Al Gore for science czar?

Terry Conerly, Lufkin,Tx. — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:51:40 GMT

Gore,,,, The sky is falling. What a joke.

Al Gore for science czar?

KAC, Albuquerque, NM — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:57:44 GMT

I am so tired of Al Gore. I hope that by now everyone is aware that Mr. Gore has been shown to be wrong in almost all of his statements on the subject of why the planet is warming. Al Gore is exactly why science should not be filtered through politics. All those who realize that water vapor accounts for 95% of all greenhouse gasses in our atmosphere and that 97% of the remainder is naturally occuring co2 and other gasses please smile and nod at those who are trying to convince us otherwise.

Al Gore for science czar?

L.L. Stewart, Missouri — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:04:46 GMT

No way a politician should be a science czar.
Al Gore would be an insult to real, informed, analytical scientists.

Al Gore for science czar?

Rich, Grand Rapids, MI — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:33:23 GMT

OOHH PUH-LEEZ! He already invented the internet, and now this? Next thing you know he'll want to be president...

Al Gore for science czar?

CM, Boston, MA — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:58:11 GMT

Wow, dude didn't anyone ever tell you, no scientist has doubted global warming for I don't know, ten years maybe, and yes it is humans' fault. Take any high school environmental science class and you would know that much, or if you don't believe in education listen to someone who does, and who does know environmental science. Yes Gore dumbed down his climate presentations, but they were all based on good science and accurate.

Al Gore for science czar?

Steve Fowler, Fort Worth, Texas — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:02:45 GMT

Al Gore for science adviser? How about Al Gore for ... Vice President! There's no constitutional reason I can find why Mr. Gore can't be elected and serve again as Vice President of the United States. Think of the advantages. The Vice President has functioned as the President's informal science czar in most administrations since the Kennedy years. With eight years of experience, Gore already knows the official and more subtle aspects of the job. And in case of the death or incapacitation of the President, Mr. Gore would make an able Chief Executive--more so than some other VPs who have been elevated to the higher office. If Mr. Gore is not nominated as a Vice Presidential candidate, I suggest a non-partisan, grass-roots campaign on his behalf. It would be a great way to show that the people still hold the real power in these United States. Let's go with Gore for VP in '08.

Al Gore for science czar?

Jerry M. Weikle, Newport News, Virginia — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:30:29 GMT

I personally would like to see Al Gore as science advisor or even as President. The scientific community has been informing students of the potential of Global Warming, in University level courses. The Business community, however, has been slow to react because of the potential monitary losses--the insurance industry with Hurrican Katrina is a prime example. Why is it that humans have this need to build expensive homes near the coast lines, knowing that storms and eventually the entire coast is going to be underwater. Trillions of U.S. Dollars and infrastructure exist along the coastline of American, along with the megacities and population. All of which is going to have to be relocated inland, in the interest of National Security and the various Think Tanks-CNA. It is time for America to wake up and see the long term effects and affect that are occuring with the environment instead of being swindled by Republican Narrowminded Bush-ites interested only in the oil reserves and their pocketbook or Allen Greenspans pocketbook and those stock options.

Al Gore for science czar?

Charles M, Tampa, Fl, — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:01:02 GMT

I have no true reason to doubt Global warming, nor do I have a reason to support Global Warming. Science is just as divided on the issue. This is sort of funny when you look at the fact that our country is completely divided. What I can say is that any extra chemicals we put in the atmosphere is a "BIG DEAL". Let’s say we have a scale that can balance 100 million tons total. Now let’s say that one ton represents the amount of bad chemicals we put in the atmosphere a year. Now CO2 is the most abundant but not the only one. Now we place one ton on each side of the scale. At this point the scale is balanced. Now for kicks and giggle we will go with a small number here, say an extra 1 percent added to one side to match the amount of harmful chemicals we added. Do you follow. One side represents they way our atmosphere should be and the other side represents they way our atmosphere is. From here you’re not going to see the scale dip. Even though one side is heavier then the other, but lets not forget that our oceans help cycle CO2 out of the atmosphere. So lets just say it will suck out about 30% (I forget the actually amount) but you still wont see the scale tip. “BUT” after time that extra 1% would start to make a different and the scale would start to till to the heavier side. So to me this is a problem and it is a dire problem because if we don’t start now will never start to move in the right direction. Politics has shown that time and time again by the time we try to tackle a problem it so far gone we can’t control it and aren’t even sure where to begin. i.e…Medicare, Social Security, Education, and so fourth. Some people like Gore might be blowing it out of proportion (then again they might not be) but if they don’t then will never move to better our children’s future. The last generation left us a mess and we woll do the same if we don’t act. Whether in my daughters’ generation or my grandchildren’s generation that feels the effects, someone will feel it.

Al Gore for science czar?

Dave Long, Cerritos, CA — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:36:49 GMT

Al Gore is helping us by informing us of the dangers of Global Warming,,,..... Or,,,,... He is getting very rich...FOLLOW THE MONEY!! You are not going to be a Sheople if you look for the root cause. $$$

Al Gore for science czar?

steve smyth lynn ma — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:18:02 GMT

RE Algore...stress the Czar part, and he'll think it's another award.
I cannot believe that he is getting all this push without a single comment RE...his Father was the consummate Ugly American/Influence Peddler, and his Wife committed the most public assault on The First Amendment ever...apparently just to prove she could.
This guy believes we will sway Global thought via Moral Authority.
Plus, he's a sorry example to young people of Those of The Age...PERIOD!
Don't believe a word he says...it's all legacy building and epitaph spiffing...him and his goomba Branson...if you want the real skinny on The Climate Crisis...click my name and follow a few links...
howabout Climate Czar...he who is in charge of GeoEngineering Earth's New Climate...nothing compared to Administering Space...we got guys doing that, eh...GEEZ!

Al Gore for science czar?

John Sposato, Pasadena, D — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:31:34 GMT

Hey, CM in Boston. I'm a science teacher and if you're going to use what's taught in a high school science class as your standard of truth, think again. I don't know where you get your information, but there are thousands of scientists who doubt anthropogenic global warming. Google "global warming petition project" and see 19000 names of scientists who have done just that -- and put their names to it.
The global warming hysteria has to be replaced by reasoned dialogue and continued research. Instead, we get pop science doled out by a liberal press bent on seeing mankind and civilization as some kind of environmental infestation. Hopefully, as the truth emerges, reason will prevail.

Al Gore for science czar?

B.C.Madden,Mingo Jc't. Ohio — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:32:59 GMT

Gore for science czar...whatta joke!He's so full of himself no room would be left for the true scientists
We all know that our use of fossil fuel needs to be reduced but the earth's natural cycle also plays a big part in the problem which includes Gore.

Al Gore for science czar?

Stella, North Las Vegas, NV — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:48:27 GMT

Alan, you've lost it. Get to your doctor Monday and get on some meds. Take some time off, get some rest. Let your mind clear, I'm worried about you.

Al Gore for science czar?

Looey Munn, Roundup, MT — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:54:33 GMT

AL GORE IS NOT BEING TRRANSPARENT AND TELLING US HOW MUCH MONEY HE GETS FROM HIS SIDE OPERATIONS AND ALARMIST TACTICS...IT IS ENOUGH THO THAT MILLIONS IS NOTHING TO HIM TO GIVE AWAY.

SCIENCE IS VERY DIVIDED ON GLOBAL WARMING AND WHETHER IT IS NORMAL, ARTIFICIAL, GOOD, BAD, OR WHAT, JUST THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THE "CONSENSUS" ARE FIRED, OR NOBODY WILL PUBLISH, ETC. CHECK THIS OUT!

Easy to have "agreement" when the opposition is silenced, isn't it?

Consensus is NOT scientific...in the Dark Ages the consensus of politicians, religious leaders, and all scientists was that the earth was the center of the universe...Remember? And the consensus was WRONG!

Think on this carefully. "Consensus" means 50% + 1 or more. Every time "Consensus" is used to claim total scientific backing or world-wide unanimity, remember the Dark Ages set civilization back fo a long time, and killed a lot of people...but it was the Consensus!!

Al Gore for science czar?

Tyler, Mesa, AZ — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:55:52 GMT

I liked Al Gore until I saw the inconvient truth. He seemed to over due some of the material in his movie and I don't think I would be able to trush him as a politician dealing with being a science czar.

Al Gore for science czar?

Looey Munn Roundup, MT — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:59:41 GMT

At least if we put Al Gore in as Science Czar, we will know for sure we have a good liar and a flaming hypocrite in office and can make allowances. Check with Snopes on-line to see the truth on his housing!

Al Gore for science czar?

Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:11:53 GMT

Why does the whole concept of "Global Warming" and "Carbon Credits" sound alot like the idea of "Sins" and "Indulgences" to me?

Al Gore for science czar?

Bob-a-son, Yukon, Ok. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:24:15 GMT

All you bleeding heart liberals and high school educated morons (anyone for remedial reading and math?)need to listen to Dave Long from Cerritos, Ca. and follow the money trail. When Al Gore sells his 10,000 sq. ft. home, SUVs and stops jetting around the world, then I might listen. Until then, he's just another hypocrite fooling a lot of feely good lost souls.

Al Gore for science czar?

Brett, TP.HCM,VN — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:50:50 GMT

I like the idea of a healthy planet, ecologically its good for everyone! But is this irrational preoccupation with activism becoming another way to stick our heads back behind the blinkers and just believe everything will be allright because we cleansed our atmosphere? In the next two hundred years our abilities to deal with challenges will increase but were inching closer to a probability of a bigger problem to be faced over the longer time periods aswell. Perhaps Science and Politics are better as united advocates but the two fields are their own institutions and should remain mindful of that, considering we need to get our best institutions working towards predicting many more possible outcomes and proposing new innovative ways to deal with them or consolidate or just evacuate!

So dude can you see this problem is only part of present problems (well worth debating its priority) and is a minor hiccup in our abilities to work through what this universe will be throwing at us in the future - Is that dumbed up enough for you dude!:)
Al Gore is a popularist!

Al Gore for science czar?

DD Nashville, TN — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:10:37 GMT

Al Gore as science czar... hey why not? He'd be great except for that little accuracy thing, but who needs accuracy in science. Its so much more fun to freak people out.

Why is it that every time someone mentions global warming the media trots out a politician or two and a few passionate actors. Call me crazy, but would it be better to discuss scientific theory with.... oh I don't know... maybe a scientist or two? They might not agree with popular opinion though...

Al Gore for science czar?

george of the jungle — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:25:33 GMT

actully i'm even more tired of george Bush

Al Gore for science czar?

David Banes, Atlanta, GA — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:51:48 GMT

This is a joke, right? The only thing Al Gore brings to the debate is a pack of reporters. The global warming crowd loves him because he brings them publicity. Did you "read" his book? It's mostly pictures. And the Academy Award wasn't about him - it was about the movie industry congratulating itself with him as their proxy. The idea of a science advisor has some appeal, but Al Gore??? Get serious, please.

Al Gore for science czar?

Des Emery, St. Thomas, ON, Canada — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:28:53 GMT

I don't know where KAC of Albuquerque and Charles M of Tampa got their 'facts' from but they should ask for their money back.

First, percentages don't really count, nor does an imaginary volume. Don't even bother to count, just use the eyes God gave you and the brains to go with them and look around you.

Second, apply some science to the situation. All the glaciers around the world are melting. Ice is the solid form of H2O and holds water up out of the oceans; when it melts, the water must run into the seas. Sea level will rise, flooding coastal areas, and lack of normal glacial melt as glacial headwaters become extinct will bring drought. The five Great Lakes, largest reservoir of fresh water in the world, are shrinking in both volume and in area covered. Check the computer upon which you write silly letters and look at the pictures of Alaska, Greenland, and even Africa, where you can watch the Snows of Kilimanjaro literally disappear.

Human beings, including you, are causing this to happen sooner rather than later, driving internal combustion vehicles, burning forests, dredging the seas lifeless. Do you care?

Al Gore for science czar?

Gregory Pratt, Richmond, VA — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:00:53 GMT

Global warming has been going on ever since the end of the last ice age. That's many hundreds of thousands of years. Much longer than the few hundreds of years mankind has been having a noticeable effect on the environment. Are we having some effect? Sure. Are we the sole cause of it? No. Could we stop it even if we wanted to? We could affect global warming about as effectively as when we tried to stop hurricanes by seeding clouds back in the 60's. As for Al Gore as a science czar? history has shown the terrible price paid by allowing religious zelots dictate scientific beliefs, we produce scientific facts such as the earth is flat and the universe revolves around the earth. Why should we believe a politician should produce anything better. I say let scientists do the research and develop their conclusions based on facts, not agendas.

Al Gore for science czar?

Ron Doe, Olympia, Wash — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:03:56 GMT

Al Gore? Remember Occidental Oil? Here's News!!! Unless you are very strict about what you eat, you are eating GMO(Genetically Modified Organism) foods daily.

It was in 1994 that the FDA first allowed the sale of RBST or RGBH(Genetically Modified Hormone injected into cows to increase their milk output). This causes a hugh increase of Mastitis (inflammation of the breast or udder usually caused by infection) in the cows not to mention an unnatural output of milk. This results in pus and blood in the milk (you are drinking it unless you get milk with no RBST or RGBH). To make sure you don't get sick from the pus and blood, the dairy companies add anti-biotics to the milk(this increases your immunity to anti-biotics and lowers the effectiveness of anti-biotics when you need them)

In 1996, The FDA approved the sale of GMO Foods. They use anti-biotics as a 'Marker gene' in GMO foods (Again, you are ingesting this unless you eat non-GMO food). You might be surprised at what else they are putting into GMO foods (Pesticides!). Look here for facts-www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biocon.html
Where are the hundreds of thousands of bees that disappeared this year? What happened to half of the monarch butterfly population? And who knows how many people are getting sick from GMOs. It is a fact that GMOs are found in the intestenes of bees. Read it and become wise - www.saynotogmos.org/scientific_studies.htm

Why are foreign and exotic plants placed in quarantine (isolation)? Why are GMO plants released into the wild
where they are mating with natural plants? What is the terminator gene?(google this)

1993 - 2000 were the Clinton/ Gore years. They are the ones that unleashed the GMO nightmare that we now live in. Look up Michael Taylor. Look at how he went from the FDA, to King and Spalding, back to the FDA to change the course of our food supply, and finally to lead Monsanto's public relations in Washington D.C. He is a cousin to either Al or Tipper Gore. Michael Taylor was the major consultant for the food lableing committee of the FDA that bullied almost all of the companies in the U.S. into NOT mentioning GMO's on their lables so that you and I had no understanding or choice as to what we were ingesting as far as milk or food went.

Al Gore for the environment..., I don't think so.

Also look up; www.organicconsumers.org

www.purefood.org/irradlink.html
Buy locally grown, Organic food!!!!!!!!!!!

Al Gore for science czar?

Rich, Grand Rapids, MI — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:49:09 GMT

I'm all for environmental responsibility and I do believe that Man (the Human race) has has a real, negative impact on the environment. Just anybody but Gore, like let's say a real scientist type person.

Al Gore for science czar?

Jono, from the planet of australia. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:18:08 GMT

An inconvenient truth is inconvenient to be FORCED to watch in science class. Al Gore has influenced politics and education enough, don't fuel his ego further.
And putting a creationist like F. Collins in government? You MUST be joking!
I would honestly prefer Bush, at least we can make fun of him without being harassed and ostracized by the people around us.
A war on terror and a war on drugs are far less irritating and painful than a war on heresy or a war on global warming.

Al Gore for science czar?

TK Buffalo NY — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:07:43 GMT

GORE = JOKE > there is simply no way around that.

Al Gore for science czar?

Bruce Campbell, Manhattan, NY — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:09:29 GMT

Al Gore is a political shyster. He has NO credibility what-so-ever as a scientist.

Al Gore for science czar?

R.Miale, Trenton, NJ — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:26:48 GMT

Politics? So now the dominant activity of our national government is politics, and to that purpose, we must avoid mixing in Science? And also Economics? Health? Compassion? Plumbing?

Al Gore for science czar?

thefalliblefiend, LORTON, VA — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:09:54 GMT

1. Not one scientist claims that humans are the sole cause global warming.
2. Scientist know very well that global warming has followed cycles for millenia: hot, cold, hot, cold (in relative terms).

HOWEVER,
3. By tracing ice layers, scientists have also discovered that the effects we are experiencing now are much stronger than in any of the hundreds of thousands of years of record.

Yes, a lot of industries are tied up in raping the planet, and yes a lot of people's livelihoods are at stake. Yes, also some industries hire shills to murky the waters and distract citizens while they go on about their business of profiting from deforestation, pollution, and supplying life-giving hydro-carbons to addicts the world over.

Al Gore for science czar?

RON FOOTE,KINGMAN,AZ. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:34:53 GMT

WOULD IT NOT BE A GREAT IDEA TO ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL SCIENTIST TO BE THE SCIENCE CZAR? HOW RADICAL IS THAT? AL GORE'S NEW SECULAR RELIGION IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Al Gore for science czar?

Crystal Hoyt, Joplin,MO — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:39:07 GMT

I think just because Al Gore has some experiance with global warming and film making, does NOT make him qualified for the job. He is a politician, not a scientist in the least.

Al Gore for science czar?

Old Timer, Washington, DC — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:41:46 GMT

How about SCIENCE ZERO?
What would the world be like now if his father had gotten his way back in the 1950's when he wanted to spread nuclear material around China and Soviet Union to keep them inside their own borders.

Al Gore for science czar?

Rob, Sturbridge, Ma. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:43:00 GMT

I am amazed reading some of the comments on this post. The ignorance and stupidity is staggering. This same unconscious American ignorance and stupidity is what got George Bush elected twice in this shame based country. It's alarming to read the posts of the red meat eaters here that are still in denial as to whether or not global warming is real and its impact disastrous for the human race.

Al Gore for science czar?

Jerry M. Weikle, Newport News, Virginia — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:07:31 GMT

KAC, Albuquerque and Gregory Pratt in Richmond. Sure there is water vapor in the atmosphere, and it is a greenhouse gas, the turn around time for water vapor is 10-15 days in the atmosphere. Carbon Dioxide remains in the atmosphere around 150 YEARS and Carbon Mononxide will remain even longer. Let the scientist do the research...on facts, not agendas. You are exhaling carbon dioxide, that is a fact. That carbon dioxide is mixing with the CFC's produced in China, which inturn is destroying the ozone layer. That is a fact. Now if the Sub-Sarahan Africans could get some trees to grow around lake Chad, prevent desertification, and absorbe your carbon dioxide--I might have some oxygen to breath. Oh, don't flush your toliet--it goes into the James River which floats down here, gets sucked into the water intake values and a few more chemicals later drips into my kitchen sink as drinking water! Wonder why the Chesapeake Bay is suffering--Washington D.C politicians in the Senate and House and their 30 lbs or more of intestinals problems. Oh, Great here comes a tidal wave [...]

Al Gore for science czar?

R Hogan — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:30:08 GMT

Ok 2 quick points

1. Al Gore CANNOT LOGICALLY be a hypocrite. If person claims an increase in X causes Y, but an increase in Z proportional to the increase in X OFFSETS cause Y. Persons increase of X is CANNOT logically be hypocritical if offset by Z.

2. The Science is NOT DIVIDED. Just because there is a minority dissenting opinion does not cause a 50-50 default proposition. That is a logical fallacy. More importantly, for those claiming it to be false. You are claiming that with the information you possess (at best 0.1% of info known to experts) that is all that is needed to make the opposite conclusion than the majority of experts in the field. WHich is basically saying, you are 1000x smarter than Scientific Experts. Quite a hubris statement indeed.

Al Gore for science czar?

lee sorey — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:35:16 GMT

What a joke Al Gore has become!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Al Gore for science czar?

Chris Lindeman, Hesperia, Ca — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:06:24 GMT

I think Al Gore is the most decent person there is. All these people that dislike him I don't where they come from. His record is spotless, he's caring, he's honest, he is trying to make a better place for us all. Yet, we have all these jerks putting him down.

We deserve to die in pollution and corruption, 'cause here's the guy to save us from it, but look at the comments below. It's a shame. I think if Gore should start a new country I would move there in a flash

Al Gore for science czar?

Aine Eithne — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:41:06 GMT

Al Gore may be the nicest person in the world, but he is not a scientist. The only person who should be the Science Czar is a scientist...

Al Gore for science czar?

Bud, Concord, Ca. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:45:37 GMT

Gore for:
Czar, ...no.
Court Jester,...YES.

Al Gore for science czar?

Jeri, Phx, AZ — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:05:47 GMT

I don't think we need a SCIENCE SZAR, we need more SCIENTISTS!

Al Gore for science czar?

Kirk Jameson — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:37:24 GMT

Al Gore is just ridiculous, and it is sad to watch our current agenda-driven media pump him up any chance they get. He is simply another enironmental wacko, an extremist. If it's hot, it is global warming. If it's cold, it is global warming. If it snows, it is global warming. If it rains, it is global warming. Whatever. All of this while he flies around the country in private jets, and lives in an estate with the carbon footprint the size of a small neighborhood. Go eat some more cheetos Al, and just shut up already.

Al Gore for science czar?

Bob Livermore, Sidney, OH — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:01:45 GMT

Are we (humans) causing global warming on the planets of Mars & Venus because those planets are having higher tempatures as well. When immigrants went to what is now called Greenland I don't believe they were naming in a sarcastic nature. We as modern humans have to look at this over thousands of years not just a few decades. Quit giving us so much credit in our ability to change things.

Al Gore for science czar?

Lorraine Taube Brockway Township , Michigan — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:19:20 GMT

I think you are all nuts. I would rather put my trust in God than any science. He is still in charge. When I was in school they were warning us about the coming ice age. That was over sixty years ago. No change in my life time. He is still in charge.

Al Gore for science czar?

John Charles Webb, Jr. — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:20:25 GMT

Global Warming issues aside.... I simply do not understand why some people seem to enjoy living in auotmobile polluted urban areas that are virtual gas chambers. Shouldn't breathing be an environmental consideration?

Cancer treatment centers and now advertising on TV, many men now require 'male enhancement' pills to engage in intimate activities, there are handicapped ramps outside of most buildings and a clear conection (not exclusive, but a contributing factor) between climate issues, health and pollution.

The 'inconvient truth' is that the American citizen has been reduced to a 'crash test dummy' by American business that (typically) operates without significant regard for maintaining the quality of our environment. The American people have had their democracy hijacked by big business.

Al Gore for Science Czar? Yes! And, more importantly, it is now time for a 'jihad' aimed at restoring our government and to direct its focus to improving the quality of life that has been sacrificed on the altar of Dow Jones.

Al Gore for science czar?

Steve Smyth — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:25:02 GMT

This is great...thanks Al.
I was concerned that Folks were falling for this crap.
Now, I can relax.
Wheww!
Aside to oldtimer...I'd forgotten about Gore the Elder's Nookular Wisdom, but there's a lot more...kids should know Algore is just more US Political Nepotism...groomed and waiting in the wings to carry forth the legacy...if Bubbya and President Daddy have taught us anything worthwhile, it's that the scion can't measure up...never seems to happen!
I bet not three of ten people involved in this discussion even know Algore's Father was a big time Pol...nor that his wife led the charge against free speech in the music industry...

Al Gore for science czar?

John — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:56:27 GMT

Super bad idea! The guy can't even conserve energy himself, let alone tell me and the rest of the country what to do. All you idiots out there who believe humans are the cause of Global Warming need to do ALOT more research. Global Warming is happening, but its never been said to be a result of our activity. From 1900 to today, CO2 levels have went from about 300 ppm to 360 ppm. With how vast our atmosphere is, how can anyone with a brain in their skull believe that 60 extra particles make that much difference? Its always been all about the Sun. It has been more active in the last 15 - 20 years than ever seen in modern times. There is alot of scientific evidence that is starting to relate the number of sunspots to changes of temps on earth. Also, I'm sure most of you have heard about the study released a few days ago that changes in the artic ice cap are being caused by ocean currents changing. Before you attribute them to Global warming, they have proved that these currents have a pattern of change that has existed for thousands of years. With today's inability of meteorologists to predict weather accurately beyond 18 hrs. Are you really gonna believe these yahoos about the next 10 or 50 years????

Al Gore for science czar?

Gene Robert, snyders, pa — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:59:22 GMT

Doesn't Al Gore know that it was Global warming that ended the ice age which was good for us. Does Al Gore know what caused the Global worming. Does Al Gore now that the CFI Bulbs for lighting that they are trying to push on us are full of Mercury Gases and that if one is broken there is a certain way to clean it up and maybe we might even have to call the EPA to clean up at an expense to us. And if our children break to many Bulbs, we might not be allowed into our homes until it is cleaned up per EPA rules. Al Gore know's nothing.

Al Gore for science czar?

Richard , Springtown, Texas — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:59:23 GMT

Al Gore would not know the truth if it bit him on the end of his nose. He did not invent the internet and he certainly did not discover "global warming".

Besides, Gore contributes more to global warming when he uses his private jet or turns on the lights in the biggest carbon imprint contributor in Tennessee

Al Gore for science czar?

Tony Silvas, Houston Texas — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:15:50 GMT

Gore for "Mascott!" or supporter etc, but not czar. Again Science and politics should have a separation, and the science czar or leader should be a PHD scientist (someone very very talented). Gore can keep on talking and so on -support is great.

Al Gore for science czar?

Tim Roden, Gilmer, TX — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:20:05 GMT

Look at his house(s) and tell me if he practices what he preaches. Get real. He is a poltician not a scientist. Give me a PhD in Physics, Chemistry, etc. for Science Czar not a former vice president who's only a Political Scientist. And what is the purpose of Science Czar? Too big of a topic. Forget the idea. We need to shrink government, not grow it.

Al Gore for science czar?

Tony Lautieri — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:52:23 GMT

Please read SCIENCE, not PERSONAL/POLITICAL Opinion.
The greatest contributors to the problem is shown at
the following URL.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20745214

Al Gore for science czar?

Thomas Lee Boles, Saint Paul, Minnesota — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:23:17 GMT

How and why am I supposed to be "aware" of something that is proven to be totally false? The icecaps are melting, the seas are rising, the South is drying up, and we have a record crop of hurricanes and tornadoes. When, before 2004, did Florida have four hurricanes in one season? Earth to Shrubbies: All this will not go away just because some revolving-door PR flack from Big Oil rewrote the scientific reports. All the anti-warming rhetoric proves is that denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Al Gore for science czar?

Ron Sessions, Globe Arizona — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:38:37 GMT

Al Gore didn't even recognize the busts of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson when visiting a famous landmark. Please, Mr. Gore who has a power bill of $32,000, step out of the way! Those who think he is caring and decent should ask his secret service personal when VP what they thought of him!

Al Gore for science czar?

Richard Poor, McDonald, PA — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:46:49 GMT

#1 There is too much pollution regardless of climate change. Becoming more efficient and burning less will help this.
#2 The USA is overly dependent upon foreign energy from hostiles. Becoming more efficient and burning less will help this.
#3 Affordable technology already exists to increase transportation efficiency by at least 50%. However, a 50% reduction in petroleum sales will be fought tooth and nail by the petro interests up to and including war.
#4 1/10 the money already spent on the war in Iraq if it were used for home and apartment and small business weatherization would eliminate the need for new power plants, reduce pollution and provide thousands of jobs for regular trades people.
#5 The most economical and environmental active solar technology is water heating which is grossly underutilized. By the same token, appropriate passive solar architecture on a mortgaged new home will result in immediate savings the very first house payment.
#6 Some segments of large industry have done a superb job with energy conservation, increasing comfort and profits. Two examples: Texas Instruments and Google.

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Richard, Hesperia CA — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:13:55 GMT

Al Core, the British court found "An Inconvenient Truth" to be politically biased, and it ruled teachers must warn students of that bias before showing the film. The judge in that case identified nine specific errors. The IPCC's peer review process is a pathetic joke, perhaps best demonstrated by the fact that its 'summaries for policy makers' are edited line by line by politicians and green activist's and released before the full reports and finished. Go to Heartland Institute for the truth these are real scientists. Another website to go to is WWW.stansberryresearch.com, this is a real good report on oil research showing that the U.S. has 72.1% of the world's oil. And we go produce it for 10 to 18 dollars a barrel, but Boxer made sure Congress would stop it (2005), so now we pay 100 dollars a barrel.
We have 10% (north America) sun lit dimming, but England has 16%, Europe 18%, middle east 20%, China 25%, India 25%, Russia 25% and south America 14%. And after 9/11 we had 7% sun lit dimming, the question is what percent of co2 is ok. Plants need co2 and one tree can produce oxygen for 4000 people per year. The Clinton/Core made law's stopping the America people to water and/or replant tree's in our forest.

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Rico — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:40:35 GMT

Dum dums no.

Gore, yes.

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Bob, Las Vegas, Nv — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:03:50 GMT

Al Gore for science czar??? You have got to be kidding. I saw his movie "An Inconvenient Truth. He doesn't mention the convenient distortions of the facts he has peppered throughout it. Like any good politician; he has an adgenda. I don't buy his "US is bad", "the human race is alone the cause for global warming" bs. When I see him logging 180k+ miles on a bicycle or 350k+ miles on motorcycles and those are the only modes of transportation he owns; then he can lecture me about saving the friggen planet.

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'Tom Branscomb, Portland, OR — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:29:44 GMT

I didn't like Al G. as a VP, a Presenditial candidate, and certainly not as some type of science advisor. Please get someone that understands science and is not out to further his personal political agenda.

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Craig Watertown Conn. — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:05:49 GMT

Hey Chris,

Al Gore lives in a house that uses more energy than 11 average houses and wants to lecture us on conserving energy? Can you spell hypocrite?

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Larry Dean, Colorado Springs, CO — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:52:21 GMT

Chris, I believe that the country you and al gore can start fresh in is available. It is one called Iraq and it may be easier for you to convince people that the earth is flat contrary to science.

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B jones Nashville TN> — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:01:17 GMT

To Chris, I live in Tennessee and Al Gore is a joke. His house is huge and cost more to heat and air than anyone in Nashville. We didn't vote for him for a reason-----he is stupid and a liar. Get real.His ego is so big he really has not idea nor care about the people---read average American.

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Dr. W, Orbit Primus — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:39:22 GMT

If Al Gore and all the rest of the sanctimonious liberal activists would just shut up and stop spewing all their hot air, THAT would probably solve gobal warming! Liberals always think they're going to "save the world," but they're the idiots the world needs to be saved from!

By the way, Chris Lindeman: I hope Gore does move away--far way--and start a new country. Go ahead and join him, too, and good riddance to the both of you! Feel free to take along all the other "world-savers."

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R S Bowman Cape May NJ — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:17:09 GMT

Al Gore would make a great Science Czar for LIBERAL MEDIA. However the balance I am mostly concerned about is when more liberal thinking people out number those who still can discern the truth. By the results of these messages we are still in good hands.

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J. C. Miller, New Castle, PA — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:33:30 GMT

What bothers me about the Al Gore science czar issue is that most of the American public lack the education to think critically about this issue. Why would we need a politician to explain this stuff to us if we new enough about it to make our own judgements? If you want to truly consider global warming contributors, consider air conditioning as a process--forget the refrigerant. All air conditioning results in the rejection of heat to the air, water,or earth. When you consider the electrical energy that is necessary to raise that heat to a temperature at which it can be rejected, the impact on our world is enormous. The public and its policy makers need to take the responsibility to educate themselves in all aspects of this issue--not just the ones that Al has chosen. Science and its application should not be a matter of "belief".

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David DeCarlo, Bloomfield, NJ — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:28:22 GMT

Al Gore has become a charlatan and a snake oil salesman. I would be embarrased for him if he wasn't so dangerous. The global warming hoax is all about politics and power. As for his Nobel prize, the Nobel has been a joke for years, ever since the peace prize was given to the terrorist Yassar Arafat and the worlds worst president and ex president Jimmy Malaise Carter.

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Michael B. Woodstock, Georgia — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:06:14 GMT

Anyone who thinks humanity is the sole cause of global warming needs to do some research instead of following the pack with alfa male Gore in the lead. Who does'nt want to live on a cleaner planet! but lets not confuse the issue of a cleaner planet with global warming and climate change. Lets think for a minute..... what has the biggest impact on the earth.....? might it be... could it be.... the "SUN"? That bright thing in the sky that has been the influence of mother earths climate since...well... when earth formed 6 billion years ago!The second biggest impact on the earths climate is volcanos. When Mt. St. Helens erupted it spewed more toxins in the air then all of the combined efforts of man from the begining of the industrial revolution until Mt. St. Helens eruption in 1980. How come everyone talks about the retreating glaciers ( which by the way have been going on since we came out of the little ice age around 1800 )example: South Sawyer Glacier, Alaska. When George Vancouver first visited this site in 1794,todays open bay was frozen up, choked with glaciers; by 1879 naturalist John Muir found that the ice had moved 48 miles up the bay.What do you think the cause of this was back then? Maybe it was all the wood fires people used back then, to cook and keep warm with.... if they only knew back then that they were the ones that got this global warming off and running! Now that the polar icecap is shrinking can anyone tell me why antarctica is adding more thickness??? Maybe Al can explain??? Of course he will if the $$$$$ are right.

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Kenneth W. Higby Sr. Ogden Utah — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:15:42 GMT

After reading every comment on this subject this is what I have to say. Humans are here for the experience of living. They were put here to be fruitful and multiply. We are all apart of the grand plan of things. Sure we are going to make mistakes and do things that are against nature. This is all part of the plan. With this said it is not wrong to care about what is going on in this world and voice the thoughts and findings or even the facts what ever they may be. The facts are however what win out in the end. And the facts are that we as humans are subject to everthing that happens in this world. Do not lose sight of the facts that all the things we do good or bad in this world are here for us to learn from. Just because one man says one thing and another says something else does not mean that they are different as far as humans are concerned. We are all of the same species, and should act accordingly. Wars against each other have been here as long as man has been on earth and they are all caused by disagreement of one kind or another. It is when we learn to talk to and work together and not disagreee to the point of killing each other that we will find the answers to many of the problems we face today. And a science anybody will not bring this to light. Al Gore is a man the same as all men just doing what he thinks is right in a world of things going wrong. But look at the things that are going right and you will see the balance of all things. Good, bad it is all part of the learning experience. It is what we do to change for the betterment of all humans that is the important question to ask oursleves, And mot how much power or money will be made as a result of our actions.

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Jim, Balad, Iraq — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:36:25 GMT

The truth is the world is warming up and has been for the last 10,000 years, since the last ice-age. With that said we as humans are excellerating the change with our pollution of the air. But no matter if we did this or not the earth is going to get warmer and the ocean currents will change, just like it has since the beginning of time. I believe we need to take pride in trying to clean up the environment so we all don't become cancerous creatures wandering the earth dying.

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Rod, Houston — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:53:07 GMT

All I see here is more evidence that the US is in bad, bad shape when it comes to science. The global warming deniers, the anti-vaccine idiots, the creationist, the 'moon landing was a hoax' groups are crowding out real science and the US will suffer for it.

It is interesting seeing people on one hand denying global warming then at the same time making fun of creationist... Wow!

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Mark, Jackson, MS — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:29:00 GMT

Al Gore, Science Czar. Hmmm.

No.

I'm better qualified for the job than he is and I didn't invent the Internet. Heck, I can even tell the the difference between temperature change leading CO2 change by hundreds of years and what Algore claims.

ME FOR SCIENCE CZAR!!!

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Frank Glover, Rochester, NY — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:37:58 GMT

"When Al Gore sells his 10,000 sq. ft. home, SUVs and stops jetting around the world, then I might listen. Until then, he's just another hypocrite fooling a lot of feely good lost souls."

Hmm. As opposed to Ronald Reagan who had *existing* solar water heaters (installed by the Carter Administration) on the White House roof removed, shortly after taking office.

Exactly what kind of message does that send?

I would think conservatives would support such things for their 'energy independence' value, if nothing else. How silly of me.

Still, while Al Gore may be correct (albeit overly hyped) on Global Warming, I can't accept that he's qualified to be a general administration 'science czar,' either. There's more to science than that one issue and guranteed to be many more, in the coming decades.

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SD, Worcester, MA — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:05:51 GMT

Global warming . . . Al Gore ... maybe you should call this COMIC LOG!

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KS Davenport IA — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:08:16 GMT

This is only idle curiosity, but how many of you are members of the Flat Earth society?

How many of you have scientific degrees?

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Chris, Birmingham, England — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:16:03 GMT

Frightening. With two exceptions, the above posts are really, really, really frightening. God preserve humanity from the US, if this is typical. What a bunch of dumb, dumb, dumb, hysterics.
Hey, I know there are plenty of good, decent, intelligent people in the US. I just get sick to the gut reading these posts. Gore and Carter seem to two of the best public figures the US has produced in 50 years. How did you treat them ?

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Earl Harbeson, Los Angeles CA — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:16:30 GMT

I think we should make Gore the Global Warming czar, but Wiley Coyote would make a better science czar. At least his dumb ideas were funny.

While we are at it I nominate Popeye the safe spinach czar, Pepe LePew fresh air czar, Yosemite Sam as the 2od amendment czar, Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd as safe hunting czar (this position should contain both the hunter and hunted, I will let you decide which was which), Wimpy as safe Hamburger czar, Mr. McGoo as eye health czar, and last but not least Olive Oyl as anorexic czar

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a p garcia — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:38:08 GMT

I hope not- his degrees in Jurisprudence and Theology aren't exactly what makes a Scientist!

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Dale Fisher Bloomington,Indiana — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:56:24 GMT

I forgot where I was reading about the last Ice Age, and the article said the same thing as today. Greenhouse gases caused the earth to warm and then the Ice Age set in. When did the Neanderthal man invent the means to put the greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Ice cores from the Artic show the rise in greenhouse gases, so what is the big deal. Seems to me we are just in a cycle of Mother Earth, and we had better learn to live with it.

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Anonymous — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:49:57 GMT

Alan,
It seems that many of your posters (this article) are "Al Gore a phobic".
Definition: Fear of outdoors, especially the environmnent and fresh air.
This condition("Al Gore a phobia") is an evolutionary 'hangover' indicating a residual Reptilian mindset left over from the last ice age.
Acute cases have a violent aversion to anything that suggests an 'intelligent design'.
The "Al Gore a phobics" treat the Earth the way that they treat their women... with a violent distain.
Their days are numbered as they approach self extinction because of continually treading on their tongues and severing their brain stems.

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William Walker Brashier, Santa Maria, California — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:34:57 GMT

Al Gore for President 2008.

He was voted in once!

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Matthew Kennel, San Diego CA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:00:29 GMT

There is an astonishing amount of unscientific baloney which otherwise intelligent people have been encouraged to believe. Let's be blunt, there are strong forces who have particular interests in thwarting actual scientific truth about global warming. And yes, the real scientists, are correct: it is happening and significant. I'm a physicist myself, not in climate specifically, but am quite familiar with a number who are, and understand enough about the primary science to get a sense of what the practicing scientists think.

There are quite a number of specious pseudoscientific "gotchas", of which I've seen plenty here, which have take some actual fact and then utterly ignore the true consequences, which have been investigated extraordinarily thoroughly by professionals over 50 years.

Yes, water is a greenhouse gas. No, it is not significant in human climate change because the amount of water in the atmosphere depends on the temperature. Climate scientists haven't forgotten about water, that's just plain idiotic.

The influence of the Sun has been measured over decades with high quality scientific instruments, and there is no significant change remotely quantitatively commensurate with the observations, and quite a number of observed data contradicting it. The pattern of heating and cooling in the troposphere and stratosphere is consistent with greenhouse forcing, not significant solar changes.

The existence of climate change by some mechanism on other planets---or in Earth's prehistory---does not mean in any way that current climate change on Earth isn't primarily due to human-emitted gases. What matters is specific measurement facts and laws of physics. Other planets and Earth's history helps refine our understanding.

The mathematics and physics of predicting climate is distinct from that of predicting weather. Weather prediction is like predicting the individual hands of poker and wheels of slot machines. Climate prediction is like predicting, from the rules of the games, whether or not the house has an advantage. Inability to predict weather has no bearing on predicting climate since they are predicting fundamentally distinct physical variables. The things which go as inputs into weather models (i.e. taken as givens, sea surface temperature distributions, heat inputs, etc) are the object of study in climate.

The existence of temperature rises preceding CO2 in ice core records is well understood and in no way whatsoever invalidates in the past there were changes in temperature from slow solar orbit changes, but these were quite small and mild. Forward feedback from changes in the biosphere emitted more CO2 which rapidly warmed the climate. The actual implication is this: there are hidden feed-forwards in the actual ecosystem which are about to be triggered by our current warming and it could be even worse than we think.

The change of CO2 from the roughly 200 parts per million to 300 parts per million was extremely significant in climate change, it corresponded to the difference between the Ice Age and today. On the Kelvin scale (true physics) the change was maybe 5 degrees (C or K), about the same as what global warming might be after 100 years. That is an enormous climate change. There were ice sheets two miles thick in New York then.

Among actual professional scientists involved in the issue disputing the dominant influence of greenhouse gases, of which human influence contributes almost all the major change is like disputing among chemists that molecules are made of atoms.

And then there is the final truths: without changes greenhouse gases there is simply no way to explain the already strong existing data. When you do count greenhouse changes, the data fit the predictions perfectly. This has been an issue long enough that we have true predictions from back in the late 80's (Jim Hansen et al). They have been proven right and the skeptics wrong. Climate predictors have made some 'errors' or there have been some surprises: in almost all cases, the true observations were even worse than the predictions.

There are plenty of actually informative websites, the best of which is www.realclimate.org

This site has information to debunking the various semi-science "gotchas":

http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-talk-to-global-warming-sceptic.html

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Thomas Ashby, Calgary — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:30:14 GMT

Frank Glover..Yep..the Gore guy hasn't even told us if he has even turned down the lights. Politics and science??.. seems a lot like religion and science to me. Neither side listens.

Gore, as admirable as he is as being a communications genius, he better leave science to scientists.

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Michael, Richmond, VA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:49:20 GMT

Everyone posting on this article continuously amazes me... Are there some scientists that do not believe in the theory of global warming? Yes. Of course there are. But, the fact that it is a 'theory' does not have the conventional meaning. In science a 'theory' is something that is commonly accepted and has been supported by many experiments. To put it simply, the vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real. They even agree that we need to reduce our CO2 emissions below 1990 levels by 2050 to avoid major changes in the earth's climate. Already, the polar ice caps are getting smaller, winter is coming later and islands in the pacific are already noticing higher sea levels.

But, for those of you who still chose to ignore the science I ask you one simple question. Is it bad to reduce out CO2 emissions and, in doing so, become more energy independent and end up with a healthier environment? In the end there are no negative aspects to reducing our CO2 emissions. As a young person, I personally would much rather be safe than sorry. If you have kids and if/when the climate begins to radically change, do you want to have to look them in the eye and say, "Sorry"? I hope not.

P.S. To whoever said that an increase of 60 ppm of CO2 doesn't matter... To put it in percentages, an increase of CO2 levels in the atmosphere from 300 ppm to 360 ppm is a 20% increase. Can you honestly say that a TWENTY PERCENT increase is insignificant? Just think about it.

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Keith Kibbe — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:58:07 GMT

Science is not divided on this issue. The politics are divided. Science can be divided on a new hypothesis about a subject regarding which man knows little and man is attempting to gather facts and construct a model to match data. This is true whether looking backwards at earth's evolution or looking forward in time. In the case of the hypothesis of anthropogenic global warming there is much data concerning earth's long history of wide temperature swings, effects of solar activity and so forth with which authentic scientists measure whether a model fits the data or not. In this case there is ample data to either reject the hypothesis or, if one has a religious-like belief in it, to at least take a deep breath and question of you have been led to conclude too much too soon. There is an old saying that to understand politics follow the money or follow the power strings.

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Joan of Argghh! State of Panic — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:39:29 GMT

Because having an Education czar has been such a success...

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greiner3, Columbus OH — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:30:38 GMT

Why do republicans hate America? Rather than taking faux news at face value, try education. I graduate next year with a BS in Ecology. Oh the wonders they will see if only they can be educated. Thank you President Gore!

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Hank, Seattle, Wash — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:50:44 GMT

Al Gore as science czar? The bottom-of-the-class scholar to attain preference and position because he parrots the party line and looks like a figurehead?

Bah. In the Middle Ages they used to emplace members of important families as Pope - the head of the Catholic Church - not because of their dedication to things spiritual, but because of their family political power. Show me how Gore as science czar is any different. He should go back and finish his studies at divinity school, and then start a new religion if he wishes.

Back in school, studying science in any depth meant using a whole different set of tools, and a vastly greater number of hours of hard work, than studying the 'humanities'. One can blather one's way through humanities courses, including politics, using a whole range of concepts; in science you're right or wrong, and the experimental side of it is merciless at showing up poseurs.

Get thee to a monastery, Al Gore.

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Daniel, Newton, KS — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:00:42 GMT

If Bush mixes politics with science on Stem Cell research, the world cries foul. How can he do that? What an idiot!

If Gore mixes politics with science, it's ENLIGHTENED.

Yeah.

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Vincent Walker — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:18:08 GMT

Al Gore is an intellectual fraud. I graduated from Vanderbilt when he dropped out. His academic record in the sciences involved three "bath tub" courses in which he had a cumulative C- average. Hardly the level of motivation and competence one would want in making major policy decisions. I'm thankful that more and more REAL climatologists are speaking out against his fraudulent message. For you people who are Gore Lap Dogs, I have several questions. 1.) How much money has Gore made perpetuating this fraud? How do you justify his unbelievable personal energy waste? Why does he have a multi-million dollar beach house at Figure 8 Island- a barrier island that has been hit hard by past hurricanes? Why hasn't he done a better job teaching conservation to his kids (Son arrested for 100mph with drugs)? Why is he the sole stock owner in a mining company that has numerous citations for pollution? I won't tolerate this worthless phony and neither should anyone else.

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TheFallibleFiend, LORTON, VA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:45:59 GMT

While the spiteful rhetoric against Gore is uninformed, I agree with one point against him - any "science czar" should be an actual scientist. However, a few things to keep in mind:

1. The position isn't *just* a scientific one - it's a political one in the sense that the person has to be savvy in politics and know how the system works, otherwise he'd be defenseless against the politicos in the other departments.

2. The president already has a science adviser AND OSTP (office of science and tech policy). Good advice can be hard to find - even harder when it's unheeded. We have a president and cabinet that is NOTORIOUS for ignoring advice from the real experts and looking through the crowd to pick out the few guys who agree with them.

3. I'm not opposed to having a cabinet level post for a science adviser and requiring the guy to have a background in actual science; however, it would irritate me that most people would be willing to make exceptions for practicing engineers, doctors, dentists, even though they're not scientists. It's not a bad idea to have someone on the cabinet who is particularly well-endowed with scientific knowledge.

BTW --- the "Gore said he invented the Internet" lie is as dishonest as the "Quayle misspelled 'potatoes'" story.

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Lee Delaney, Las Vegas NV — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:05:16 GMT

I think Al Gore would be an excellent Science Advisor. He has an excellent resume, is a Nobel Prize winner for his advocacy of a Green Earth, is known and liked around the planet, has a record of success in everything he has tried, is intelligent and has proven he can learn. And for my own particular enjoyment and not relevant to his qualifications for the job, after reading the other comments here it is evident that his very name drives the Neanderthals of this nation nuts. In their frenzy they resort to the spewing invective of the most juvenile and adolescent ilk and parroting the insults of their leaders in the Neanderthal Party. There is little better than reading the poorly constructed sentences of some half-wit about how Gore "invented the Internet" or "Gore just does it to make money," or "Gore can't even conserve energy himself," and other inane and completely irrelevant comments from people who believe that an insult is the same and as good as an argument.

Gore as a Science Advisor would be a fine choice because he is not a scientist, he is a politician, and can handle the babblings of the scientific community, be smart enough to interpert them and translate them into achievable goals. But only if there is a Democrat in the White House. If we get another 10th Century Republican with a science understanding that stops when he learns that there are scientific discoveries which can do things other than kill, then I would support Torquemada for the job. Following the idea that scientists should be burned at the stake if they don't conform to the political or religious agenda Mr. Torquemada certainly has the credentials to be Science Advisor to a Republican Administration.

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Wayne, Alamogordo, NM — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:25:12 GMT

Let's see: "Al Gore for Science Czar!" That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Allen, I realize you like confrontational issues, but this one is a no-go, no-brainer from the start. The problem is that when Hillary becomes President, she'll have to cater to all the special interest groups she owes allegiance to, and they'll probably force her to include Al "I'm becoming rich as a liar" Gore somewhere in a top-level position. It would truly be ironic if she did name him as her Science Czar, especially since their combined understanding of real science could probably fit in a thimble. Let's leave politicians to do all the lying, and scientists, without political ties, to help make solid decisions based on fact. My vote is "No" on Al Gore.

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Ed I, Ft Laud, FL — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:06:36 GMT

Looks like all the anti-science conservative hate-mongers are here. The conservative hatred for science is well known and documented. They must stop science because it has proved the Earth is far older than the 6,000 years they claim it to be and global warming must be a lie because its not written it the Bible.
I wish the cons would stop spreading so much hate in the world and try to do some thing to help it.

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Charlie, Washington, DC — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:10:26 GMT

I have a degree in meteorology and can tell you that we can't even accurately measure temperature around the globe. We measure it best at weather stations, mostly at airports, that experience a lot of growth in population and industry around them. Temperature is only one of the atmospheric variables that is used as input in our numerical weather prediction models. We parameterize radiative (heat) transfer--in other words, we don't really use exact equations. This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the techniques that are necessary in order to run the weather models fast enough to provide forecasts before they occur as weather models require losts of resources. So we can't measure variables accurately and we do not model them accurately. Little errors in the initial conditions of a model grow with each forecast timestep which is why we have to reinitialize models with new data every 1, 3, 6, 12, or 24 hours and make a new model run. Few people will argue that the models are exact but they provide good short term guidance. Depending upon the model, 3-7 fays is about the best they can do reliably. The longer term models for seasonal weather prediction aren't better. Usually, if the initial conditions are moist, they will tell you it will be wetter than normal. Models can't handle boundaries well or the poles due to singularities (dividing by zero) so equations are approximated. Historically, we find dinosaur bones at locations far north and we know that at one time glaciers were found much further south. No one knows what the real average temperature is for any spot on the globe let alone the history of that temperature over time. No one knows what normal is or even if it is supposed to be constant. Scientists may take a guess at the short term trend in temperature and provide an educated guess about the cause but they can't tell you what exact percentage may be due to an increase in CO2. Articles I have read said the temperature should be higher for the increase in CO2 but then modifications to the theory are introduced to explain the deviations from the predicted. In the right conditions, the scientific laws has their use but even the ideal gas law is useless when you consider that it does not allow for the non-gaseous states of matter. Don't be fooled into taking the advice of someone who wants to tell you how to live according to his rules when his own family has problems that are probably worse than your family's problems. Gore is no scientist. If you search the Internet, Gore struggled at science in college and we don't need someone with a poor background in science leading the nation in this area. It should be done by someone with credibility in the field and the right credentials.

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M, Colorado — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:35:02 GMT

Al Gore has done a great job getting people to look at the effects of industrialization on the planet. However, to make it palatable for most people, he has really oversimplified cause and effect and most people don't even know that the scientists, who have spent years on their education and studies, are divided. There is no simple answer. Hysteria is not the answer. Following the lead of Hollywood, where everything is dumbed down, is absolutely not the answer. Al Gore is not a scientist, and further, he has his own agenda to push. You can like or dislike it, but he is biased and has formed his own conclusions which will get in the way of alternative viewpoints. Science is all about questioning and hypotheses, not a dogmatic shuffle in one direction only. Get real scientists to work on the science, not politicians.

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Rochelle, Fort Lauderdale, FL — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:58:43 GMT

That is just a scary thought. I will never understand why Gore was even granted a Nobel prize. His "movie" is not shown in some countries without a disclaimer (since half of his claims do not logically make sense). What an embarrassment! I hate when I am in other countries and have to clarify how I am not affiliated with so many of the stupid stories coming from home). Do you know that his "green" tour puts out more CO2 than some small countries (and he flies on his extremely fuel inefficiant older model Gulf Stream jet)? Get it together...Carbon credits to not make up for that.

Side Bar - I was staying at my Aunts in London house several years ago and she made a joke asking if the OJ trial was really shaping my life and the life of other Americans! Im sure on my next trip she'll ask me if Americans really think they are so great and powerful that they can make a change the structure of the earth in just a few hundred industrialized years, when it has taken the gases of the univerise millions to do the same!

Al Gore for science czar?

Rochelle, Fort Lauderdale, FL — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:11:21 GMT

As for the person who who left the comment to look at the 19,000 names of scientists on the Global Warming Petition Project; You need to finish your research. Many of those "names" have come forward with lawsuit threats since they never agreed to support the petition.

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Mike — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:14:24 GMT

Your kidding of course. After all the scientific errors in his Global Worming Theory any junior high school science teacher would be eminently more qualified than Mr Gore. Get Real.

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MIKE — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:16:18 GMT

I would accept Al Gore as Science Czar, but only if Newt Gingrich was his Science Co-Czar. Put both of them in front of the cameras at the same time, and we can hear from both of them what their suggestions would be to combat problems we face. I will bet you that Newt would wipe the floor with TipperGore, and AlGore would then descend into oblivion. AlGore believes government is the answer! Yeah right! The only thing government does right is get in the way of peoples liberty!

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J. St. Clair, Belmont, CA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:31:30 GMT

Has anyone ever thought that there may be too many trees on this planet? and that there may not be enough "preventative-maintenance" performed on these forests? AND has anyone bothered to consult with the Indian tribes? They just might know something we don't (and I'm SURE that they do!)- and there are scientists that are studying the Indian methods used by reviewing the original maps, but this is another discussion.

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Danny — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:38:54 GMT

How dare people bring partisan politics into scientific discussions?
Science we have to uphold above petty squabbles in the world of red vs. blue.
I'm a 23 yr. old engineering student and have known about the issue of global warming since I was in grade/elementary school through science textbooks, museums, and science teachers. I know that global warming is not a new phenomenon, it's happened many times before in the past and in fact may have led to mass extinctions after CO2 levels rose naturally due to increased volcanic activity. All I can say for us is that the worst may not come during our lifetime, but we certainly have had an impact since the Industrial Age began in England--with over 6.5 billion people(each a small CO2 factory in itself) and countless CO2 emitting industries( and way of life, coal, oil, shipping, rail, automotive, air travel) we are affecting the amount of CO2(measured in tons) gases that goes into the atmosphere. Whoever says that that is ridiculous, is totally ignorant of such facts or they bury their heads in the sand. The science is a little sketchy as to how much we contribute, and how it will affect us, which I've argued in a paper, may not entirely affect our generation, but it will eventually generations further down the line, and why would we want to speed up the process. It will make part of the earth unlivable and then watch animal/plant species die off, and humans pushed out of their current landscape--mass migrations to higher latitudes or places that have fresh water reserves. It is irresponsible to argue global warming away completely and worse yet frame it as a political issue when it's an issue still being investigated to its full extent.

Al Gore for science czar?

Danny, Walnut, California — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:57:41 GMT

It's sad to watch so many people here bash Gore, and worse yet they make little sense, they completely ignore his arguments even when the data he used was brought from scientific investigation--where is the scientific research that denies global warming is taking place? most of you here have a political partisan bent and only look at Gore as a democrat and not as someone who was brought attention to an issue only few people knew of even as late as 2000. Why is it that the majority of the bashers come from Texas, the Midwest Rustbelt, or the South? One they are inclined republican, two they have little formal scientific training, and three a lot of the industries focused there are responsible for major pollutants(why can't anyone see that is why American automotive industry is lagging in sales? Asian companies long ago realized higher mileage(through California anti-pollution and performance mandates to sell in that state) brought in more customers, while Detroit stubbornly refused to change(design as well, that was left to engineers) since they were too inconvenienced to invest in research and development and put on their thinking caps (engineers should have only been available for vital auto body and motor design and testing, not artistic design). I mean you people are sick, you are so blinded by your partisanship that you refuse to acknowledge any shred of evidence even if scientific evidence is present(core drill samples from Antarctica). Some of you even contradict your own arguments and make no sense whatsoever.

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Dr. Mona J.Zahara, Cranbrook BC. Canada. — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:00:52 GMT

There are scientists in both Canada/USA-that are studying PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHY - Text books have been written -On the Physical Environment -outlining the basic componemts, that influence Earth's Climate Change-I do not believe AL Gore is qualified or has the POWER to control these Factors such: Volcanic eruptions,variations in solar output,variations in Earth's orbital characteristics ,atmospheric carbon dioxide variations.So until;Gore can control the rotation and earth tilt, he should look for another day job.

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Jason — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:10:48 GMT

So, we have policies based on religion why not have them based on science. There is no way that we separate church and state, but no one is up in arms about that - people are up in arms about someone who would want to reduce the dependency on oil and make our country self sufficient and hopefully eco friendly

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Danny, CA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:43 GMT

Why are so many people sarcastically arguing that Al gore did not "invent the internet". I think everyone knows that. The military did when they needed a way to communicate amongst themselves. I don't think anyone made the argument that Gore invented the Internet, so whoever out there is trying to peg him as if he were claiming that achievement you should stop being so combative.

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Plutos Dad — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:21:02 GMT

The problem is Gore does not believe in "options" he believes in enforcing opinions. Ask any scientist working at universities in the 90s: if you didn't toe the line and say global warming was caused by humans, then you didn't get federal funding. Without funding, no research gets done, and you don't keep your job. Anyone who thinks only money from companies corrupts scientific research has no idea how grants to universities work.

Scientific progress depends on scientists being free to investigate and argue with each other - not to have their investigation straitjacketed to political opinion. That's exactly what happened to the Soviet Union and why in many areas their progress fell far behind us.

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Gordon, Spruce Grove, Alberta — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:22:29 GMT

Nevertheless:

Some observations

The earth is warming and this means generally
Hotter and drier towards the equator
Hotter and drier towards the center of continents
Hotter and humid on the east coast of continents
Humid on the west coast of continents
More heat leads to more violent atmospheric disturbances.

Most people are oblivious to the real cause of our warming planet and those who know are not telling the truth or perhaps cannot face it. The real problem is over population. More people demanding more goods from more factories which demand more power. More power generates more green house gas.

Earth’s human population doubles exponentially. The human population of the planet has reached a point where it is approximately half what it can support. The human population will double soon. When that happens, mother nature will find a brutal solution to the cause of the planet’s trouble or the planet will die.

Coming attractions.

More population
Less arable land
Research for a solution
Frustration
Disease
Protests
Starving
Rioting (Loss of ordered society)
War

Now you know. Do something.

Al Gore for science czar?

Bri LA CA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:34:59 GMT

The Petition Project is where 19,000 scientists have endorsed a statement questioning the scientific basis of climate alarmism.

Al Gore said that it was wrong for the media to pay any attention to opinions outside "the consensus" while appearing on NBC’s Today show.

I nominate Gore for "czar of lies".

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GRB midland mi — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:59:26 GMT

This global warming thing is just a scam to create fees and taxes by the UN and world governments. It is a cycle and it will cycle around.
No matter what we do here in the USA, as long as China can burn heavy fuels and leaded gas, no one will ever put a dent into it.

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Jager Ludmilin, Vancouver, BC — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:09:42 GMT

Science czar? I'm down with that!

While you're at it, please make Paris Hilton the Empress of Wisdom, Osama Bin Laden the Kindness King, and George Bush The Linguist-in-Chief.

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Stan — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:21:23 GMT

Science Czar, no, no Gore would be "Propaganda Minister"

Al Gore for science czar?

BG, Scottsdale, AZ — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:22:35 GMT

To CM in Boston:

Wow, dude, like I'm a scientist and I doubt global warming. Totally, dude. I know that my college and post-grad degrees in geology and years of work in the environmental field probably don't stack up to your high school science class but I just thought that I'd, like, you know, put that in the pipe and see if it smokes. Dude.

What's really scaring me is that so many non-scientifically based people just swallow Al Gore's pseudo-science babble hook, line & sinker. And now the always-omniscient UN is telling us that the world is going to become unrecognizable, a complete wasteland, if we don't "act" soon. I'd like to know just what acts are going to save the supposedly doomed planet? Crash the economies of the world's leading countries? Pour all our money into carbon taxes, Al Gore's speaking fees, and other ludicrous indulgences? Change our lightbulbs from incandescent to compact fluorescent (LOL, that’s a good one)? I'm sure China will gladly stop all their development and their race to be the world’s leading economy at the request of the UN, let’s just all hold hands and ask them nicely.

The truth is that carbon emissions will decrease as we evolve beyond our oil-based energy economy. Lots of people are working furiously on "alternative energy" for all the right reasons: it'll be good for the environment and it will make them tons of money (but not necessarily in that order). It will happen, but won’t happen overnight. We'll all be driving happy little green cars and living in earthy-friendly magic homes as soon as it becomes economically advantageous to do so. Not just economically feasible, but economically ADVANTAGEOUS. Until it makes fiscal sense to do so, it just isn't going to happen on a massive scale. Then once we’re all living purely green lives the earth will suddenly be……the exact same way it is now and the exact same way it’s always been and the exact same way it will always be. But mankind will feel better about ourselves, which is all this is really about anyway.

Al Gore for science czar?

Beth, DeKalb, IL — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:12:50 GMT

Politicians should listen to scientists. This is much of the problem with science today-when politicians get involved, they tend to push their own agenda. That's what politicians do, especially with an issue as controversial as climate change. I think a "science czar" should be a SCIENTIST. If they were a politician, wouldn't they be called a "political czar"? Al Gore earned a BA in government. I would like to know how this and an interest in climate change makes him a climate change authority. Just because I'm interested in history doesn't make me a historian-it makes me a person who is interested in history. Al Gore just has the means to reach more people with his interests than the average Joe.

In addition--science is a much larger discipline than climate change. What does Gore know about biology? Chemistry? Physics? Psychology?

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trevor — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:18:49 GMT

John Sposato - the petition you're talking about, the Oregon Petition, was a SCAM... 19000 "scientists" deny global warming? These people included Michael J. Fox and John Grisham! A lot of the names were made up. Only a small fraction of the signatories claimed to have phD's. And, most of the phD's were *not* involved with climate research. According to Scientific American, "Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers" -- 200, not 19000!

After being identified, many of these people (the phD's) said they don't even recall ever signing the petition! And of those who did, many say they would not sign it again... It's AMAZING how so many people believe the PROPAGANDA is SCIENCE - even after it's debunked over and over again!

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Peter, Issaquah WA — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:31:50 GMT

Gore's an alarmist. Nuff said.

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Linda, Salt Lake City, Utah — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:32:54 GMT

Sigh.......if only Al Gore had become the President when he should have been. One can only imagine the different (and better) world we would see now.

As to the idiot Conservatives who have commented on this page -- goes to show you that the gene pool is pretty much tuckered out in the good ole USA. Thanks for the WORST President ever -- the village idiot you put in power from Texas has done more harm to this country and the world and our children will be paying for it, if they survive.

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Mary, Mobile, Alabama — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:37:39 GMT

Let's see, do I listen to the vast majority of the scientific community on their scientific findings concerning global warming or do I listen to a bunch of right wing nut-jobs who have no intelligence and have only a handful of crackpot scientists (I use the word looseley here) who disagree that global warming is a real threat that we created? Hmmmm.......hard one there, but the right-wing nut jobs have been wrong about just about everything they've said so..............you all keep your heads in the sand while the world burns.

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Roger Godby, Tokyo, Japan — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:55:46 GMT

Mixing politics and science? The book "Lysenko and the Tragedy of Soviet Science" should nip that in the bud (http://www.amazon.com/Lysenko-Tragedy-Soviet-Science-Valery/dp/0813520878/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195520016&sr=1-2); I don't want to see the sequel, "Gore and the Tragedy of Global Science."

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anthony, eugene, oregon — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:12:50 GMT

i think al gore understands sometimes that he's studyed. i'm sure each person do'se. looking at the bible what al said was said around 2000 years ago and some of it has been happening. so watch for the sign on the wrist or forhead.

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vince smith, Chandler, Arizona — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:30:15 GMT

Al Gore = Hypocrite.

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Check scopes for the village sized ecological draw from his home.

When he got the Nobel prize I wanted to puke. There are so many real people out there working their rear ends off to understand the truth without a political/monetary bone in their body. How could they insult them so badly?

Jimmy Carter would be a much better choice for Czar than he. At least he would look at the subject with a non-politically correct point of view. He would not be in it for money or power. Additionally, he has a scientific bone in his body.

Mankind has been breeding itself out of a seat at the dinner table there is no doubt and needs to slow down drastically. But I am suspicious that we are just along for the ride. Are we paddeling the canoe the wrong way for the inevitable ice age that is due? I think so. Do I want Al Gore to be the steward of this planet? No way.

Bet Gore has never heard this word.

GAIA = the hypothesis that the living and nonliving components of earth function as a single system in such a way that the living component regulates and maintains conditions (as the temperature of the ocean or composition of the atmosphere) so as to be suitable for life; also : this system regarded as a single organism.

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vince smith, Chandler, Arizona — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:34:05 GMT

Al Gore for science czar?

GEORGE MILLER , BREMERTON, WASHINGTON — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:48:05 GMT

GORE IS A CONSUMATE POLITICIAN - NOT A SCIENTIST. HIS 'ECHO CHAMBER' IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA WHO IN AGGREGATE WILL PUMP UP ANYTHING OR ANYONE WHO SAYS OR DOES ANYTHING TO DESTROY THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION OR ANY HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS WHICH ESTABLISH HEROES IN OUR PAST CULTURE. THE GLOBAL WARMING THE EARTH IS EXPERIENCING IS A CYCLIC PHENOMONON WITH PERIODICITY MEASURED IN THOUSANDS OF YEARS. AT PRESENT TRUE SCIENCE RATES THE EARTH MAY WARM ABOUT 2 TENTHS TO 5 TENTHS OF A DEGREE F IN THE NEXT 50 TO 100 YEARS, AND THE SEA LEVEL CHANGE WILL BE A FRACTION OF AN INCH - BUT THE GORE STAMPEDE - BACKED BY A SOUL BROTHER IN THE UN - HAS NEW YORK DROWNING IN THE NEXT 13 YEARS. GET REAL ALPHONSE - SPEAK THE TRUTH FOR A CHANGE - IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT TRUTH IS.

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kevin, louisiana — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:27:34 GMT

Gee, just because a person's temperature is high by a few degrees, people think it's caused by some kind of virus. People usually don't hear about all of the calories being burned that accounts for most of it. Maybe the reason he's running a fever of 105 could be that he's exercising. Maybe he's burning off a pizza... does any of this sound familiar?

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Kevin, Louisiana — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:38:42 GMT

Sure, that strange rash all over his body must be caused by those extra laps he did around the pool this morning. Sure, those dark-red lesions on his face must be the result of burning calories. Right?

This is all hyperbole, of course, but I'm doing it to make a point. Which is--the earth may survive global warming--but will WE? Or will some heat-loving disease proliferate and spread, like Ebola in Africa?

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Thomas Ashby, Calgary — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:39:30 GMT

We're all gonna die...

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John D, Tangent, OR — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:01:30 GMT

How about George Taylor. He was the Oregon State Climatologist for many years, until he was fired by Gov Kulongoski for not toeing the Global Warming line.

Probably not though. He has the credentials and the experience, but he's not a believer and the Democrats would torpedo his nomination for being insufficiently devout.

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J.B. Sanders — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:11:28 GMT

Al Gore for science Czar hmmmmm let's see . . he had WORSE grades in college than George Bush!!!! No formal scientific training. . . damn makes sense to me. But then reporters are about a stupid as humans come so what can you expect from a reporter. . . nominate another stupid person as science CZAR!!

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Mike Shaver — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:24:58 GMT

You've got to be Kidding - - -

If so it's a bad joke.

MSNBC does a really Lousy Job of Science News

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Des Emery. St. Thomas, ON, Canada — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:49:17 GMT

Remember the Butterfly Effect? No matter how insignificant the action you take now, like the fluttering wings of the butterfly in Japan, the results later on, like the storms in New York City, can be devastating.

Yes, the world has been warming slowly since the last iceage began its retreat. But we are now at that point in the graph (closer to the melting point of ice) when even a minor advance means one helluva lot. No one notices the difference between a day in January when the temp is -15 Centigrade, and the next day when it is -5 Centigrade -- it's still cold!

But later on, in April, when it's -5C one day and +5C the next day, it seems positively warm. The differential is still only 10C degrees, but what a difference! That is what we feeling now in Global Warming. More ice, though still frozen, is less cold than it was back in the old days, and now it is beginning to melt more easily. Carbon Dioxide was locked up in fossil fuels for millenniums until human activity began to release it from coal and oil a few hundred years ago. We are paying the price now in an acceleration of natural forces which will affect all pocketbooks soon enough - watch for those storms on Wall St., they're gonna getcha!

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TheFallibleFiend, LORTON, VA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:13:04 GMT

E. O. Wilson is brilliant, but I don't know that he has management or political experience. We ought not just pick a person because he's famous.

Francis Collins might be a good choice for the reasons cited, plus because he's had some experience with navigating the Washington bureaucracy. But we shouldn't restrict the field because he's famous - look at the directors of our national labs, the NIH, fellows of the national academies, etc.

Whoever is selected should have a team from different areas and different focuses: theoretical, engineering, technology; bio, chem, physics ... and I still think this should have some relation to OSTP.

http://www.ostp.gov/

Maybe OSTP would fit under a new cabinet level position.

However, I reiterate that all the advice in the world from the greatest geniuses who ever lived will not be effective if the president is intransigent. Politicians and political activists fail to understand that mandating the laws of physics is a waste of effort.

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TheFallibleFiend, LORTON, VA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:21:27 GMT

One wonders whom Bush/Cheney might nominate for such a position? Michael Crichton? "Dr" Kent Hovind? Bill O'Reilly?

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Jim St. Louis, MO — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:18:13 GMT

Mr. Gore.... a discredited psuedo scientist, blow hard who has backed into undeserved awards.... Yeah I would want someone like him to be giving the President scientific advise.. sure.

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Jim, St. Louis, MO — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:33:37 GMT

Danny In CA:

Thank you. I think many people understand that "global warming" or not, our dependence on oil is not good and the resulting pollution has a very negative impact on the planet and the quality of our lives. What is worrisome to me is that this danger is being overshadowed by the "carbon neutral cult" which says that I can have my wasteful lifestyle and still be holier than thou when it comes to being "green". What a crock! The problems need long terms solutions folks, not some slogan or slick campaign. Al Gore and his ilk wouldn't know true environmentalism if it hit them in the face.

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a p garcia, san benito, texas — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:07:33 GMT

AlGore a scientist, you got to be kidding! His degrees of Jurisprudence and Theology are not what makes a scientist. Science Czar for him should be science zero.

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Delmar Fairchild, Barron, WI — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:58:12 GMT

The earth will take care of itself. Who are we to say we are to be the dominate species forever? We need someone to put a pencil to what is happening and what will happen when the human population doubles. I believe the math says we are too far over the hump to prevent anything. This is nature's solution.

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B. Cowley, Salt Lake City, Utah — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:15:45 GMT

I keep reading here that people would like a "real" scientist, not Gore. Of course, a person with a deep understanding of science is always a positive. But in the theater of politics and leadership you need to be foremost an effective politician and leader. One may be the most brilliant scientist in the world, but if you don't know politics, your brilliance will get nothing done in the vicious world of politicis. Best would be a proven leader, great politician, and knowledgeable scientist. But I'd take a scientifically inclined effective politician like Gore over the zealous religious leaders America is rife with any day. If there is one place we could do with fewer non-scientists, it might be the people making this stream of emotionally laced, often scientifically challenged list of comments.

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Rod, Houston — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:20:08 GMT

I think reading this 'science' blog is the scariest thing I have done in a long time.

What a bunch of ignorant fools.

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Paul, Seattle, Washington — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:15:03 GMT

I think Al Gore is the most important American governmental leader in our generation. He played a key role in creating the internet (among other things, his bill provided the funding for the first Internet browser), he held the first hearings on global warming in 1978, he worked tirelessly to streamline government in the 1990s (leading to a huge drop in welfare rolls, as unemployed single mothers were integrated back into the workforce), he was part of the last administration that balanced the budget, he warned about the morass the Iraq war turned into, he has made a huge fortune by his association with Google and Apple computer since the 2000 election, he is a helluva a stockpicker and businessman... these are two of the most successful American companies in this timeframe.

Al Gore would be a big help to Americans, if he could play a significant role in the next Democratic administration.

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Erik Buck — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:20:50 GMT

NASA and the other agencies which actually measure global temperatures, as opposed those who believe ignorant folk like St. Algore, all agree that global warming stopped in 1998, and recently the globe has cooled, 0.7 degree, which puts us back to 1930, temperaturewise, in spite of increasing CO2 emissions. So, the question is: Are these government agencies deliberately telling lies, or are the chattering classes spewing nonsense?

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Adam Soul — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:19:03 GMT

Several decades ago there were two groups of people - a deceived group, and a group who knew the truth. The truth group listened to the 1000 scientists that said that cigarette smoking was harmful and believed them; because of the basic science. The deceived group listened to the so-called scientists that the tobacco companies hired to deceive the public. Many people were deceived and many people lost their lives. Those of you who don't believe Al Gore and the 99.9% of all scientists whose studies have determined that global warming is real, is now, and is extremely dangerous, are the deceived group of today.

If you want to know the truth you must listen to the scientists, not the propaganda put out by profit-based companies who depend on people not knowing the truth.

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brook beam, fort atkinson, wi — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:41:18 GMT

al gore isn't the alarmist, all of the responses to this article are; what's alarming is the level of scientific ignorance with respect to how the scientific community -- and scientific method as a whole, for that matter -- operate. the response from matthew kennel (physicist) is how a real scientist thinks (and should think). those of us with scientific backgrounds and an understanding of the scientific method need to stop taking the comments like the ones to this article without a fight and call people out on their egocentric -- and outright erroneous -- statements. for instance, idiotic comments referencing the petition of 19,000 "scientists," or the irrelevance of our co2 emissions with respect to the rest of the atmosphere, or the earth's "natural" cycle of heating and cooling.

seriously, if you don't have the credentials to comment on the issue, or are not immersed enough in the scientific community to have an understanding OF the scientific community, then hold your unfounded "opinions" to yourself, because you're not accomplishing anything except further perpetuating ignorance.