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Cat vs. dog evolution

Posted: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:00 PM by Alan Boyle


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A cat and a dog come face to face during a Blessing of the Animals
ceremony at Washington National Cathedral in October 2006.

When it comes to pursuing prey, dogs do it much more efficiently than cats. So do humans, for that matter. The fact that cats are generally considered better hunters shows that evolution doesn't always favor efficiency. It all depends on what kind of niche a species can carve out for itself.

"It is usually assumed that efficiency is what matters in evolution," Daniel Schmitt, an evolutionary anthropologist at Duke University, said in a news release about the latest dog vs. cat research. "We've found that's too simple a way of looking at evolution, because there are some animals that need to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency."

Take cats, for example. Schmitt and his colleagues videotaped six housecats (Felis catis) as they moved along a 6-yard-long runway in pursuit of food treats or toys. Then they analyzed the biomechanics of their gait in detail.

The results, published Nov. 26 in the open-access journal PLoS ONE, show that cats could reduce the muscular work required to move forward by no more than 37 percent as they pursued their "prey." In a stalking posture, the cats' efficiency was even worse.

Dogs and other species that specialize in long-distance chases can run much more efficiently, reducing their work by up to 70 percent. The researchers surmised that the feline hunting style - used by a housecat stalking a bird, or a cheetah stalking an antelope in the wild - trades off efficiency for stealth.

"These data show a previously unrecognized mechanical relationship in which crouched postures are associated with changes in footfall pattern, which are in turn related to reduced mechanical energy recovery," the researchers wrote.

When a cat slinks close to the ground, it moves its front and back ends in a relatively inefficient, self-canceling pattern that results in a smooth, flowing forward motion, Schmitt said. "If they're creeping, they're going to put this foot down, and then that foot down, and then that one, in an even fashion. We think it has to do with stability and caution," he said.

Humans vs. cats vs. dogs
Previous research has shown that humans are even better than dogs or cats at long-distance runs. In fact, Harvard anthropologist Daniel Lieberman and his colleagues have argued that the human body (with our hairless skin and sweat glands, our springy tendons and twistable torso) is uniquely suited to long-distance running under conditions that would give other animals heat stroke. That's why we're the only animals that voluntarily run marathons.

Such findings mesh with Schmitt's research into the origins of human bipedalism.

"It was only a little more than a million years ago that we developed the long-legged, striding gait in which we exchanged energy efficiently," he told me today. "Our early ancestors, 3 million years ago, walked along like apes with their knees bent, and they weren't able to exchange energy."

The news that there was a hunting-related category where dogs did better than cats came as a bit of a surprise to Leslie Lyons, an expert on cats at the University of California at Davis. "Actually, I find that kind of interesting," she told me.

But she still thinks cats hold the edge in all-around hunting skill. "Overall, they've fine-tuned their system," she said.

Are cats a breed apart?
What's not surprising is that dogs and humans are more alike in their hunting style than cats and humans would be. DNA analysis has shown that dogs and humans have co-evolved for tens of thousands of years - while cats appear to be more recent companions for the human species.

"We can somewhat argue that cats are in the domestication process right now. ... Definitely the cat domestication process is more recent, occurring once agriculture got started, maybe 8,000 to 10,000 years ago," Lyons said.

Cats are definitely a breed apart when it comes to running, Schmitt said. Most other species appear to have undergone selection for a style of locomotion that favors low-oxygen consumption and low energy use for high-yield movement. "We thought cats would be the same, but we saw that they were sacrificing this to be stealthy," he said.

Schmitt emphasized that he and his colleagues weren't trying to set off a cat vs. dog controversy ... although that kind of debate always draws a crowd. "What really excited us about this paper is less the cat vs. dog angle, but more the idea that animals need to make compromises," Schmitt said.

Feel free to weigh in on the issues raised by evolutionary biology in the comment section below. And if you want to argue over which is better, cats or dogs, I won't stop you.


The lead researcher and first author for the study in PLoS ONE is Kristin Bishop, a former postdoctoral researcher at Duke who is now at UC-Davis. The other authors are Schmitt and Anita Pai, a former Duke student who is now a medical student at Vanderbilt University.

To learn more about the faculties of felines, check out this article about the decoding of the cat genome, and this one explaining why cats probably can't taste sweets. You can also click your TV onto the National Geographic Channel to watch "Science of Cats" (airing Dec. 23) and "Science of Dogs" (airing Jan. 4).

Update for 5:50 p.m. ET: My colleague on msnbc.com's multimedia team, Jim Seida, pointed me to Scott Carrier's classic audio tale on "This American Life" about his years-long effort to run down an antelope (along with his biologist brother). The quest was aimed at proving experimentally that primitive humans could do it - and proving something else that was less scientific and more spiritual. The story spawned a book titled "Running After Antelope."

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even the nastiest dogs are afraid of cat scratches to the eyes...kittys win...day-glo, or not...
Doggy-woggies are better.
I can't tell if Schmitt is hyping or merely ignorant when he says that

"It is usually assumed that efficiency is what matters in evolution," Daniel Schmitt, an evolutionary anthropologist at Duke University, said in a news release about the latest dog vs. cat research. "We've found that's too simple a way of looking at evolution, because there are some animals that need to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency."

Who makes that assumption?  Would Schmitt care to document it?  Who hasn't been aware for decades that evolution involves trade-offs?  This is another example, a nice example to be sure, but not the kind of breakthrough finding that Schmitt's quotation seems to imply.

And Schmitt's use of "need" in that remark is strange.  Cats don't "need" to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency; rather, they have evolved hunting adaptations that involved operating (briefly) at a gait of low efficiency, but that are apparently productive (and efficient?) with respect to obtaining food.  That's the real measure of efficiency -- does the payback in food obtained via a stealth tactic that employs the "low efficiency" gait outweigh the cost of the gait?  It apparently does: cats are still with us.
d*gz. meh. us kittehs iz PWNZ0RZ teh hol univers. kthxbai. =^..^=
Cats aren't built for endurance at all, even in their bio-chemistry. Dogs don't have much ATP in their "reserves" when at rest compared to a cat, at least by bodyweight. But dogs make it much better than cats by bodyweight. What that leaves the cat with is low-endurance. Anyone who's played with a cat notes they might be crazy about the string for five minutes, and then they lose interest. Its because they're tired as much as anything else. But you can also note that pound-for-pound, a cat is much stronger than a dog when going full-bore. Compare a Greyhound and a Cheetah for instance. The Cheetah has an edge in acceleration and top-speed over the Greyhound, but it "runs out of gas" and has to stop running quite a bit sooner than the Greyhound.
Cats are solitary stalkers, whereas dogs are pursuing pack animals. Speed and endurance are key to a pack animal's success at bringing down prey...often the speediest dog in the pack does the actual bringing down with the remainder of the pack catching up and finishing the job.  Cats employ patience and outstanding stealth...along with a rapid pounce.  Plus...many cats evolved camouflage to assist in their stalking.  Tabbys are probably the closest relations to ancient wild cats...with those shading toward brown probably the closest relatives.  The tabby markings blend well with tall grasses.  Regarding intelligence:  show me a dog that can use a litter box and I'll show you a dog that's as smart as a cat.
RBH, I kinda had the same reaction when I saw the item, and I did go with that news-release quote nevertheless... When Schmitt called me back, I did ask him about the "duh!" factor. And he agreed that a fair number of people had that reaction ... that of course there are different ways to, um, skin a cat when it comes to evolutionary fitness.

Here's what I have in my notes about his response, and some of it may not make sense ... but I did paraphrase a bit and use it in the item, toward the end:

"What people have thought is that evolution should select for low-oxygen consumption, low energy use to high yield."

(This was found to be the case for a wide variety of species, including dogs, ostriches and penguins. He didn't provide the penguin reference but these are examples:)

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/195/1/199.pdf
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/abstract/207/22/3917
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071207-penguins-dive.html

(Anyway, back to the idea of low-energy, high-efficiency locomotion in hunting mode:)

"We thought cats would be the same, but we saw that they were sacrificing this to be stealthy."

Schmitt told me that cat species were the only kinds of animals to follow this pattern ... but that does sound like it's begging to be contradicted by some zoologist. Yes, maybe there's a bit of hype to this. I guess you can take it more as a case study... as I told David Grinspoon already on Facebook, the more interesting part for me was the material about human fitness for long-distance running. And if you haven't listened to the "This American Life" piece about chasing antelope, you should load that onto your MP3 player and give it a listen, preferably while you're on the treadmill at the gym.
catz R teh suxor
The style doesn’t matter as much as the animals’ harmony within its niche / habitat. A shark hasn’t changed much in millions of years. Why because it is in tune with its environment and doesn’t need to adapt. As the cat or dog is in tune within its niche, dogs don’t hunt mice the perfect food for a cat. Cat’s use stealth to get the mouse / bird it is in tune within its niche, dogs hunt different prey. That is why both have succeeded as a species. So in a way this is a pointless article as you are comparing apples and oranges.
Maybe I am missing something, but I think this article compares just the energy used by cats, dogs and apparently humans in running down prey. But surely each has a different hunting millieu and therefore technique. Dogs and men usually get their prey running them down, while cats creep up (say up trees, which dogs and men cannot do as efficiently) and pounce using surprise. Dogs by the way are not strictly hunting animals: their longish snouts are designed to dip into left-over carcasses they are scavenging.
Why is everyone assuming that "different" = "good" or "bad"? Results count- cats can hunt to feed themselves quite nicely, thank you.
And Schmitt's use of "need" in that remark is strange.  Cats don't "need" to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency; rather, they have evolved hunting adaptations that involved operating (briefly) at a gait of low efficiency, but that are apparently productive (and efficient?) with respect to obtaining food.  That's the real measure of efficiency -- does the payback in food obtained via a stealth tactic that employs the "low efficiency" gait outweigh the cost of the gait?  It apparently does: cats are still with us.

Perfectly said....it's not the method you use, it's the results that count.  Cats are expert at hunting for food.  Regardless of their oxygen consumption, energy efficiency or having a gait that doesn't compare to other species, they still eat.  And they are better equipped to catch their own dinner than most dogs and humans.  There's something to be said for being stealthy as a strategy for survival....
I am a cat lover for certain.  Had to grin at a previous comment about the cat being litter box trained.  So right!  However, when will they learn to barf in the box?  I sure do appreciate not stepping in cat crap, like one so frequently does in dog doo.  But those barefoot trods into fresh cat puke....yuck.
Cats creep.  Dogs chase.  Cats clamp their teeth on the neck of their prey, suffocating it, one cat to one victim, after surprising it.  Dogs hamstring their prey, with most of the pack participating in bringing down the prey after exhausting it in an open pursuit, and often don't wait before beginning to feed.  

Evolution pairs off suitable types of prey with adapted predators.  But there are many types of prey and many types of predator.  Wolves will kill coyotes. Owls will kill cats.

Man will kill anything, including other men, women and children. Are we finished "evolving?"  Or just beginning?  
I prefer to challenge all who comment. Just who do you think you are? Are cats the best or are cancines? If each can be taught they are the best of both evils. I've got one of each they both fetch and sit up. Go into the histories of a lot of these individuals and they will tell you,they have, either one, that they do what this survey entails and more, but train them and they will do your bidding. By the way it only takes 10 minutes each day and you have them eating out of the palm of your hand. Dogs do it first but cats usually come in a day or two later and do exactly the same thing  as dogs with just a bit of a delay.

To those that try  and to those that  have patience Themondo 13
  This is actually pretty interesting.  Basically it says that the hunting styles evolved differently.  One creeping-stealthy-burst of speed, the other more long pursuits.  The question is: why is that?  what caused cats and dogs to evolve differently?  
It doesn't really matter who is faster or uses the most energy.  Cats can catch birds on their own, dogs have to wait until their person kills it before it is brought in.  I agree with the person who said that a dog will be useful when it can use a litter box, but I would like to expand of that by saying when a dog can use a litter box and (almost) never need a bath, and be left alone for up to 3 days and not leave little packages and puddles everywhere, I will concede that the cute little doggie buggers rule.  Until then......it is a cat's domaine.
Re: When a cat slinks close to the ground, it moves its front and back ends in a relatively inefficient, self-canceling pattern that results in a smooth, flowing forward motion, Schmitt said. "If they're creeping, they're going to put this foot down, and then that foot down, and then that one, in an even fashion. We think it has to do with stability and caution," he said.", cats aren't walking that way for stability and caution.  They are moving in such a way that a bird or other animal are less likely to see that they're moving forward because they're oozing forward slowly.  Birds, for instance, are unlikely to see this type of movement, which is how cats capture an animal that can fly away.

Cats may not stalk in an energy-efficient manner, but they are incredibly effective hunters nonetheless. Research has shown that cats capture prey successfully on about 1 in 3 hunts.

Considering that a cat's "hunt" may involve nothing more than a patient wait outside a vole burrow, followed by a lightning-fast pounce, I don't think the inefficiency of their stride is of much consequence.
Cats are, by far, the superior animal. The very traits that people claim to dislike in cats are completely overlooked or "explained away" when dogs display the exact same behaviors. That is a human oddity among many who worship dogs.
"Schmitt emphasized that he and his colleagues weren't trying to set off a cat vs. dog controversy ..." What's funny about that is... that's exactly what everyone started talking about!

That was never his purpose. I'm sure he knows about the difference between cats and dogs, animals that hunt as individuals and animals that hunt in packs.

This is science. One can't just say, "I KNOW this to be true." Evidence must be compiled and peer reviewed. It's silly to say, "well of course I know cats are less efficient!" Wouldn't an animal that is able to expend large amounts of energy AND has a more efficient gait be better?

As for his being ignorant, here is a piece on efficiency:
"This is in line with a view that is almost axiomatic in modern zoology, namely, that evolution constantly works to increase the efficiency of organisms."

http://books.google.com/books?
id=OUwXzD3iihAC&pg=PA397&lpg=PA397
&dq=evolution+efficiency+oxygen+mammals&
source=web&ots=H0tkY3ReuX&sig=meu4BIDD-Hxh_phk
S9LYcuz84Vc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result
&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA397,M1


Obviously, everyone still has a bit more to learn about evolution.

Thank you Daniel Schmitt for providing more interesting and hard knowledge of the world around us.
To respond to John Messenger's comment "Regarding intelligence:  show me a dog that can use a litter box and I'll show you a dog that's as smart as a cat."

Just try telling your cat to "sit and stay" and then tell me they're smarter.  
I don't dispute that dogs that hunt in a pack are usually more successful in bringing down game but there is a feline comparison in lion prides although the strategies are different.  I would like to examine the cheetah comparison a bit more because their hunting strategy is more comparable to dogs, an ambush followed by a sprint chase.  There is also the issue of sharing of the kill a solitary hunter may expend more energy in making the kill but enjoys all of the rewards.  A low ranking member of a pack or pride may actually expend all of the energy in making a kill but the dominant animals will feed first.  I think mostly this should have been a comparison of locamotion efficiency rather than hunting effectiveness.
Well, John Messenger, my Sheltie may not use a litter box but she's no dummy. We had a long, long, snowy, snowy winter '07-'08. The night of the last blizzard, she went out for her bedtime potty, stood on the porch regarding the snow, turned around to give me The Look, and promptly squatted then and there to whiz. I didn't blame her one bit for being done with  slogging through snow.
KIT-E POW-R rawrr
The only thing that sways my mind is results. I don't care how much funding is being wasted on this completely useless study. I've owned cats and dogs; cats catch things; dogs don't. Dogs don't even kill to eat anymore. They just happen to kill the chipmunk/ground hog because they don't know how to play.
Cats utilize a different type of efficiency.  Yes, dogs are more efficient while running, but cats' stealth minimizes how much running they have to do.  10 units of energy per yard for 100 yards or 20 units per yard for 50 yards (or whatever the units & ratios work out to be.)
These findings are interesting, but domestic dogs and cats have been changed so much by human intervention that I wonder how much we can really learn about evolution from them.
U dnt need speed 2 catch ur cheezeburger!
Anyone doing a comparative study on the present day crop of cats and dogs should keep in mind that they have undergone thousands of years of human engineering (selective breeding). Dogs are far more intelligent than cats and one should not confuse inherited traits with the ability to learn new and different things. A dog can be trained (housebroken) to do their business outside but a cat can’t be trained to use a litterbox because it is their natural instinct to “cover-up” their business no matter whether it is done in the litter in a box inside a house or in the litter of leaves or mulch outside in the flowerbed. Cats will search out for litter to cover up their uh business.
What I don't understand is how they can extrapolate data  regarding housecats and then apply that to cats in the wild. First, cats have had human intervention in their development just like dogs have. I can understand creating theories regarding the large cats from studies of housecats but not making declarations on their evolutionary design. Same goes for dogs, we've manipulated their evolution to a point where several breeds would not likely survive in the wild.

Although I have a healthy respect for science, this sounds like a thesis paper that wasn't fully hatched before someone leaked it to the news.

I am a lover of both cats and dogs, however if I had to chose one over the other then I would have to say that cats taste better.
Only humans are dumb enough to run marathons, waste a ton of energy and catch no prey.  While domesticated dogs may be better at long distance running becausae they tend to be much bigger than domesticated cats I think that nature shows us big cats are far superior to big dogs in running and catching prey.  I mean where are the big wild dogs that rival lions and tigers?  Lions and Tigers would whip any big dog in the wild like a hyena.

Cats are far smarter than dogs when to comes to hunting.  They hunt smart by making sure they don't waste energy on long distance chasing around.  They strike quick and stealthy and don't waste so much energy getting their prey.  They're the Ferrari's of nature, fast and graceful.

Cats Rule!
There is an important factor when comparing hunting mechanics and bioenergetic/biomechanical hunting efficiency:  terrain which is related to prey types and success of prey kills;

Wild cats in the United States and in areas such as the Himalyas (known as solitary hunters) hunt in terrain that provides the advantage with specific prey species and possess a bioenergetic and biomechanical manner that is suited to more rugged mountainous, rock or ledge environs.  Their hunting style is adapted to quick bursts of anaerobic energy required for leaping and 30-40 yard sprint-kills.  Wild cats in Africa, where the terrain may not be as mountainous hunt in prides, yet possess the same sprint-kill anaerobic hunting style.  The existence of the pride offers an adaptation in the African terrain.

Wild canids, such as wolves, hunt differently and, as is commonly known, often in packs.  The terrain is typically flatter and rolling and suited to canids bioenergetic and biomechanical hunting styles - long, loping aerobic chases which wear-out the prey.  Again, in Africa the canids are typically pack animals.  An exception may be the hyena, yet they often scavange kills by other animal hunters

Yet, what is also interesting is that the origin of certain canid species is evolutionarily related to the ancient Tomarctus, a cat species.  The Siamese cat is an example of a modern cat breed which exhibits many of the characteristics of the ancient Tomarctus, including their tree climbing ability.

Human running history and abilities have been refined by high-tech training methods, nutritional supplements, footwear, and modern sports.  
Cats only taste good in stir fry.
All things considered cats rule
As an owner of 3 dogs and one cat I see everyday the differences and similarities in behavior. I think the dogs chase prey and each other more for the entertainment. The dogs know that the reliable food source is us the humans. They will stop any activity in order to get a handout. The cat on the other hand once in hunting mode will not stop. Our cat comes home with kills constantly. One day he had a live chipmunk in his mouth. I wanted to free the chipmunk without it biting me so I tried to get the cat to release by bribing him with his favorite treats. The cat had no interest and I grappled with him for quite a few minutes before he finally let go. I think if it was a dog with a kill in his/her mouth they would have released on command for one, and secondly would have let go in order to get a treat. For what its worth I think the cats are definitely "harderwired" than the dogs to hunt.
Cats.
this difference in hunting style may also explain why most cats are not comfortable in vehicles.  dogs, by thier nature, are used to the environment moving rapidly around them cats are not.
@John Messenger - "show me a dog that can use a litter box and I'll show you a dog that's as smart as a cat."

I have a little "Poochi" (half toy poodle, half chihuahua) who has been trained to use a litter box.  This makes it easier for him on those times when I'm gone for a few hours.  I've seen amazing displays of intelligence from both species.

But this discussion was about "gait efficiency" wasn't it?  I'm a long distance runner, slow but steady.  On occasion I've taken my small (about 8 inches tall and 12 inches long, 4 lbs) dog with me on some shorter runs (3 to 5 miles).  For those distances he outruns me hands down.  But the heat factor does him in - on hot days I can sweat it out where he has to stop and cool off.

Evolution doesn't always move towards "efficiency" particularly when a species moves towards specialization.  Interesting article.

Cats are to be ambush hunters (with the exception of the cheetah, which is more of a mongoose) and as such are evolved for only short bursts of speed, not endurance. Wolves (dogs) and humans are evolved for the chase.
kittehz cant haz cheezbuggez

I like DOGS over CATS for being more friendly and that is why they tell Presidents that if you want a friend in Washington-Get a Dog!
I know that many people are definitely "Dog" people, preferring them to the domestic house cat.  I am amazed at the size range with dogs that has occured during the "domestication" process over the thousands of years of humans and dogs have co-existed.  

However, even with the various breeds of domestic cats across the world; there still isn't the equalvant of a "Afghan Hound" in size for the domestic cat, nor something analogus to a "Grey Hound" for speed, nor something small and danty as a "Poodle or Bichone".   There remains room for improvement to develop new breeds and varieties with the domestic cat.  The most unique is, in my opinion, a Bengal--the miniversion of a Tiger.  Yet, they all are a pleasure and a wonderful addition to anyones life.
The author obviously doesn't know the difference between chasing and stalking.  Chasing is a brute-force activity for large animals of low intellect.  Stalking is an activity that pits stealth with a careful observation of the prey in order to take the prey by surprise.  Dogs just don't have the brains for this.
This was a fun and interesting read,esp. the comments.  Thanks for the science lesson today.
Cats or Dogs we love them both.I think that cats are better hunters ,can go up a tree in seconds go through narrow places.Dogs too are good hunters they can smell   a prey meters away.But humans and cat can't do that Like Schmitt said 'animals need to make compromises'We have our strong points. Animals too have their strong points to survive.dolphin123777@yahoo.com


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Regarding John's comments about tabbies: the tabby is only a color and not indicative of any specific breed at all. When cats are allowed to breed freely, the subsequent generations tend more and more towards tabby, specifically brown tabby (gray and black), with brown mackerel tabby being the most common marking pattern in Domestic Shorthairs. Evolution indeed.
Cats are superior creatures to dogs, and my cat is a superior creature to all of your cats, as well as all other creatures.  Nothing more to note, really; just a simple fact of which I thought I'd remind all of you.  Thanks.  
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Let a dog and a Cat share their opinions for once!We cannot always speak for them and think we know about them all.We might have made many misinterpretations  and calculations about them.Scientist are not always 100% right with their claims.They still know very little of what is really out there and in them as well.In the field of animal study they still have a long way to go.ok i can't talk too much,let's give a dog and a cat a chance to speak for themselves "freedom of speech!" , ok the Dog is ready,  Go ahead  Doggy,.......Doggyyyy!

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Finish Doggy?
-woof!  

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-ok Now Mimi stop it your scaring Bobby.Ahh  poor Doggy kai kai kai.Bad cat you! meoooooow!

Did you get what they said exactly i know i know it is a tough language to learn.haha.

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