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Ready for the Really Big One?

Posted: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:46 AM by Alan Boyle


Kim Olsen / SDSU
A color-coded computer simulation charts ground
shaking caused by a 9.0 quake in the Pacific
Northwest. Click on the image for more information.

The magnitude-6.3 earthquake that struck villages in Italy was horrible enough, but can you imagine what would happen to a city like Seattle if it were hit by a magnitude-9 shocker? That's exactly what Caltech's Thomas Heaton and Jing Yang try to do in a new series of simulations - and the picture isn't pretty.

In many of the simulations, high-rise buildings suffered severe damage. In some of the simulations, they collapsed altogether. Do those simulations reflect reality? The bottom line for Heaton and Yang, as for many other researchers looking into the potential effects of megathrust earthquakes, is that we just don't know.

"We can make some guesses, but they're just that: They're educated guesses," Heaton, who heads the Earthquake Engineering Research Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology, told me this week. "Depending on how we set the parameters, we can end up with shaking where it looks like current [building] codes can ride through it, or we can set parameters where it looks really bad."

The problem is that scientists haven't been able to analyze the effects of truly monstrous quakes on urban areas. Sure, there was the 9.0 quake and tsunami that devastated Sumatra in 2004 on the day after Christmas. But that was a different situation.

"They were unfortunate in all the tsunami issues, but they were fortunate that they didn't have any high-rise buildings that swayed in resonance," Heaton said.

Then there was the 8.1 quake that hit Mexico City in 1985. "All the crummy little buildings that existed in Mexico City were completely undamaged," Heaton said, "but the high-rise buildings, which were the pride of their construction industry, many of them collapsed. It wasn't just a matter of poor construction. It was a case of the wrong buildings being in the wrong place at the wrong time."

The kind of monitoring equipment needed to get a good fix on the shaking involved in that quake just weren't in place, Heaton said. As a result, the best that scientists can come up with are computer models based on the data they're able to gather from a variety of seismic situations.

Heaton and Yang combined data from the 2004 Sumatran quake and Japan's magnitude-8.1 Tokachi-Oki quake in 2003 to develop their models. They also factored in engineering data about the structure of modern steel buildings ranging in height from six to 20 stories, as well as geological data about Seattle and the Cascadia subduction zone.

Why pick on Seattle? It's not because they've got something against the Mariners: Rather, it's because the Pacific Northwest is known to be prone to infrequent but powerful earthquakes, including a 9.0 temblor that sparked tsunami waves as far away as Japan in 1700.

The findings, presented today at the Seismological Society of America's annual meeting in Monterey, Calif., indicate that such an event could pose a catastropic risk, due to the way high-rise buildings might sway during, say, four minutes' worth of low-frequency motion.

"In general, high-rise buildings behave very differently from low-rise buildings," Heaton explained. "They're primarily designed to be flexible - and in sharp, rapid shaking, during a moderate-size earthquake, high-rise buildings perform extremely well."

It's a different story for large-size, low-frequency quakes, particularly in places like the Seattle basin, Heaton said. "You put a typical house or low-rise construction on that kind of ground, and the accelerations are not very big. They make you feel a little dizzy. You just ride with the motion," he said. "But a tall building can begin to sway in time with the resonance. That can be very dangerous."

The risk would be significantly higher for buildings that don't come up to the construction standards set after the 1994 Northridge earthquake. Before then, the typical materials and procedures used for welding buildings together weren't as stringent, Heaton said. 

Heaton emphasized that he and Yang were working with hypothetical 20-story structures, and not specific buildings. (Seattle's tallest skyscraper is the 76-story downtown Columbia Center, completed in 1985.) And he said his concerns aren't limited just to Seattle.

"We did a simulation of what the same buildings might do in a 1906 earthquake repeat, and to be honest with you, I think the threat in San Francisco is probably at least as severe as Seattle," he said. "This is not just a Seattle issue. These long-period motions only show up in the largest events, and the largest events don't happen very often. But they do have to happen: They're the main actors in plate tectonics."

So what's a person to do?

"I'm just one professor in a university, and these decisions about the best course of action are rarely made by an individual," Heaton said. "One of the obvious things to do is to repair the old welds in buildings, although it tends to be quite expensive to repair those welds. My feeling as a professional is that those welds need to be dealt with sooner or later, and you might as well deal with them sooner."

Earthquake experts in Washington state say they've been dealing with seismic concerns for many years - and particularly since the 6.7 Nisqually quake of 2001. "No one's drawn a final line here," said Rob Harper, a spokesman for the Washington Emergency Management Division. "They're continuing to look at data across the whole spectrum of issues. I don't think anybody figures we can stand pat."

Harper said the Cascadia Region Earthquake Workgroup has taken a lead role in assessing the seismic risk and recommending upgrades in building standards as well as preparedness guidelines. A 2005 CREW report specifically addresses the 9.0 megaquake scenario, and state officials try to keep up to date on the latest findings.

Tim Walsh, chief hazards geologist at the Washington Department of Natural Resources, is familiar with Heaton's line of research, although he hasn't yet seen what was being presented at the Monterey meeting. "He thinks that [long-period earthquakes] are more severe than has been typically thought," Walsh told me.

Walsh acknowledged that uncertainties remain. "It's a quandary, to be sure, because our building codes - and building codes around the world - have never been tested on these long-period motions," he said.

"I've talked to structural engineers about this issue, and in general they're concerned that we don't have enough information," Walsh said. However, he added, most of those engineers "are confident that there's enough redundancy" in the area's building practices to provide an extra margin of safety for the megaquake scenario.

Can the earthquake in Italy provide insights for dealing with future megaquakes? Because of the way that the magnitude scale is structured, a 9.0 quake is much more than 1,000 times as energetic as Italy's 6.3 quake - which makes this week's tragedy a "very different kind of situation from what we're talking about," Heaton said.

Nevertheless, there is a lesson to be learned from the Italians.

"I feel quite confident that they wouldn't have had the same tragic outcome if people had been in modern buildings with a good building code," Heaton said. "It's really not that big an earthquake. It was the inadequate reinforcing of masonry structures that primarily was the problem there. ... It's a good example showing that it's worth paying attention to your buildings ahead of time."


For still more about monster earthquakes, check out our earthquake preparedness guide, our list of nine killer quakes and our interactive fact file about seismic science.

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Like an asteroid hit, it's not a matter of 'if' but 'when'...

Also, the Juan de Fuca plate off the northwest coast is a subduction system that I believe is independent of the san andreas transform fault. If they do interact somehow, it's not at all clear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Fuca_Plate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_fault

Good article, but I think they should put the statement "Because of the way that the magnitude scale is structured, a 9.0 quake is more than 1,000 times more energetic than Italy's 6.3 quake" near the beginning, for people who don't read the whole article.  I doubt most people know that an increase of 1.0 in earthquake magnitude means the earthquake is 100 times as strong.
too bad Charlston Heston aint alive he'd save us all from the big one in Calif. like he did in that movie, and with all his guns.
I would get Bobby Jindal's "Expert" advice before going too much further in your estimates!
As a third generation Californian I thought this state had the monopoly on earthquakes. I guess the NW has more to worry about than Mt Rainier blowing up. The Northridge-Reseda shock in January '94 happened at 4:30 am on a holiday-Martin Kings birthday which meant few people were on the roads that Monday. It was 6.6 on the scale. We are overdue for  a Big One as the 'quake brains' claim along the San Andreas Fault as in 1906.  
Doesn't take a genius to realize that older buildings/cities are going to suffer the most damage in a major earthquake.  

Would be interesting to see what would happen to a modern city under an 8+ magnitude earthquake however.  Kind of wonder how it would feel as well.

To be honest, I don't think it's geographically possible that I'll ever experience anything really damaging at home fortunately, but the social experiment would be fascinating (despite the tragedy).  

The Pacific Northwest does beg for some attention though.  California gets it's share of activity (not much, but enough to alleviate tectonic stress),  However, for an area like Western Washington to exist where it does without any frequent, sizable movement is pretty concerning.

Needless to say, the cost of retrofitting and adhering to strict building codes will almost certainly pay off eventually.  That much shouldn't even be a question.  Still, there's not much you can do when a structure starts resonating but sit back and watch it self destruct, regardless of how much reinforcement is built into it.
Instead of waiting for a known fault in an area that builds up to a high magnitude to release on it's own is it plausible to drill down and set off a conventional explosive to slip the fault in a scheduled, "controlled" quake?  A little shudder every decade instead of a major event every century.  Of course, that could speed drift and usher in the next ice age all the sooner.  But at least we wouldn't worry about global warming.
So does this go with, for example the earthquake that we had here in Anchorage a couple of days ago that was 4.6. It was a couple of strong quake shakes. I remember the Nisqaully quake, (I was living in Puget Sound at the time). The one we had the other day was different. Anybody explain the difference
It sounds as if the study didn't take into consideration the results of geological analysis done at the UW.  Researchers found that much of the landfill area (downtown) may liquefy and slide back into Puget Sound, while the geology in other areas (West Seattle) will actually magnify the force of the quake.  With the Ring of Fire being active in every portion except the Pacific NW, does anyone really think the "Big One" is far away?  Odds are good that the pressure is building there, especially since that area has many geologic similarities to the Indonesia area, based on various articles that have been published.  The series of 4.8-5.2 quakes off Bandon, Or. in the past 2 years may be a warning.
I am a 22 year resident of Seattle. The magnitude that you speak of feels almost impossible to understand. I felt shaking and swaying in the Nasqualie Quake a few years ago. I work in a 15 story building on First Hill across the street from a major hospital. It was terrifying at 5.8// What would a 9.0 be like??  Yikes. I do not even want to think about that scenerio.
Live broadcast of 9.5 mega event off the coast of Oregon coming soon to a theater near you!  2009 or 2010 is gonna be the BIG one and the resulting 150 foot tsnumami will wreck Japan, Hawaii, Alaska and of course California.  Stupid people who move there.  Just stupid.  Then too, another big 8+ is going to hit the Riverside/Wrightwood area and bye bye Los Angeles and the resulting tsunami will be a double dose of bad news for Hawaii.  All coming in the next 24 months guaranteed.
We're living the Big One... the biggest economic crash in history. An earthquake or a Tsunami while terrible, is no where near as devastating as the brutal, decade long economic depression in the U.S. where millions will die...
I have Red Cross comprehensive disaster kit. These are back packs that have all the necessary items to survive outside your dwelling for up to 2 weeks.

In additon I have augmented the kit with pain killers, and other items such as "Spam" and "tuna" to insure enough protein during a terrible event.

If you have pets, it's important to stock up food for them and consider that you will need to have additonal water to insure you don't have to make a decision who drinks and who does not.

Unfortunatly I also have a 9 mm and a 38  Smith and Wesson to insure my own personal security ( I have a permit to own these weapons ).One needs to understand if you think you can count on the police during this period of time, look back to New Orleans. Even the Cops were the bad guys.
if your in the middle of a mega quake, you as a person, will not be able to move, anywhere, even if told beforehand. anything higher than a 5, in the epicenter, is extremely difficult to move around in. if you have never been in one, it is hard to imagine not being able to move. it is quite the experience, one i will never forget
BRING IT ON
I worry about the New Madrid fault, and another massive quake hitting Missouri/Tennessee.  Memphis will be toast if they get an 8-9 along that faultline, and they began seeing liquifaction along the banks of the Wolf River in Memphis as far back as 2002 (perhaps longer).  Is that city prepared?  No.  The most earthquake-proof structure is AutoZone Corporate Headquarters.  Go figure.
I remember the Quake in the 1960s. I also remember a quake in 2000. No big deal! We all have to die sometime! Life goes on. Dust to dust. Ops, excuse me, I just sneezed!  
I live in Montana about 90 miles from the largest geothermal volcano in the world. If this puppy blows I won't have to worry about it. Yellowstone is way way overdue.
Just out of curiosity, I watch Mega Disasters from time to time on The History Channel, and am wondering if there has been anything on that on Mega Disasters, depicting what the big one will be like?  
We just have to prepare ourselves for such a big disaster, there is nothing You can do to stop it.  I been through the 2001 Nisqually 6.8 quake in 2001, it was a scary experience for me.  I got myself prepared for when it does happen, I got a disaster checklist I follow up on and grab things from around the home to place in my disaster kit.
i'm waiting for the big one to hit iran.  the damage will be catastrophic.
Lots of plate activity lately. Get ready!! Maybe the next full moon???

RE Patricia Shannon, Atlanta, GA (Sent Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:17 PM)

An increase of 1.0 on the Richter scale is a magnitude of 10 shaking amplitude not 100 and 31.6 times in energy release. The energy release in a 9.0 is 11,220.18 times that in a 6.3.

The energy difference is:
(10^(magnitude difference))^(3/2)

[ALAN ADDS: Good point. I only considered the step between 7 and 9 when I said that the energy difference was a factor of more than 1,000, but the additional fractional difference has a big impact when you're talking about logarithmic scales. Thanks for being more precise.]

every disaster has its good side.... no California, can't wait.
I LIVED IN THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA AND I REMEMBER THE LOMA PRIETA QUAKE IN 1989 VERY WELL, IT WAS TERRIFIYING!!  I PACKED UP AND LEFT FOR GOOD IN 1999 AND MOVED TO ARIZONA...MIGHT BE HOT...BUT NO EARTHQUAKES...
DJ,  The earthquake we had here this week was quite short compared to the quakes they are talking about.  I felt a big jolt and then about 10-15 seconds of rolling (ground floor, downtown Anchorage).  They are talking about long earthquakes that last minutes, not seconds.  Long earthquakes can set up a type of 'wave' in buildings that will eventually cause them to snap at the weakest point and then collapse.  We were lucky this week - but us, and the rest of the PacNW is on the ring of fire, we're sitting ducks.

The scale utilized to measure the level of an earthquake (Richter Scale) in a base 10 log function. Thus for each increase of 1 in the Richter Scale there is a 10 fold increase in the size of the quake. Therefore, a 9 would be less than 1000 times a 6.3, not more than 1000 times. In either case, I'd prefer to be as far away as possible!

[ALAN ADDS: It's not a base 10 log increase in energy. It's a base 10 long increase in the amplitude of the wave as measured by a seismometer. Figuring out the energy release corresponding to that amplitude requires an additional formula. Unless I'm mistaken, every integer increase in magnitude represents a 32-fold increase in energy. The formula is designed so that two integer steps in magnitude represent a 1,000-fold increase:]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_magnitude_scale

Interesting comments...from the pragmatically lucid S. Dofelmier to the Don Fontaine-esque wowlfie to the well read and direct Thomas Ashby to the on-point, non-trivial triva answer (someone had to point out that scale!) of Patricia Shannon, I thoroughly enjoyed the feedback as much as the article.  Let's hope we don't get any more quakes out here like the April 2002 Plattsburg earthquake/explosion/fiendish plot (take your pick).
When it hits, it hits
U'ins is lame. It all be over seconds. You won't even know your buried under tons of steel and rock. Get a job outside cutting trees down. Go Wowlfie.
After all of the hoopla about the "big one," it better happen in my lifetime or I'm going to be really, really mad if I die before it happens.
I understand that the largest earthquake ever recorded happened in Chile and it was a 9.5. Earthquakes greater than 8 only happen about once a year. Magnitude 9 earthquakes do not happen every year.
Patricia said that an increase in Magnitude meant that the earthquake was 100 times as strong. Actually, every increase of 1 means that it is 10 times as strong as the previous one. That means a 7.3 would be 10 times stronger than a 6.3 and an 8.3 would be 10 times stronger than a 7.3 ...or 100 times stronger than a 6.3. A 9.3 would be 10 times stronger than an 8.3, 100 times stronger than a 7.3, and 1000 times stronger than a 6.3. I think that the report was incorrect when it said that a 9 was 1000 times stronger. This is a logrithmic scale. Also, there is a difference in energy released how much the earth shakes. It depends on how much area the earthquake covers. A Magnitude 9 earthquake happens about once every 20 years. Hurricanes use a similar logrithmic scame and they are called categories. Categories go from 1 to 5.
I can easily understand the concerns that they have about a massive earthquake along the west coast. I live in southwestern Missouri and well remember the Good Friday earthquake that rocked Anchorage, Alaska in 1964. The magnitude 9.2 quake devastated Anchorage and even affected wells in the Missouri Ozarks. Many residents around here reported muddy water coming from their faucets even though the quake itself was not felt here. There are other earthquake-prone areas that geologists feel have a pretty fair chance in this country. One is in the area in and around New York, New York. There has been some slight activity wothin about 130 miles lately and it seems to be becoming more frequent in the last few months, so who knows what could happen there. One thing is for sure. Massive destruction in the New York City Metropolitan area would cause massive loss of life and property and would likely wreck our economy. Another place where geologist have a great concern is the New Madrid Seismic Zone which includes portions of Arkansas,Tennessee,Kentucky, Illinois and Missouri along the Mississippi River valley. Massive earthquakes believed to be of magnitude 8 or more struck the area in the winter of 1811-1812 and are given a good chance to occur again in the next 20 years or so. It is considered that such an occurrence would likely destroy both the Memphis, Tennessee and Saint Louis, Missouri areas. Whereas Hurricanes Katrina and Rita caused massive destruction over an area of 6,000 square miles along the coast, it is felt that such massive destruction from a hige New Madrid earthquake would likely cause massive destruction over an area twice the size of Missouri (2 x69,000) or nearly 140,000 square miles. And these are not the only places where geologists consider that such a massive event could occur. I live a little over 200 miles west of the New Madrid fault and there several minor faults around here. How such an event in the New Madrid area would effect the faults here is anyone's guess, so one never knows what might happen here. Another result of such an event in the New Madrid area would be massive disruption of oil and gas pipelines as well as motor and rail traffic at the Misssissippi river, not to mention some disruption of air traffic at places such as Memphis, Indianapolis, Saint Louis, and other air hubs. Although I will not lose any sleep over it unless it should occur and no one else anywhere should either, one should be aware of the possibilities and be prepared in case such an event should occur. We have no way to prevent such an occurrence, but we can try to be prepared, just in case, for any disaster.
A geologist once told me that anyone living in the Pacific NW for more than twenty years will witness some sort of seismic event.  I wonder what the likelyhood of Crater Lake erupting again.  The last time it went up was about 7700 years ago.  Geologist claim that it usually erupts every 7000 years.  We just may see some major changes.
These big quakes can also happen in South Carolina and in southern Missouri - and could cause damage to older buildings as far away as Boston and NYC.  The 1811 quakes in Missouri were felt in Montreal and cracked plaster on walls in Boston.  East Coasters should also have a plan for a tsunami, from the Canary Islands....tsunami from past volcano flank collapse have actually washed over and helped shape the Bahamas.  The WHOLE planet gives us risks, wherever we live!
I live in Northern California, Rio Dell near Eureka and survived the  April 1992 San Juan DeFucca  subduction zone quakes. You never hear about those quakes in the stats, but they were devastating to 8 or 9 communities here and were declared a Federal and state disater zone.  There were three of them... very long ..45 to 60 or more seconds within about 12 hours and multiple aftershocks for months.  The three quakes ranged in magnitude from about 6.1 to 6.5, I think... if someone out there wants to know exact magnitudes, I have that and will get it to you.  Our home was on a solid peramater and pier and post foundation but still sustained 45,000 worth of foundation and structural damage.  We lived in a tent in our backyard for two weeks because we had no power, no water and no electricity due to broken water main, gas lines...etc.  Evrything in the house that was breakable..was broken. Several miles of the local coast rose up 4 feet out of the water...permanently.  We also live on the San Andreas fault...  but those quakes are just a fun ride in comparison. Laughable even.  I maintain that it is not the magnitude of the quake, but the type of fault and the duration of the quake that does the damage.  As well as the depth and the distance out to sea...I have pictures to prove it!
Also, it has to do with the ripple effect...  (like a stone being thrown into a pool).  Our house of same construction was affected...  but the neighbors 2 doors down or across town were not. . .
Also,(and I am no geoligist....)  but it has to do with substrate....  The devastating quake in Kobe Japan 20 years or so previously was because they built on landfill.  One must ask...what was the terrain of the earth beneath my home 200-1000 years ago?  In my case, it is ancient riverbed.... possibly sea bottom.
nothing but sand on a drum as they said about the Kobe quakes....They had no chance... .. much like the od Sunday school song about how the wise man built his house upon a rock... I am not religious at all.  . but I can tell you.. there is some basic wisdom to that song!
Interesting, eh?  stupid thing is. I still live here!

When you live in the Pacific Northwest and look out all of your windows of your home and see nothing but a beautiful  ragged skyline of fog shrouded Redwoods and firs rising to the skyline on clay cliffs with ocean fossils (12 miles as the crow flies inland, 2 hours otherwise)....  Well. . . anyone who has been to science class has to say...
UH..Oh!

I have ived through "Uh Oh"  And am looking into buying a Yurt for my back yard!

I felt the Northridge-Reseda one in Calif at 4am, and I was also sleeping in a water bed! My big dog jumped on it and all of this added to the quake effects for me.  I chose to move to Western, Wa. a few years later to get away!  Ha, we had one near Rainier area one morning.  I've come to respect Mother Earth and it's need to cleanse the pressures from time to time.  That is why everyone should have atleast a week's worth of food, water, medical and warm clothes, blankets and good walking shoes no matter where you live.  Never say never 'CHESTER in San Diego'--------don't think that anyone is immune from a quake.  Let me know how it is for you after you have had yours.  It's tragic and you feel totally helpless.  It humbles one.
The place to watch for the next "BIG ONE" is the roughly 100 mile stretch of the san andreas fault ,northwest of Los Angelos. The entire fault line, south, and north of this has had continuous small quakes, that relieve the stress, but the area I'm referring to, has had almost no such quakes for several years now. An enormous amount of stress has been building, and a major quake is due.  
Tim Rommes "Instead of waiting for a known fault in an area that builds up to a high magnitude to release on it's own is it plausible to drill down and set off a conventional explosive to slip the fault in a scheduled, "controlled" quake?"

Wasn't that tried in the James Bond 80's movie "A View to a Kill" with Christopher Walken  ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYebRhfDJs&feature=related

The problem is, that scenario is totally unpredictable. There is so much that isn't known
about the predictability of earthquakes, it's as unknown as firing a couple nukes at an asteroid and hope it blows up..
I live on the Oregon coast and have been following this closely. They went all over the coast a while back putting up signs "Now entering Tsunami Zone" and "Now Leaving Tsunami Zone". All the little towns wanted special Tsunami sirens to alert people when it was coming.
I figure that when you feel the 9.5 earthquake rattle your house into rubble, you might have a tsunami coming. (in voice of Jeff Foxworthy if you like).
Seriously though, they tell us that we will have 7-10 minutes to find high ground after the earth stops shaking and don't count on the roads still being there.  I tried it and that's not enough time so I'm screwed I guess.
When it happens Seattle could dwarf New Orleans in terms of mega disaster. Every coastal city could wash away.  
Do they still make Quaker Oats?
I am 65 and was born in Tacoma.  I have lived near the famous Mt Ararat in Turkey for 3 years.  I now live near Mt. Mazuma (excuse the Sp?) or Crater Lake as some know it.  Looking into the crater is quite inspiring.  But the ponderous thing for me is the current concept of the melting down of the ice off of Antartica and Greenland (and others) that will raise the level of the ocean ... indeed ... all of them by 4.5 feet.  Small item? maybe. But what if that is all that is needed to push the ocean plates down under the continental plates such as the Juan de Fuca and the others on this side of the Pacific.  If that is the piece of the puzzle that is missing in Analogies, well ... we are due and it is only about 3 years for that weight to be sufficient to cause this Continental plate that Seattle / Portland / San Fran Cisco et al to lunge Westward over it.  Mt Olympus that is on the Omlympic Penninsula of Washington is not a volcano but a high spot on the San de Fuca plate.  Still ... it pushed that far and will not deter the westward activity.  I was in the second eruption of Mt St Helens and I new Harry Truman's Brother in Law like a member of my family for 10 years before the occassion and even took him to visit Truman just a year or so before the Eruption.  Further I am a 6 year college man and have studied Environmental Geology ... yeah ... we live in interesting times to say the least and nothing happens that we do not deserve.  Even America believes in Torture now.  But I leave the Vote to God on all these issues.  I think we all kind of feel like its scientificaly and theisticaly over due.
  Finally, who is to say what happens once the continents start to move ... we assume that they will merely rock and roll for a few minutes but none of us seem to have claimed to be here when some of these multimillenial actions have taken place.  For some reason ... civilizations have risen and fallen almost universally maybe, and not on a few seconds here and then there and then squat for another 30 years everytime ... instead of moving multiple miles over a week of movement ... or more.  And you thought it would be miserable to endure 4 or 5 minutes of collapsing megastructures.  Imagine finally falling into the abyss to the west of us and then up the other side on a 2 week vacation.  And talk about the ring of fire!! - The time of year probably would not even matter.  "Volcano!" and such movies would have to take on a whole new concept.
  Adam and Eve may have to start all over again.  The Incas had an eye on these concepts and thought that some Ultra Gama Ray was going to kill us all off when we reach 2012 as our sun lines up on it in the Zodiac on that day.
  I would like to tell everyone what we should do to resolve it ... but no one would believe that either.
 Very good article ... I wondered if anyone besides me was paying attention
Im 22 and I live in los angeles CA and as a read this i cant help to think what would really happened if there was a big one... but what really scares me is that i have never had in mind buying a gun until recently that i saw what happened in New Orleans I just wouldnt like to be unprotected with no utilities or cellphone. I have always wanted to move but my family is here and I would take pride going down with them even if I knew it was coming.
The earth quake in Italy was accurately predicted. A geologist who declaried increased radon gas in the region of the earth quake was a sign that a major earth quake was imminent. This warning was dismissed by most of the scentific community and city officails. This has been given little attention by the media, or USGS. It seems that if an increase of radon gas which could be monitored would give us some warning that a seismic event was imminent, and a chance to warn people we should be racing to put radon gas monitoring equipment in every city on the west coastof the US. What would we be a down side too this, not much some funding, and a possibility of a false prediction resulting in lost revenue from evacutions. The up side could save thousands of lives. I hope this is not just dismissed as is commonly done by scentist who seem to be unable or unwilling to think outside the box if it challenges what the main stream scentific community accepts only tradition and recoginized or proven research.
"Instead of waiting for a known fault in an area that builds up to a high magnitude to release on it's own is it plausible to drill down and set off a conventional explosive to slip the fault in a scheduled, "controlled" quake?  A little shudder every decade instead of a major event every century."


You're not the first to suggest something like this (though the only scheme I know, involved pumping large amounts of water down to 'lubricate' the fault zone).

But even *if* it works, as what would then be a 'man-made' event, do you want to deal with the lawsuits that would follow even slight damage from a minor quake?

Attempts to modify weather carries similar issues. Increasing rain at A may decrease it too much it at B. (or vice versa) A hurricane in the Gulf that's steered away from, say, New Orleans has to come ashore *somewhere* else.

As long as events stay in the legal realm of 'acts of God,' well...good luck trying to sue God.

There seems to be an uptick in volcanic and earthquake activity lately.  The big one is coming.  The only question is if we will be able to give people any warning.
They should just create parachutes. One per person in any high rise building. When earthquakes hit, put one on and simply jump out the window! :)
Thomas, I'm not a big Bond fan but I'm willing to take your word.  I agree about the unpredictability, but I don't see it making things worse.  It may not help, therefore be a waste of time, money and explosives.  And with an asteroid coming, I'd be willing to fire off a few nukes on the hope that it might help.  As to your first comment, ya, you guys get all the cool, fossil rich shale.

Frank,
If the government does it it's a matter of imminent domain.  Then it's like trying to sue the government for a soldier's death in a war.
Even *if* it works ...  I was thinking more like Even *IF* it works.  Big difficulties placing the explosives without having them go off.  Perhaps that's why others looked at water.


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