Will muons reveal Maya mysteries?

J.C.,TEXAS — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:19:39 GMT

Nasa should use this Techiques to scope out the "MOON AND MARS"for underground caves and volcanic activity.

Will muons reveal Maya mysteries?

T.S. , Miami ,Fla — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:43:19 GMT

What did you call me??!! I ain't no muon!

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Don Johnson — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:44:03 GMT

Can you reverse the usage of Muon to be used to ignited suppected IUD's in the war against terrorist. It seems that if these atoms (if thats what they are) could be used to saturate an area where an suspected IUD is and if the frequency is increased it will cause the munition to explode.

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steve smyth lynn ma — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:43:34 GMT

Interesting, but I would like to have been there when Henry Ford, and J.P. Morgan went into one of the Egyptian Pyramids with a long gone relation of mine, and just sat there, hoping to discover the secrets of immortality.
Imagine just exactly how wacky those guys were.
All the money in the world...for all intents and purposes, J.P. owned France for a while there...and they're sitting in some dank, dusty hole in the ground, wanting even more...
The long gone relation...Smyth, I forget his first name...was a premier Egyptologist of the day...there are books on the topic...check it out...much more romantically nuts than muons, etc...the definitive answer isn't always the best thing, eh?

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Red Pill Junkie, Mexico city — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:19:13 GMT

This sure sounds pretty exciting! I wonder if they could also use thise technique to survey the newly found tomb of Aztec emperor Ahuizotl, at Mexico's downtown.

And I suppose that having to bury the detectors might rule them out on the tomb of the first chinese emperor. But who knows?

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Gill Avila — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:11:38 GMT

Detonating any IUD's could annoy a lot of women. You do know that IUD stands for the birth control method called Intra-Uterine-Device?

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Dr. W, Orbis Primus — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:55:17 GMT

How long does a body have to be buried before it's fair game for archeologists? Judging by the fairly recent desecra--I mean, excavation of the de Medici tombs in Florence, some of which are only three or four centuries old, it seems archeologists consider it open season on any grave or tomb. I imagine they'll soon be bombarding the local cemeteries with muons, after they've dug up our own dearly departed.

Oh, they'll do it all very respectfully, I'm sure--then rebury all the remains and artifacts in our modern mass graves, museums.

Do archeologists themselves get buried after they die? Why? To provide jobs for future archeologists, I suppose.

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Dennis McCarthy, Chennai, India — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:23:37 GMT

This system should be used in either Tiahuanaco, or in Cuzco, to plot the extensive tunnels there. Humanity could learn much from what is in those tunnels reaching all the way to Brazil, with lost cities along the way. It is also very curious why Zawi Hawass does not want the world to know what is under, and around the Sphinx in Giza. A few of these devices buried there would solve alot of mysteries.

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Kyle T, Kansas City, KS — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:33:46 GMT

ok since the writer of the article didnt seem to think it was necessary, will someone explain 1st what MUON stands for or is?

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steve smyth lynn ma — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:18:14 GMT

Before I get corrected...the above story comes from E.L.Doctorow's "Ragtime"...the characters are real, but the reality is not...oops!...early AM fantasy, I guess.
However, this will make up for the boo-boo.
http://www.smythspace.tv/oct23.html
Hi Al,
I think this one's good enough to include in the text.
A lot of people should have the opportunity to see it.
thanx

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J.D., St. Louis — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:12:11 GMT

Exploding IUDs? Whoo, tough method of birth control.

Something to explode IEDs might be helpful, though.

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Chris, Philly — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:52:19 GMT

Don!

How did we direct talk of scanning ancient pyramids into detecting IED's (not IUD's)? Didn't you read the part about it taking extensive periods of time to gather the readings? What would you have our troops do, have our EOD guys put a muon detector near a suspected IED and wait six months for the results?

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Andy Centek — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:11:35 GMT

If on read "The Emerald Tablets" of Thoth; available on line, then one sees we are about to SEE !

Reading " The Book Of Unrantia" is also a big help to understanding what has been and will be.

Will muons reveal Maya mysteries?

Artifacter, Auburn Hills, Michigan — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:40 GMT

Using this technology on burial mounds in the MidWest would yield interesting results without destroying these ancient graves.

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craig England Nottingham — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:27:33 GMT

wow interest stuff is there any way you can use that sort of technology through a telescope to discover planets

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Meri — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:18:15 GMT

Don, sorry to rain on your parade, but the technology here really can't be turned around to induce an IED explosion.

First, the muons (which are not atoms, but much smaller, high energy particles) are not being created by the scientists, but by the solar wind hitting our atmosphere. The technology referenced in this article is simply taking measurements of the direction the muons are being reflected after hitting objects of differing densities (dirt, rock, open rooms, etc). Actually generating these particles would take a huge amount of resources and is the sort of thing typically done only in particle accelerators.

Second, setting off an IED is not as simple as bombarding it with high energy particles. Contrary to what Hollywood special affects artists tend to portray, most objects will not explode when bombarded with large amounts of energy. It is not a matter of simply "adjusting the frequency." Then we have to contend with the fact that there are as many ways to build an IED as there are people building them. Some use plastic explosives such as C4, others use more mundane chemicals such as gasoline. Finding the proper "resonance points" for all of these materials, as well as all of the different possible packaging holding the IED together, would be incredibly difficult and resource intensive, assuming that we could even develop a technology capable of doing this. Giving soldiers a bag of rocks to chuck out in front of their humvee at suspected IED locations would be much less resource (i.e. energy and research) intensive and much more likely to produce the desired results.

Based on the research discussed in this article, I would guess that we wouldn't want to use muons anyway simply due to the fact that they tend to bounce off of objects they encounter. This is the property that is allowing the researchers to use muons for their work. Imagine firing off a stream of high energy sub-atomic particles at a bomb, only to have those same particles bounce right off and come back toward you?

Sorry to dissect your idea like this, but I come from a heavy background in science and really hate seeing exciting new research such as this turned around into something out of a sci-fi movie. If you want a death-ray, go look up Nikola Tesla and then we'll talk ;)

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J Barrett — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:36:38 GMT

This is a problem:
"Schwitters said computer simulations indicate that the mini-muon detectors could spot the telltale signs of a buried chamber the size of a hotel ballroom..."
This may work for locating caves, but the Maya were generally less ambitious in their architecture (a necessity as they lacked a Roman arch). I have never excavated a chamber, nor have I ever observed a chamber at any consolidated Maya site, remotely close to the size of a hotel ballroom.

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Jewels Vern, Phoenix, AZ — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:26:26 GMT

The last time somebody tried this the only result was the pyramid razor blade sharpener. Maybe this time we'll see something more useful. It would be nice to have something that finds my little screwdriver that I keep losing.

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Barney, Seattle WA — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:03:01 GMT

Great this is exactly how we need to find the unknown. Once this is up and running can someone please check under the paw of the sphinx?

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Deepthought — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:05:54 GMT

IUDs! ROFL!

Don, I think you meant IEDs.

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Alan Boyle — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:27:14 GMT

Sorry, Kyle ... I just noted that muons are subatomic particles and left it at that. Muons are interesting critters to physicists because they're often what comes out when other, harder-to-spot particles decay. Muons interact relatively weakly with matter, and they're charged particles, so you can track them as they shoot out from a particle collision. Their discovery is famous in that it showed how varied and quirky the smorgasbord of subatomic particles can be. When physicist Isidor Rabi learned of the discovery of muons in the 1930s, he uttered the famous line: "Who ordered THAT?"

Here's an archived article that delves a bit more into muon mysteries without getting freakily technical:

http://physci.llnl.gov/Organization/NDivision/HEP/news/g2_nyt.html

(By the way, muons are called that just because they were designated with the Greek letter "mu," just as another type of subatomic particle is known as the pi lepton or "pion.")

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Frank Glover, Rochester, NY — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:04:22 GMT

"Nasa should use this Techiques to scope out the "MOON AND MARS"for underground caves and volcanic activity."

Just be mindful that to do this, you'd have to have boots on the ground (and living space for them) in signifigant numbers already. It's not something you could do from a manned or unmanned orbiter, to scout for possible natural shelters before committing crews to a landing there later...

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Paul Wernet, Clinton Twp, MI — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:52:14 GMT

I like it. I think it is good.

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Dr Mike — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:22:26 GMT

Muons are among the MANY high energy particles that radiate throughout space,through our planet and even through your body right this moment. We don't even know how fast they travel and it is highly possible that they are even faster than light.

The device is extremely heavy, so its use on Mars or the Moon etc would be impractical. Considering how much effort it takes to put a 200 pound rover on the planet today. They are directional like a transducer or x-ray device. But they have a weak signal/emission attenuation and the reception of that signal is primitive at present. Kinda like taking a photo in a completely dark room without a flash or adequate light source.

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the rock atqasuk,ak — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:15:06 GMT

take it to isreal and stop packbackers didnt they say there was tunnels,there for them to be unseen this could help alot over there .. or are we still looking up?

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the rock atqasuk,ak — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:22:05 GMT

we got a better chance of finding bin-laden then solve the mayan mysteries ..isnt he still worth 25 million bucks dead or alive?

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th rock — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:44:04 GMT

can i borrow this for a week...if i find bin laden we can have a beer with obama too