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Action urged on asteroids

Posted: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:48 PM by Alan Boyle


Don Davis / NASA
The worst-case scenario for cosmic impact: A celestial body slams into Earth.

Astronauts and other space experts are calling for the formation of new international organizations to monitor a threat that may not be as imminent as the current financial crisis but would be even more catastrophic: a cosmic collision with an asteroid or comet.

Such organizations would make contingency plans to divert threatening near-Earth objects, and recommend how to proceed when those plans actually have to come into play. But the final decision to take action should be left up to the U.N. Security Council, the panel says.

The call to action, issued last Thursday, is the result of a three-year process spearheaded by the Association of Space Explorers - and particularly by Apollo 9 astronaut Rusty Schweickart, chairman of the association's committee on near-Earth objects, or NEOs.

One bad cosmic collision can ruin your whole day - or eon, as the dinosaurs discovered 65 million years ago. Based on Earth's impact history, scientists estimate that the planet suffers a hit capable of destroying civilizations every 500,000 to a million years on average - the so-called "background risk" for a NEO strike.

We're not facing any known NEO threat right now, but every once in a while a space rock comes along that gives the scientists pause, at least until its orbit can be defined with greater accuracy. It was that way with the asteroid 1997 XF11 a decade ago, and with the asteroid Apophis a couple of years ago.

The worries about Apophis have receded, but Schweickart told me we can expect many more worries to crop up as new observatories focus on NEOs in the years to come.

"Over the next 10 or 15 years, because of Pan-STARRS and the Large Synoptic Survey Telescope, we're going to end up with an avalanche of near-Earth objects," he said.

Software billionaire (and space passenger) Charles Simonyi, one of the backers of the $400 million Large Synoptic Survey Telescope, said during this month's congress of the Association of Space Explorers that the instrument will produce a torrent of astronomical data.

"In the first week, we will see more data from this telescope than all the telescopes in humanity up to that point," Simonyi said.

That's likely to produce significantly more observations of near-Earth objects - space rocks that may not be as big as the one that killed the dinosaurs, but could still wreak havoc on cities if they happened to be on a collision course, Schweickart said.

"In 10 or 15 years, 6,000 [near-Earth objects] is going to become 300,000 or more. The 200 with some probability of impact is going to become 6,000 to 10,000. The two or three of elevated concern is going to go to 100 or more," he said.

Who will sift through all those reports and figure out what to do with them? The scientific community has been pretty good about focusing on the potential close encounters, and so far the chances of catastrophe have been diminished in every case. But one of these days, scientists could come across a "cosmic Katrina" that doesn't go away.

The recommendations drawn up by the Panel on Asteroid Threat Mitigation, set up by the association's NEO committee, addresses how to prepare for that eventuality. The panel recommends that the United Nations set up three new organizations:

  • The Information, Analysis and Warning Network would coordinate the various ground-based and space-based that detect near-Earth objects. The network would analyze NEO orbits and establish criteria for issuing collision warnings.

  • The Mission Planning and Operations Group would draw upon the expertise of spacefaring nations to work out the best strategies for deflecting a threatening near-Earth object.

  • The U.N. NEO Threat Oversight Group would oversee the other groups and figure out what level of threat would merit international action. If a potential threat rose to that level, the group would develop recommendations for consideration by the U.N. Security Council.

Why get the U.N. involved? Why not just leave it to NASA, or the Defense Department, or the space and defense agencies of other countries? Schweickart pointed out that acting on a potential threat carries international risks. Efforts to change the incoming asteroid's path may actually increase the risk for some Earthlings. For example, in the process of shifting the collision path away from a direct hit on New York, a deflection effort could put Russia in the asteroid's sights.

"In the process of shifting the trajectory off the earth, it will move across the earth before it reaches the edge," Schweickart explained. "That is hopefully a temporary risk that is very, very low, if you do it correctly. But in that process, you've got the transitional issue."

That's why the expert panel recommends that the United Nations set up a system now, before the issue becomes a political hot potato (or a hot potato-shaped asteroid).

Schweickart said that the report has just been delivered to one of the action teams for the U.N. Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space, starting the ball rolling for consideration of the panel's recommendations. "Nothing happens in the United Nations without a very structured procedure, and nothing happens fast," he said.

He said it may take several years for the report to churn its way up through the U.N. space committee for action. "These things take time," Schweickart admitted, "but once they get in the front end of the process, they end up in the back end of the process."

The United Nations could decide to do nothing at all, but Schweickart hopes the world body will create a system as authoritative about cosmic threats as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is about global warming.

"We are not talking about the United Nations forming a space program," he insisted. "The United Nations needs to be involved in coordinating a response through the international community. ... You can't have every Tom, Dick and Harry or Susie saying, 'Oh, here's one coming at us, there's going to be a hit.'"

So does Schweickart, who has served in a variety of business and government roles after leaving NASA, aspire to become the world's asteroid czar? Not on your life. He'll be traveling around the world, trying to garner support for the asteroid crisis plan, but he doesn't see this as a lifelong quest.

"I see myself down the line as being out of the game, ASAP!" the 72-year-old said good-naturedly. "I've put in seven years of retirement, with no compensation, to get it this far. I'm looking forward to being back with my family, being on the golf course and doing all the things you're supposed to be doing when you're retired."

Learn more about how scientists track asteroids by clicking through our "Below the Belt" interactive graphic.

Schweickart's colleagues on the Association of Space Explorers' NEO committee are all former astronauts and cosmonauts: Sergei Avdeyev and Viktor Savinykh of Russia, Chris Hadfield of Canada, Thomas Jones and Edward Lu of the United States, and Dorin Prunariu of Romania.

Members of the Panel on Asteroid Threat Mitigation include:

  • Adigun Ade Abiodun, Nigeria, founder of the African Space Foundation.
  • Vallampadugai Arunachalam, India, chairman of the Center for Study of Science, Technology and Policy.
  • Roger-Maurice Bonnet, Switzerland, president of the Committee on Space Research.
  • Sergio Camacho-Lara, Mexico, secretary-general of the Regional Center for Space Science and Technology Education in Latin America and the Caribbean.
  • James George, Canada, former ambassador, Secure World Foundation.
  • Tomifumi Godai, Japan, former executive vice president, Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency.
  • Peter Jankowitsch, Austria, former foreign minister and former chairman of the U.N. Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space.
  • Sergey Kapitza, Russia, member of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
  • Paul Kovacs, Canada, executive director of the Institute for Catastrophic Loss Reduction.
  • Walther Lichem, Austria, former president of the Association of European Space Agencies.
  • Gordon McBean, Canada, chairman of Integrated Research on Disaster Risk.
  • Sir Martin Rees, Britain, president of the Royal Society and astronomer royal.
  • Karlene Roberts, United States, director of Collaborative for Catastrophic Risk Management.
  • Michael Simpson, France, president of International Space University.
  • Crispin Tickell, Britain, director of the Policy Foresight Program, James Martin Institute for Science and Civilization, Oxford University.
  • Richard Tremayne-Smith, Britain, former chairman of Action Team 14 for the U.N. Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space.
  • Frans von der Dunk, Netherlands, director of the International Institute of Space Law.
  • James Zimmerman, United States, president of the International Astronautical Federation.

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As I have always said, the more efficiently and self-sufficiently we are on a very local level, the less things like asteroid impacts, bird flu pandemics, economic collapses, and terror attacks will affect us.  Just think that it only takes about 20,000 square feet of shop space to build an entire NASCAR from scratch.  Shops like that should be in every community and even our own homes could have shops capable of making our own clothing, furniture, garden tools, moutain bikes and canoes... it is possible and even growing more so all the time with rapid prototyping and extremely capable computers and office software!  Furhtermore, we can enhance each and every home to be more and more emergency enhanced.  No... we don't have to live in a bunker to feel safe.  But there are general and very realistic measure that can enhance our homes to cope with nearly any crisis you can think of.  Almost all such adaptations and disaster preparedness ideas are good for other things like saving money on heating and add a great deal to our lives in other ways.  That's kind of the whole point... if we do things right and pick ideas that aren't just good for global warming, terrorism, or killer asteroids, we can counter them all while actually increasing our quality of living in the process.  Lets make this our challenge... Lets find ways and ideas that can address the most problems with the simplest solutions like being able to work directly and productively right from home.  Self-sufficiency may be a little more expensive, but "globalization" has problems all its own.  It makes us too darn dependant on key areas like Silicon Valley, Everett Washington, Tokyo, NYC, and Houston that could all be taken out of the picture with one super-disaster or terror attack.  We have to pull ourselve up by the boot heals and prepare cause aint no one else going to do it for us.

So the sky really could be falling after all eh?
About time people take this stuff seriously!

One big hit and we are all gone...or at least sent back to the stone age.

In the 1980's, I couldn't live without MTV. In the 1990's, I couldn't live without my Nintendo. In the 2000's, I discovered I can't live without my life! That starts happening when you hit your 40's.

Without people like those mentioned above, we will be ill-prepared at best. We need them even if most feel that this threat is unreal.

I've had this conversation many times and many seem to think the chances are so slim that we shouldn't invest much money in it. They just don't get that one hit can finish us. It's almost science fiction to them and not science fact.
IMO, 3 steps need to be taken immediately:

1) Put in place a dedicated visible wavelength, IR, or microwave-based system for detecting and tracking small objects.

2) Launch a beacon and place it on an Earth-orbit crossing object for the purpose of exercising tracking and orbital prediction systems.

3) Launch additional spacecraft for the purpose of testing gravity traction, ion-propulsion diversion, simple impact, and mass-ejection diversion systems.
This story is a big one, since inaction could result in the cessation of life on this planet. Hopefully some powerful leaders are paying attention and will lead the way to move this along.
Hehe.  That is the premise behind the anime series, Stratos 4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratos_4
To tell you the truth, there isn't much we as a planet would be able to do if we knew one was coming, if we saw one coming our best bet is to give people time to pray and talk to God, and to tell you the truth that would't be so bad at all,a new horzion,a new birth,nothing to be affraid of if you trust in God the Father
Sometimes I think that I might be only 1 of a few earthlings to believe and acknowledge that this is a very real threat and concern.  Average and intellectual Earthlings alike are so caught up in their everyday ordinary lives that they do not think about what is outside our realm.  Wake up people!  It is not all about us, there are things outside of what we know or what we refuse to accept.  We must be proactive if we want our race, humankind, to survive.
Do we really want to know - strikes me (no pun intended) that, until we know what to do about it, it would be best if we were caught unaware.
I think it is a great idea to have the UN involved. If something should head to earth we are going to have to band together and try to destory or change its path.
It is a bad idea to let the UN get involed.  To let a bunch of buracrats,& lawyer call the shots, they are not even scientist.  I see a potential threat bogged down "UN RED TAPE" until the point of "NO matter what the action is or how large it is will do nothing to the threat". The UN has made many failures in the past from Korean War(Police Action), "oil for food  program", most member nation hate all that is US and US programs or even pay parking tickets and with that type of track record I wouldn't trust the UN for anything much less protector of Earth.
Wow..Is that going to happen on 10/07/08?! DEFCON-1..
Thank you for your service to our country.  I was a child living in Satellite Beach, FL when you were launching during Apollo 9.  I have great respect for our astronauts.
Man, how have we ever made it this far? I'm sure glad we have the UN to deal with this issue. What if it were left up to the Americans like everything else? This is just too important.
That illustration that MSNBC always uses is completely misleading. The one depicted is the ultimate worst case where something the size of a small moon wouldn't be avoidable no matter how many nukes you flung at it.  The Spaceguard system is looking for things 10kms wide and smaller. The dinosaur extiction 10K type strike about once every 80 millon years or so. These are extinction events. Smaller ones are the ones that will wreak havoc.
Wait a second - if the risk is one asteroid every half-million to million years, exactly how is it that we've made it 65 million years since the last big one?

IF an asteroid, comet or NEO is destined to hit the earth, I want to find out where it will hit and go there. It surely will be a once in a lifetime spectical!
This move to bring more resources to detecting Potentially Hazardous Asteroids and taking concrete action to avert disaster is about 10 years overdue. I'm somewhat skeptical of the workability of passing these problems through the UN because I believe that Russia (allied with smaller rogue nations) has an infinite capacity for attempting to warp results to its own advantage. I believe that NATO and other transnational military alliances would be much more effective in following through with workable action plans on a time-expedited basis.
I have a suggestion: The country that the asteroid would impact, would be responsible for diverting it!!

Don't know about you, but I'm sick of the USA having to save the damn world everytime there is a natural disaster in some small corner of the world.....
Sounds like a major job creation program for some unemployed Scientists.  And if they do spot an Asteroid ready to hit the Earth and wipe out civilization, what, other than wishing they weren't in the way, do they intend to do about it; besides notihng.

"The 200 with some probability of impact is going to become 6,000 to 10,000. The 200 with some probability of impact is going to become 6,000 to 10,000."

Your editorial staff needs to do a better job...

Other than that, good article, and I say cheers to the panel for the idea of UN responsibility for such projects.

[ALAN ADDS: Bluh! Thanks for catching that, I've made the fix. Heaven knows I always need to do a better job...]

This is one of the reasons why I believe our Government should be thinking of putting more money into Early Warning Systems, Satellite Technology, better highways, bridges, small businesses, global warming, etc etc ... instead of trying to convince us that we are to give $700 Billion to bail-out the rich profiteers and Wall Street.  This is where our money should be saving our world.
There is much talk about an asteroid?? "Nibiru", that would come in close proximity to the earth in ±2012 and create much damage etc.  What is this and is there any evidence that this would be a concern?
scary thought!!!
wow the picture up on the top of the page is a global killer if thats not enough to prompt action then wat is ?
the UN is pathetic now, and you want to in trust them to
safeguard good old USA, I don't think so, last time I checked many are gunning for us, would love to see us out of the world picture we need more like a just in case department, we must self insure our existence while helping to preserve others
If this were to actually happen, I say let's call it a day. Open a bottle of wine and hig and kiss the opne you love. We can't even solve financial or political problems on earth due to greed and corruption. How the heck is the entire world going to agree on what to do on a crisis of this magnitude??
Please give me more hope than to tell me the U.N.is in charge of this?? I have NO faith in the U.N., we are so DEAD!!!
THAT LOOKS PRETTY AWESOME!!!!!!
I like the idea of combining the expertise of a lot of people regarding NEO's, but the last thing we should do is involve the United Nations in it. Better
a consortium of space agencies than that rathole for
money down on the east river in Manhattan.They cannot even be effective on an acknowledged genocide in Darfur,Sudan.
Why would ANYONE leave a decision to the UN?   This is an orgnization that has caused so much grief for so many nations.  
The only problem with this idea is that the United Nations itself has no resources to use in the prevention of a collision.  The history of the U.N.'s ability to coerce, must less coordinate, the nations of this planet against a "common enemy", has not been the rosiest or the most successful.  Unfortunately, I do not know of a better solution.
Give me a break, we might not survive tomorrow. Hope you're spending your private money/fund for this.
This is what the governments of the world should be working on instead of squabbling amongst themselves with wars and arresting guys for having a joint.  
if no ones watching ny skys,we could get hit,its a big sky out there! should be teams on the night watch! mk ufoligist, mufon member! see ufo adventure, oct. 23 7pm  glen cove library, glen cove, LI n.y.----
Well, as we continue to mismanage this blue marble, (Air, soil, and water) it may be time to let her have a rest by wiping us off and staring anew.... The natural course may be extinction.....it has happened before.
Hur Hur!Since when do moon-sized bolides impact the earth from dead up North orbit?

This is a bunch of scientists who have looked at all the money their so called "atmospheric scientist" colleagues have made off of the man-caused global warming scam and now want to get on the UN-US governmental gravy train scam relating to poorly educated, frightened citizens now to worry about moon sized objects slamming into earth!
How about the mainstream media stops beating around the bush and helps everyone acknowledge the so called threat planet X which is suposed to cross our orbit. Thats must be all lies because scientists and astronomers only observe and see nothing out there  
Acording to Revelations in the Bible in our future.

And I saw a large Asteroid slam into our earth and dissrupted all earths Techtonic Plates. For where there were mountains and Oceans were no more.

Can a moon sized Asteroid plunging deep into our earth put pressure on the opposit earth plates plunge our land masses to buckle and roll in our Magma be the end ?. What about the ocean turn into steam then come down as rain on a Lava mass as our future land mass ?
No more Europe, America, North and South ?.

But not to worry our earth will not look the same for we will not exist to see millions of years into the future.

And why will our earth still be here ?.  Natures  ( GRAVITY ) will recycle our earth.  Plants , Humans,Land mass ?.  We will be laying in the rock formations with the Dinosaur. Our Statue of Liberty All of North America, Europe, Russia, China, Africa will join the Rock with the Dinosaur.

And I saw the whole earth as a lake of fire Magma, and plasma.
Well in millions of years there after The Ocean turned to steam evaporated into space will then come down to cool and harden our world called Earth Recycleing Affect.
Can the bible be correct as to our future ?.

Do you trust the planetary objects that roam the universe ?  Also revelations say and I saw collamity in the Universe of planets falling back into the begining of The Big Bang called The Big Crunch.

Where can we hide ?????
lets say how much more stress you can take with everything going down the drains and now added extrateritorial things. :P
Good article. Now is the time for us to consider the problem and come up with a solution that might take a lot of R&D to develop.  Not ten minutes after a astronomer says "Oh my God, there an asteroid 10 miles across and its coming straight for Earth". Any solution we can devise probably won't benefit my kids or my kid's kids..but the odds are becoming increasingly against us.  And it should be our solution..who else is capable of coming up with something?  Involve the UN?  What a joke..I don't even want them on American soil.  
good idea if they will take it seriously before it becomes the next global crisis...unlike the current issues..(OIL-Climate)which could have and should have been resolved before they became an emergency.
The problem with all this crap that no one wants to tell is that Star Trek isn't right now, its still only a TV program using technobabble.  Does the technology exist today even in infancy that could deflect a solar object large enough to cause high level catastrpohic damage?  NO!  Our technology has just reached the level where the probability of shooting down a satellite with a ground based missle has a 20% chance.  Solar objects move much faster than satellites, are vastly further away, and they are guaranteed to be quite solid and a kinetic dart would do no more to move a football sized asteroid than a gnat flying into your body could knock you down, or even make your go off balance.  Yes, this could let us know we need to make our final preparations, but that is all it can do for probably the next several hundred years in the very least.  Why waste the effort and money right now when there are more vexing problems in our society and world that deserve far more attention?!
Has everybody gone mad ? Why does everyone have to
worry about everything. There are much better things
to be doing with your life. Do you really think
it is going to make any difference at all.
Asteroids?
For decades we have spent billions and billions of dollars in space, for what? To see if there's water on Mars? Now they are just coming up with this? Except for monitoring the weather here on earth and communications it's all waste and should be stopped. 'If' an asteroid were headed towards earth simply blowing it to pieces wouldn't work because the smaller pieces would still impact the planet re: Jupiter. It would have to be deflected or vaporized. I agree that this is just another scam to get more and more money from the government(Us) and they certainly didn't pick the best time for their proposal. Wasteful government spending has to end and NASA is a white elephant that should have been disbanded long ago in favor of an organization that explores the oceans and helps us here on earth and not for esoteric scientific purposes.  
this already happened ,and it was a direct hit on earth , luckily it wasn't a very big space body but big enough to scare thousands of people out  of their wits.
it happened in southern italy in 1955, a summer night , i was 12 years old and out by the marina playing with other kids ,in the city of milazzo,sicily, the time was about 10-10.30 at night , a lot of people were out as there are in those places ,after after dinner everybody goes out for a stroll before retiring, well, there was a light that kept getting brighter and brighter until it reached daylight strenght or very close to it , when it reached maximum strenght there was a long low thundering noise , everyone started running and like in a scene from a science fiction movie screaming "the end of the world,the end of the world"including me, i ran withoput esitation , very hard, home, there was nothing else to do, no other place to go where you could feel safer.the next day i went to buy a newspaper for the first time in my life looking for an article to read about what happened the night before, sure enough on the first page on a two inch by two inch article said that an object fell down from the sky on the tyrrenean sea witnessed by many scared people along the coast of northern sicily and calabria , that was it didn't say much else maybe because nobody really knew what it was.it must have been big , the whole country side was illuminated like daylight and the thundering was a long one ,maybe ten seconds but it seemed like a lifetime,but it couldn't have been very big, there wasn't a giant wave hitting the shore or there would have been signs and damage,however what it was i don't know, you tell me.the name of the paper was"la gazetta del sud"its still in existence , some copies might still exist ,but i don't remember the exact date ,i left italy for usa in april '56, it was a summer night ,so it must have been 1955, a small chance that it was 1954.i always meant to write a letter to tell carl sagan about this event, never got around to do it and then he died.nobody investigated ,nobody cared, but if the thing would have fallen on milazzo it would have wiped out that city of 30,000 and maybe more. could it happen again? i hope not but something that happens once has a chance of happening again.
Who knows what could happen? I am afraid that all of the combined conventional and thermonuclear weaponry on the entire planet would  not be enough to destroy or divert such an object. Only God could stop or prevent such a catastrophic event. Our combined power is useless if God does not intervene. Let us pray that he will prevent such an event from happening.
Shouldn't the United States be responsible for the poor innocent life that lives and hence gets killed on the asteroid too? I mean... who really hit who here? i'm sure we could find some lawyer or tree hugger to take that defence. maybe we could set up a fund ...yes, another tax with payrole withholding and everything.
What?  An international organization?  That's ridiculous.  Who's going to pay for that?  How about the Association of Space Explorers just keep a look out.  What a bunch of nuts.
A direct hit would be great, I wouldn't need to make any more payments on my loans.


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