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Maya myth revealed

Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:36 PM by Alan Boyle


Moises Castillo / AP
Idaho State University anthropologist Richard Hansen shows a 2,300-year-old
stucco frieze found at the El Mirador archaeological site in northern Guatemala.

Archaeologists have unearthed a pair of monumental stucco panels in Guatemala that appear to depict one of the New World's oldest-known creation stories, going back thousands of years to what experts call "the cradle of Maya civilization." The discovery suggests that the saga, known as the Popol Vuh, was a centerpiece of Maya beliefs for well more than a millennium and stands as one of the world's enduring religious stories.

The Popol Vuh chronicles how the Maya gods created the world and made several attempts to fashion people to live in it, including "mud people" and "wooden people" that didn't quite meet the grade. Finally, the gods got it right, creating the people who inhabited the urban site now known as El Mirador - where the panels were found - and the hundreds of thousands of acres comprising the Serpent Kingdom.

A Quiche Maya text of the Popol Vuh was found in the highland town of Chichicastenango in 1700 and transcribed by a Dominican monk named Francisco Ximenez. The saga's two main characters are the Hero Twins, named Hunahpu and Xbanlanque, who are sort of like a double dose of Hercules.

The 26-foot-long (8-meter-long) El Mirador panels were made of carved and modeled lime plaster, and lined a water collection system in a part of the city known as the Central Acropolis. They date back to the Late Preclassic period of Maya culture, which goes from about 300 B.C. to the early 1st century A.D., according to an account of the find from Idaho State University.


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The amazing thing about the panels is that they show a pair of swimmers, framed by cosmic monsters including an undulating serpent and an old-man deity with outstretched wings. Idaho State University's Richard Hansen, president of the Idaho-based FARES Foundation, said the swimmers appear to represent the fabled Hero Twins.

"One of the swimmers has a decapitated head on his flanks, which is likely the decapitated head of his father, who was known in Maya mythology as Hun Hunahpu," Hansen is quoted as saying in the university's account. The other swimmer wears a jaguar headdress, which would typically be associated with Xbalanque ("Young Jaguar Sun.").

"All in all, the scene is a complex blend of early Maya mythology and cosmology," Hansen said.

Hector Escobedo, Guatemala's vice minister of culture, said the find "suggests that the antiquity of the Popol Vuh as an authentic creation story extends far into the Preclassic eras." The find also adds to the importance attached to the Mirador Basin as a center of ancient Maya culture.

Hansen has been doing research for years in the remote Mirador Basin, which is at the center of a major forest conservation program established by the Guatemalan government. The Idaho researcher served as a consultant to actor/director Mel Gibson on the controversial movie "Apocalypto." And although that film is now far back on the DVD shelves, Gibson is still taking an interest in Mirador. Recently, he called the site "arguably the greatest archaeological find in the Western Hemisphere."

For more about Mirador, check out the Mirador Basin Web site.

Update for 10 p.m. ET: There's a lot of discussion in the comments below about the use of the word "myth" - in this context, I meant it in the same sense that one would talk about Greek or Roman myths. I've also reworded some references in this item just to avoid using the word "myth" over and over again.

Update for 11:55 a.m. ET March 13: I've added in the video about the find.

Update for 5 p.m. ET March 18: Here are some thoughtful observations from anthropologist/archaeologist James Q. Jacobs:

"I do not know who chose the title ['Maya Myth Revealed'], but I find it deceptive.  What is revealed is a physical object.  The 'myth' aspect is an interpretation based on writing from about 2,000 years later, and from a different location.  We do not even know if the same culture group was extant when the Popol Vuh was written.

"The huge distinction between evidence and interpretation is often overlooked in archaeology in favor of our myths about the past. Science writers can aid in elucidating this chasm, especially when the temporal gap is this immense."

I admit that I wrote the title. Although the archaeologists involved with the dig emphasized the Popol Vuh connection, Jacobs makes a good point that one (or two) stucco panels may not be enough to nail down that connection. Here's an article in which Jacobs discusses the bugaboos involved in intepreting ancient art.

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If we are truly lucky (and careful), science, research and critical thinking may save us from ourselves.
How cool!  I'm going to show this article to my middle school students.  We just learned about the different purposes that myths serve and I think they'll appreciate this.  Maybe they'll want to go and dig something up one day...  =)
It almost sounds like the Roman myth of Romulus and Remus but with angels and serpents instead of wolves and gods.
And of course the obligatory cheap shot at the "controversial" movie Apocalypto.

[ALAN ADDS: For what it's worth, I enjoyed the movie - setting aside the debate among anthropologists on how true to life it was.]
marvelous
Why are the cosmologies of various non-Christian religions, such as the Mayans, labeled "myths", but Book of Genesis never is?  Here, for example, is a piece of an article here about Christian creationists visiting the Smithsonian.

---hoping to strengthen his students' belief in a biblical view of natural history, even in the lion's den of evolution.---

Note the neutral word "view", not "myth".  Popol Vuh and the Book of Genesis are both fables, or myths, with equal (read "no") validity.
"If we are truly lucky (and careful), science, research and critical thinking may save us from ourselves."

   Not really.  Did science and critical thinking stop World War I or II?  Did they stop Vietnam?  In fact did they stop any war in the history of humankind?

   Science and critical thinking brought us the machine gun and poison gas and nuclear bombs.  Do you honestly think it's going to take us to a land of rainbows?

   Not that I am against correct science and correct critical thinking, but you have to be careful.  You can't avoid reality.  Science can be a victim of politics just like anything else.
I don't understand why this story of creation is a myth.  I am a Christian and believe in evolution, but would be offended if my religion were branded a "myth".  The Mayans would probably be equally offended to hear their beliefs called "myth".  Our beliefs have evolved along with our understanding of our universe and its origins, but we should still respect the beliefs of former civilizations and respect them in their effort to tell the story of their creation.  Don't trivialize that effort by calling it a "myth".
I also am a Christian and a believer in evolution.  I tend to define myth, as used in this context, as a "traditional story," instead of a "widely held, but false belief or idea."
as to what is called myth... all religeon is essentially based on myths and legends of verbal accounts and cannot be proven scientifically ( part of the whole "faith" part )in such a manner that there leaves no doubt.  And, yes, it does somewhat resemble the roman creation myth, that does not make it any less valid an interpretation of the tablets.  also, calling it a myth is not "trivializing" anything, that is your own interpretation of the word "myth".  since we have no native Mayans to interview and verify the interpretation of the tablets, we will never truly know without a doubt what the artist in question was trying to convey ( but i applaud the effort)

How do you base this find of 300 BC as the time of Christ's birth?

[ALAN ADDS: No, the experts are just saying that the Late Preclassic period goes from 300 B.C. to about A.D. 1. I'll try to revise the item to make that clearer.]

The Term "myth" seems to be made for this kind of story.

The term "myth" is used differently by different scholars and in different academic fields. In one of the broadest senses of the word, a myth is a traditional story.[6] However, most scholars define myth more restrictively. Specifically, in folkloristics, a myth is traditionally defined as "a sacred narrative explaining how the world and humankind came to be in their present form".[7] Some classicists argue that the category of myth should include non-sacred stories that do not explain the origins of the world. For example, the classicist Richard Buxton defines a myth simply as a "socially powerful traditional story".



I am interested in any new discoveries found among ruins of past cultures, especially the Mayans. I would also like to hear more about their calendar that ends on December 21, 2012, and how they got there, and why it also correlates with several other ancient cultures like the Chinese.
Its called a Myth because thats how Christians demonize all things not christian.I dont think you would find other religions calling it a Myth if it had been found by someone non christian.
Christians are afraid of anything that goes against thier beliefs, even if its not a threat to those beliefs.
This finding suggests another origan of man story that doesnt agree with the Christian one, so therefore it has to be labeled something less, something not believeable.
Though I generally avoid mentioning the content of article comments, and this is an excellent article on a subject of great interest, I feel it appropriate to point out that a Myth is not just a made up story.  A Myth is a special kind of story which acts as a container for greater truths, often (even usually) cosmological truths. Every Myth is true, if you understand what it really means. The Myths of every religion contain many truths and none are 'untrue', but almost all are little understood by most people. This includes the Mayan Myths, the Greek Myths, The Hindu Myths, the Buddhist Myths, and the Hebrew, Christian and Islamic Myths. Understanding Myths is important to understanding people's ways of thinking and ways of life.  It is a most rewarding area of study for those with the patience to peel back the layers. The similarity between some Mayan Myths and some Roman Myths is almost certainly no coincidence.  They both shared the same sky, after all.
Actually, MYTH does not trivialize anything, if it is understood correctly.  A myth is a story-telling pattern that pictures one reality by telling a story of another reality.  It is a fundamental in the way our minds function, and we use it all the time, from "team names" to philosophical constructs.  Multi-layer myths, politely called parables or revelations, are familiar to us all.  Consider Ezekiel and the valley of the dry bones - powerful and enabling myth - self-claimed!  In spite of the last century of usage, "myth" may ELEVATE rather than TRIVIALIZE.  It's not bad at all!

I'm a believer, too.  :)
themayans also said  th eworld will end in a few years,, wonder if they re right? i sur ehope so, good way to end the  housing and job market problems
Fascinating find! Hope they find more! Interesting similarities with the hero twins and Romulus and Remus from Roman history. Kind of makes a person wonder if there isn't an older culture still that could have influenced both cultures at one point with its own mythology. Funny how there are so many similarities with creation stories... Hesiod's "Theogony" with the biblical genesis creation myth with Hesiod's being the older of the two by a few thousand years. Really makes a person wonder if there wasn't one underlying culture at one point that could have influenced all these other cultures.  
this is a classical case of labeling any non-christian text as a 'myth' and trivializing the rich heritage and history of ancient cultures and civilizations. why, even a scientifically rich and deep faith like hinduism has been labeled a 'religion of myths' ... although ancient hindu scriptures are rich with mathematics, astrophysics, logic, philosophy, medicine, aeronautics(yes!), cosmology and rich sociology.
The art is fantastic.  It's so cool to see how ultra-stylized these Mayan designs were.
The difference between myths and religious teachings hinges largely on the number of current adherents of the religion to which the story is ascribed.  Thus we call the stories of bygone religions myths while those of active religions we do not.  For example, what we now call Norse Mythology was once part of a larger religious tradition.  However, since that religious tradition died out several hundred years ago, the stories that went with it have fallen into the category of myth as have the religious traditions of the Celts, Greeks, Roman, Egytians, Mezo-Americans, etc
I was fortunate enough to have visited El Mirador in 1979 before it was even noticed by most people. At the time I personally thought I had visited the center of the ancient world. It was a very dificult trip on foot from Carmelita Guatemala but well worth the effort. I for one am glad El Mirador is finally getting the recognition it deserves
  Dave
Alan:

I would not change one word.  In my humble opinion, doing so is tantamount to "confessing your sins" after being paid a visit by The Grand Inquisitor.

Your piece is not anti-religion or overtly dogmatic, it is the work of science, it is well written, and it is highly informative.

Well Done!

Congratulations on a marvelous find. The story behind it is fascinating and I'm anxious to hear more. I often think of the ancestors of many cultures took great care to leave us stories and messages about how they lived, so that we in the future would have reference to our beginnings. We need to do the same for future generations.
great point, Roger.....

Popul Vuh and the Book of Genesis have the same status: they're both myths, or comprehensive stories, that resonate with some people who use these stories to try to organize their reality.....

Very interesting. Is the world still going to end in 2012?
This is an interesting find. It really points to a universal theme of creation. This is pointing to one culture before some sort of dispersion across the entire earth. Even the symbols the Chinese language uses are founded upon the principles of creation. If you're a Christian, you'll view this similarity as pointing to the Tower of Babel were there was one culture. Then when the language was mixed up by God, the people dispersed. Over time the grape-vine effect happened and the different people groups twisted and corrupted the original story. Of course if you're an evolutionist Christian, you don't believe the Bible so you won't see it that way.
Why not just get comfortable with the broad meaning of the word "myth" and accept it applies to Chritianity, too.

myth   /mɪθ/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [mith]  Show IPA
–noun 1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
My only comment is to ask why, in today's "tolerant" society, is it okay to attack christian beleifs? It would be the end of the world to attack any other religion.  It seems that it is now acceptable to attack christian beliefs while accepting everyone else. Tolerance means being tolerant of all religions. Leave the Christians alone.
Thanks for all the thoughtful comment, very interesting.  I wish I had also added that it is a historic find and a great story, in spite of my comments on the title and my (probably self perceived) negative take on the word myth.
Myths are far from innocent; they are the most dangerous inventions of mankind. How else can we justify killing people who disagree with the myths we believe in? Or are our myths just an excuse that allows us to commit genocide when it is convenient do to so, when it serves our purposes? It allows us to enjoy the fruits of ancestors who committed atrocities in its name with a clear conscience if we think about the subject at all. Belief has a long and ignoble history.
Without religion, good people do good things, bad people do bad things. It takes religion to get good people to do bad things.
I recommend following the link to the whole text. You will find it fascinating in the sense as common myths o legends in different religions. Maybe as humans moved out of Africa they carried with them heir oral tradition, as groups got separated, they (the theocracy) added local or contextual elements to make then understandable to he general population. Language, living things and stories follow their own evoluion.
I did a report for college mythology that involved various current and ancient religions and I found that many of the creation stories were similar and that most of them had a story about a great flood. I hope the world doesn't end in 2012 I still have a lot of fun to have and we need to end on a good note anyways so something can find us later and say we were awesome
Thank you Brian from Indianapolis! What you said is so true. For the Christians that believe in Evolution you can not be a Christian and believe in Evolution. God created the world!
It never ceases to amaze me at the level of venom and hatred spewed toward those of us who are Christian simply because you who are not Christian choose to worship a different god. i.e. science and evolution. You always claim that Christianity is all fairy tales and make believe when you have no more of a clue than the next rock. I don't claim to know all the answers but I do know this, science has been trying for millenia to disprove my beliefs and has as of yet been able to disprove nothing. This does not prove my beliefs but then again it does prove that science doesn't have the answer either, so, why not quit telling me how wrong and stupid I am when you have no proof yourself? Most of the "proof" of evolution has been fascades put forth by hacks and shysters in an attempt to disprove God and Christianity, don't believe me? check your facts and you will find that most "factual" archealogical finds are massive efforts in guesswork and speculation. "Lucy" was a conglomeration of seven different finds (some of the bones were not even of primate origin) from different sites put together in order to "prove" a theory and yet the scientific community still touts this "find" as "proof" of their ideas, dispite being debunked even by many in the scientific community. So who is dealing in falsehoods? I'm not here to tell you that you are wrong, just that you show your ignorance when you claim knowledge you do not have. No one was there, and all the speculation in the world will never prove anything. My beliefs tell me that when I pass from this material world that all will be laid bare for me to see. On that day I will have all the answers I need. If I'm wrong I lose nothing, if you are wrong then I will weep for your lost soul.

God save us all,

MrEd
Actually, Mayans are still alive and kicking. Many even still speak the language. They just don't have the same lifestyle they once did. In fact, Mel Gibson used actual Mayans in his movie. Furthermore, they DO often help interprete ancient findings.

All you have to do is basic research on the Yucatan Penninsula to find this out.

Also, "myth" as defined by academic scholars:
~ a legend containing ascestors, heros, or supernatural phenomena that defines or perpetuates a worldview held by a particular group of people.\

It's not trivializing to call something a myth or mythical. In fact, using this terminology gives the person, place, or thing even more power.
If you tell someone about your summer vacation without any movies, photos, or some other material
proof that what you are saying is true, your story about the vacation is a myth.  I could say there is
at least one honest politician, but because it's impossible to get material proof of that, that statement is a myth.
This is the largest stone carving panel I have seen in this genre (Central and South America), and it will be fascinating to see the other panels . . .

And while it is not so clear which of the swimmers is shown in the photograph, I am not seeing anything that resembles a "decapitated head", so I am guessing that this particular panel shows the swimmer who is described as wearing a "jaguar headdress", which looks a lot more like an astronaut or diver's helmet, which if the front were enclosed in some type of glass, plastic, or force field might make a bit more sense than wearing an elaborate head covering of a large cat, since for the most part cats tend to avoid scuba diving, as best as I have been able to determine . . .

And then there is the matter of the device attached to the swimmer's waist, which certainly might be a underwater propulsion device with a tail type of extension that looks to undulate in much the same way as the legs of a swimmer doing the "Butterfly Stroke", where the general idea is to use the legs as if they were the tail of a dolphin or merperson . . .  

Basically, I am not getting strong "jaguar" clues from this particular panel . . .

Instead, I think that I am looking at some type of underwater swimming gear, which is pretty amazing, really . . .

On the other hand, perhaps it is a jaguar headdress, and the lower bits are a jaguar tail, which might make sense, but again one must wonder whether the jaguar hypothesis is the best fit for an underwater swimmer . . .

Mostly, what this tells me is that there must have been some superb coffee, herbs, and spices back in those days, as well as some amazingly motivated and highly skilled architects, engineers, and sculptors, as well as a stellar plan to encourage full employment and optimal enjoyment . . .

This is great stuff, without a doubt, and I want more of it, for sure . . .  

Thanks!

P. S.  The historical records of our planet often include more than little bit of allegory, which is something that artists and writers add to make it all the more fun, so in the grand scheme of everything, this is no less believable than an allegory about a fellow named "Jonah" (a) who was swallowed by a great fish and rode around for a while--three days and three nights to be precise--inside the stomach of the great fish, apparently without being digested, and (b) who for all anyone knows might have been inside a submarine from outer space, only to be rescued by the two Mayans described in the article, one of whom is shown in the photograph of the panel . . .

I have no idea, really . . .

Folks can call these stories whatever they desire, but overall they are allegories, and once you understand them, you discover that they are highly accurate visual representations of true events which actually happened somewhere in the continuum we colloquially call "spacetime" . . .


Scott from Canada.... and those interested in the subject of this article and in Biblical creation stories should obtain a used copy of Cyrus H. Gordon's Before Columbus.  Gordon points out interesting comparisons between Central American and Biblical Creation stories. He suspected communication if not actually commerce across the Atlantic.

And those interested in these Mayan twins will find they have double-doppelgangers in the Zuni creation stories collected and recorded by Frank H. Cushing.  Fortunately, this one is still in print:

http://www.amazon.com/Outlines-Creation-Myths-Frank-Cushing/dp/0548130523/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236917395&sr=8-6

There is a wonderful part of the story wherein the Twins premeditate the reasons for the violence they are about to inflict on the Earth.   And there are graphic descriptions of the consequences.  

If any party has made progress in decoding the physical reality behind stories such as these, I submit it is Mike Baillie from Queens University of Belfast Ireland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Baillie

See these books:

http://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Arthur-Catastrophic-Encounters-Comets/dp/0713486813/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236917724&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Celtic-Gods-Comets-Irish-Mythology/dp/0752434446/ref=pd_sim_b_3

Baillie points out the similarity between the Irish Cuchulainn and The Mayan Kulkulcan at which one must consider Brendan the Irish Monk who traveled across the pond in about 564 A.D. so shortly after the apocalyptic events in Ireland between 535 and 540 AD.    I propose a hybrid explanation involving comets and chaos on Earth around 540 A.D. (ala Baillie and McCafferty) followed by the visit of a gentle Christian missionary to the early Mexicans.  I think this is the easiest way to explain the mixtures of symbols and memories surrounding the legend of Quetzalcoatl.

Chapman, Paul H. The Man Who Led Columbus to America. Judson Press. 1973. ISBN 0914032011.



Its interesting to see people still believe in magic.  Nothing is got to happen on Dec 21 2012, other than baking Christmas cookies. Ancient cultures are filled with wonderful stories, but they had limited understanding of the world around them. Here we are, in the 21st century, truly able to understand some of the basic structures of our world and how they work...and still peoplewant to run away and embrace this doomsday 2012 prophecy. I guess it make there life more exciting...as if the wonders of science are not enough for them.
people relax, take it for what it's worth. It's expression of time gone bye. We will leave our mark. We all love to see how the people before us lived. It's like going into a very old house and ripping down the wall paper, layer by layer......
It's a wonderful find.  It's a sad reminder of how much was lost.  We could have learned so much.
The thing I find interesting is the similarities to the Navajo creation story with the hero twins and the several attempts before getting it right with humans.
As for the use of the word Myth I would like to refer everyone to the a scholarly tome co-authored by Robert Graves of Oxford university and Dr. Ralph Patai, chief rabinical scholar at Tel Aviv University.
Published in 1983, its title is Hebrew Mythology:The Book of Genesis. 1983, Greenwich House.
Brian is right, I see many intolerant statements against the Christian faith in this string.  Fascinating material in the article, inequitable comments following though.
Would you say all blacks are evil because you happen to have one that was pimping and dealing drugs? Of course not!  So why do you prejudicially assume that all Christians fit your narrow stereo-type? This knife cuts both ways.  Have you not now become the unjust judge that you presume to decry?  Where knowledge increases pain increases, but knowledge that is only built on pain cannot be considered to be moderate or just.  I'm sorry some Christian somewhere has offended you, but you are no better than they if you summarily dismiss all Christians on the basis of the acts and words of some.
Just wanted to mention somethings I saw above. I'm a christian and I want to state that the reason why we demonize beliefs against our own is because it is satan trying to pull us all away to the truth, which is Christ Jesus. Things like these religions, homosexuality, and other things against our beliefs are thoughts given to us by satan to lead us away from eternal life. And here is something for you, christianity is not a religion at all, but a relationship with our creator.
Ever notice that all these ancient religious 'myths' and folk lore and fairy tales are all about males?  Big, strong, omnipotent, omniscient males.  And the 'good' or 'saved' go to a lovely place called 'heaven' which is described as a 'kingdom', as in a 'realm' lorded over by a male king.  And all the 'sacred' writings are by and about males.  All the 'prophets' are males.  And the self-appointed 'priests' are all males.  And the 'gods' are usually some kind of all-powerful warriors.  What a scam.  And I'm a very 'male' male.  Beware all religionists and the stuff their selling.  Religion, the bane of civilization.  The sooner we get rid of it, the safer this planet will be for everybody.    
There've been a couple of references to Romulus and Remus in these comments.  Similarities between these and the Mayan Hero Twins are fleeting.  In point of fact, Hero Twin-type characters appear in many belief systems.  Their stories and their place in their respective belief systems differ widely.

If you are interested in the Popol Vuh, it is available on the web in an English translation.

As for the commenter positing astronaut or diver helmets, please look again, as the eye, nose and teeth of the jaguar are quite apparent.  Jaguar headgear is seen on many figures in Mayan carvings, both human and deity.  Read the Popol Vuh.  You'll find it fascinating.
"Did science and critical thinking stop World War I or II?  Did they stop Vietnam?  In fact did they stop any war in the history of humankind?"- Timothy

As a matter of fact, science did stop our war with Japan during WWII. Have you forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Sometimes I am puzzled by the animus between "science" and "religion" and the imagined enmity between their respective proponents. Both are phenomenological expressions of what is. To say that believing evolution and the Bible are mutually exclusive is puzzling. Equally puzzling is the idea that science has much to say about the person of God. What is fascinating to me about this find is the potential avenues of phenomenological analysis exist in these finds and their stories. Mythology, history, anthropological, and so on. The one that most fascinates me is the similarities between "first things" stories. I think it is a mistake to attempt to attribute the similarities to an Irish monk. There is a unifying commonality to the human existence that is worth reflection from many phenomenologies.


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