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steve smyth — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:04:06 GMT

Superimpose one of Gerard O'Neills space station designs...the ones with a central cylinder, spokes, and revolving 'wheel'...tip it just right, and it's just like the image seen.
Maybe the whole 'galaxy' is actually a spacefaring vehicle from some distant...way distant...realm.
O'Neill was pretty far out there.
Maybe he saw one in his dream/travels and never realized he was copying an existing...obviously functional vessel.
do...do...doo...do
It really does resemble the concept stations from O'Neill's visions...squint if ya hafta...

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:14:26 GMT

Black Holes are super impressive and I enjoy reading great articles like this about them. Thanks Alan! I can't wait for new black hole data to come out.

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Aegliss, Shelbyville, TN — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:01 GMT

To me, it looks like there is a lot of light escaping the hole. It actually looks like the "black" hole IS the source of the light. Why do black holes appear so bright, Alan?

[ALAN ADDS: It's the energy from the stuff being torn apart as it circles the black hole itself. The jets of accelerated particles are directed up and down along the poles by the magnetic field surrounding the black hole. So the photons that are inside the black hole's event horizon can't make it out, but the photons given off by the jets outside the black hole are what's behind the strong emissions.]

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Jerry Zentz, Yakima, Wa. — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:38:48 GMT

I always thought that a black holes gravity was so stong nothing could escape it. Yet, "The electrons emanating from Centaurus A are traveling at half the speed of light". I am missing something, what is it?
Impressive pictures.

[ALAN ADDS: Yes, I should have been a little more precise. The electrons are being accelerated by the magnetic field *around* the black hole. They're not actually escaping the black hole itself, they're emanating from the region surrounding the black hole as other material is falling past the event horizon.]

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Frank G. — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:56:10 GMT

I have often noticed that stellar powerhouses that have high mass and rotational aspects to them are stiking similar in appearance and 'function' as that of a Nikola Tesla disc engine / pump. Given the enormous power that is evident in nature for these 'constructs', are we missing something by not intensely investigationg Tesla's insights? Nature is pointing the way in an obvious manner to so many things - shouldn't we be looking closer and with open and fresh perspectives?

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Robert Clauss, Fort Bragg, California — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:10:58 GMT

Hello, I have a question about the dipole anisotropy observed in the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB). I understand a V/C frequency shift (Doppler) caused by the motion of our earth and solar system with respect to other sources of radiation, including the CMB. What causes the "V/C" apparent temperature shift?

Thanks, Bob

[ALAN ADDS: Sorry, Bob, I think this is a little out of my depth ... but if there is anisotropy in the temperature readings, I suppose it would be because the wavelengths for the thermal infrared wavelengths are being redshifted or blueshifted along with the microwaves. What I'm not sure of is whether you can perceive a Doppler effect in that way with respect to the cosmic microwave background. Maybe clearer heads than mine can add some informed perspective rather than my jibber-jabber.]

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Thomas Ashby, Calgary — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:33:01 GMT

Oh me gosh, that is the finest representation of the reality of a black hole at the center of a galaxy that must be available. It fits so well and exact with theoretical views.

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lauren , london , — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:04:44 GMT

oh my god i never seen anything like this

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Daniel, Toronto, OH — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:05:53 GMT

Sorry, this might not be the place for it, but I have to ask.
If nothing can escape a black hole, not even light, then why do scientist think gravity waves will escape unless they already know that gravity waves travel faster than light?

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Erick, Bronx NY — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:29:39 GMT

Fantastic article. My inner nerd is quite pleased.

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mark, houston, tx — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:34:40 GMT

this is what happens when democrats and republicans collide.

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NA BC Canada — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:37:21 GMT

A spaceship with a magnetic shield could magnetically funnel and trap antimatter , potentially storing huge amounts of energy from such natural phenomena.

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Steve Takacs — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:47:02 GMT

I keep reading about the big bang and the expanding universe. [...] I always thought that anything had to be inside of something else. So I would like to know what the universe is inside of.

[ALAN ADDS: Great question ... here's an answer from physicists Michio Kaku:]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077398/

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Chris Rogers, Wakeman OH. — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:40:02 GMT

This is exactally why i love astronomy and astrophysics. the oppertunity to witness and study something as extraordinary and breathtaking as this!!
I can only hope to aspire to this level of greatness in my life time.

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danielle owens,cicero, nj — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:42:50 GMT

this is awesome and it so looks like an explosion. cooooooooollllllll!!!!!!!!!!

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Alexander Guerrieri Brooklyn York — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:50:41 GMT

We don't know factuly. God -possibility.Money to be spent? On this ? You all can answer is expensive. Hope for best discoveries and uses.

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Mike Hukabee — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:52:55 GMT

um how about scientist findout whats on the other side of this black hole,im slightly curious could be a whole new galaxy

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Mark, Houston — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:54:56 GMT

This picture is great, its another piece of information during the information age, now my question is " what happens to the Earth & the other planets when we pay through the galactic plan in 2012? The closest point the earth will ever be to the massive black hole in in solar system.

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Harvey Doyle, Tyner, Ky — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:56:03 GMT

I heard that we could have a near miss of an asteroid in 2023? Is that true how will that affect the earth etc. Thanks
Harvey

[ALAN ADDS: Hi, Harvey, from time to time I've written about the asteroid Apophis (which is due to approach Earth in 2029 and just might be in a position for collision in 2037, but probably not). Here's a story I did a couple of years ago.]

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/16/58617.aspx

[The risk of collision is still judged at around 1 in 43,000, but that's likely to go down once more observations are made. Another asteroid, known as 2007 VK184, is thought to have a 1-in-3000 chance of hitting Earth sometime after 2048. This page lays it all out for you:]

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

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Alexander Guerrieri Brooklyn New York — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:59:19 GMT

Science of this nature is quite possible,God- religion quite possible ,the financial cost is high and hope for discoveries that are useful and practical. But today are economy is not bountyful,and studies go accoring to the budget and economy and what there is a need for. Others may argue that this is a waste ,it can go both ways.

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Brian Gilbert valley wash — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:59:43 GMT

these images reflct in thought the real perspective of the incredible power of the black hole yet reveale no inturpatation of begining or end

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Glen,Jamestown,TN — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:08:10 GMT

I am glad I saw this. I do not really know alot about these.

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Hank Freeman - Dacula GA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:11:54 GMT

Not colliding Democrats and Republicans... Colliding ULL (Ultra Left Liberals) and URBTC (Ultra Righ Bible Thumping Conservatives) doing something I am not sure what though.

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Courtney Cary,NC — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:13:58 GMT

this is awesome i didnt even know that could happen

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noel, bersford, SD — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:14:49 GMT

we're all ganna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg.
:(

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Janet Pina, Lynwood, Ca — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:17:17 GMT

Is so amazing! How life out of earth could be. This activities that is happening in are galaxy, are the best thing ever! I love, the impact, color, and view of the black hole. :)( WOW )

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Rick Gray,Banning Calif — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:20:57 GMT

I Love That Stuff Space,Astronomy,Astrophysics..etc...

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Jim, Portland OR — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:23:39 GMT

I thought it was well established that only electric currents forms magnetic fields. But there is no mention of electric currents at all in the discussion.

Why is that?

[ALAN ADDS: In the post I do refer to electrons being accelerated in the jets blowing away from the black hole, so I suppose you could consider that an electrical current. Here's more about the role that magnetic fields play in black holes:]

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060621_bhole_magnetic.html

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Maria, Stockton, CA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:46 GMT

Terrifying yet fascinating.

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Ann Hamilton — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:33:14 GMT

When I see things like this, I can not help but believe in The Greatness of God!

[ALAN ADDS: I think that's a great sentiment! Often, when people post such comments on this blog, they get responses criticizing religious thinking. I'd like to lower the temperature on that. You're welcome to give praise to the Flying Spaghetti Monster or talk about how this reveals the beauty of plain old nature sans the supernatural ... or how the emission pattern just happens to conforms to our hard-wired circuitry for defining "beauty." But I'd like to get away from a believer-vs.-skeptic debate every time someone invokes a deity.]

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Ralph Godwin, Chico, CA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:37:09 GMT

We also may be observing the results of a phenomena I postulated several years ago, a hyper-massive black hole, one whose collective center of mass may be asymmetric or unbalanced.

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GLORIA GAYTAN EAGLE PASS, TEXAS — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:40:48 GMT

Oh my gosh this something to think about, are we near the end? or what. so much energy either escaping or sucking make you think that is something really big is happening there.

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Joe Galloway, San Francisco, CA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:48:01 GMT

I thought nothing can escape a black hole??? If so, then there's maybe an eye like the center of a hurricane. How big do black holes get before this phenomenon happens? Can they explode? Interesting...

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Luella Stelck, Deary, Idaho — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:52:07 GMT

How can you tell the radio emissions from jets of accelerated particles are shooting north and south from the center? How is the north and south on a black hole determined?

[ALAN ADDS: For a galaxy I suppose it's a bit arbitrary ... you'd look at the orientation of the object in the sky and translate it to celestial north (pointing toward Polaris, for example) and south, translated to whichever celestial pole is closer.]

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jim, Portland, OR — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:08:29 GMT

Alan,
Thank you for the link, but it too fails to mention that electrical current is the only known causation of magnetic fields. I understand this has been repeatedly shown by experiment and is constrained by Maxwell's Equations.

Electric currents cause magnetic fields is the important physical law, not the other way round, as your reference suggests.

So, I'm left perplexed that a specific mention of electric currents wasn't made when referring to the magnetic fields of the jets in this image.

Thanks, again.

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baliey denver colorado — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:09:44 GMT

we are goning to die if it gets bigger yall know

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Frank Hintz — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:09:57 GMT

I read an article from some High School Kid in Florence Alabama, about his Moth theory that has everyone amazed and confused. Can anyone shed any light on this mind warping paper

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ED STRAKER — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:10:40 GMT

[ALAN ADDS: Great question ... here's an answer from physicists Michio Kaku:]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077398/
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Michio Kaku's explanation is not revealing and very inadequate based on the intellegence level of Americans. In fact there was never a big bang because the evidence is again using the size of an expanding wave too large using the Earth's point of view as a focal point. This assumes there was a 3-dimensional bang, when in fact Kaku is referring to the reflection of the 4th dimension. This contradicts his answer.

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Juanita Waites Grand Bay Alabama — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:15:59 GMT

Wow!!!!Just too beautiful I love it, do you think this is how it all begain? Please tell me is this how life started? I just have to say God could only do this, he knows how to create beauty. I am so thankful to see his work in progress. Thanks you blessed smart people for sharing.

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gac, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:19:09 GMT

"North" and "south" are arbitrary, but I think the convention is to apply the "right-hand rule." Curl the fingers of your right hand in the direction the object is rotating. Your thumb points to north.

Now, here's the really interesting question: How is 0 degrees longitude determined?

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steve smyth — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:20:38 GMT

Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree with Luella Stelck...the arbtrariness Alan mentions has always bothered me...the biggest problem in sharing this info is now, and has always been, the language.
North/South, in/out, up/down...not to mention the 'time' factor...none of these things even exist outside the mind of man...
Physics cannot explain what we do not first understand...no matter how hard one tries...unless one uses vernacular to try clarifying...ie North/South...the language does not translate into conversational layman's terms.
It's truly amazing, though...great try, Alan.
Don'tcha think?

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emily beers, woodinvill Wash — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:30:19 GMT

OMG that picture is so cool its like mental in some way like somthimg just died... but for the better good its awsome!!!

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picka, dont ,worry — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:30:57 GMT

wowwwwwwww,.
can we die though ?

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Deb Ballard Harrisburg, Pa. — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:43:47 GMT

This is so awesome................
Please keep them comming.

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desi, phoenix, AZ — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:46:37 GMT

wow!
this is really stunning!
this makes me think, and lots of questions run through my mind!
:D

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Byron Johnson, Denver, CO — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:47:29 GMT

Super massive objects that are light years across truly never "explode" do they? That would mean the particles in the explosion would travel faster than the speed of light. Wouldn't you say that they are "expanding" instead of "exploding?"

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Lynne,Oxon Hill, MD — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:48:38 GMT

WOW!!! This is a very fascinating article it makes me want to learn more about the galaxy.

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Leslie Levy, Alhambra, Ca. — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:48:47 GMT

If this light show takes 13 million light years to reach us, is the sucking and spewing phenomena around this black hole still going on today or have things settled down by now? --- Uhh!!!
How great is consciousness!!!
What tiny specks and sparks of energetic protoplasm We are!!!
The mystery is very Great!!!

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Matthew Carter, Lizella Georgia — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:50:17 GMT

The Black Hole really is very Cool i mean its like a portal to a whole 'nother world out there some where thats what i think.

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Katt B., P.V., Arizona — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:54:08 GMT

WOW! Those are come amazing pic.s So that ons pitcure had peices of real equipment sent out into space? That is so amazing!

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robert p. loesch — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:02:02 GMT

This is what this Monster looked like 13 million
years ago. I wonder what it looks like today?

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Dylan, Lakeville, Minnesota — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:06:59 GMT

What might happen if the astroid Apophis, or 2007 VK184 hit the earth? The earth's atmosphere dose deteriorate most of the artroid correct, or could they potentially be a threat?

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Dan Frycklund — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:07:28 GMT

Afganistan, Wall Street, a bad economy, the list goes on. Too many narrow minded people, consumed by the tick and tock of living, won't take time or the opportunity to marvel at this picture. I grinned ear to ear looking at it. I will really enjoy visiting there when I must give up this tired bag of meat.

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Think — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:07:54 GMT

Sceintists can't work out the size of what's outside the universe, because you have to keep putting it into another universe. It's eternal it's God that's why you can't measure it!!!!!!

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paul b s. beloit il — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:09:22 GMT

with the sheer size of the universe its hard to believe we're the only planet with life.do you think we'll ever know in our lifetimes?

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Tim Rommes, Washington, UT — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:10:30 GMT

Luella Stelck (1/29, 1752) wrote, "How is the north and south on a black hole determined?"
Excellent question. North and south are defined by rotation. On our planet if you view the planet from a spot on the rotational axis outside the planet and the planet rotates in a CCW direction you are above the north pole. Same with the sun and solar system. I'm not sure if that holds for all planets and it doesn't hold for all celestial bodies. I don't know how it's defined for black holes. You might wiki it. Not of any help if you plan on going out and classifying black holes, but the short answer is north and south are defined by rotation.

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irma Jamestown NY — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:23:21 GMT

thank you for sharing :>

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Amanda M, Alberta, Canada — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:25:21 GMT

If the earth got sucked in, would we be able to still live on earth???

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Angel Rettig, Yakima, Washington — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:28:04 GMT

Wow, that is so fasinating! What a beautyful universe we amerge in, exist in. Life is so powerful to the human eye! Thank you for the photos.

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Krista Ramon — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:30:24 GMT

After reading all the messages and Alan's responses to questions, there is nothing more I really need to add, except keep on putting these articles on the internet.

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Sabrina Provo Utah — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:37:41 GMT

That was so amaizing!!!

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Blair Crowley, Manchester, Tennessee — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:39:16 GMT

I have always wondered how exactly something like this takes place. It is quite beautiful, I will have to look deeper into these kinds of things now.
WOW.

But I do have one question, if something like this "Black Hole" came closer what exactly do you speculate would happen to our solar system?

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Dave — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:42:28 GMT

Can't anybody say, "Wow, this is cool, wonder how long it's been going on?, before we had the tech that we do.

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Carole Perkins, Leroy, MN — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:48:07 GMT

This is awesome, another picture of the grandeur of creation, God is in control. Thank you, for posting these images for all to see.

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Tammi Drahiem Saint Paul, Minnesota — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:48:47 GMT

Just when you think you know it all about everything, an image like this is super fasinating to everyone! You may think we're the #1 thing on this planet, but there's so much out there we can all learn about-It blows my mind to see such beautiful images, & hope the space program is never compromised at all...

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Tammi Drahiem Saint Paul, Minnesota (USA) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:51:52 GMT

You may/may not believe in a creator, but, just look what's out there, & tell me that there's nothing out there. I call it "space magic." You think you've seen all there's to see out there, but it's wrong...Just thinking of all the stuff out there, & things just waiting to happen out tehre, well...it is a dreamers paradise out there. Thank God for science fiction! :-)

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John New Braunfels, Texas — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:52:18 GMT

If black holes are caused by collapsing stars and no known force can stop the collapse then aren't all black holes in space still actively collapsing?

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Sherri, Pittsburgh — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:56:12 GMT

This is just amazing! Thank you, Alan Boyle! I've always loved astronomy...and I really wish I had an aptitude for physics and math to the degree necessary for a career in astrophysics. This is awesome!

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BlAcK hOlE lUvEr — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:05:46 GMT

wow. nature is amazing, right? cool. hey i heard that the world is going to end in 2012. does anybody here believe that? does anyone have any evidence that i can share?

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Deb Morgan, Rescue, CA — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:09:12 GMT

Thank you, Tim Rommes. You have just led this 52-year-old woman to an epiphany regarding direction and rotation in space. Be proud, Tim; many have tried and failed where you have succeeded!

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Terry Brown, Sioux Falls, South Dakota — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:14:29 GMT

Are you taking questions on the supposed event of December 21, 2012. The Internet is plugged with doomsday fears about the alignment of the Sun and the relationship to the Mayan calander. Do you think there is any reason for concern?

[ALAN ADDS: No, I don't see any reason for concern. This is similar to the hype that preceded the Year 2000 turnover and 2001 turnover, as well as the Grand Alignment of May 2000. After the 13th cycle of the long Mayan calendar, you just begin again with the 14th cycle. Here's a debunking post recommended by Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy fame:]

http://www.giagia.co.uk/2008/01/23/apocalympics-2012/

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shel.cam ,Elmwoodpark NJ — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:15:09 GMT

This is very wonderful to look at its really a beauty
this is indeed the creation of our lord and savior Jesus christ by the Holy Spirit and the Father. Man seeks to know about the Lord`s creation but the
Lord already know what he has created. [...]
Love you all

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David, Fort Lauderdale FL — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:23:04 GMT

TOTALLY amazing! WOW! In spite of ALL the problems here on Planet Earth; there so much MORE beyond "us". WE should keep this in mind.

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mckayla,westerville,oh — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:27:28 GMT

impressive and you only get to this almost in just one lifetime.

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thomas ashby, calgary — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:28:10 GMT

what is really something is the dimension of the apparent bow shock in the lower right portion of the pic as all that accelerated matter slams into extra-galactic gas.

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R.M.M.Manimuthu Klang,Malaysia — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:32:23 GMT

A great picture with a lots more info although I know little about them. Thank you for sharing your finding works with us and may continious good luck be with your team Alan.

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john unterzuber gautier ms — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:33:42 GMT

um when it says charged particle generator what does it mean... speaking from a 17 year old's point of view, and not a very sound one, it sounds like if you were to create a smaller version of a black hole inside a satellite we could charge the particles into a beam... this is probably not what it means, so clarify if you can

[ALAN ADDS: Stars are magnetically powerful dynamos, as are black holes. When material falls into the black hole, it is drawn in among the magnetic lines of force ... whipping up particles to speeds approaching the speed of light. The magnetic lines channel all that energy outward. It would be pretty hard to duplicate that kind of dynamo artificially inside a satellite ... but if you could, it might be possible to channel the energy just as a black hole does. That might make something like a death ray possible. I hope you're not planning on following the career track for an evil genius. ;-) All the best to you!]

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mickey crutchfield myrtle MISSISSIPPI — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:40:05 GMT

The bible says in the last days there would be signs in the sky and earthquakes and trouble time we are there now if you have now been born again with JESUS Christ as your LORD it time now
thanking about it thank you for this news MICKEY

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lewis, cardiff, uk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:04:32 GMT

space is very interesting. i didn't know a black hole could do that...i would love to go to space and see all the amazing things out there. Hopfully we will have the technology to go beyond our solar system and see more cool things like that.

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RODIAN TAYLORS S.C. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:05:47 GMT

I LOVE HOW THE STARS LOOK I HAVE BEEN WONDERING SEENS JAN THE 6 ABOUT THE MOON AND THE STAR THAT WERE CLOSE TOGETHER WHY WHRE THEY TOGETHER? BUT IF ANYONE HAS THE ANSWER PLEASE SEAD ME A MESSAGE I WILL LOVE TO KNOW AND I HOPE U HAVE MORE THINGS ABOUT THE STARS AND PLANETS IT WILL BE GREAT

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Jim,Buckley, WA — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:11:13 GMT

Make-it-so number-one.....

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Kyla Gross. Los Angelos California — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:11:46 GMT

God is truly amazing for creating such a wonderful universe!!! :)

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Gene — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:12:02 GMT

What will happen when the super collider is cranked up? How will that mass affect other masses in this cosmos?

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Blinky Kink, Jay, Maine — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:12:55 GMT

huhhuh it like a kitten with a ball of yarn...or a puppy with a bone, or a goat with horns...

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Joel Mwaura, Hamilton, Bermuda — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:27:36 GMT

Great image of the marvels of space that our earth forms a tiny tiny spec of!A lot seems to be out there as we are busy fighting one another on the beautiful little mother earth! Send more pics as they become available! Just curious too...the distance between us and the galaxy means this event happened a long time ago?....?....

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jane doe — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:36:35 GMT

I think it's totally unfair how the government won't share what is really going on with our planet, including the unwanted visitors that visit our planet from time to time. first of all as human were all guaranteed to die someday, why not tell the people what's going on before someone else does !

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Jeriel — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:37:26 GMT

This is so Impressive

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Dr. ECD, mendota, ill. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:40:30 GMT

Can any body see the analogy to the chemistry bonds in between atoms. Just on enormous scales. It is very interesting how life is, it is a lot of repeated concepts small or large.

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Teresa W, Midland, Texas — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:41:50 GMT

What a fantastic age we live in! What a breath-taking view of such an extraordinary sight. Thanks for the pictures!

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Bill, Oxnard California — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:41:50 GMT

image of Centaurus A shows lobes and jets emanating from the galaxy's central black hole. Since these jets seem to travel away from the galaxy central core they must be traveling at the speed of light. High energy particles possible photons or gamma rays. We should all be glad our galaxy only has a small black hole 4 million suns. We would all be toast right now if we lived there.

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JOY H., PHX,.AZ. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:44:46 GMT

FASCINATING AND BEAUTIFUL :]

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Denver Barrett — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:52:41 GMT

God can come to you through his son Jesus and show you all his greatness. space is beautiful and all the stars have names as the bible has told us. He also said his way are above are ways as the heavens are above the earth, I really enjoy the pic.s

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kevin castillo,santo domingo,dominican republic — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:59:28 GMT

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo maybe the world can end,wao i want to go to space

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wa — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:00:53 GMT

This is asum!

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klk — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:03:28 GMT

yessssssssss

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Hunter Soli, Walhalla, North Dakota — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:22:17 GMT

THAT LOOKS AMAZING.............

HOPE I CAN GO TO SPACE AND SEE THAT SOME DAY, IT WOULD BE THE COOLEST THING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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COURTNEY BLANCHARD OK — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:23:47 GMT

I LOVE BLACK HOLES THEY ARE SO PRETTY.

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Mrs. Leonard — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:35:15 GMT

Hey, my class likes these really cool pics from space. We have a fully loaded classroom, with all the latest visual equipment, so we are enjoying all this incredible space photography. It reinforces much of our curriculum this year. Thanks

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Errick Quartucci, St. Charles, Missouri — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:44:42 GMT

Well I've read quite a bit on Black holes how nothing not even light itself can escape the pull of the black hole... My question that has yet to be answerd is that Is a black hole's force a pull or just a rip in space and time were no matter what it is it falls into it energy (light) and Matter (anything that takes up space)???

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josh lyon — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:37 GMT

absolutely gorgeous. not a big space or science freak but it is amazing none the less.

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Franklin Pond, Silvis, Illinois — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:53:49 GMT

How far from the center of the black hole are these x-rays radiating in this picture? Could x-rays like these radiate through gas giants such as jupiter and saturn to strike any of the inner rock planets such as the earth in the cosmic allignment in 2012? courious!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mark, LA, CA — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:58:51 GMT

I believe mass gets compressed in a blackhole. If we toss earth inside a black hole, how small would it shrink to, before it gets destroyed. Thanks.

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jes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:04:05 GMT

please,abt these dynamos you speak of. do you feel the n-s emf is entirely of emf reflux? does solar cosmic particles,winds,gases come into play also? and what about vacuum, where does that start? as far as the spiraling equatorial galaxy.does it act like a gyro for feed/energy mech. sorta reminds me of a clutch, flywheel of a automobile tranny........

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cesar clemete, manila philippines — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:09:40 GMT

i want to know all about space and galaxy. im wondering if we are alone in this huge galaxy... if there is anyone who can tell me about aliens i'll sureley appreciated,, i want to see more pics about galaxy

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Jia hamid, Lahore, Pakistan — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:10:27 GMT

Space seems a mystery and thus it is of great interest for me, since my childhood. I wish if I could see all this by my own eyes. Its all gigantic and owesome.

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Mike Maxwell, Laurel MD — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:13:26 GMT

Yet another civilization invents a Large Hadron Collider.

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Michael Jolly, Mobile AL — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:17:10 GMT

approximately how big would you say the wingspan is of that?

[ALAN ADDS: The figures I've seen indicate that the lobes and jets span a distance of more than 1 million light-years (about a tenth of the distance from here to the galaxy). Centaurus A is said to be one of the largest, most massive and brightest galaxies known.]

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Art., Pittsfield, Ma. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:31:35 GMT

The focal point of space has not been found nor will it ever be in our life time as, space is well, after all to spacey! The expanse of space is unlimited and no one truly knows it's boundaries! Arbitrary is right!!! North verses South? How arbitrary!!! Relevance to the mass is: spacial conceptions of time- continuum's trying to be defined by way of actions from reactions and this is only a disciplined reaction to the actions we all think we can explain!
It is defined as a black whole yet, none have been on the other side to prove it is a whole!!! If we use some theory about space warping than, why could it not just be a warp of deep immensity that it has spacial perception of it being a whole? One says that light does not escape from it's grasp but then again whom has watched it from it birth and who will watch it from now on? If the budget is so big and great to do something like this than, does not anybody think there are much, much better things to do with this money to help save this earth from the injected or hypothesis that this world will indeed come to an end eventually? I know that the human being is just as if not more spectacular than this sight we are shown here in the photos we are humored to see!!! The human race alone is the truer miracle that needs the help and studies for help and healing!!! Why looking into outer space is really like looking into a sea of people and pointing out to me exactly which person is the true middle man or woman!!! And, I mean in bloodline, not just a person standing there!!! Also meaning everyone that ever was and or will be, so how can this all be so? Can this ever be done by any of us? You spoke of avoiding a higher power or deity or believer vs. skeptic yet is is an integral part of what makes up science in the first place!!! Without these hypotheses in effect than, no one would have need to dive into the unknown for it would already be known!!! The forces in which drive all we know, do and see are but definitions of labels we can attach to them for our understanding of a nature we will with no doubt never be able to harness anyway!!! There is but only one concept of my layman's way of thinking that bothers me and is always on my mind no matter what day it may have been or is or will be and, that is, THERMAL!!! We use the term; warm or warming as an understood variable but, what do you know? Why can it not just be that if there is any presence of heat of any kind than it is considered hot and if not present than considered cold!!! I tell you why, because of labels, that's why!!! Or because we know something can be measured we've gone measure happy! Here, let measure how happy or sad that person is!!! How rich or poor that person is or, how sick or healthy that person is! Yet we are so caught up in this gluttony of measure we tend to forget to measure the more important values that have total value to all and not just the one over the other!!!

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Huma, LI, NY — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:47:46 GMT

We know that black holes actually store all the sound molecules that escape to space... ( i mean, where did you all think what we say went?)so, when an explosion as such accour, what happens tho all the sound molecules? get stored buy anouther blackhole?

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Kristin- Lawrenceburg,TN — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:53:13 GMT

Oh my God the wonderful beautiful mysteries space,I so loved this article!!!

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liz, slc, utah — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:53:31 GMT

So thankful for the beauty that Heavenly father has given to us.

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Homer Ugarte, Saint Cloud, Fl 34771 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:04:10 GMT

hey that discovered is really interestin u know, i was just askin my self just right in the moment wen i was written this commen if is possible to have another galazy inside those black holles or is might be life maybe another type of humans inside them or a planet wit life , i was wachin a discover from GEMINI OBSERVATORY SAYIN we have gasses really close to ur planet really dagerous who can destroy or planet at any moment like a armagedon....or with a incure virus, u can chek it at my myspace page is www.myspace.com/homer.ugarte, believe or not i have a vision u guys might tinks im crazy bc i dont have a carrer or nothing but im a logistic guy who think stuff like how ur planet was form, how ur ocean was made who are the ones who star the invisible war in ur planet.. who are the ones who save us to stay connect with the (aliens we can say or espesies ) i just was wachinh a movie i have at home and i use my logistic and find out the life in the sea also have a mision in ur planet and believe or not they are the ones who are keeping this world alive they are the one who are give us air to bread and the ones who are conect with theirs minds and urs minds without us have no knolege about it, but theres much ways to star guessin and star be prepare for anithing can might happen in the future...remember theres a might VRS fact....

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Gabriele Richey, Falls City, Ne. 68355 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:10:18 GMT

Glory be to God and his creation.

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Tony Doan; Hochiminh City; Vietnam — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:13:07 GMT

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Great life after Dead there?

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kathy ruark, kamiah idaho — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:19:43 GMT

its just simply awesome.

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Larry Podjan, Calgary,Alberta,CANADA — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:22:46 GMT

When I see stuff of this magnitude it just makes you feel so insignificant,that the ever expanding universe and the amazing phenomenoms that we are able to see because of our current technology, you wonder how much longer do we have to wait until we are able to travel into the far reaches of space to see such things closer up.When you look upon this black hole, do we have to rethink what has been said previously about these,and what's been written in science journals,and will they be rewritten. In the meantime, what I see here is just freaking amazing. You don't normally think there's all these colors in outerspace. We've always thought that space was just vast blackness with the stars out there and yet, every time I see one of these space pictures it just blows your mind.WOWWWWW!!!

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Russ Lisenby — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:33:51 GMT

I'm not sure this is relevant, but it has, for quite awhile, ocurred to me that apparent phenomenal reality
ranges from relative "close" to "far away", and that activities seen close appear unbalanced and chaotic,
and those far away seem to be in balance, in a state of equilibrium, or homeostasis, if you will. These images do seem to show both - chaos and balance.

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Arturo M-R, Mexico City, Mexico. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:35:49 GMT

I thing this is a QUASAR...the most red-shifted objets in the Universe.

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kelly,Nairobi,Kenya — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:36:42 GMT

this shows it the end of the worled.the Lord is comming.In the bible its l will display the sighn in the sky to mark the end time

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Homer Ugarte, Saint Cloud, Fl 34771 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:42:39 GMT

Can a fish Live in space admosphera or they explote for the preasure???.... or can u just let it go in a bag of water???? how much is can be the temparatura in space????if you realize they dont need no air to live right.............reasonable question......

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Moses baloyi jimmy jones ,malamulele, south africa — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:43:56 GMT

oh my me iam realy impressed, i wonder how you captured the caption . i have a no clue about sky things except God. you have one of the best gisft on earth . Discover more and more

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larry small,chambersburg,p.a. — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:44:08 GMT

could we see this from our house with a tele-scope...........if so,when and what time????? b/c i have a 9 yr. old step-daughter who loves to explore...lol

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Christina Harding, Bulawayo, Zimbabwe — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:50:27 GMT

wow thats just sooo amazingly beautiful! its amazing what God can do with the sky..i mean the rest of us would probably not even come close to making something so beautiful and hard to explain! God is truly an amazing God!

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Sally Lundeen Trail MN — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:18:08 GMT

I got a ? for you Do you believe that a block hole can create time travel or is that dumb to ask
It is also very beautiful and dangerous is it not?

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John, Parker, Colorado — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:22:21 GMT

Jim,
Don't forget that electricity is generated by magnetic fields, this is how electrical plants supply us with electricity. What Alan was saying is that the strong magnetic fields of this black hole are creating an electrical current shooting north and south from the center created by the friction of mass being slammed into it from space, at the same time polyenergetic gamma rays "x-rays" are being produced. The same phenomenon can be produced in an x-ray tube. All the principles are there and can work in reverse. The three ingredients are, mass,electricity and magnetism.

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Sally Lundeen Trail MN — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:25:29 GMT

I very mush like to look at the stars when the sky is full of them on a clear summer night I tryed getting my kids interstand in them. My son and daughter was amazed on how plantes are made and how fast light can travel. How many pictures are taken a day and how do you read them on how far away a plante or our oun milky way is or if there is a plante out there like earth or something like that

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neng — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:50:06 GMT

That is amazing information, i always interesting in
astronomi and every thing which related to this science either i'm not an astronaut or astronomist. Black hole is one of miracle in outer space.

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neng, bandung, indonesia — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:55:10 GMT

That is amazing information, i always interesting in
astronomi and every thing which related to this science either i'm not an astronaut or astronomist. Black hole is one of miracle in outer space.

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Mike M, Austin, Texas — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:12:18 GMT

The photo is very pretty, however it's easy to forget that most of the photo is really invisible to the naked eye. It's x-ray and radio waves that have been converted to visible light.

Part of the reason these photos look so beautiful, is the fact that it's been enhanced by people for an esthetic look. I just think people should be a little more aware of what they are looking at.

Also, we're really not looking at a black hole. All we can really do is observe the environment surrounding one. What we're seeing is probably better described as a very large nebula very a very large black hole in the center.

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John Lungu, EHC,Lusaka, Zambia — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:13:40 GMT

Gosh! What's going on here? Is this thing growing or shrinking? For how long has it been there, can you tell. Scares hell out of me.

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Doug Hastert, Louisville, KY — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:41:36 GMT

Wouldn't it be great to see these events on the time scale their size requires - to see the galaxy swirling as its shape implies, supernovas like fireworks popping all around, nebulae puffing up, and these beautiful massive black holes punching through our reality into the next.

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Rrezearta Muhaxhiri — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:59:13 GMT

Oohh gosh what is going on?We gonna die or what?
At the first when I saw that i think it's beautiful and great colors but now i have a lot of questions in my minde.
The great one.Thnx

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jonas somerset — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:03:17 GMT

that is cool!!!!!!!!!!!! but now i cant sleep.

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James Bejjani, Merrylands, Sydney — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:15 GMT

i thought light can escape around the black hole but not when its inside it. isn't that true Alan? i heard about this in school in science class.

[ALAN ADDS: Yes, that's exactly what's happening. The energy of the black hole is creating the blast, but the light is actually coming from outside the black hole's horizon.]

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mark u.k — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:25:18 GMT

is this linked to 2012 and the line up of the sun ?

[ALAN ADDS: Nope.]

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Ryan, Raleigh, NC — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:51 GMT

Wow, some of the comments on here range from mild to wild, educated to downright nutty!

In response to Daniel of Toronto's question about gravity waves escaping black holes, I might have an answer (though I'm a biologist and not a physicist). Gravity is currently described as a curvature in space/time, rather than as a wave or particle like light is. The very fact that nothing is capable of escaping a black hole is due to such extreme curving of space time around it, that once you pass the event horizon (the "black" part of a black hole), you would have to be traveling at a velocity that exceeds the speed of light in order to travel any distance away from the black hole, and since massive objects travelling at superluminal speeds are deemed physically impossible, escaping a black hole is therefore impossible. In other words, the only possible direction of movement within a black hole's event horizon is, in fact, towards the black hole's singularity.

Another way to think about this is that a black hole (or really any gravity) doesn't "pull" on you, per se. It actually alters space/time in such a way that your current position is closer to the center of gravity with each passing moment. So there are not (according to this theory) any gravitational "tractor beams" or waves that are actually emitting from the black hole or grabbing on to you and pulling you. I think that there is a hypothesis out there about the existence of "gravitons" which would treat gravity as a wave or particle, but these would quantum particles without mass, and so the whole "can't go faster than light" thing would not necessarily apply to them. At least that is my understanding of that hypothesis, anyway.

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david,kampala, uganda — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:50:41 GMT

this Godly amazing

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Ryan, Raleigh, NC — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:52:48 GMT

Another thing to point out here is that gamma ray bursts like this are not actually originating from within the black hole, but from outside it (as Alan mentioned in a comment he made).

When a black hole is "eating" the matter around it experiences some incredibly turbulent forces as it is accelerated very quickly to near-light speeds and collides with other matter doing the same thing. That is why you see so much light in the center. We cannot see the black hole itself here (by that I mean we cannot see the black hole's black event horizon) because it is underneath all the conflagration of exploding and colliding matter getting sucked into the black hole. The enourmous jets of gamma rays, x-rays, and charged particles we see in these pictures are the result of charged matter and photons that are so highly energized by the the swirling and accelerating that they actually break free from the gravity of the black hole (close to but NOT INSIDE the event horizon), and form a powerful jet away from the black hole from the only place where they will not collide with other matter in the process, which is the center, perpendicular to the spiral (think of the winds of a hurricane being weakest at its eye). The gamma rays from these jets (assuming they are pointed at us) can actually be felt millions of light years away, and are the furthest detectable events in the universe currently.

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Jason, Surftown, Wisconsin — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:01:33 GMT

As a hardcore surfer I'd like to say these microwaves could be a pretty groovy ride..what do you think Alan Boyle? If i had an adequate space suit could I rip these waves?

[ALAN ADDS: I can't think of a spacesuit that could stand up to that blast. Try something easier first, like riding the shock wave from a hydrogen bomb.]

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Robert Sullivan — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:28:29 GMT

If the "big bang" occurred from some focal point and everything is expanding outward, is there a an ever expanding "hole" left in space as everything leaves that focal point?

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Stanton — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:49:48 GMT

God's imagination is pretty amazing! I'm glad he is in control of this

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Eric, Ft. lauderdale Florida — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:02:13 GMT

The picture is fantastic but I was wondering about the scale of the event. Is there any way to provide some perspective as to how big the pictured event is in relation to something the layman can understand (i.e in comparison to our sun, our galaxy etc.).

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Dan Scott, Deming, NM — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:00:47 GMT

Why isn't this proof that the universe rejuvinates itself? Instead of the claims made that it will all seperate so much nothing will be seen in the night skies?

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Frank Glover, Rochester, NY — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:58:02 GMT

"A spaceship with a magnetic shield could magnetically funnel and trap antimatter , potentially storing huge amounts of energy from such natural phenomena."

Of course, you still have to *reach* one...

There are more mundane ways of producing antimatter locally.

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Frank Glover, Rochester, NY — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:05:51 GMT

"If black holes are caused by collapsing stars and no known force can stop the collapse then aren't all black holes in space still actively collapsing?"

The mass of a stellar black hole should go down to a point of infinite density and zero volume in a finite time.

Should.

What really happens when mass approaches that state is something we can't say with certainty, without knowing more about the structure of space-time. Successfully merging quantum mechanics with general relativity might give the answer, and there's a Nobel Prize waiting for anyone who can do that....

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edward behnke — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:50:24 GMT

When a star shrinks in opon it self it will exsplode
in to a supper nova . question is can a black hole become a nova and what would the effect be.

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Thomas Ashby, Calgary — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:52:38 GMT

North and south are defined by rotation, but specifically the rotational axis, which is always 90 degrees to the direction of rotation. Uranus actually rotates on it's side so that north and south point left and right rather than up and down.

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Ryan, Raleigh, NC — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:04:44 GMT

@ Robert Sullivan:

There is no "focal point" for the Big Bang, it occured everywhere at once as space expanded. I like to think of it as a sponge of infinite size that has been compressed. When released, the sponge expands everywhere at once, rather than exploding out from a single point in the middle.

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karlene, Nebraska — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:46:45 GMT

that picture is so so pretty! i wish i understood more about the science of it all!

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999merc, Earth — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:33:16 GMT

I Hear Its Caused By A Star Overaging At A Rapid Pace, Well Thats One Of The Most Recent Theories I Think & Im Assuming The Evolution Of Any Planet Is Caused By The Radiation(Stardust) Emitted From The Explosion Reaching A Planet, Star etc, Nobody Knows When And If It Fades. I Guess We Are Safe Since They Say Its Only Common In Star Nuseries ( area in space where stars are born ), Apparently We Arent Near Any. If You A Religous Person Like Myself I Guess Its Just God Clicking His Fingers Huh.

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Alex, CL, Iowa — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:47:45 GMT

I'm late to comment on this, but every time i see such a beatuiful image from the heavens, it speaks majesty to the research and technology that have led to these views as well as to a god who would endow us with both the capabilities for such technologies and the glorious views.
A bit sad he didn't put our place in our own galaxy a bit more offset to the galactic plane, imagine the view we could have had! Maybe that location is reserved for another time, another life.

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Craig Koenig, Louisville Kentucky — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:44:36 GMT

It,s only the begining... ; )

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Mike Hamm, Huntsville Al — Thu, 14 May 2009 22:59:19 GMT

I think what people lack in the exostensial debate is the ability to step outwards in the cosmos and see ourselves for what we really are, a single grain of sand in a galaxy of sand particles. Science will one day prove God beyond the shadow of any doubt...
The universe was created with laws and balance, and systems, and I believe that humans are "designed" to be curious and intelligent, and just "smart enough" to keep taking baby steps outwards in our thinking. After all, if we could actually fathom the universe, and Gods plan, we simply may not survive it. I think the vast distances in the universe are a buffer for all life...a purposeful limit to our ability to gather information. Time = Wisdom.