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50 years of seeking E.T.

Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:50 PM by Alan Boyle


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Click for video: The Drake Equation estimates the likelihood
of alien intelligence, based on assumptions about life in the
universe. Click on the image to watch a Space.com video
featuring the SETI Institute's Seth Shostak and Frank Drake.

It's been almost 50 years since scientists first came up with the idea of looking for radio signals from extraterrestrial civilizations - and although there have been a couple of curious blips, we haven't yet definitively heard E.T.'s cosmic call. Now the experts in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, or SETI, are wondering whether we've been looking in the wrong places for the wrong kinds of signals.

Or maybe we just haven't been looking long enough.

All of those possibilities are considered in "Confessions of an Alien Hunter," a new book from Seth Shostak, the SETI Institute's senior astronomer.

Shostak's "confessions" are actually Shostak's arguments for why the SETI search makes sense - leavened with dramatic accounts of the effort's best-known false alarms (including an episode that Shostak wrote up for msnbc.com a decade ago) and folksy metaphors that would put Dan Rather to shame (including this one: "Life is as durable as Christmas fruitcake").

The California institute where Shostak works is the primary standard-bearer in the search for alien signals. That search dates back to 1960, when astronomer Frank Drake (now the SETI Institute's president) aimed an 85-foot radio telescope in West Virginia skyward in hopes of tuning in the extraterrestrials.

After his initial foray, Drake and his fellow seekers moved on to bigger and better telescopes, including the old 140-foot Green Bank Telescope and the 1,000-foot Arecibo Observatory. But the strategy was pretty much the same: Check one star for an unnaturally steady radio signal, then move on to the next star.

Now that's changing. The Allen Telescope Array, a joint venture involving the SETI Institute and the University of California at Berkeley, will allow bunches of stars to be studied at once. Like microchips, the efficiency of SETI has been improving at a geometric pace in agreement with Moore's Law. If that pace continues for the next two dozen years, more than a million stars will be checked for signs of on-air life, Shostak notes.

Shostak and Drake say that sampling should be big enough to result in contact - assuming first that the aliens exist, and then that they think like we do. The first assumption is big, but the second one is even bigger. If the search for signs of microbial life on Mars and more distant worlds requires a correct understanding of astrobiology, the search for intelligence beyond our own solar system requires something more: astropsychology, perhaps?

Over the decades, the strategy for SETI has by necessity been dictated by a cosmic Golden Rule: We look for communication in the channels that we use to communicate. A generation ago, that might have been the analog television signals that carried "I Love Lucy" out to the cosmos. Today, Drake speculates that the aliens might be transmitting digitally, with lasers instead of monster radio antennas.

During a weekend talk in Seattle, Drake pointed out that the just-completed National Ignition Facility can focus the light of 192 lasers to create a pulse that lasts just a few nanoseconds but far outshines the sun. "Those lasers can make pulses of light which are visible to very small telescopes all across the galaxy," he noted.

Shostak theorizes that E.T. might have two types of transmitters going: one that flashes such pulses of light toward a long list of target planets that might be habitable - including us - and another "low-power, omnidirectional broadcast that tells you how to join their book club, or whatever." For that reason, SETI searchers have started conducting surveys for those tiny flashes of light as well as for sustained radio traffic.

So where should we look? Historically, the SETI Institute's target list has favored Earthlike planets where life as we know it might have taken root. But in "Confessions of an Alien Hunter," Shostak suggests that on the basis of what we're learning about artificial intelligence, the most likely aliens to send signals would actually be artificially intelligent machines.

If E.T. is a big shiny robot, the strategy of targeting Earthlike worlds orbiting sunlike stars may turn out to be "a very antiquated idea," Shostak acknowledged during a weekend interview. "A world on which the whole thing can rust might not be the best place for it," he said. A better place, from the machine's point of view, would be in orbit around a star hot enough to provide the prodigious power required for the big broadcast.

But Drake said the other end of the stellar scale shouldn't be overlooked, either. It turns out that about three-quarters of the stars in our galaxy are red dwarfs, which are dimmer than the sun but still could provide a home for E.T. Those stars have been overlooked in past SETI searches.

The bottom line, Drake said, is that "our simple picture was really way too simple" when it came to visualizing the kinds of places in the universe where life might lurk.

That's one of the reasons why Drake isn't discouraged that the SETI quest has come up empty, even after 50 years. He pointed out that only a thousand stars or so have been studied, over bandwidth that accounts for just a few percentage points of the potential spectrum. "We've looked at something like 10-5 of the possible combinations," he said.

Shostak said he felt confident that solid evidence of life beyond Earth will be found within two dozen years - either by continuing with SETI, or by analyzing exoplanet atmospheres, or by digging into the dirt on Mars or the ice on Europa or Enceladus. Drake, meanwhile, had a longer timetable in mind. "I don't think 2025 is going to happen unless we're very lucky," he told me. "Maybe it'll take twice as long - maybe 2050."

Other experts have suggested time frames of 100 to 200 years.

Of course, such timetables assume that SETI efforts around the world will continue to attract followers and funding. SETI efforts in the United States are funded privately rather than publicly, and Drake said it's getting tougher to raise money. "As long as the recession keeps going on, we have to move that [timetable] back," he said.

Could there ever come a point when the experts decide there's no E.T. out there to phone home? What would Shostak do if he hasn't heard from the aliens after a century of searching (other than celebrating the fact that he's still alive in the year 2060, that is)?

"I don't think I would be ready to say that they're just not there," he said, "but I might be inclined to say that we're barking up the wrong arboreal fixture ... that there's something fundamentally wrong with what we're doing."


How common do you think extraterrestrial intelligence could be? Plug some figures into the Drake Equation and come up with your own estimate. Search for extraterrestrial intelligence on msnbc.com. Then weigh in with your comments below.

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There are 'E.T.s' working in Beijing, China, at this very moment!
Alan, I missed Drake mentioning refigured livability for planets near red dwarfs with sufficient magnetic fields -- considering that rosy finding, what factors in the equation are the most elastic? What of the red dwarfs finding: does that affect (ne) the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets, (fℓ) the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point, or even (fi) the fraction of the aforementioned that actually go on to develop intelligent life?

On the general question of our SETI success, I have to go with "We've looked at something like 10-5 of the possible combinations" -- Drake, as the definitive observation. Thank you for jotting that one down :) I'm looking forward to a more diverse approach through SETI@home, too in time. Here I am over there:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=149431

BG
...Maybe listening to radio signals is like someone trynig to contact us using smoke signals? It would seem to me that any advanced interstellar civilisation would us a more sophisticated method (and much faster) than radio waves. Lately scientists are making progress with quantum teleportation, and if I understand- they aren't actually teleporting matter- but the entangled "qubit" instsntly from one area to another. Scientists are excited because tghis would result in munch faster "quantum " computers, but what if this technique could be used as a communication device? We could instantly send messages across vast distances. (the manned Mars mission for example) Thisleads me to infer that maybe other civilisations would logically use this technique as well.(Why wait hundreds of years for a message through radio when you could get an instant reply through "quantum" communicators?)
Mind you I'm just an average Joe, and not a scientist, so I really don't know if my theory is even plausible, but if it is, then maybe those are the signals we should be looking for!
It's possible that "they" wouldn't use technology at all in an effort to communicate.  At least not technology as we currently understand the term.  They might have means to directly impact the central nervous systems of creatures of a certain complexity (us).  I believe something of the sort was suggested in "Close Encounters", but never really said outright.  I suppose in a universe as vast as ours, anything's possible.
GIVE IT TIME  ___ THAT"S ALL WE CAN DO ___BUT BE CAREFUL WHAT U SEARCH FOR BECAUSE YOU MIGHT JUST FIND IT. THAN WHAT??????????????????????????????????????
The real problem is that if a civilization a million years more advanced than ours is still using radio waves, it will be in highly compressed, encrypted broadband form. It will just look like noise, and we will not recognize it as an intelligent signal at all.

When you look at the assumptions SETI is making, they are really assuming an advanced civilization is going out of its way to send us a high-powered, simple-to-understand beacon.  I doubt it, whether a robot or otherwise.  I have given up running SETI on my PC, and will devote it to more practical scientific searches.
No disrespect intended to either Seth Shostak or the SETI Institute but... mainstream science doesn't have a very good batting average when it comes to looking beyond the near horizon. Just a little over a hundred years ago, many of the best minds of the age were making it quite clear that heavier-than-air flight was simply impossible. A few hundred years before that, the Earth was flat and at the center of the universe.

Time-honored scientific truths have a habit of crashing like rookie NASCAR drivers.

Half the time when someone DOES see something that looks like ET, there's the old 'swamp gas' theory to make sure the idea never gets off the ground. The science community is in a constant state of conflict over the very basis of the notion of life 'out there', if not forms of outright denial.

The result is a tough, public cynicism towards mainstream science just like their is towards the mainstream media and... well, mainstream anything else. And please, don't blame us... we didn't invent debunkers, skeptics, Fox News or the US Air Force.

Aside from all of that... best of luck, you know?

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I think the fat lady has sung on whether or not there is life teeming throughout the galaxy. It is a mathematical certainty. The problem, as I see it, is one of contemporaneous development. Certainly, the possibility remains that intelligent species have flourished; but their civilizations may have peaked and faded millions of years ago, or may be millions of years yet in the making.

50,000 civilizations with permanence of approximately 10,000 years seems overly optimistic to me. The microcosm implies the macrocosm and so, if we study our OWN development, we can see how quickly technological civilizations can bring themselves to the brink of ruin. Who's to say that ANY civilization has lasted much beyond the ability to poison its own biosphere?

I don't mean to be bleak, but the human race has only been technologically "visible" for a little less than a hundred years. In that time, we have developed weapons and technology that could conceivably sterilize the planet. It may be a test that intelligence always fails.
They could point the things at congress for 50 years and come up empty there as well
Here's the question: When we do meet up with another life form, will they think we look like we just might taste good?
Life on Earth has existed for about 4.5 billion years, but only within the last 100 years has that life developed the technology to send & receive interstellar signals. There may be other intelligent life forms somewhere in our galaxy, but their technology could very well be far too primitive, or too advanced, to be detectable by us.
The whole approach is just wrong, dead wrong.

We are looking for life as we describe it.

What IS life?

Is it an entity that breathes an atmosphere?  That consumes things to keep itself sustained?

Why? Because this is what we know.

What about the sheer distances involved?  If we rely on conventional radio (with its inherent lightspeed limitation, can't get around that) then whatever we may come across this way is likely long dead billions upon billions of years ago anyway.  Even futher to the point, why would any "race of beings" (for lack of a better term to describe something we haven't even seen yet) even USE radio waves?  What if there is a technology that can transmit data hige distances at speeds we can't even come close to reaching with conventional light speed limits?  Would we even know if we have already received such data - since we can't measure it in "our way"?

I strongly believe that not only are we looking in the wrong places, we are also looking in all the wrong ways.  At this rate, we may never find "life" out there - because we wouldn't know how to identify it even if if has been screaming at us for eons.
Our first real contact may have already happened buried beneath the Phoenix Lander.

You may be looking at the first Microscopic Martians here YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhfSjJeQf58

I find it interesting that the Phoenix Lander Science team has determined buried just blow the Lander exists all the necessary ingredients for life to thrive on Mars today, which makes the worm-tube-like object from the Phoenix Microscopic Imager shown before on CNN American Morning UFO segment in November, and the scorpion-like object later shown on above Youtube moving around even more interesting. In other words just beneath the Phoenix Lander is an extremophiles paradise, remember the darker surface conducts more solar radiant energy from the sun during the daytime then the air just centimeters above it.    
I agree with mr black...maybe we shouldnt look. why take a chance on meeting with et's. We dont have the capability (that we know of) to go beyond the moon. If they come to us, they definitely have the capability to travel beyond their moon and into our solar system. If they made it this far, they probably have weapons we have only seen in science fiction movies. Leave it alone for a few more generations. It's reckless and dangerous. Good luck and God speed 2150.
A more advanced civilization might not use such a primitive way to communicate as electromagnetic radiation. Instead they might, for instance modulate gravity waves. Or link via quantum entanglement. Or something we primitive humans haven't discovered, as Matt B points out.

We also envision intelligent life as like us. They might be electromagnetic life forms living in our ionosphere. Or in the chromosphere of the sun. And living at a pace much faster than ours.

It amazes me that you all still refuse to see that evolution is a flat out lie. A complete and utter deception that is easily disproven on many levels. The universe does not spontaneously generate its own life. The universe did not come into being on it's own. The universe is not gaining complexity it is losing complexity.

We live in a created universe and ALL quality science demonstrates that. Stop explaining away the obvious and living in intentional ignorance. The Day of the Lord is almost at hand. Find out what that means.
We often confuse SETI with simple SETL - the search for extraterrestrial life. I would bet that the universe is teaming with life. But I would also bet that intelligent life of the human order is very very very rare. We can make lots of excuses why SETI has failed to find intelligent signals, but the life time of the universe (13.7 BY) and the apparently rare conditions necessary to have a turbulent evolutionary process (such as we have on earth) tells us that really advanced civilizations are probably rare. We should expect a few earth-equivalent civilizations within 50 parsecs of us but we haven't found any. If intelligence extraterrestrials are machines, we expect them, as Von Neumann said, to be here by now. My own feeling is that we are very much alone in the galaxy (but probably not in the universe, if that is any consolation).
Aw..fer cryin' out loud.  They can't see the forest for the trees.  We have empirical evidence that some UFOs are alien lifeforms.  If these guys would take the blinders off, they might just learn something.  When they say, 'there is no evidence of aliens visiting earth' what they really mean is that they haven't spent a nanosecond looking at the mountains of it. Because if they did, they might have to admit that their 'radiowaves' looking for ET signals is nonsensical given what the world knows already about UFOs. SETI's arrogance is disgraceful.  It's right in front of their eyes, but are willingly blind.
Shostak and Drake are part of the coverup.  Aliens are here on earth and they know it.

Ladies and gentlemen, SETI is lying to you.  HERE is the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh8YG6qt0jo
"the fat lady has sung on whether or not there is life teeming throughout the galaxy. It is a mathematical certainty."

Right--as long as we are correct in assuming that life, including intelligent life, arises completely on its own given time and raw materials holds.  But what about the alternative--that intelligent life is the result of purposeful intent.  Isn't this result just as interesting?   peace.
strongly agree with don. best possible way. but how we we entangle quibits to eavesdrop on them? good answers appreciated
As our knowledge grows we should just keep looking, we may invent new ways (ie the person who posted above about a quantum communicator, or in the article with the burst of light and such) but we should keep searching with the old ways as well as the new, and hope for the best! We may never find anything then again we MAY find something as well if we dont try we NEVER will
still nothing about Dyson Spheres!!
Does anyone realize that the radio signals we are listening for have to have been sent over 20 million years ago or what ever millions of light years away potential earth like planets are away from us?  How long did it take intelligent life on this planet to figure out how to send a radio wave?  Well, if you accept the age of the universe, the age of the earth and how long evolution took to create a species that can transmit radio waves, you can only assume that it has roughly taken that long for another planet to create a species with the capable technologies.  In order for us to get a radio signal from them right now they would have had to produce the signal over 1 million years ago.  I don't accept the notion that we will ever hear a radio signal from ET in my lifetime or in time span of humans.
How long has man kind been around ? Skeletons seem to indicate millions of years. How long have we been searching, 59 years? If we get a civilization 100 light years away it would take 100 years there and a hundred back .
Keep searching, guys. We have a long time to go or maybe it's tomorrow
Personally, I'm not sure I want to be found by other life out there. Why do we assume it would be a good thing? If they are anything like us and are more advanced we're screwed.
No No No - Aliens won't have anything to do with us until we achieve warp drive capability. Everyone knows THAT!
I'm still waiting for signs of intelligent life on this planet.
In my opinion here are some possible reasons why we have not made contact with E.T. on other planets:

1) They are using an advanced form of technolongy to communicate with us

2) Maybe they do not want to communicate with us since we are not as advanced as they are. Like the Prime Directive in Star Trek

3) We are assuming that they are advanced and possible have failed to consider the possiblity that just maybe evolution for E.T on other planets might have started late. And if they started late it is possible that they do not have the technology to communicate with us.
While it's probably true that other advanced civilizations use communication methods other than radio waves we still have no idea what they are, so we can't devise ways of detecting them even if we wanted to.

Our best hope is to keep listening out for radio signals that are sent to us with the specific aim of getting our attention. If we were trying to contact a remote Amazonian tribe (without actually visiting them) we'd use the simplest, most basic form of communication that they could see. We wouldn't beam them a signal from a satellite. That's why I'm guessing ET would use radio waves (or lasers). If, however, ET ISN'T deliberately trying to contact us then unfortunately there's very little chance of us intentionally eavesdropping on their conversations.

I suppose the bottom line is that the only way to find out is to look. Everything else is just baseless speculation, so lets get on with SETI type approaches until we can come up with something better.

I'm not sure I would want to meet any aliens we would encounter through SETI. Human beings are cruel enough to each other, despite being of the same species. What would another species do to the human race, especially if they saw us as nothing than talking monkeys who can cobble together iron-ore buildings and make "primitive" tools like fiber-optics, cars, and radio waves?

I'm not sure E.T. will be cute and cuddly.
A minimum number of planets with life on them would be about 100 billion. That's a conservative figure.  It's based on this simple formula: One planet per Galaxy.  It seems to take about 200 billion stars to be able to produce 1 planet with life on it such as our own Earth.  There's about 200 billion stars in our galaxy.  This might mean that it takes 200 billion different conditions to be just right for a planet to support life.  Here's just a couple: the size of the planet, the habitable zone of orbit, does the planet have a magnetic field to protect life from radiation, does the planet have water, and billions of other conditions that we can't even think of that have to be just right. So you could say one planet per galaxy.  In just the areas of the universe that we have been able to explore, the estimate is 100 billion galaxies.  There are most likely many more that have not been discovered yet.  
Search the WEB... READ information from Dr.Dan Burisch, Phil Schneider(CHECK--his(Phil's') back ground..first!!). READ about the MAJESTIC 12. READ about the existing "Shunkworks" projects. READ about ALL of the "BLACK" projects our so-truthful GOVERNMENT.. has kept from ALL of the us! I believe SETI is just a "cover"--for the REAL TRUTH! In fact I'm certain of it--no doubt in my mind.
Don't believe me? Well then... Check out what I've stated.
Believe me--there is SO much more to find out, and actually "prove", IF--you have the mind,and stomach for it... IF--you really want to know the REAL TRUTH!
THE "TRUTH"--IS OUT HERE.
We seem to be assuming that an intelligent life out there would want to communicate with us. Given the mess we've made of our own planet, we may be flattering ourselves.
My beef is that SETI assumes ET is trying to call us and others. However, we are not doing that so why should they? If everyone doing it the way we are, then we're all waiting for the phone to ring and no call is coming.

Shouldn't SETI look for routine radio chatter rather than signals directed at us?

Put it another way: SETI assume ET has found our reruns of "Star Trek" and is now beaming us a direct signal to say "hi." Should we not be looking for the same thing from them?

Look at the FCC spectrum chart. 1.6Ghz (the water hole) is tagged for "radio astronomy" and that is where most of the listening happens.

Meanwhile all around that is our mobile phone and other services.

Why not ask "what frequencies would ET use in daily life?" and listen there. That is hard, because we use them too and filtering false positives is hard, but since the standards used for communications are well documented identifying terrestrial digital or analog signals is possible, even in an automated fashion.
There recently was our own retired astronaut who says
we are not alone. Of course we are not alone, the idea
of SETI to me is ok but I don't think they would re-
spond to a I love lucy signal or music or anything we
could send out.We are too primitive and they are way
too advanced for us. We are still living in a cave to
them and probably look at us like some kind of dumb animal and a very poor excuse of a intelligent being.
Alien life may comunicate to other life forms with fundemental principles that we do not know. Our level of knowledge, based on greater expendetures of energy and the deifing of strength, my be seen as belonging to a dangerous phase of development.
Always interesting to be reminded of how big the universe is. We certainly wouldn't be suprised to find communicative life, but certainly hard to have have a conversation. But I suppose anything worth saying should take some time.
Radio signal break up after a couple of light years and there's no way for sound to travel through the vacuum of space so why are people wasting tax payers money(goverment grants) and there time on something stupid like this. I believe in life on other planets but thats no reason to through everything we know about physics out the window so a bunch of well paid sobs to sit around and listen to nothing all day
The biggest question, I think, is the contemporaneous development in the same technological direction. We're looking for boradcast wireless signals.

But at the same time, our society is moving *away* from high-power broadcast wireless signals. All those high powered TV and radio stations are going digital, a lot of use use cable instead, and satellite is directional! (Down, in case you were wondering.)

So there's really a fairly short (100-200 years) period where *we* could be detected via what the SETI folks are looking for. We may have already looked in the right place, but were looking at a society who never developed wireless transmissions (went straight to cable TV for example) or was already wired by the time we started looking.
If a galaxy containing billions of stars can pass through another galaxy without the stars ever hitting each other because they’re too far apart in miles, it would seem likely that billions of ET’s could come and go without ever seeing each other because they’re too far apart in time.
My hypothesis; for every star in galaxy ‘A’ that hits a star in galaxy ‘B’, that’s how many ET’s we can find.
If the government did make contact, do you actually think that they would tell us? Most of the information the government deals with these days is classified top secret. I believe E.T.'s have already tried to communicate with us by way of crop circles. If you did some serious research into the phenomenon it will be obvious that they are created by advanced technology & have messages encoded in them. Pull your head out of the sand already Mr. Boyle.
I can't be the only one terrified that the aliens will find us firstand hop onto Myspace or some ultimate fighting fansite or Buffy the Vampire Slayer fanfic archive. Seriously: let's assume they reach us first and receive some sampling of internet traffic. Odds, anyone, that their initial findings would literally make them rip their own homeworld from standard orbit for the sole purpose of relocating several thousand additional lightyears from us.
I remember several years ago (almost 20), hearing a story on 20/20 one night.  They were reporting on a brilliant young scientist who mysteriously vanished.  He and his father had been working on usning unstable gravity waves for almost instantaneous communication over stellar distances.  Has anyone else heard of this?
If communication is by means of lasers they are likely to be highly directional. Chance of picking a signal up that is not meant for us - zero.

Throughout the years there have been reports of flying saucers. Fact is though that if ET really had travelled here extensive use would have been made of nanotechnology. Any spacecraft we would have been able to observe would have been the size of a large insect - if that.

No, I think it is clear that SETI is a complete waste of effort.
We have to look no further than our own planet, do your homework.  We didn't evolve from apes, we are more related to dolphins than anything else.  They work among us and we ourselves may be them.
Those of us in the Northeast fondly remember our "snowball" fights as kids. As we busily built our snow forts and constructed our weaponry from the late winter sun's softened snow. The "fight" would start with pitcher's arm speeds and deadly accuracy, until.........the one smart ass would lob a lazily thrown one pounder high into the sky while the opposing army would watch with mouths agape; arms and hands hanging at their sides. THEN, a fusillade of 80 mph pitches would hit the gawkers in the face catching all of them off guard!........watch out for the lobbed pitch.
After 50 years of fruitless searching for ET isnt it about time we realize we really are special in this universe we are truly all alone.   If we aren't alone than we should not be attempting to communicate with an advanced race it will not go well for us. We are advanced compared to every species on this planet and look how we treat them.      Perhaps we should be more like the rabbit hiding in the woods hoping not to be spotted by a predator.
I believe that Troy and Matt have got it right.  When we look through our telescopes at deep space and make assumptions about the viability of stars and their satelites we are looking back in time.  We could be looking (or listening) to their equivelent of the age of the dinosaurs.  It's too early, by maybe millions of years, to say we are alone.  Alas, with our short attention spans and our human need for instant gratification I imagine we will hang up long before ET has a phone to answer at the other end of the line.

We're also very egotistical with regards to our technology.  Surely an advanced civilization (like us) would have similar technology and would be able to phone our home.  Not necessarily.  

The suggestion that we look at our own development and the ways various life forms (other than human) communicate on THIS planet might give us some ideas about other ways to communitcate with ET that he/she/it might actually understand.  Maybe the intergalactic equivalent of whale song, crickets rubbing their legs together, or hormonal signals?

And for those of you who believe that ET will only be interested in "How to Serve Man", with recipes from his inter-stellar cookbook.  Well, I think you've seen a little too much science fiction.  When we visit other worlds are we looking for fast food? Then why should ET?  
The galaxy is billions of years old we think. Perhaps more or less that has not been nailed down yet. But there is a lot of time for civilizations to evolve, develop technologically and eexpand.
If our point in time coincides with another races point in time and is close enough we can detect it as well we will be almost more than lucky. But on that chance alone, there would be no greater advance for both our races. The simple fact thet we would then know that other thinking beings have survived all the radicalness of their times and their children have lived on and not killed themselves off would be fantastic. That possibility of hope in and of itself would have a greater inpact on our society than any of us can understand in our current hate, radical and greedy environment. Just as kids in slum gang ridden neighborhoods change when they start seeing and believing they can get out to a larger less hate driven world. Maybe we all could as well. Maybe we just need that example as adults that our kids need to feel the possibility is real and not imagined.


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