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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx</link><description>Once again, high-tech types are joining the life-and-death search for snow-trapped travelers: Less than a week after the drama of the lost Kim family played out in southern Oregon, heat-seeking planes and phone-seeking gizmos are being employed to look</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)</generator><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20523</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:47:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20523</guid><dc:creator>Joseph McKenzie, Dallas Tx.</dc:creator><description>Lets hope this technology helps. That's my best friend's Uncle up there and we all hope he makes it.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20524</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:10:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20524</guid><dc:creator>Ed, Prineville, OR</dc:creator><description>Quit enabling stupidity, if these men were as experienced as all the news reports would have us believe, they would have checked the oncoming weather, Oregon's winter weather history and chosen a more appropriate time of the year to go risking their lives and their rescuer's lives on top of an icy mountain.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20530</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:42:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20530</guid><dc:creator>Jane Doe</dc:creator><description>I agree with Ed Prineville, OR</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20531</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:46:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20531</guid><dc:creator>Montie</dc:creator><description>I was married to a high altitude/alpine climber for years. We are now divorced. I was always worried he would not come back from a climb. He chose mountain climbing over me. Such is life. But I do miss him.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20534</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:50:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20534</guid><dc:creator>Juliette Montie</dc:creator><description>Ed in Prineville, these climbers can't help what they do. If they die on the mountain, that was their choice to risk everything. Believe me, I know. I lost my husband to the mountains. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20537</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:53:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20537</guid><dc:creator>Juliette</dc:creator><description>I wish people would stop bothering with who is going to pay for this. I'm sure the families will pay for the search and rescue/recovery. Not an issue. This is mountaineering. Deal with it.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20538</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:56:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20538</guid><dc:creator>Juliette Page, AZ, 86040</dc:creator><description>I'm sure the families are going to pay for this, regardless of the outcome. So sad. Mountaineering is a risky endeavor. I feel sorry for the families, as my ex-husband was lost to the mountains. Its in their blood. You can't stop it.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20540</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:03:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20540</guid><dc:creator>Chris Eldridge</dc:creator><description>In and among my recommendations for more adequate municipal buildings, I've been calling for ranger stations to also have more robust facilities and equipment.  A Sikorsky Cipher recon drone that can take off and land vertically was one of my recommendations for surveying areas after a natural disaster, looking for lost people, or looking for illegal poachers hunting wild game in the woods.  It just seems more can be done at every front for safety and emergency assistance.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20543</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:16:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20543</guid><dc:creator>R Anderson, Alma Arkansas</dc:creator><description>What person hasn't done something stupid they later regretted.  Humanity seems unwilling to hear good advice when offered and for some reason insist on proving the opposite until the truth smacks us in the face.  Still, stupidity shouldn't be a reason to condemn someone.  I sincerely hope they are found and that none are lost in the process. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20545</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:27:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20545</guid><dc:creator>Bill, Portland, OR</dc:creator><description>Why didn't these guys bother to utilize the locator devices which I understand are available to climbers on Mt Hood?  At least then the rescuers would have a chance of finding them.  With the whiteout conditions they could be in a snow cave and be walked over without ever seeing them. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20549</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:03:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20549</guid><dc:creator>Ben, formerly Portland OR</dc:creator><description>Mt. Hood-specific locator devices are available for rent at many locations in the Portland and Mt. Hood area.  I climbed Mt Hood a few years ago in a group of about 30 people.  I was the only one humble enough to carry the device. I think there is a certain sense of invulnerability that climbers have if they have had a few successful climbs.  It will be a tragic if these men don't make it simply because they didn't bother to rent a locator.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20556</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:47:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20556</guid><dc:creator>Eric, Washington</dc:creator><description>5 bucks for a transponder.  Enough said.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20558</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:59:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20558</guid><dc:creator>Pat, Toledo,Ohio</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Pushing the envelope.&lt;BR&gt;It is a drive that makes history, creates change and can help to make things better, a natural human characteristic in some. &lt;BR&gt;Climbers push the envelope; they make it a study.&lt;BR&gt;Search and Rescuers push the envelope, they are driven to find. &lt;BR&gt;Engineers push the envelope, and we are endowed with technological advances.&lt;BR&gt;Here you have them all together in one scenario, each doing thier personal best, each finding and seeking to go beyond their limits, living life to their fullest, experiencing their uniqueness, their talent and finding just what they can be capable of. &amp;nbsp;It is actually a noble quality to have the drive to test your limits and reach. &amp;nbsp;It is when you are fully alive and aware of yourself. &amp;nbsp;Some people give their life to the mundane and safe, never knowing who or what they are. I wish I could be on that mountain looking for them. &amp;nbsp;I am a hopeless rescuer, just as some are hopelessly determined to climb or invent the animal that can do what we have found to be beyond our limits.&lt;BR&gt;That is why we have Rudolph the rednosed reindeer, and that is what I think we need right now. Someone get a hold of Santa and see if we can get Rudolph out there until we come up with that Robot. And yes. I am waiting for those robots. Meanwhile, we need to keep climbing. &amp;nbsp;It is our nature.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20562</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:21:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20562</guid><dc:creator>Mark </dc:creator><description>Climb a mountain ONCE and you will know the passion it sparks.   Adventure is a part of their life - one can sit in their homes and criticize those who take risks - but remember it is these type of people who discover new things, new ideas, and go where few people chose to go. Instead of slamming these guys we should all be praying and hoping for their safe return...   On the other hand - if they are gone - at least they will pass doing something they love - how many people you know have died sitting in their homes DOING NOTHING!   Where there are mountains - there are climbers...  No mountain too tall...  Godspeed my 3 friends...    Mark </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20568</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:51:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20568</guid><dc:creator>William J. Bean, M.D., Ph.D.  (World)</dc:creator><description>It is quite disturbing to read the comment above from "Oregon" ascribing the current situation solely as the result of "stupidity."  The commentor jumps to the conclusion that these experienced climbers did not take all reasonable precautions including weather analyses and forecasts as well as carrying transponders/locators.  Currently, we don't know all the details, and a rush to judgement is both callous and unhelpful.  From our vast experience of mountain climbing around the world in all seasons, we have encountered a never-ending set of challenges even with the ultimate in preparation and caution. In our experiences, some of the most violent, precipitous weather changes have happened in the milder months of the year.  Avalanche, hypothermia, pulmonary edema, equipment failure, complications of hypoxia, etc...such is the nature of the beast.  Our focus here should be unified in the rescue of these men with the hope that they all are alive and well.  This attitude would also extend to Ed of Prineville should he ever find himself in some predicament.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20571</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20571</guid><dc:creator>Jason; Saratoga Springs NY</dc:creator><description>I understand people's desire to push limits and take risks.  Please realize though that the search and rescue people take big risks trying to save people, who may or may not have been prudent.  If they took the most difficult approach to the mountain at a bad time of year with approching weather, and didn't even have the respect to rent one of the emergency beacons, it sounds more like arrogance than true climbers who respect nature.  If you take risks, you need to be humble about it and respect the people who may suffer because of them.  Also, to those who say the families will pay, that is usually not the case... often these bills run literally in the 6-figures.  I believe the Kim's were paying $1,000/hour for private helicopter services.  Chances are they will only pay a small percentage of the real costs.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20579</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:21:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20579</guid><dc:creator>Dave, Costa Mesa, CA</dc:creator><description>I was talking to friends yesterday about how someone should invent a GPS type device that climbers could rent at ranger stations or something. I guess I am behind times and I am not a climber. Either way, I hope these guys come out alive, with a great story. I dont think it matters if they checked the weather or not, things can change fast up there. You must admit, if in the morning the news was... "We heard what sounded like an R/C plane above us" God Speed to the climers and all the rescuers.

P.S. Mother Nature, have a heart.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20580</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:43:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20580</guid><dc:creator>Nate, Portland, OR</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;1st off let me just say I hope they are ok.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;2nd off, when will these [people] learn that winter in the cascades and coast range are not something to test in the winter. Just like last week with that family in southern OR now you have these [people] who climb a 11,000 foot mountain in the dead of winter with storms stacked up off the coast. A few years back we lost a blackhawk helicopter looking for&amp;nbsp;... "thrillseekers", luckily the choppers crew was ok but we still lost a $30 million chopper looking for some people who should have never been there to begin with. I think everytime we rescue people like this it sends the wrong message. My feelings is if you purposely put yourself at risk "thrillseeking" then you will NOT be rescued by anyone but your own family. Why put other peoples fathers, brothers, sons, daughters lives in danger to look for you because you want a thrill.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20585</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:46:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20585</guid><dc:creator>KC</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;ATTN: Dave, Costa Mesa, CA &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;The devices have already been invented: &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;There are three types of beacons used to transmit distress signals, EPIRBs (for maritime use), ELTs (for aviation use), and PLBs (used for land-based applications). PLBs can be purchased for $500-$700. They ping satellites monitored by the government and search and rescue teams are sent when they're activated. See &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov"&gt;www.sarsat.noaa.gov&lt;/A&gt; for more info.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20591</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:28:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20591</guid><dc:creator>Anon.,     Michigan</dc:creator><description>I have to agree with the people who say everyone is human, people make mistakes.  I live in Michigan, and I can not sleep at night for worrying about these men and their families. It is heartbreaking, and I can not fathom the attitude of "who cares, they knew what they were doing". This is human life up there, freezing, possibly hurt, I pray they are found alive, and I pray the weather breaks so the searchers can be safe also.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20601</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:22:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20601</guid><dc:creator>Wade Whitlock, Aberdeen, MD</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;At this point there is more likely to be a recovery operation than a rescue. &amp;nbsp;The searchers should be considering their risks. &amp;nbsp;Go climb, cave, BASE jump, whatever, but don't do something that requires other people to endanger themselves to come looking for you. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;How about requiring a bond be posted to cover a week's search before setting out without an ELT? &amp;nbsp;How about a ring of cell phone towers or better yet, one on each peak! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I never minded being called out at 4 AM (always seemed to be!) for a search. &amp;nbsp;It irritated me when the person we were looking for neglected the most basic safety needs and then expected someone to be there to catch them. &amp;nbsp;Examples: &amp;nbsp;no flight plans, no survival gear, penetrating weather (with or without instrument ratings) that they should have waited out or gone around. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;At this point, my concerns are with the SAR personnel.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20613</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:34:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20613</guid><dc:creator>a rorie monroe nc</dc:creator><description>We will fund 12 million illegal aliens medical costs without a whimper,but let someone get lost or hurt climbing a mountain and we worry about who will pay for it. (obviously you have never been up a mountain.) These are the risk takers, and usually contributing members of society as well I might add. 
Get real.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20621</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:08:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20621</guid><dc:creator>Janet, Plano, Texas</dc:creator><description>Ed of Or. You would not be so careless with your words if it were YOUR loved one on that mountain.. I know Brian,and if it were YOU in that situation,,he would be first in line to risk HIS life to save you,,stranger or not!!!!!!!.....</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20652</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:35:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20652</guid><dc:creator>Craig , Seattle , Wash</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;As far as i'm &amp;nbsp;concerned, these guys were gambling they &amp;nbsp;could &amp;nbsp;go &amp;nbsp;up &amp;nbsp;and be down before the &amp;nbsp;weather &amp;nbsp;got too bad. &amp;nbsp;Well &amp;nbsp;guess what , it's time to pay up. They &amp;nbsp;rolled the &amp;nbsp;dice , let them live with the &amp;nbsp;consequences. &amp;nbsp;Crazy's &amp;nbsp;what it was in my mind. With cold storms possibly coming in, taking the hardest route in some places a 50 to &amp;nbsp;60 degree slope, all it takes is a few things to go wrong .. and it looks like they &amp;nbsp;did. I think &amp;nbsp;many of these risk takers &amp;nbsp;are &amp;nbsp;thinking &amp;nbsp;"well if we get into trouble &amp;nbsp;they &amp;nbsp;will come rescue us" and are throwing the scout motto of &amp;nbsp;"be prepared" to the wind. If &amp;nbsp;we stop running to &amp;nbsp;their rescue maybe they &amp;nbsp;will be more &amp;nbsp;cautious in the future. I think &amp;nbsp; we &amp;nbsp;shouldnt be &amp;nbsp;risking any more lives up on that mountain is &amp;nbsp;what i think. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Extreme adventure is sometimes too extreme in my mind .. just rolling the dice .. pretty &amp;nbsp;silly. Life is too &amp;nbsp;precious to be gambling with it on some of these things &amp;nbsp;, pocket Aces &amp;nbsp;get &amp;nbsp;beat all too &amp;nbsp;often.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20663</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:05:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20663</guid><dc:creator>Martin, Irrigon, OR </dc:creator><description>I have faith in god, and also in the goodness of the hearts of those who are willing to risk their own lives to save others. Is this not the season for giving truly from your heart?. I wish with all my heart that these individuals are found safe and well, and I will pray. As for the rescuers, this is what they chose to do, and blessed be their hearts and courage. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20669</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:29:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20669</guid><dc:creator>Twin Falls, ID</dc:creator><description>As a member of my local Search and Rescue, know that most teams are completely volunteer with only minimal state funding. (Gas to location can be reimbursed) But most of the time, the resucers are taking time off from work and donating their time. Please donate to your local Search and Rescue teams. The only equipment we have is bought from money collected from Fundraisers and Donations. Please be generous and maybe we could afford all the high-tech equipment necessary to get these folks off the mountain. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20694</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:41:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20694</guid><dc:creator>Fred James, Austin, Tx</dc:creator><description>Please do not write any insensitive comments(i.e Prineville, Craig)regarding anything having to do with my family as we are all suffering from this situation.We've thought of every angle of this situation and do not need to see anything negative from you. I ask that you PLEASE keep it to yourself as if it were your family. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20706</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:02:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20706</guid><dc:creator>Jerry Owens, Long Beach, California</dc:creator><description>These are human beings we are talking about. So doing the humane thing and rescuing these men is without question the appropriate measure to take. Where in the world does judging these men and throwing our arms in the air to suffering the consequences do justice to anyone. Our hope and prayers need "only" be allowed here, period. Any other opinion is down right shameful.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20730</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:26:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20730</guid><dc:creator>Keri, Sullivan, IL</dc:creator><description>I've never climbed a mountain nor have I known anyone with this passion.  That is NOT the issue.  These are human beings and some of the cold-hearted comments that have been posted are unbelievable and the authors should be ashamed.  This is a horrible, unfortunate situation.....period.  I pray that the weather lifts soon and this mission results in a To the families of these three hikers--stay strong.  MOST of America is praying for you.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20751</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:12:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20751</guid><dc:creator>Joy Cox Tulsa, OK</dc:creator><description>I just want to say my thoughts and prayers are with the climbers and their family. You will be in my prayers. God Bless - Joy
</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20753</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:16:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20753</guid><dc:creator>Michael Patty, Pocatello, ID</dc:creator><description>There is no price that can be placed on a life. When lives hang in the balance, it doesn't matter if the victims are foolish, victims of circumstance or any other descriptive. All that becomes irrelevant. All that matters is saving that life. Berating the victims for causing their situation is not only callous and insensitive to family members that might read these comments, but it's also completely pointless at this stage.
</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20756</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:20:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20756</guid><dc:creator>Karen, Waco, Texas</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;These men are not only mountain climbers, but sons, husbands, fathers, and dear friends. It is not only their lives that are affected. It's a small world and we should care for one another. There is a tendency just look at the surface of these stories. We often don't remember names. They become "those mountain climbers in Oregon." This really hit me today when I realized that Kelly James is a very dear friend to two people that are important in my life. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;This is not just a story--it's the lives of 3 men. Men who have friends and family who are sick with worry. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;As we pray for them let's not pray for the "Oregon mountain climbers," but for Kelly James, Brian Hall and Nikko Cooke.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20757</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:21:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20757</guid><dc:creator>John David, Colo Spgs , Co</dc:creator><description>  God Bless the rescue attempt and the rescuers.  I hope all works out.  Those writting negative comments may want to think about help they may need in the future.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20758</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:22:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20758</guid><dc:creator>Allison, Boise, Idaho</dc:creator><description>Fred - There is a whole slew of people here in Boise Idaho who are praying for Brian, Kelly and Nikko!!! We pray for God's hedge of protection around these 3 men, a break in the weather and their safe return! We are behind you as prayer warriors!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20770</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:55:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20770</guid><dc:creator>Gordon, Charleston, SC</dc:creator><description>Hey, people. Ever heard of GPS. Rquire all climber to carry somethnig like "Onstar". Always on condition. Can be tracted, to within 3 meters. In any direction.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20771</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:57:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20771</guid><dc:creator>Janet,Florence,Oregon</dc:creator><description>I just want to say to the families and friends of the climbers: the hearts of the nation are with you and your plight ,at this very hour! We care! God cares!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20773</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:03:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20773</guid><dc:creator>Carol, Los Alamitos, CA</dc:creator><description>For those ones that have said only negative things, shame on you. We are all human beings and I think that the three of them need all our prayers right now. God Bless there family and hope that we find these men safe.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20776</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:12:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20776</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><description>You never leave a fellow climber/hiker behind or missing unless that's the only life-or-death choice remaining. ("Touching the Void", Into Thin Air", etc.) 
That's why the SAR folks do what they do: because they care. Deeply. They will not take stupid chances, but they will not give up until they either find their people or they're pulled off the mountain.
That's just the way it is, always has been and always will be. It's that simple. It's the Golden Rule. It's Karma.
Send a warm and strong light from your heart to each and every person on Mt. Hood.
P&amp;L</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20778</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:13:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20778</guid><dc:creator>Rev. Cedar Wolfsinger, Parsippany, NJ</dc:creator><description>What makes people climb mountains?  I don't know.  People who participate in Search &amp; Rescue are the same kind of folks who run IN to a burning building when everyone else is running OUT -- I know some of them.  They value human life -- they don't care WHY someone is lost, they just try to find them.  All the prayers and energies we can muster should be with those who are lost -- and those who seek them.  Blessings to you!  Know that there are people who will hope and pray with you through this -- I and my household are some of them.  </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20782</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:16:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20782</guid><dc:creator>Angela Hull, Dallas, Texas</dc:creator><description>God Bless Us Everyone!  Peace, Love and Hope to these guys and their families.  </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20796</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:38:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20796</guid><dc:creator>Janet, Chewelah, Wash.</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;After reading all of the above comments, my comment is that almost everyone has some valid points in what they are saying, but I don't agree with all of them. &amp;nbsp;It may be valid that no one wants to pay for someone else's mistakes, but the point is not who pays, who made mistakes or who might have to pay for it in the end. &amp;nbsp;The point is, who are we as human beings?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Are or are we not&amp;nbsp;our brother's keepers, which translates into do we or do we not reach out to others when they are in desperate need? &amp;nbsp;The above commentaries are certainly a cross section of our society and how we react when others are in trouble. Thankfully, the majority are showing compassion and concern. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;As a final comment, Jesus Christ came to save us from all of the mistakes that we each make and he told us not to judge each other. &amp;nbsp;I intend to spend my energy praying for these men and their families and I encourage the rest of you to do the same. &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20808</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:14:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20808</guid><dc:creator>tucson arizona</dc:creator><description>i wonder if it is possible to put in place a temporary cell phone network to reach their phone.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20810</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:18:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20810</guid><dc:creator>gerald potts</dc:creator><description>If these guys are experienced climbers they must have known that bad weather was certainly a possibility.  Is it common for people to tackle this mountain at tihs time of the year?  It doesn't make sense to me.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20833</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:13:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20833</guid><dc:creator>Peter, Oregon</dc:creator><description>I hope the climbers are rescued and reunited with their families. But whatever happens, it won't be because of anyone's superstitious prayers to a non-existent "supreme being". You might as well rub a rabbit's foot or consult a Ouija board.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20860</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:18:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20860</guid><dc:creator>Dave, Elgin, IL</dc:creator><description>Yes. Do everything we can to get them off the mountain safely. The rescuers do not need to hear that their efforts are without merit, they are putting their lives in jeopardy doing what they know is important. There are a lot more senseless things going on in the middle east, at our expense, than what is going on in this rescue. We certainly shouldn't worry about who pays for this effort to save lives.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20865</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:03:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20865</guid><dc:creator>Robbie W. Wrightwood, CA</dc:creator><description>Could be that something unforeseen happened,and they were prepared to climb in the time-frame they had planned, and get out before the weather came in... but maybe someone had gotten hurt, twisted ankle, or something... and it forced them to stay longer. It has happened to me and I understand how a situation that you have completely under control comes to a situation where you may be fighting for survival. Don't judge, people.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20874</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:32:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20874</guid><dc:creator>SW, Orlando, FL</dc:creator><description>Dr. Frank James, Everyone at RTS Orlando is praying for you and your family that your brother, Kelly, and the other two men will come home safely. I know the Lord Jesus will help you and your family persevere through this difficult time...</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20875</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:36:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20875</guid><dc:creator>Corey Permann            Northern                Nevada</dc:creator><description>The Search and Rescue motto is "So that others may live" that's why we do this. Good luck you guys and Godspeed.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20880</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:23:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20880</guid><dc:creator>Mechelle, Amarillo, TEXAS</dc:creator><description>Frankly, I'm shocked at how much negativity and pure bitterness I've read here. I happen to know that these 3 men, Kelly, Brian and Nikko are very fine men. They are highly intelligent, good friends, family members, and contributors to this world. I pray, my family prays and my friends pray, that Kelly, Brian, and Nikko are brought home safely to their families and friends who are in so much agony just waiting for a bit of news. We pray for everyone involved in the search, and we thank them. We also pray for a break in the weather. If you don't pray, then go hug a tree, or rub a rabbit's foot, do whatever you do when someone you love is in trouble, for heaven's sake, do SOMETHING!! But please, remember what your elders taught you, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"! Fred, stay strong. You and your family as well as Brian and Nikko's families are all wrapped in the arms of angels.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20885</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:45:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20885</guid><dc:creator>Bob E., Alamogordo, NM</dc:creator><description>Whether or not it was wise to climb the mountain, they went and are in trouble. God speed to the rescue folks, may GOD keep you safe and help you find these men alive.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20886</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:52:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20886</guid><dc:creator>Adolfo, Houston Tx</dc:creator><description>Its not fair to blame those 3 guys lost in the mountains. Thats like blaming the passengers of the Titanic for getting on a ship that didnt have enough lifeboats. Regardless of why they are there, they need help. This nation prides itself on helping people in need. Thats why it has become a national news story and the search will continue until they are found.   </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20893</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:40:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20893</guid><dc:creator>vickie denver nc</dc:creator><description>it is nice to see we live in a country with human kindness still around forgetting the cost. when a life is at risk it is threw GOD we care thanks to the teams helping out may GOD guide you to these men GOD is bigger than anything ..let his spirt be with  them and bring them home. give peace to their familes. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20902</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:00:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20902</guid><dc:creator>Doug,Oregon City,Or</dc:creator><description>I've lived in Oregon all my life close to this majestic breathtaking mountain. For those of us that are not mountain climers but have stood at the base of this mountain and looked up at this peak you cannot be anything but awstruck.I can understand the human nature to conquer but this is a story that's played out before many times with good and bad results.The devices like transponders that are now available to help climers and rescuers certainly should be used but lets just hope that some good will come of this like better ways of locating climers that are stranded. I salute all those involved and prayers to the families and the men lost on that magestic mountain.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20908</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:22:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20908</guid><dc:creator>DS, Blacksburg, VA</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I spent plenty of time in the Cascades when I lived in Washington, and I volunteer for my local search and rescue team in the Appalachian mountains. &amp;nbsp;I drop everything and go when the call comes in for a rescue, no matter the weather. &amp;nbsp;That said, it doesn't stop me from wondering why people do crazy things, like climb Hood light-and-fast in December and refuse to spend $5 on a PLB. &amp;nbsp;I can understand the first part, but not the second. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;There is nothing wrong with voicing these concerns. &amp;nbsp;The rescue will go forward, but the truth does have to &amp;nbsp;stated: these men chose to risk their lives. &amp;nbsp;Now others are voluntarily risking their own lives to try to save them. &amp;nbsp;No one was forced to do anything. &amp;nbsp;It's a moral puzzle, and wondering about all sides of the issue is a natural human reaction. &amp;nbsp;There is also a valid question about who pays for others' mistakes. &amp;nbsp;Our team doesn't charge a penny, but the taxpayers will be footing a huge bill for the law enforcement involvement in this search, and a rational discussion of that is certainly appropriate. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I have all the doubts in the world, but I think the important thing is that I still put on my pack and go. &amp;nbsp;SAR teams are not made up of robots. &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20975</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:47:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20975</guid><dc:creator>John Doe Wa.</dc:creator><description>Just want to say that my prayers are with the three men and their families. God will clear the path that the rescue men need to get to the three men. They will be home for Christmas.  </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20978</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:52:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20978</guid><dc:creator>brett knox tn</dc:creator><description>i think they will find them safe and sound and cold as --ll ... thats what we do </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20990</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:27:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20990</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous, Northwest Florida</dc:creator><description>Thank goodness for the volunteers &amp; those willing to give their time.  My husband is there on his first rescue mission as part of the search &amp; rescue team using the drones, and it's pretty scary to think of how large the mountain is.  I hope a miracle pulls through &amp; they find even one of the three men.
</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20991</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:29:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20991</guid><dc:creator>Shaun, Klamath Falls, OR</dc:creator><description>No sympathy here, I have climbed Mt. Hood 3 times now, there is no reason they should have assumed they could make it before the weather hit or for not taking the proper gear knowing there was a chance it would hit while they were up there. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20995</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:47:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20995</guid><dc:creator>Rev. Kim Dixon, Rockaway, New Jersey</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I have read the majority of the comments and I am both shocked and appalled. &amp;nbsp;There are three men somewhere on that mountain and I'm asking God to have mercy on them and bring them back alive to their families. &amp;nbsp;If you have nothing encouraging to say, then it's best not to say anything. &amp;nbsp;I suggest we put our minds together and pray. &amp;nbsp;Why? &amp;nbsp;Because that is all we can do right now! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Reverend Kim Dixon, &lt;BR&gt;New Jersey&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#20996</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:47:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:20996</guid><dc:creator>Jennifer Rhodes- Yoncalla, OR.</dc:creator><description>  I believe GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS, I PRAY for the 3 men on Mtn. hood and their familys. REMEMBER GOD KNOWS RIGHT WHERE THESE MEN ARE.  LETS GET ON OUR KNEES AND PRAY!        Jennifer</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21005</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:12:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21005</guid><dc:creator>Lisa Koester - Appleton, WI</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Attn: Jason - Sarasota&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;My son is going to be a Fire Fighter/EMT. &amp;nbsp;Do you think that the Search and Rescue teams want to go to work everyday and sit there? &amp;nbsp;I am not sure what your profession is, however, just like the Armed Forces, they know what they are doing as they chose this profession. &amp;nbsp;My son will fight fires, these men will always search and rescue the rest of us that have the means, the gumption and the nerve to live outside of the box. &amp;nbsp;Don't judge them, pray for them, ALL of them.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21009</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:21:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21009</guid><dc:creator>Marsha, Houston, Texas</dc:creator><description>I think Adolfo in Houston is SPOT-ON !
Forgetabout the costs!  Some things are priceless.
Aren't we Americans?  Isn't this what we do as a people...for anyone and everyone?

It's Christmas, for the love of God, quit typing and get out there and DO SOMETHING!!!!!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21012</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:27:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21012</guid><dc:creator>Rick Connos</dc:creator><description>Hind Sight,always 20/20..Thanks for the Volenteers,who ae up,along w/Sheriff,s office..get these guys out safe,then you can tell them all the good stuff they should have done!!...God speed climers..Rick C.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21020</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:39:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21020</guid><dc:creator> MacMorran, Dottie Ellijay, GA</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;You know, here is the perfect example of Christmas Cheer. &amp;nbsp;Have we forgot that we are all one and that no matter what the circumstances come from, that we are still God's Children and that God loves us all. So if one makes a mistake and climbs a mountain or makes a wrong turn what ever it is, God would want us to love and respect all. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;It would be the perfect gift to give these families for Christmas and I pray all three will survive and make home safe. &amp;nbsp;Just think if it was you, your son, husband or just a good friend. God be with them and may they follow that special star home tonight.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21022</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:42:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21022</guid><dc:creator>Kenneth Biggs , Edmonton  KY</dc:creator><description>10,000 feet, a small plane is permitted to fly , both for rare air and the need for safety rules apply , transponder is the name of the game for thrills try the highest mountain in Denali National Park Alaska , I think anyone would want to protect the rescue teams.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21023</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:44:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21023</guid><dc:creator>Craig, Salem Or</dc:creator><description>I agree with the others, when it comes to climbing in the dead of winter you personally have to assume the worst can happen and leave no precaution undone, ie. tracking device or picking a better date to climb with a larger window of better weather.  I've lived here in oregon all my life and hunt, fish and snowski in the cascades and still now you can get in trouble in a split sec.  I don't understand though the comments that say its in there blood to climb, were's the common sense though when doing this in extreme weather? Is the thrill worth your own life?</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21025</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:46:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21025</guid><dc:creator>Brad S, Dallas TX.</dc:creator><description>[...] The greatest &amp;nbsp;device on the planet for hikers &amp;amp; campers is an ACR GPS Terra/AquaFix PLB aka Personal Locator Beacon. $600/3 people is rather cheap if something life threatening hits the fan. Don't leave home without &amp;nbsp;it. I carry one even on commercial flights.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21030</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:52:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21030</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><description>No matter the outcome or the reasons why these guys took this on, future climbers should be required to carry PLB and all necessary equipment for the conditions and time of year before they leave. Maybe the local rangers can at least check them out. I've not been to Hood, but I'll assume they need some kind of permit to make an assent. I know we've needed that on past ones that are popular, like Whitney. Each time I hear these kinds of stories, the lyrics and tune to the song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", always comes to mind. ("T'was the Wich of November come stealing.")&lt;BR&gt;This is a good link to the song and the story behind it:&lt;BR&gt; &lt;A href="http://www.chrischabot.com/ed_song.html" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://www.chrischabot.com/ed_song.html&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;BR&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21032</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:54:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21032</guid><dc:creator>Tod, Barrington, NH</dc:creator><description>Ed from prineville, craig from seattle, shaun from klamath falls, and Jane Doe......it is bad enough to even think thoughts like this is your head let alone vocalize and/or put them in print.&amp;nbsp;[...] To all who are involved in this operation and to the men and their families: &amp;nbsp;may everyone come out healthy and safe. &amp;nbsp;The world's prayers are with you.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21033</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:03:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21033</guid><dc:creator>J. King, smyrna,De</dc:creator><description>Lewis and Clark&amp;lt;risk takers&amp;gt;; Columbus &amp;lt;risk taker&amp;gt; or any other who has pushed the limit. Without risk takers we would still be stuck in the dark ages. So please send up your prayers for the safe return of these men and remember that each and every one of our everyday mundane lives&amp;nbsp;is still full of RISKS. &lt;BR&gt;so keep your finger pointing to yourself.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21047</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:45:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21047</guid><dc:creator>Susan, Overland Park, KS</dc:creator><description>How sad there are people out there that believe it's okay if you die because you did something stupid. And how dare you speak so cruelly about people you do not know. Didn't your mother teach you "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"? I feel sad for those of you saying such things and the kind of lives you must have - lacking happiness and joy...

Susan, KS</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21052</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:07:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21052</guid><dc:creator>Ned, Houston, Texas</dc:creator><description>Also in Houston.  This is why there is the word "accident."  They happen all the time. Everyone's comments are right, up to a certain point.  Let's tell the 3 climbers how dumb they were AFTER WE GET THEM OFF THE MOUNTAIN.  In the mean time, help and love one another, everywhere.  It won't hurt a bit! 
</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21053</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:13:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21053</guid><dc:creator>John Wayne, Universe City, California</dc:creator><description>Someone just sent me this blog.  Is this really up for discussion?  We HAVE to rescue these men. And, YES, every sportsman of any kind needs one of those devices.  And, then the next thing we have to discuss is how much civil liberty we might be giving up to have our footsteps tracked everywhere we go.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21056</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:15:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21056</guid><dc:creator>Ruth, St. Catharines Canada</dc:creator><description>These three men are precious lives we are talking about They are husbands, sons, uncles etc.....If they were our loved ones WHAT WOULD WE WANT DONE TO TRY TO SAVE THEIR LIVES?  I pray and trust that things will go well for them and their families. Let us together pray for the teams involved in their rescue. This would truly be the Christmas spirit.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21059</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:17:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21059</guid><dc:creator>Les Texas, Houston, Texas</dc:creator><description>Marsha in Houston is right. Let's get out there and do something for anyone we know who might need anything.  It's the thing we do best, especially at Christmas.  Our hearts, prayers and thoughts are with those three.  Stay strong!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21061</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:18:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21061</guid><dc:creator>Charles D., Shrewsbury, UK</dc:creator><description>I really hope the climbers are rescued. That hope only helps me feel better about the situation; all the hoping or wishing or praying in the world does nothing to change what happens in the natural world. The only one listening is your own mind. Robert Pirsig said it best: 'When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion'.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21069</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:31:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21069</guid><dc:creator>Scott, Yukon, OK</dc:creator><description>Ed, Shaun, and Jane Doe, what's the most exciting thing you have done lately? Sooner or later in life bad things befall us all whether it's being stuck on a mountain, hit head on the highway or being diagnosed with cancer. Things happen. We spend billions stupidly every year on far worse things than looking for stranded hikers. As for the rescuers out there risking their lives. That's what they train for and I bet each and every one of them loves what they do.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21070</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:36:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21070</guid><dc:creator>Ed Smith, Blooming Grove, Texas</dc:creator><description>Ed from Texas. I pray for these men because every person alive makes mistakes. I also can see it now. When they get on the Opra show it is going to be one heck of a story! I hope they do get back safely so others can learn about their story.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21075</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:47:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21075</guid><dc:creator>Tim, Elk River, MN</dc:creator><description>I have been on many winter expeditions into the Boundary Waters and have been trapped by Blizzards and I know some of the challenges they face. I pray they stay calm and use common sense and wait out the weather so the rescuers can locate them.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21078</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21078</guid><dc:creator>Josephine Wollard, Las Vegas, Nev.</dc:creator><description>To Brian, Kelly and Nikko....you are each part of all of us and our thoughts, and our love go out to you stronger than anything you can imagine...come home.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21084</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:47:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21084</guid><dc:creator>evelyn parsons,springfield illinois</dc:creator><description>I am praying for these men and their families. I know through personal experience that God answers prayer, and many throughout the world are praying for the safe return of these men.God Bless You. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21086</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:12:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21086</guid><dc:creator>M. Wheeler, Radcliff, Ky.</dc:creator><description>I have spent the last forty years responding as a volunteer rescuer. And in all those years I have witnessed a number of tragic decisions. Sometimes it is just bad luck, sometimes stupidity, sometimes too much faith in yourself. I am a firefighter, a deputy sherrif, a diver, caver, and rope technician. Our team responds to environments that have already injured or killed someone. But we go anyway. That's what we do !!!. Why? Because if it was us we would want someone to come after us. On one river trip, we came across a situation where a kayaker was trapped. He was not able to be pulled free in time, but we had our hands on him. He at least knew he was going home. Often we have had to retrieve the unfortunate who have tempted fate and lost. I have on some occasions nearly been one of those myself. Sometimes during a rescue attempt. But if you ask anyone who consistently enters these conditions they will almost unanimously&amp;nbsp;acknowledge one fact. They would rather participate in life to its end, than to live by proxy. I would rather expire living life to its greatest, than to have its promise slowly dwindle and flicker out. Pray for these men. And while you are at it pray that someday you too will have the courage to live as they have so far. To know the sense of what it means to be alive. These brave men did not go into this effort without knowledge and preparation. And only those of you who have never had a wreck, a fire, an injury, or any other kind of accident can hope to criticize these unfortunate souls. And for the rest of us who have dedicated our lives to assisting them, we will lace up our boots and walk out into the night, searching. It is what we do.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21094</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:13:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21094</guid><dc:creator>Chris Eldridge, Harrisburg PA</dc:creator><description>The only other thing I thought of that they could potentially use for finding future missing people is the use of those military style ground sensors.  The military has sensors that can detect a person walking over a pretty good distance.  I remember being surprised by how far but I don't remember... maybe 1000 yards or so.  If so, it might be possible to take some areas that people get frequently lost in and just implant a grid of such sensors in the ground.  Add some computer magic and if anyone turns up missing just ask the computer where EVERYONE is.  Such devices may sound a bit salty but High tech is often surprising in how much more simple it can be.  I remember how an advanced gyro system for missiles was created just using ultra fine crystals that emitted a frequency when they bent.  The system simply listed for that frequency and calculated the exact location.  NO MOVING PARTS and far simpler than a spinning gyro.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21097</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:26:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21097</guid><dc:creator>Cheryel, Portland, OR</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I agree with Tod, is it really necessary to voice all the negative comments? &amp;nbsp;Don't you realize how cold and cruel you are sounding? &amp;nbsp;Did it not enter your minds that the family and friends of these three missing men might read your comments? &amp;nbsp;Ed, from Prineville, that is stupidity.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;My thoughts and prayers are with these men, thier families and the rescue searchers. &amp;nbsp;This is indeed time for a Christmas miracle.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21104</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:20:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21104</guid><dc:creator>Chris Ryan, Mount Vernon  ME.</dc:creator><description>They made the decision to climb, the weather has not been in their favor. They will live with their decision, no matter the outcome. This counrty needs more people like the climbers, and rescue workers. Will ing to help out someone when the chips are down! That is what America is all about. Best to the families, keep the faith, and their are alot of American's praying for their safe return! </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21108</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:00:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21108</guid><dc:creator>ROSANNE ST PETE FLA</dc:creator><description>TOD YOU HAVE A GREAT SPIRIT YES I PRAY EVERY DAY FOR THE SAFE RETURN OF THE CLIMBERS AND UNSELFISH RESCUE TEAM HOW CAN ANY HUMAN WITH ANY FEELING WRITE SUCH INSENSITIVE COMMENTS ALL THE GLORY WILL BE TO GOD AND TRUST HE HAS THE CLIMBERS IN HIS HANDS AND WARM HEART </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21110</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:05:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21110</guid><dc:creator>Scott M.</dc:creator><description>Our hopes and prayers are with the climbers and their families for a speedy rescue.Please support those mountain rescue volunteers who give of their time to help others, for the most part at their own expense.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21111</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:05:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21111</guid><dc:creator>brianna tampa fla</dc:creator><description>Who is in everyone responding here we are talking about lives Gods children loving His creations lets not lose focus and pray the best gift we can give pray for all to return safely to their families that love them. It is noones place NOONE to pass judgement and to do so in a tragic event is heartless.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21114</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:13:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21114</guid><dc:creator>Don Simpson, Phx Az</dc:creator><description>As a young man, I dared a two night “snow camp” adventure at the base of Mt. Hood, I must say, even equipped with “good” gear of the time…it had to be two of the most miserable nights I’ve ever had. The amount of time they have been there, even in shelter….I pray for their strength, it’s easy to lose in that condition. I fear the worst, fuel is heavy and bulky to carry and supplies were at best, “short” for a fast assent. I understand the passion of the quest, both adventurers and rescuers…….time is of the essence. 
Gods speed and grace to you all!
</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21118</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:19:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21118</guid><dc:creator>Charles Norman Wallace</dc:creator><description>I think we all need to remember who is in charge here. God knows exacly what he is doing in good times and bad. If you don't trust in God then call the ACLU and tell them your problems with these hikers. I have hiked all around the Rocky Mountains my whole life and I would trust that if God was in control then my life is in his hands no matter the cost. These men have a great and loving understanding of the Lord and his mercy. We will all see his grace and glory in this matter and these men will live, again in life or with our Father and King.... AMEN Thank you Jesus Christ that these men know you as their Savior and God. Your will be done on this earth as it is in heaven and protect your sons that are lost and need saving. You are the only Savior and you guide our hands so we are rescued from death. All though they walk through the valley, they will not fear no evil. And in your name they are saved.....</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21121</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:42:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21121</guid><dc:creator>Fernando, San Antonio, TX</dc:creator><description>I read all the comments, and cannot help but think that they are so reflective of our society. It helps renew my faith in humanity to see that the majority of people are still basically good and don't point out all the things these guys should/could/might have done, but rather pray for their survival. As in all aspects of life, there are a few cold, heartless, and selfish individuals that have lost part if not all of their humanity, and can only manage to critize. As one person pointed out....I just wonder how they would feel if it was THEIR loved one up there! Thank God that there are brave, giving, and noble souls that risk their lives for strangers, and they would do it even for those of you out there that have hearts and souls made of ice...I pray for those men up there...and for the lost souls that can only think of how "stupid" these SONS, FATHERS, HUSBANDS, BROTHERS, FRIENDS were!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21124</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:23:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21124</guid><dc:creator>Sarah B Orlando Florida</dc:creator><description>There is a Chinese proverb that says 'It is better to live one day as a lion than a thousand days as a lamb'. These men are lions. They deserve our humble admiration and their families need our love and compassion. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21128</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:56:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21128</guid><dc:creator>Gre, Fairifax, VA</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;M.Wheeler, 612PM, Radcliff,KY-- excellent sentiments. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;..... to those naysayers and namecallers--shame on you. &amp;nbsp;For crying out loud the first poster in this thread personally knows one of these climbers. Do you not think the families may read some of your bile and negativism. So shut it down until this concludes or if you have any courage whatsoever, apolgize to the families right here. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;An injury to one of the climbers slowed down their ascent and the weather unpredictably worsened. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;These climbers are in a long line of explorers, testing the limits of the human spirit; &amp;nbsp;the SAR teams are there willingly and are eager to go. This is like a brotherhood. These rescuers are magnificent. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;On a technical point, location is not much of an issue, as it was in the Kim case. &amp;nbsp;The cell phone commo shows SAR where they are within a few hundred yards and IOMAX might even nail it to a few meters. &amp;nbsp;With six SAR teams hopefully heading out tomorrow, they will be found. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Godspeed, Portland Mountain Rescue. Positive energy going out to you grunts. Hang in there fellas, the best of the best are headed your way. &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21133</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:54:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21133</guid><dc:creator>Chris O., Salem, Oregon</dc:creator><description>Risk, it's what drives some people- some live lives thinking of what they should have done while others say WOW- that was incredible! Life is no joke, NO ONE should judge anyone for what they do or don't do! As a former "Adrenalin Junky"- I am at a point in my life where I miss it and plan on doing it again! It's a passion..it's in the blood..it drives many. Let them do it! Don't condemn anyone for it. As we all live in a FREE Country- your even lucky to be able to write on a computer like you are. Travel overseas and see how others live...it'll make you appreciate everything here more! To all the rescuers, climbers and families on this mountain- my thoughts, prayers and "adrenalin" are with you! If you need anyone in the future to climb with....call me...I'll do anything for a fellow brother! My family and friends are praying for a safe outcome and keep doing what each of you love doing...James, Brian and Jerry are! GOD BLESS YOU GUYS AND SEE YOU SOON!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21137</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:57:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21137</guid><dc:creator>Susan, Coquille, Oregon</dc:creator><description>We will only approve comments that are directly related to the blog, use appropriate language and are not attacking the comments of others. This is printed at the end of all these messages. So who's monitoring this?? Not doing too good a job. I hope these men are luckier than most. I am sorry that their families have to read some of these&amp;nbsp;... messages. And they called these men stupid??? As far as who is going to pay for it. Heaven forbid anyone help a fellow man. Maybe a person should have to pay to write something on a site such as this, it might have helped the family or rescuers out if each person sent in $5.00. Would you pay to make a nasty comment? Some people might be STUPID enough to. Talk about kicking someone when their down.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21138</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:08:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21138</guid><dc:creator>Michael Powell</dc:creator><description>Ive been on several mountains throughout the U.S. and most are of easy use,but the cascades are the most beautiful and also the most dangerous Ive ever seen.You are basically on your own and what moves you make at what time defines success.The weather can change at a moments notice and severly test your heart and ability to keep warm.Those who thrill seek or have winter hiking in their blood,accept the fact that they may become victim to their own mistakes or obstacles.Race drivers,astronauts ect the list goes on and all are willing to help if needed in crisis.Payment never comes into mind because that would be putting a price on a human being, which is unacceptable in our nation at least.I hope the best for those that go throughout those mountains and wish them safety as well as warmth because most are town and city dwellers that are not used to the cascades wild .Take a lesson from the wildlife there,even most shutdown for the winter.You boys need to come home.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21158</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:22:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21158</guid><dc:creator>John Godino Portland OR</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;There will much discussion about the costs of this rescue. Here's some research about rescue costs from a detailed 2005 study by The American Alpine Club.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;The title is: "Climbing Rescues in America: Reality Does Not Support High-Risk, High-Cost Perception". &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;For you speed readers there is a nice summary on page 1, which is too long to paste here. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;If you are thinking anything along the lines of "those crazy climbers, using my taxpayers $$$ to get rescued . . ." please take a few minutes to read the facts. (Any reporters who are reading this, please have a look as well. =^) &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Link: &lt;BR&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.americanalpineclub.org/pdfs/MRreal.pdf" target=_new rel=nofollow&gt;http://www.americanalpineclub.org/pdfs/MRreal.pdf&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;My best warm thoughts to our climber compadres who are hanging tight right now. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I am a Portland climber who has been up the routes these guys apparently took, and can say their previous experience makes them well qualified for this winter climb. &amp;nbsp;Also, winter is typically the safest time for the Mt. Hood North Face routes, as rockfall is minimized in this season.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21162</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:35:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21162</guid><dc:creator>Jane D. Mountnview, CA</dc:creator><description>did we do all we could for the kim family? I don't remember reading about all this high tech effort being employed for them. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21164</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:43:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21164</guid><dc:creator>Umesh Rana</dc:creator><description>Our thoughts and prayers are with the missing and their families. I pray they find them and  am sure they will</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21170</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:49:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21170</guid><dc:creator>Bob, Cincinnati, Ohio</dc:creator><description>I hope the advanced technology relied upon by the above mentioned companies can be better put to use atop "any" mountain here in the USA and elsewhere around the world to assist emergency personnel with the search efforts and the people stranded in adverse conditions (e.g. mountains, hurricane devastated islands in the Caribbean, Hawaiian Islands, dense forested areas and national parks, etc.) for legitimate emergency purposes.  The potential for use and abuse of such technology could lead to the wrong kind of results, so proper regulatory oversight by the federal government (e.g. US Congress, FCC, ...) should be a high priority for the next US Congress in January 2007.  Also, an emergency exit route should be in place before any mountaineer ascends a mountain to be sure everyone involved can be safe. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21171</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:53:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21171</guid><dc:creator>MATTHEW SCHLABACH  WAKARUSA, IN</dc:creator><description>AS WE APPROACH THIS TIME OF YEAR TO CELEBRATE THE COMING OF THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD,PLEASE PAUSE AND SEND A PRAYER TO GOD FOR EACH OF THESE DEAR BROTHERS.PRAY FOR WISDOM FOR THE SEARCHERS TO LOCATE THESE THREE WONDERFUL MEN.DONT PASS JUDGMENT AS THERE IS NO ONE WHO READS THIS WHO KNOWS THE FUTURE,BUT PRAISE GODS NAME HE DOES HOLD THE FUTURE.GODSPEED TO EACH SEARCHER AND THEIR FAMILIES.I AM A FIREFIGHTER AND HAVE TAKEN THE "HEAT" BUT THAT IS MY CALLING.MAY THE WEATER BE CALM,FAKILIES WE LOVE AND PRAY FOR YOU </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21174</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:01:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21174</guid><dc:creator>Bob, Colorado Springs, Colorado</dc:creator><description>I pray that these men will return safely. However, this is an excellent case where a satellite phone or Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB) could have pinpointed the position of these men instantly. This is obviously not only for the benefit of those needing rescue, but for the recue workers that could locate them precisely and immediately reducing their risk. These units can be rented.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21176</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:21:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21176</guid><dc:creator>Lee and Donna Carlson, Hermsiton, OR</dc:creator><description>We pray for the climbers safe return and to all of the rescue and search teams.  "git 'er done!" and get home safely.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21183</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:11:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21183</guid><dc:creator>Jane, Portland, OR</dc:creator><description>The facts are that the three men went up Mt. Hood at a very risky time of year and did not carry transponders, which as other posters have pointed out, can be rented from various places near Mt. Hood. I don't believe the posters here (mostly from Oregon and Washington, I note) are heartless with their comments that note the risks.  I have two sons fond of extreme mountain sports and I admonish them all too much about using their heads and having the right equipment.  If this were to happen to them, I would do as these climbers' families have done and I, too, would feel a great deal of anguish.  But, I also would recognize that they engaged in very risky behavior because that is how they wanted to live their lives.    </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21184</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:24:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21184</guid><dc:creator>jill doe</dc:creator><description>I believe these men took all the precautions that anyone with mountain experience are familiar with.  But, accidents do happen, as it appears in this case. No matter how much knowledge,technology and high tech gear we have available to us we must remember that we cannot always control our human destiny, and that this in fact is what draws so many people into the wilds of nature. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21187</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:13:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21187</guid><dc:creator>Kent Brooten, Kent, WA</dc:creator><description>Perhaps we can learn something from this.  I am not an "experienced" climber, but I am competent.  I've climbed all 19 major volcanoes in the Cascades.  Mt. Hood 6 or 8 times, Mr. Rainier 36 times.  I always wear a beacon if there is any chance of avalanche, and, I KNOW how to use it as does everyone in my group.  I have navigated both up and down mountains in complete whiteouts, horizontal blowing snow, zero visibility, 80 mph winds.  I've climbed a couple of routes on Hood, but I would be afraid to attempt the north side in the middle of the winter, with storms moving in as my first attempt on Mt. Hood.  As many of the comments above indicate, I too feel bad for the 3 men, their families and all the rescuers who are going up in this.  I hope I never need them, I'm glad they're there. All climbers can learn from this.  As Ed Viesturs says in his most recent book: "Reaching the summit is optional, getting down in mandatory".</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21189</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:47:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21189</guid><dc:creator>Mark - Atlanta, GA</dc:creator><description>PERHAPS PEOPLE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON THE IMMEDIATE OBJECTIVE OF FINDING THESE MEN.  Right now...nothing else matters.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21191</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:01:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21191</guid><dc:creator>George Thomas</dc:creator><description>Seriously, prayer does not work. Any logical thinking person knows that any God who needs to be asked to help someone would be a worthless God. 
Who is really doing the work here? God or the helicopters, planes and people looking for them? Also, the Cell companies and technology companies pinging the cell phones. Give me a break, ig God gave a darn the weather would clear and warm up. People are so stupid!</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21207</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:37:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21207</guid><dc:creator>jeff   medford,or</dc:creator><description>our greatest weapon is prayer  remeber who we are and whoes we are whether you believe or not in JESUS CHRIST 
He has everything in His hands. please pray for these chldren of GOD  </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21208</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:46:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21208</guid><dc:creator>Bill Williams--hondo texas</dc:creator><description>Its called carelessness.  would you paddle a kayak to a distant island without a life preserver?  I would not climb a mountain without a signaling device of some sort.  preferably an electronic pinging device which can be bought or rented for a small fee. I pray for their safe return and admire those who are risking their lives to find them.  Maybe this incident will promote laws requiring risktakers to prepare for the worst and maybe even require them to purchase insurance to pay for their rescue in an event such as we are witnessing.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21214</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:29:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21214</guid><dc:creator>hal  Modesto, Ca</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;I've watched documentaries enough about climbing to know that even on the clearest of days, the weather at high altitudes can change without warning, even though local weather foercasts say otherwise. Local weather is just that, they don't (and cannot) predict what the weather is goung to be like at such altitudes. YES, they could and probably should have taken some type of personal transponder to aid in their search in this circumstance, but they did not, their choice. I only hope they are alive and are found quickly. I myself have been fascinated by the heights these people are willing to go and the thrill they feel by accomplishing a goal such as climbing something bigger than they are. As a young man, I once climbed a somewhat mountain at one of our national forests, and was thrilled that I took the route I did and made it up. (even though there was a regular trail we could have taken). &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It was a blast, it was thrilling, exillerating, and on top of it all,....WOW, the view. But, if anything would have happened, I would have hoped that someone would have had the heart to come looking, anyone who doesn't hope for this MUST be lost in their own mind. So far as the cost, I would pay whatever I had to to find a loved one or friend who took on such a challenge. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;for Ed in prineville. &amp;nbsp;Think you got slapped around enough???? &amp;nbsp;Think before you speak, the things you say can seriously reflect against you, or for you, if said with a little wisdom. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To Nate in Portland, people are who they are, whether they are climbers, rescuers, police, fire/rescue, dogcatcher, racecar driver or whomever or whatever their walk in life is. THIS is the life they have chosen. THIS is what the individual is about. If we didn't have thrill seekers, we would all be living in some little bubble somewhere hoping that no-one would bump into us for fear of breaking that bubble and being unable to live without it. We all take chances is life, sometimes,.... the choice isn't the best one, but, well it's the one we make. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We all wwant out loved ones to come home to us, even if it is to say goodbye, but my hopes and prayers are to the families and friends of the climbers and their resucers. &amp;nbsp;Be safe guys, and be careful&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21254</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:39:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21254</guid><dc:creator>Micheline Seguin, Kingston, Canada</dc:creator><description>Those three beautiful human beings will be rescued if it is God's will....there is always a reason for these tragedies which are in our CREATOR'S strong hands. Lets not stop praying ....
Micheline,  Kingston, Ont Canada</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21262</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:06:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21262</guid><dc:creator>Jean Turner, Vancouver, Wa,</dc:creator><description>All you folks who say "It's in their blood", etc., then they need to have a rescue team, in the base camp parking lot, all geared up and ready to roll WHEN they are paged or beeped or whatever, AND PAID FOR BY THE "R&amp;amp;R" HIKERS. I was upset that my tax dollars were going to pay for [stranded climbers], then I found out it is service people and VOLUNTEERS. NOW I'M REALLY ANGRY!!! JEAN,VANCOUVER, WA. (Across "The River")</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21263</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:21:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21263</guid><dc:creator>Charles Brown, Big Bear Lake, CA</dc:creator><description>If GOD hadn't spent so little time (7 days) in creating this mountain maybe he would have had time to think about paving a road to the top of it. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21272</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:03:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21272</guid><dc:creator>John Makuta, Hazleton, Pa</dc:creator><description>Men (and women) will always push the outside of the envelope. &amp;nbsp; I'm sure, when these three men started their climb, they felt they had taken all necessary precautions.&lt;BR&gt; Never did they dream they'd be stranded.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;God be with them...&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;As for the brave men and women who put their lives on the line to rescue the lost climbers, there is a special place in heaven for them. &amp;nbsp; I pray none of the rescuers are injured.</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21286</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:30:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21286</guid><dc:creator>Alan Boyle</dc:creator><description>&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Susan in Coquille, Ore., brings up a good point. I'm the one who approves the comments here, and it is something of a judgment call in terms of doing those approvals. Strictly speaking, I shouldn't have approved Susan's message because it's attacking the comments of others. And these rules would not per se preclude attacking the actions of the stranded climbers (or, for that matter, President Bush). Nevertheless, there are a number of comments that I don't approve, because of the appropriateness question. For the same reason, I also edit out some words in comments that in the end I do approve, marking the excision with [...]. Hint: Calling other people idiots, morons, pinheads or peabrains won't help get comments approved. Maybe I'll have to add "stupid" to the list.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style='clear:both;'&gt;Going forward, in your comments, please address the information, not the person - and do have a heart for those folks on the mountain.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21300</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:15:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21300</guid><dc:creator>Lisa,   Michigan</dc:creator><description>My heart goes out to families. What a great loss, and at Christmas time. Please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you. </description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21367</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:23:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21367</guid><dc:creator>Faith Webster,Mount Vernon NY</dc:creator><description>Not a climber or hiker but very concerned. Very sad to hear not that there are only two climbers possibly alive at this point. I don't fault or blame anyone doing such things. I see the negative comments from people on the oustside looking in and people don't give these people a second thought. I am sure they are trying to ruffle feathers saying negative comments because they can hide behind a screen name. I pray and hope they find the two remaining climbers. I hope that they do find them. [...]</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#21481</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:57:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:21481</guid><dc:creator>Hiram J. Kaukani, III....HILO,HAWAII</dc:creator><description>As i sit here..awed by this ordeal, i hope that they are found. I have never lost someone to any tragic or natural disasters, but the hurt and unanswered questions are unimaginable. One i hope i dont have the oppurtunity to discover. But i do realize this..That the man on the news is my uncle. An uncle that i have never sat down with, or enjoyed a conversation with, is there putting his own life on the line for three climbers. Makes me proud to know that he belongs to our family, our "ohana". I could try to dig through families phonebooks to track down uncle Joe, but not wanting to interfere or throw him off track by an unexpected visit or phone call. It feels like anything could happen, but just in case...Uncle Joe if youre reading this I pray for you and for those involved in this rescue. Even if i dont get the chance to talk to Aunt Charmaine and the girls, just know we are praying for you all the way from Hawaii. God bless and much aloha from our ohana...</description></item><item><title>High tech to the rescue</title><link>http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/12/14/20506.aspx#114705</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:11:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:114705</guid><dc:creator>john doe</dc:creator><description>WHAT A PLANET YOU STICK ME ON,OBSERVATION DONE,BUT It's OKAY I THINK I'll stick this one out.Dont get mad but i love it when you make mistakes.1254 till next tme</description></item></channel></rss>