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Hollywood remakes an alien

Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:20 PM by Alan Boyle


20th Century Fox
A crowd gathers around the "Central Park Sphere" in a scene from "The Day the
Earth Stood Still," a remake of the classic 1951 movie about alien visitation.

Although the modern-day reincarnation of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" may not rise to the classic status of the 57-year-old original, it fortifies the science-fiction story with some fresh science facts.

The original 1951 movie was a black-and-white, Space Age parable about a planet in peril ... from the potential threat of nuclear war. Calling the movie a "parable" is particularly apt, because veiled allusions to the Christ story are shot through the tale about an alien visitor (Klaatu, played by Michael Rennie) who brings a message of peace and unity to a world riven by the Cold War.

The new "Day," opening Friday with Keanu Reeves as Klaatu, preserves the basic story of an alien with a mission who comes down to Earth. This time, however, the mission is not to keep earthlings from trashing the celestial neighborhood, but to keep humans from trashing Earth.

"We can't risk the survival of the planet for one species," Klaatu explains in the film.

Will the remake's environmental message resonate the way the original film resonated for an earlier generation? "I can't think about this movie having long-term impact in the way that the original did," Scott Derrickson, the director of the new "Day," told me this week. "If it did, I'd be shocked."

Like the first "King Kong," the first "Day" was such a classic that it couldn't possibly be matched, "even if you make a perfect film," he said. That's the big reason why he was reluctant at first to take on the project.

He changed his mind, however, after reading the script, which recast the 57-year-old story from a 21st-century perspective.

"What I tried to do was take a picture of this moment in time. ... What that moment seemed to be is that we're living in an age where we've made quite a mess of things: the war, the economy, the planet, this thing that keeps us living," he said.

And yet, Derricksen said, humanity seems to do its very best when things are at their very worst. That's when people somehow find a path to change they can believe in. "I wanted to make a film about that reality, that the precipice of disaster is sometimes the very place where transformation takes place," he said.

That doesn't mean the new "Day" is purely a message movie. "My first job is to entertain," Derrickson said. To do that job, he built in plenty of breakneck chase sequences, big explosions and woo-woo special effects. No one will mistake the movie for a philosophical treatise - or a science documentary, for that matter. But when possible, Derrickson tried to have the movie reflect what scientists have learned about the cosmic frontier over the past half-century.

"We went through a tremendous amount of effort to root the science of the movie in real science, and also to pay particular respect to the profession of science," he said.

Derrickson's main ally in that effort was Seth Shostak, senior astronomer at the California-based SETI Institute. Shostak was brought in as an adviser because the film's leading actress, Jennifer Connelly, plays the role of an astrobiologist - and wanted to learn more about what such scientists really did.

Shostak said he was impressed by Connelly's interest, and by the fact that an Oscar-winning actress was cast as an expert in a scientific discipline that is still building up its credibility. "How many movie characters can you name who were astrobiologists?" Shostak asked during an interview this week. "I think Jennifer Connelly might be the first."

Eventually, Derrickson asked Shostak to look through the script and mark anything that didn't ring true to a scientist's ear. He got back a sheaf of papers that were covered with red marks. "So I told him, 'Can you fix it, please ... and stop being so condescending,'" Derrickson joked.

Not all of the suggestions were taken, a fact of life that Shostak accepts. "It's Hollywood," he told me. "Their job is not to teach you science." However, there are a few scientific riffs worth paying attention to: 

  • Real astrobiology: The dialogue for Connelly's first scene, which is set in a Princeton classroom, was rewritten to reflect questions that astrobiologists might actually consider: For example, which microbe would be more likely to live on Callisto, one of Jupiter's ice-covered moons: radiation-hardened Deinococcus radiodurans, or a type of thiobacteria that can survive in sulfuric acid? (I'd go with the first choice on Mars, and the second choice on Europa or Venus. But Callisto? Feel free to weigh in with your space-geek selection below.)

  • Real nanotechnology: One of the threats that comes up in the movie is a variation of a standard nano-doomsday plot device known as "gray goo": the ability of fictional nano-bugs to swarm over their target and turn it into ... another swarm of nano-bugs. The late author Michael Crichton used this in one of his sci-fi novels, "Prey" - and although that book was never made into a movie, "Day" provides the next best thing in nano-meltdowns. Could it really happen? Almost certainly not the way Crichton imagined it. Nevertheless, experts have voiced concern about nano-safety as recently as this week.

  • No flying saucers: The original "Day" indelibly imprinted the flying-saucer image on a generation of UFO fans. The metallic, engine-driven spaceship became a cliche of outer-space operas, ranging from "Star Trek" to "Star Wars" to "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." For his new "Day," Derrickson wanted to create a totally different kind of UFO: Klaatu and his pals come to Earth in shining lights that look like globes of swirling clouds when they come to rest. "I love the idea of trying to create an alien spaceflight technology that came from an entirely different place," Derrickson said.

  • Real equations: Shostak said one of the most important things he did was to check the equations that Klaatu writes on a blackboard for a Nobel-winning professor (played in a cameo by "Monty Python" veteran John Cleese). "The equations there are in fact some of the fundamental equations of general relativity, but what happens is that Klaatu adds another term which might account for dark energy," Shostak explained. "We don't know what that term is, but he does. ... Klaatu establishes his creds by showing that he knows more about general relativity than we do."

In his Space.com tale about being on the set, Shostak recounts how he told Derrickson that Keanu Reeves seemed to be writing the equations too slowly on the board. The way Shostak told the story, Derrickson answered that Reeves was doing it just right for the role. "Hey, Seth, he's an alien," Shostak quoted him as saying.

For the record, Derrickson told me he doesn't remember making that crack but was happy with the way the scene turned out. He was also happy with the contribution that Shostak made to the movie.

"It was a big lesson to me on the science front," he said.

For his part, Shostak hopes "The Day the Earth Stood Still" will leave young viewers yearning to learn more about life on Earth and beyond. Some of them may end up starring as astrobiologists in a real-life sequel.

"The thing I would tell schoolkids is, 'You know, there are actually people who make a modest living studying the possibility of life beyond Earth," he said.

Update for 9:35 p.m. ET: To mark the opening of the new "Day," Twentieth Century Fox has arranged to have the whole movie transmitted via a 5-meter dish antenna (the kind used for TV uplinks) in the direction of the nearest star system, Alpha Centauri.

The transmission will be made by Florida-based Deep Space Communications Network, a commercial venture that has been sending signals spaceward for more than three years. (One of their previous clients was Craigslist.)

"We are thrilled about beaming this film into space," Jim Lewis, the venture's managing director, said in a news release. "This will be our first full-length movie transmission. And what could be more relevant to send into deep space than a movie about the earth's acceptance of visitors from outer space?"

Deep Space says the transmission is due to begin at noon ET Friday, but don't expect a film review from the Centaurians anytime soon. The triple-star system is four light-years away, which means it would be four years before anything could possibly reach Alpha Centauri.

In fact, SETI experts say it's unlikely that a decipherable signal will ever get that far. Shostak has looked into how far radio signals of various strengths could carry into deep space, and his conclusion is that TV transmissions would be drowned out by static long before they get to Alpha Centauri. Tightly focused military radar signals might carry farther, but the Pentagon has no plans to air the matinee.

This has led NBC News space analyst James Oberg to call Twentieth Century Fox's transmission "a publicity stunt" based on "claims about interstellar communication that are really technologically strained, if not entirely bogus."

A publicity stunt? Hatched in Hollywood? Who knew!

Update for 8 p.m. ET Dec. 12: Our review of the new "Day" is out, and if Gort the robot enforcer really existed, he'd be seeing red right about now. Great headline, though: "Klaatu Barada Stinko."


To keep up with Shostak's quest on the scientific frontier, tune your Web browser to his weekly radio show, "Are We Alone?"  Shostak stars in a Cosmic Log pilot podcast we put together last year. You can also click through our list of six signs that aliens might exist, and watch interviews with Keanu Reeves from NBC's TODAY Show and from "Access Hollywood."

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Great, another tree hugger sci-fi trying to hang off of a classic.  This sucks!  Hope Gort pays the good director an unfriendly visit!
chances of life = hunderds of billions of galaxies * hundreds of billions of stars * hundreds of billions of planets

you can not tell me that out of all those planets, not one has life on it..

Lets say there are 100 billion galaxies with 100 billion stars with 100 billion planets at least,

your talking about the universe having atleast 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets which i suppose have atleast one form of life.
Nobel Prize for biological altruism...  That is the award John Cleese's character has won in the movie. Who the heck is this guy that wrote this crap? AlGore's dedicated henchman?

Sorry but I am not wasting my time on a 2+ hour Public Service Announcement.
omg, idiot conservatives already bashing this as a "liberal" movie.. give me a break, if there's any issue other than nuclear war that could end our planet, that we have control over, it's climate change, and the pollution of our planet.. It makes perfect sense that this is what this alien comes to warn us about.
Faster Than Light Travel does not violate relativity; look at paper from 1994 by Alcubierre, and Paper: FIELD DEPENDENT PROPULSION SYSTEM, by Alan C. Holt (NASA, AIAA) and a paper on FTL, by HD. Froning (NASA).Contact from some human and non-human races has occurred for many decades between our government, and many human and non-human ET societies. This has been kept above TOP secret to protect the Fossil-Fuels industris, and energy-industries. Free-energy from vacuum (Vacuum is pure massless-CHARGE) and field-effect propulsion has been ruthlesssly suppressed despite being discovered and invented in many countries for the better part of a century. Rocetry is obsolete, and has been so for 80-years. We shall NEVER go far in space as a species if we depend of rocketry and internal combustion and heat-energy for energy and  propulsion.SETI is a joke. Bilogical-signals that travel many-times in excess of the speed of light have been detected. Radio may not be an ideal form of communication for other cultures!Scalar-waves  (Tesla-wave) have many advantages over radio, chief of which is they can travel at any spped, to infinite velocity depending on modulation. We now know of over 300 extra-Solar Worlds. administration with NO ties to Big-Oil. The beginning of clean energy and propulsion, that will take Earth-Humans to the stars, this century.
From what I've seen in trailers, it is more tree hugger, instead of the message of peace, but with the original title. I wonder if the people of Alpha Centuri will like it when it gets there in 4.3 years.
There is no doubt about the existence of aliens from other planets, the problem is we humans are still in diapers in exploration and mechanical artifacts that would take us to such planets. Our spaceships are still to slow to reach any of the planets in existence. If we could harness the energy of light and use it for travelling purpose, then there might be a possibility of finding these so distant planets.
Imagine a race of beings a million years older than us, we had computers for what 30 years i wonder what they would have. be able to bend time, space, worm holes , The astronauts saw UFOs in the 60"s i guess they were lying too.
Yes we won the lottery, and we have exploited our planets wealth just like lottery winners do today!

When, if? the idea of 'save the planet, save the people', evolves... the next generation will forget the lessons all too soon and figure out some way to send the planet into a Venus state. (Talk about global warming!)

Soap boxes we dont need, more exposure thru mainstream media, TV shows could do a lot to further our planets survival. Instead of violence, entwine good habits with bad, show how people change, put some hope back in front of people!!! Yes there is a lot of bad, but bad fosters bad, cause its COOL to be bad. You want cool, go put your head under a fire hydrant in NY city, when the temperature reaches 105 degrees!

Spare the rod, spoil the child, Hide the truth, kill the messenger, Raise your voice, save the planet.
I find it really hard to understand that anyone could really believe that with all of the planets and stars in the universe we are the only world where a 1 cell microbe developed into the human form.  Talk about arrogance.  There are worlds that are millions of years older than us.  Look what we have accomplished in the last 100 years.  Where will we be able to go in the next 1000 years.  What makes you think they haven't already accomplished that?  We should be so lucky that they would be willing to give a chance to change our ways.  There is little in our history as a world that does not have war as it basis.  We do not respect life, we do not respect the enviroment, we are intolerant of each others religion.  It has been in the history of our world, "My way or the Highway".
Why shouldn't someone else come in here and treat us with the same disregard.

Jeffcoduke.
Eeegad!  The pre-release hype has ruined what to expect for me. I feel I've seen 1/2 the movie already Alan!  The sphere idea has been used a few times by Hollywood. Infact there was even an SF movie called  "Sphere" !  

I highly doubt Gort and Klaatu live 250 million miles away in this incarnation.
There's another idea that says while there may be billions and billions of possible civilizations their times of existence may not coincide, so that chances for an encounter may be slim.
Can't we just enjoy movies for the sake of enjoying movies without bringing in all the political, scientific feasability and what not.  
Viktor Schauberger wrote:
"Contact from some human and non-human races has occurred for many decades between our government, and many human and non-human ET societies. This has been kept above TOP secret to protect the Fossil-Fuels industris, and energy-industries. Free-energy from vacuum (Vacuum is pure massless-CHARGE) and field-effect propulsion has been ruthlesssly suppressed despite being discovered and invented in many countries for the better part of a century."

Yo, Viktor! Don't bogart the joint, man.
The immense number of stars in the infinite universe makes the chances of intelligent life evolving elsewhere an absolute. In fact, it likely has happened many millions of times over the 14 billion or so years since the big bang. And with all these examples of intelligent life, it stands to reason that every possible technology has been discovered many times over.

It therefore stands to reason, though, that if faster than light travel were possible, many millions of species would already have achieved it and spread throughout the universe. The very fact that we are not the slaves of evil galactic overlords proves that faster than light travel is not possible. Every intelligent species in the universe is just like us, doomed to gaze forever at the stars and wonder.
a)The Presidents UFO Web Site - A Tale of Extraterrestrial Politics in the White House:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/10/presidents-ufo-web-site.html
b)Mikhail Gorbachev and UFOs. Mikhail Gorbachev was the first and the last national leader who acknowledged the issue of unidentified flying objects in Russia. Full story:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/11/mikhail-gorbachev-and-ufos.html
c) 2012" Film: Roland Emmerich and NASA:
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1108/emmerich.html
d) The Day After Tomorrow movie and the Pentagon:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/10/pentagon-warns-climate-change-will.html
e)Secret UN Meetings on ET Life Continue:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/10/secret-un-meetings-on-et-life-continue.html
f)BBC:Report on Possible Alien Invasion - Planet X:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/10/bbc-report-on-possible-alien-invasion_24.html
g)Planet X - Classified Information:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2008/12/planet-x-classified-information.html

In the original sci-fi story, Farewell to the Master, the Robot was reveiled to be the boss in the end! Take that, Gore-ites! And shoot the hostage...
last of negative science fiction making.  it's a new era for positivity.
Just let your imagination wonder if your in school at any grade level.
It is a movie and should be thought of as so. Like it or not, good or bad just try to be entertained.  Why so serious about it all. Time to relax for an hour or two with your favorite person or friend etc...cPg
Re the transmission stunt, the backyard antenna is going to be turned on and pointed to the sky -- when Alpha Centauri isn't even visible [it's rarely above the horizon from Florida, ever]. The references to a facility "on Cape Canaveral" misleads many into thinking it's a big NASA dish -- instead of somebody's backyard money-making gadget. The press release gives a list of signal arrival times at various planets, all mathematical gobbledegook designed to impress the impressionable. From such clues you can figure out who the movie and its promotion are aimed at. If you like being in that category, by all means, enjoy.
Remakes are always horrible.  I'll bet the new Goonies movie will be a bust, too.
In today's super-political culture, you can't make a movie that has "climate change" in the plot and not have it become political.  It is such a devisive topic that you know it will become a lightning rod for discussion.  It doesn't help that the idea of "climate change" or "global warming" or whatever it is called now has become a religion for some people.  Remember, you can attack Christianity and Christians all you want, but if you say anything bad about "climate change" or Al Gore, you are denounced as stupid and a Republican.
Assuming the universe is indeed infinite in size (I tend to believe it is, but it may never be possible to know for sure), then yes, you would have an infinite number of chances for any given scenario with even a very slim possibility, which means there is an infinite number of intelligence civilizations "out there" right now.  That only stands to reason.

That said, I doubt very strongly mankind will ever encounter them.  The odds of a living system spontaneously forming from non-living molecules are unlikely in the extreme (according to our current knowledge of abiogenesis).  It's the equivalent of putting a random assortment of engine parts in a bag, giving it a shake, and ending up with a car.  Miller-Urey experiments have shown long ago that these parts can form spontaneously (amino acids, phospholipid micells, nucleic acids, etc.), but after that you have the immense unlikelyhood of these parts coming together in such a way that it is capable of replicating itself using materials from its environment and maintaining at least some semblance of homeostasis.  Sure, after that, natural selection works its magic (making the leap from life to intelligent life essentially negligible compared to the leap from non-life to any kind of life).

Further evidence is that, although conditions on Earth were ideal for the formation of life for a few billion years, by all evidence, we have yet to find a living thing that can't trace its ancestry back to a single cell.  In other words, for all that time, by all current evidence, life only occured on Earth one time.

Because of these astronomically miniscule odds, it seems doubtful to me that there is any life at all to be found in the "observable" universe, and even if there was (a scenario I only consider because the observable universe is so large), such life would almost certainly be far, far, far further away than 200 light years, which about the furthest our radio emissions could have traveled by now to announce our location.
Just to follow up my previous post,

I actually am a biologist doing some research on nanotechnology.  The idea that such things could cause a "nano-doomsday" or become self-replicating is ludicris and irresponsible.  They are, however, fascinating materials due to their conductive properties as well as being highly resilient and light.
  "Hey Scottie, get me out of here, the locals put political labels on the vid movies, with religious overtones, very primitive emotions. Lets keep an eye on them from the orbit of their 5 th planet."
"if there's any issue other than nuclear war that could end our planet, that we have control over, it's climate change"

So we can control the increasing heat of the Sun, the amount of cosmic rays that hit the Earth, the shift of the magnetic poles, ...?
Alan wrote:

Update for 9:35 p.m. ET: To mark the opening of the new "Day," Twentieth Century Fox has arranged to have the whole movie transmitted via a 5-meter dish antenna (the kind used for TV uplinks) in the direction of the nearest star system, Alpha Centauri.

If the movie is eventually viewed on some distant planet inhabited by an advanced warrior race with Faster Than Light capabilities, let’s hope they don’t think it’s a “how to” documentary…

I'd like to see "This Island Earth" remade. They could offer interocitors for Christmas.
In contrast to other people here, I am looking forward to seeing this film. Yes, it could be just a big PSA, but come on: nanotechnology, astrobiology.... if the producers and directors hatched the basic premise of the movie right and based the movie on the fundamental principle of NOT being a remake, but a movie in its own right, then I think it might just turn out okay.

Recently, movies similar to this have been kind of crappy - too much reliance on CGI and really bad special effects. I'm hoping this one has a good plot, non-cheesy dialogue, and believable special effects. That's all I can ask for.

I plan to see it this evening, so if I get the chance, I may post a short review here.
All I can say is that I am 63 years old and I can still remember Michael Rennie saying Klaatu, Barrata Nikto to Patricia Neal......and Gort carrying her into the space ship - it was a simple movie, but had a powerful message...had to be the best sci-fi I ever saw...........and we had tons of them when I was a kid back in the 50's.
People it's a movie, you know make believe, play time.
Kind of like left and right wing politics. Get a life
Shaussbot nanunanu.
Those who think that technologically capable extra-terrestrials exist should not expect to ever meet one. It is likely that no more than 3 such civilizations would be contemporaneous within our own galaxy and chances of finding them are minute.  I recommend reading "Rare Earth," by Ward Brownlee, to anyone who is seriously interested in these matters.
>>(I'd go with the first choice on Mars, and the second choice on Europa or Venus. But Callisto? Feel free to weigh in with your space-geek selection below.)


Talking about life on Mars, Europa or Venus has been done to death in several Movies and TV shows.   Callisto is a planetary body that most people haven't heard of so it brings in a fresh, new perspective.

[ALAN ADDS: Yes, but you're avoiding the question   ;-)   If you were going to get something growing on Callisto, would you go with the radiation-hardened microbe or the sulfuric acid-eating microbe?]
To Cobra, Bucharest, Romania.

You people and your stupid conspiracy theories.
A bunch of URL's, all pointing to your own blogspot, hardly counts as evidence to anything.  [...]
I want to see this movie because I enjoy sci-fi in general.  I have to say that I prefer shows that don't have a strong moral message, but rather are primarily just trying to entertain.  I'll reserve judgement on this one until I have seen it.

Of course, fiction that can be seen as having a basis in reality is usually more engaging because it is more believable.  I have to say that the premise of this movie, if I've got it straight, that an alien race would come to Earth and eliminate humans to save the rest of the biosphere, is extraordinarily difficult to visualize.  Why would they care?  I agree with the idea of millions of planets in the universe, so who would notice the garbage on ours?  It is far more believable that a race would recognize a struggling intelligent species and offer to help them (the original movie) to save themselves, and maybe not to become a threat to the 'neighborhood'.  Anyway, my two cents.

PS:  Viktor, I'd ask your shrink to increase the dosage on your medication.  What you are taking now is clearly not strong enough.
Soon, VERY soon, we *will* get a visit from a huge number of beings, from far away, it will be like a million atom bombs when they arrive, yes, it will be Jesus Christ (He is God) and the huge army of holy angels with Him, He is coming to Judge the Earth, including silly "scientists" ( so-called ) that will face His Judgment!!!! Look for ME when this happens, I'll be right beside Jesus, there WITH Him!!!!

The Prophet,
Alpha and Omega Ministries
Morganton,
NC, USA




 
good comments on this. as was postulated by senor kevin, life has to be out there by sheer mathematics alone, however, you must take into account that not only are we talking about incredible distances but the pictures we see from hubble,etc is not a "realtime" image but rather looking back in time. those galaxies probably do not appear that way or may have even merged with other galaxies by now. possible civilizations there may have come & gone. if they are capable of ftl travel, they may have missed us altogether. imagine this, hold your arms straight out and think of the length as the age of the universe. our entire existence would comprise what you would clip off of one of your middlefingernails. that leaves a huge amount of time that we were never here. they could've visited the dinosaurs and then forgot about this little rock. "no sentient,intelligent beings here, let's move on." i do believe we're not alone, we're just too far away.
Its funny how people talk about the big bang and string threory like its a fact "when the big bang happened". Just like global warming, and the ozone layer.

My simple theory is.. just as a human breathes, and the lungs exhale and inhale, which creates expansion and contraction... this is also true to the planet and the galaxy and the universe. The universe may be expanding, but we dont know how long it has been doing that, so to say its always been doing that is a premature assumption.

Who knows... maybe in 1mil years, it will start contracting.

Big Bang is a thoery... just like gravity... lets remember that.
Aliens that can receive a TV broadcast and understand it would most certainly have to be much further advanced than we are.  So when the aliens receive that TV broadcast in 4 years, they'll look at one another and ***Laugh their heads off*** or whatever their emotion for humor might be if they even have heads.  
blades, when a piano falls out a 3rd story window over your head one rapidly analyses the theory of gravity and decides the optimum choice of action is to MOVE!   Timing is everything and working to restrict pollution of everything from CO2 to heavy metals, simple and complex hydrocarbons, medical waste and hormone leachate, are achievable goals which will directly benefit the health of the human race.
I totalay agree with Tony from Tucson, IT'S A MOVIE! EJNOY NOT DISECT.
Jeepers.  Let's not overthink this.  It is a SCI-FI movie, not a dissertation....  Simple message.  Bad guys, good guys.  KR is not MR.
One of the other readers commented about reaching the speed of light in order to travel to the stars.  Imagine that even traveling at that speed we would never be able to leave our own Galaxy.  To get from one end of our Milky way Galaxy to the other end  would take roughly 100 thousand light years.  That means traveling at the speed of light, it would still take us 100 thousand years to do it.  And that's just an inkling of the vastness of space.  
Why doesn't someone make a "new" science fiction movie like my book "Inheritors of the Earth". I think people are ready for a new story. It's a science-fiction, time travel, fun adventure. I love them, but I have to admit, I am getting a little tired of sequels and remakes. Come on Hollywood, give me a chance!
if we all hug a couple of trees, maybe we'll still have some at the end of the century.
I think the question of other life in the universe shouldn't be one of where, but when. Sure, there could potentially be trillion upon trillions of planets that exist in the universe, but adding the variable of time creates more problems. The probability that another lifeform exists within the time of the human race, is something a lot of people overlook. Deducing from our own existence, one could postulate that the timeframe it takes for a lifeform to evolve into an intelligent one on any given planet takes several million years (ie: amoeba->dinosaurs->ape men->humans). Again using our own human existance as the only example, it seems that before the intelligence needed to utilize light, or zero-point energy, comes into a society, they would probably have already killed themselves off through war.
Plus is notorious that the Universe was created only 6000 years ago and that everything rotates around Earth because so says the Bible.

Hell is right below Jerusalem where Dante placed it and Purgatory is somewhere down under. Also Paradise (Heaven) is right beyond Saturn.
Why can't Hollywood do a remake by sticking with the intent of the original screenplay, instead of mucking it up with their own controversial political idealisms. How disappointing and tedious.
I will probably go see the movie this weekend.  But my guess this will be another case of hollywood taking a classic, adding a ton of wonderful special effects, and making a horrible movie.  The original was hardly a big budget spectacular (Gort's disintegration ray was probably the height of EFX for the time, however.)  But hollywood will through a ton of money on this project and the story-telling will be horrible compared to the original.
Hey Alan,
What's wrong with Callisto? Europa is admittedly more enticing, but at least the rads on Callisto won't kill our probes stone dead. The ocean generating the intrinsic field can't be too far down or else there'd be no currents induced in it by Jupiter.
Commenting back on what *robbie withey new bern,nc*, it is true that we see things in the sky that were millions of years older, but considering the fact it took our species that amount of time to evolve... something's gotta give, optimistically proposing! So with that, how we do know that life elsewhere hasn't evolved like we once did. We may never see it, but I'm pretty sure else is our there trying find beings other than them :D!


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