By the way, in what time zone is the 1:59 valid? I have 10 mintues to go here in Wisconsin.

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Ken Grant, Newark, DE — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:03:17 GMT

Someone from our company drove 3.14 miles to the nearest pie shop to bring back in time to celebrate at 1:59 in the afternoon - check it out here: http://www.analtech.com/analtech-celebrates-pi-day-2008.html

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Dennis McClain-Furmanski, Dalworthington Gardens, Texas — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:02:28 GMT

Jim V says: ".....to a trillion digits, with no end in sight.If that is not a glimpse into the profound beauty of the universe then I don't know what is!"

If not beauty, then certainly mystery. Some would argue that it's not beautiful because the number isn't a neat figure, but rather an (presumably)infinitely long irrational (and some would say the opposite). In any case, why is it the number it is? Might it take a different value under different circumstances? Since the expansion of the universe is apparently changing (and possibly, according to some theories the speed of light, gravitational constant or other fundamental values) might pi also be changing? It is, after all, taken from a circles, which lies in a flat plane. If the curvature of space-time is changing, then "flat" and therefore pi might also. It wouldn't appear to locally, but might if we could see a circle say, 13 billion light years away (so 13 billion years ago, about as far back as is visible).

And indeed, it is Smilin' Uncle Albert's B-day. I wonder if Larry Shaw was aware of this when he dreamed up Pi Day. I suspect not. It's also the anniversary of the debut of "Fanfare for Common Man". It's also the day I chose to get married, not knowing at the time it was my scientific hero's birthday or the anniversary of the song we chose as "our song". So there's some more mystery for you, and yes, some beauty.

(Ooooh Alan... "Irrationally big deal"? I love it.)

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David M, Tucson, Arizona — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:02:59 GMT

Paul from BC...Reading your blurb has caused my Eyes to cross...Bringing math and science to our future generations is pivotal for the US. More and more the Tech industry (more engineering) is loosing precious jobs to the highly educated Foreigners. Recently MSNBC published an article (Feat. commentary from Bill Gates) that truely puts a grim spin on our ability to fill US jobs with US citizens. I agree whole heartedly that Math and Science should be made more 'fun' in order for our children to take interest.

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J Pop, NPR Florida — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:17:28 GMT

I'll have mine ala mode

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John Doe, Greenwich — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:25:59 GMT

The real geeks should celebrate it on 3/14 at 1:59 a.m. first time, then on 3/14 at 1:59 p.m. second and

on 3/14 at 15:9:26 when the time lines up to form the first EIGHT digits of the mysterious and marvelous number.

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Jaycubed — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:30:12 GMT

Although pi is called an irrational number it can easily be expressed as a ratio algebraically:

∏ = C/D - where C=Circumference and D=Diameter of any circle.

∏ = A/RxR - where A=Area and R=Radius of any circle.

Pi is a simple ratio as long as you don't use integers.

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pi (maniacal laughter) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:02:23 GMT

Pi should be cursed not celebrated. It is a never-ending evil number-spirit that traps us into circular reasoning and actions and never releases us, e.g. make enemies, attack enemies, make more enemies, attack more enemies with more weapons, make bigger enemies, attack bigger enemies with bigger weapons, make smart enemies, attack smart enemies with smart weapons...wait one generation, learn nothing from previous generation...make enemies, attack enemies.....There is no escape. Curse you pi!

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Jason, Plano, TX — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:39:50 GMT

Ask any Greek, and they'll tell you that pi is pronounced "pee" and not "pie". Now that's an untapped reservoir of jokes...

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Angel, Portland, Oregon — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:05:21 GMT

i always thought pi day should be on july 22, since 22/7 is the exact value of pi.... and 3.14 is way off from being exact... but oh well, which every day they put it on, pi day is still great fun :)

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Susan Davis, Fort Worth,Tx — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:38:59 GMT

I am mathematically challenged, but my favorite concept is the Mobius Strip. Any comments? I find it to be quite useful in everyday function (equal distribution of wear and tear of belts, i.e. conveyor), and that a simple straight line can evolve into a beautiful ribbon of art.

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Raj Bhagati, washington dc — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:06:18 GMT

I like the idea of pi day being July 22 too!

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Des Emery, St. Thomas, ON, Canada — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:18:30 GMT

Logic says that we will never be able to 'square' the circle, but that pi (the number expressing the relationship between a circle's diameter and its circumference) will come closer and closer to 100% accuracy the more defined the relationship becomes.

That's because we use a series of triangles, smaller and smaller within the circle to compute the area enclosed by the boundary perimeter. Each triangle can be measured for area, then the total computed. The more triangles that can be fitted into the circle's embrace, the more accurate the total will be.

But a triangle always has straight sides and a straight 'bottom' so that there is always some un-measured spaces between the triangle bottoms and the curved side of the circle. There will never be a co-incidence of the two forms, no matter how large the circle or how small the triangles.

Dennis M-F must know that a two-dimensional circle, rotated through three dimensions, becomes a perfect globe, and we live in a three-dimensional universe with lots of globes in it, even if they're not perfectly formed. Looking backwards in time by looking far away would not show us a 'distortion' since time would be as curved as space. If space is curved. Good topic for philosophical discussion.

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M. Larson — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:08:08 GMT

e^pi*i = -1

This is a proof that God exists, from your friend, Euler.

You math nerds will know why this little formula is so cool. (But for everyone else - it's so damn cool, because you have two irrational numbers, with an imaginary number, all rolled up in a cute little formula that equals, of ALL things, a nice, neat little integer, -1)

And for giggles, go see what happens when you express Pi in base 11. Yes, yes, you will smile.

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Frank Glover — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:42:02 GMT

"Because everything is based on circular orbits in the universe, (planets around the sun, the electrons around the neucleus, galaxies around a black hole)"

Planetary (and stellar orbits within a galaxy) are rarely, if ever, perfetcly circular but elliptical, even if only slightly.

Even perfect circles are just a special case of ellipses with an eccentricity of zero. (just as squares are a special case of all rectangles)

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Jaycubed — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:09:11 GMT

since 22/7 is the exact value of pi.... and 3.14 is way off from being exact...
Angel, Portland, Oregon

22/7 (or 3.14285714286) is not the exact value of pi and is only slightly closer to pi (roughly 0.0011 closer) than 3.14.

Personally I use 3.1416 as an approximation of pi. Also closer than 22/7.

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Dhreeti Ranjan Basu — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:35:14 GMT

Wheel is great discovery for human civilization and PI completed its proper utilization.

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Paul J.S. Beaubien — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:39:13 GMT

In response to those who have expressed perplexity at that person who has claimed that the ratio of Pi can be expressed as a whole number: Without first defining an absolute value of one dimensional space there is nothing that can then be measured in the higher levels of dimensionality,,each higher level of dimensionality must by its own nature be able to be directly related to both the higher and lower levels of dimensionality ,,my work towards simplifying the value was directed by the necessity of a value that holds both when calculating huge distances and atomic distances,,can you imagine biological computations involving a million place values of a specific number that some computer needs to preform before an action can be taken or perhaps telling the ships computer here is a million,plus, place value number and vast light year numbers... and having to wait till the computer has finished its calculations before plotting the vector the ship will take,,so trust me the number has to be simple and absolute and because of the need to have interrelation between the various dimensions number fields become the basic methodology...There is nothing in this word sequence from me that is not found on the document I have authored titled the Mathematics of Peace,the Geometric arrays are real,the delamination sequence valid,and the even and odd values of the delamination of 'one squared' drawing I have done quite reviewable,,I have offered this much for free to all people,, However,beyond It further mathematics will only be disclosed within nondisclosure documents

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Jaycubed — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:54:39 GMT

Here is Paul J.S. Beaubien's work, "the Mathematics of Peace".

http://www.independent-panel-independant.ca/pdf/submission-114.pdf

As fine an example of crank mathematics as I've seen in a while, it was a submission to The Independent Panel on Canada's Future Role in Afghanistan.

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Matheus Lin, São Carlos, SP, Brazil — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:52:53 GMT

Hello!
I reached this page looking for "pi base 11" in Google, and I saw the message from M. Larson. I've read "Contact", and, there, it says something secret about calculating Pi in base 11. I made a program to convert a decimal number to base 11, and used it into a very large Pi text. However, I don't know *how* to look for an information. Does anyone have a clue? look only at the 1's and 0's? Must look to all digits? Where should I "break the line" to see it?!!?

Is there any chance I could talk to M. Larson??

thank you! =D

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hiren,surat,gujarat — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:41:03 GMT

pi is the ratio of diameter of earth to the circumference of earth.