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Moonwalker reopens UFO files

Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:02 AM by Alan Boyle


MSNBC
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Moonwalker Edgar Mitchell
speaks out on UFOs.
MSNBC's Alex Witt reports.

It sounds like a publicity stunt for the "X-Files" sequel: A real-life moonwalker, Apollo 14's Edgar Mitchell, says he was told that powerful alien beings have been among us for 60 years and that government officials have been carefully covering up that fact.

Mitchell's claims have caused a huge stir in the week since they were aired on a British radio show. But upon closer inspection, what the retired astronaut said was not all that earth-shattering - or even all that new.

"I happen to be privileged enough to be in on the fact that we have been visited on this planet, and the UFO phenomenon is real, although it's been covered up by governments for quite a long time," Mitchell told Kerrang Radio host Nick Margerrison.

The way Mitchell told it, the aliens look much like the little gray men depicted in most sci-fi sagas and possess technology far superior to ours - so superior that they could have wiped us out if they chose to.

That's a view held by millions of people who believe extraterrestrials are piloting at least some of the unidentified flying objects that have been reported over the past 60 years. But the fact that the view is coming from a celebrity spaceman, who has talked with military sources supposedly in the know, invests Mitchell's pronouncements with greater authority.

Or does it?

As astronomer Phil Plait points out on his Bad Astronomy blog, just because you're a moonwalker (or a military officer, for that matter) doesn't mean you're entitled to a "get out of reality free" card. And in follow-up interviews with Discovery.com and BlogTalkRadio, Mitchell acknowledged that his evidence is essentially hearsay.

Mitchell emphasized that his UFO views are not based upon his personal experience as a NASA astronaut, but rather upon unofficial talks he's had with witnesses involved in the 1947 Roswell incident and other sightings. He put a lot of weight on the experience of a Navy admiral who tried to follow up on the witnesses' claims but found himself shut out from the top-secret stuff.

It's well-known that some military officials suspected there was something spooky about Roswell, even after the U.S. Air Force announced in 1997 that it had fully explained the UFO reports and was closing out its file on the subject.

The best-known believer with Pentagon credentials was retired Air Force Col. Philip Corso, who spilled what he knew (and heard from others) about the alien conspiracy in a book titled "The Day After Roswell." In a 1997 interview, Corso told me he wrote the book because one of his key sources had passed away, releasing him from a vow of silence.

Corso himself passed away a year after that interview took place, but there are surely other military sources holding onto secondhand or thirdhand secrets. So it's not so surprising that Mitchell was "privileged enough" to hear some of those secrets - and it's not so new that he's bringing them to public attention.

In the Discovery.com Q&A, Mitchell acknowledged that he's been trying to spread the word about UFOs for more than a decade. At one time, he was working with The Disclosure Project, but in this 2001 interview with physicist-ufologist Jack Sarfatti, Mitchell complained that the project was improperly describing him as a UFO "witness." The moonwalker said he had heard disclosures from other seemingly knowledgeable individuals, "mostly of yesteryear," but had no firsthand knowledge himself.

Mitchell stuck to that story in a Fourth of July interview with CNN's Larry King - on a UFO-themed show that made less of a splash than last week's Kerrang interview.

So why did the more recent interview spark more of a buzz?

For one thing, Mitchell played up the references to advanced technology, as well as the idea that "we would be gone by now" if the aliens had been hostile. That added some extra color to Mitchell's oft-told tales about the little gray men. For another thing, he had a bigger piece of the spotlight on Kerrang - as well as an interviewer who was deeply impressed by what the astronaut had to say. ("Wow! This is big!" Margerrison told Mitchell.) 

But the most important factor may well be something so mysterious it's worthy of an "X-Files" investigation: What makes a particular nugget of information go viral? How do you get an item picked up by BoingBoing and The Daily Mail, on Newsvine and MSNBC on cable? The truth is out there ... at least about the viral effect, if not about UFOs.

Feel free to weigh in with your comments, either on UFOs or on Internet epidemiology. And as long as we're on the subject, check out my UFO viewing tips, register your opinion in our long-running Live Vote, take our UFO quiz, click through six real-life X-Files and take on your very own search for UFOs.

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Sounds like the cover up begins
Although Mr. Mitchell does not profess first hand knowledge, his testimony is nevertheless creditable.  What makes this story relevant is the timing.  We are in the midst of any energy crisis which has had an adverse affect on food prices as well as many other things.  Should Mr. Mitchell's accounts prove to be true (I've no doubt that they are) then the question of why the continued cover-up begs to be answered.  If, as many have claimed, we already have working technologies to end our reliance on fossil fuels thus cleaning up the environment, then why aren't we?  If these wars of aggression to keep the oil flowing are truly no longer necessary, then why are soldiers still being deployed.  I suspect that terrorism would end virtually overnight if this kind of withholding would come to an end.  Finally, I think that the greater lesson to be had from our supposed visitors is what we can achieve as a species when we truly choose peace for ourselves and others.  
Psssh... Aliens are too busy probing unsuspecting trailer park house-wives in curlers and moo moos to be dealing with our government.  That's exhausting business.  Don't believe me?  Try listening to their never ending tale of that tornado that hit in ought six.

That's always made me wonder:  Why would creatures with technology infinitely surpassing ours come so far to do things so stupid.  "Yeah, we learned how to warp the space-time continuum, but kind of crash-landed on Earth after turning a bunch of cows inside out...  We don't have any ants to burn on our planet."
OK...I confess...born 7.5.47...Roswell wasn't the only location.
The obvious reason for staying quiet is mankind's predeliction to shoot first and ask questions later.
Given the current Global Climate, and the respectability factor provided by Mitchell, here's an opening into our purpose.
Show signs of overcoming your predeliction, and I'll tell you some real secrets.
Click on the name below to learn more.
It'll be OK, by the way.
Is he hawking a book by any chance?
Does anyone really think the US Government could cover up something like this?  Thousands apon thousands of people, from janitors up to brass, mountains of documents, witnesses from coast to coast?  And, it wouldnt just have to be our government.  Everyone in power over the whole world would have to be in on it.  

Seems unlikely to me.  The governments of the world cant even agree to stop dumping poison into the water and air, dispite the evidence it is killing us.  I think it would take some of that Advanced Alien Tech to keep it all quiet, but that is just circular logic.

I bet something and someone is out there.  The universe is just too big for us alone.  But, if they are watching us, I think they must be smart enough not to let us know it!  :)

The thing that struck me most after interviewing Edgar Mitchell for the Discovery piece is why -- let alone how -- a "secret" like this would be kept for so long. Exactly who decides what is "good" for people to know? Perhaps I've gone soft (hard?) from my summer reading binge (picked up Ayn Rand's masterpiece Atlas Shrugged and couldn't put it down, as the laundry pileup will attest to) but really, is this country REALLY as controlled as what would be necessary to keep   a secret as profound as extraterrestrial life visiting Earth ?
While I respect Mr. Mitchell's exploits as an astronaut, his subjective belief in UFOs based on what other people may have told him doesn't impress me much.  Mitchell also 'practices' ESP and remote healing, and believes in other paranormal and psychic phenomena.  NASA has politely distanced itself from Mr. Mitchell's comments.
I worked with a Sr manager at Rockwell who insisted that since the Roswell incident we have been in contact with an alien race. It was his belief that some of the basic technical challenges of the 50's and 60's were solved by this contact with race.
Seeing as how the most private of goings in the White House can't be kept secret (i.e Clinton/Lewinsky and all the leakers in the Iraq war) along with the fact that NASA has to go begging for money, and our technology does not involve warp drive, and that no "close encounter" ever involved anyone of any credibility, has never occurred over a population center, etc, etc, etc... these latest "revelations" carry no more credibility than all the others...Geez...   If that wasn't enough, they are the most unimaginative and boring stories possible... I would also think that if aliens just broke the laws of physics in traveling trillions of miles, they would have the ability to navigate and seek out significant locations here on Earth... As Carl Sagan said "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."
The ideal that terrorism would end once we are no longer dependant on oil is extremely naïve, and laughable.  I suspect it will be worse than it is now.  Once we don't need oil, the economies that are dependant on oil revenue will crash.  Those people; instead of taking responsibility for not diversifying their economy when they had the chance; will blame us for making them dependant on oil revenue, and then taking that revenue away.  They will hate us even more, as the people who instigated their misery.  That will result in more, not less, terror attacks on the West.
people will beleive any thing some one  tells them.
there will never be any aliens visting this planet.
we will never visit one either.no one can live that
long to make  either trip here or there. use your brain and do the math figger it out  how it wont happen. no body can travel from light years away toget here. dream on,it wont happen,
With a billion billion billion stars out there and as many galaxies, we are be so off base to think we are alone.  As good as our telescopes are they are terrible and no wonder we cant see a earth out there Neptune and Pluto are blurry blobs in our own solar system. I for one hope aliens are here.
He is protecting NASA.  Why... no idea.. pension maybe?  I don't know..  I believe he was an eyewitness, but signed some sort of disclosure to prevent him from saying so.
Reply to L. Thompson: If you accept that Mr. Mitchell's information is valid (which I am not currently accepting OR rejecting), there remains a huge gap between his statements and your assumption that alien technology will release us from out dependance on fossil fuels. For one, there is nothing in the reports to indicate that the aliens are willing to SHARE their technology; Mr. Mitchell simply asserts that they have capabilities well in advance of our own. Nor is there any certainty that we could reproduce their technology with the means at our disposal - it would not surprise me to learn that such technology, if it exists, would require quantum leaps in our materiels science. In short, we would do far better to work out or own problems rather than look to alien super science for solutions.
"... in follow-up interviews with Discovery.com and BlogTalkRadio, Mitchell acknowledged that his evidence is essentially hearsay."

Nice summary of the UFOlogy movement.
Interesting questions Lynwood. In my opinion the reason none of that has come to pass points to the most simple answer: Because there aren't advanced alien technologies available on earth. There aren't little gray men hidden in a secret gov't facility in the desert. There isn't a vast cover-up orchestrated by world governments. The support for those stories just isn't there. I would have to think that some irrefutable evidence would have come to light by now if there was truth to these legends. But so far, nothing.
If anyone thinks the "wars of aggression" are bad now, just introduce an energy source that replaces the oil-based world economy.  Overnight, at least a half-dozen governments would fall and most markets would collapse, sparking an economic depression and conflicts on at least a regional and possibly global basis.  If such a source were available, it must needs be introduced in a very gradual manner, allowing the world to very slowly wean itself from oil dependency.  That is, of course, if such a technology exists.

Frankly, I don't think extra-terrestrials have visited or made contact with anyone on Earth, as the odds against it are so large as to make it near impossible, let alone improbable.  Just the odds against intelligent life arising are huge, let alone being able to leave their planet, then their solar system, then even find us among a hundred billion or so stars in the Milky Way.  What would be the benefit to them of traveling here if they are so advanced?  Souvenirs?  Unless our planetary wages are so low that we are really making parts for aliens (with "Manufactured on Earth" labels) and just don't know about it.  Perhaps the story of garbage in the Pacific from lost shipping containers could be a cover for the alien trade...

Lastly, I would have no respect for aliens that can't seem to control their craft or themselves as they keep crashing (Roswell, NM and RAF Bentwaters, England), destroying crops (why don't they land in parking lots instead of costing farmers their crops?), and flying dangerously close to airliners, etc.  As for their prowess in destruction, let's just say my respect is fairly low for a trans-galaxy traveling species that can get themselves shot down by 1940's military hardware over Roswell.
This is nothing new, we've always known extraterrestrials exist, but once again the goverment is up to the same old thing can anyone say cover up.....
It is Clearly a case of Too Much Solar Radiation.
Preach it brotha! The Government cares only about its own agenda, not the people. "People shouldnt be afraid of its government, the governemnt should be afraid of its people." -V
I met Mr. Mitchell in 1999 at a UFO conference in Port Townsend, WA where he was appearing in a panel discussion with Robert Anton Wilson, Dr. David Mack and others. He was quite credible. A great uncle of a friend of mine is a retired SETI scientist, a man great intelligence not given to frivilous statements, and he once mentioned that NASA was privy to knowledge that the general public is "not ready for". He couldn't elaborate due to secrecy but he wished to impart upon us that what we consider "reality" is just a small part of a much larger picture. I have no reason to disbelieve either of these men.
I personally wish that I could know if there was validity to this. If we are being visited by "powerful aliens" who arent interested in wiping us out, why not embrace them as friends? Surely there's a lot we could learn from each other.

On the other hand, if it's all bunk, then perhaps nothing should change. If it is all bunk, at least we wind up with something interesting to read in the news.
Balooney.
   This is no surprise to me. I have thought that our goverment was covering up the extaterrestrials since before Rosswell. I do not believe they have a right to cover it up. We the People have a right to know! When this all finally comes out in the open the people responsible for the coverup need to be identified and prosecuted for their crimes.
So instead of focusing and researching the basis of what a noted astronaut has now brought to light, the media devoted the majority of it's effort's in discrediting him.  No wonder big media continues to lose it's audience base- agendas are no longer working in their favor.  Investigate the story for what it IS, not what is it ISN'T.
The ancient Kabbalistic text known as the Zohar, a 2000 year old commentary on the Torah, described a round earth before science, a ten dimensional universe before superstring theory, and bad fats/plaque in the arteries as the cause of heart disease, all some 20 centuries before medical science. Read the Zohar and it is there in black and white. Anyway, the Zohar also spoke of alien intelligences that originate not from other planets, but from other dimensions. It describes them as short, big head, no nose, but tiny holes, big eyes etc. It says they sometimes cross over into our dimension. There are many more details that are explained. The Zohar also reveals the origins of Christianity and other truths. The fact that the Zohar has not been made public, is the only true "cover up". The truth is never what you expect and never found in conspiracy theories. If only it were that easy.
Anyone that thinks 'we' are the only race of beings smart enough, or clever enough, to entertain the thought or act of space travel is way to self-centered. A 'Creator' didn't just bring about one work of art, we are among many works of art. It is time to accept that and start living like we were ment to. As part of the much larger 'family' and not so much me,me,me and no others. 'They' don't want to harm or destroy us, maybe just say howdy if 'we' let them.
Folks....It's called HEARSAY for a reason.
We can't must enough faith to believe in God, but we are CONVINCED that little green men are real. I LOVE this planet!
The first commercial radio transmissions on Earth started in 1907 by Marconi. Assuming they had enough power to cross interstellar space, and the Roswell Incident happened in 1947, then any aliens capable of receiving and understanding those transmissions would have to be 40 light years (or less) from Earth AND have the capability of FTL travel.
The reason we don't/won't implement super technologies is because they would utterly destroy the world's economies.  Imagine what would happen to energy markets if portable cold fusion suddenly made oil, natural gas, and electrical industries obsolete.  What would these all these displaced workers do for a living?  Same thing for health workers with the introduction of a universal antidote.    Star Tek style transporters are a commuter's wet dream, but can you even begin to fathom the number of peeps that would be rendered destitute if we no longer needed our transportation infrastructure?  And where would governments get their taxes from if these industries disappeared?
No Extra-Terristrial intelligent life would/should come here.

Why would intelligent life come here when the dominant species ........
..... kills each other
..... kills -> dissects -> learns -> kills some more -> dissects some more, what it doesn't understand.  Then when it does figure out what it is, it tries to determine whether it's food or fuel.
..... has no problem killing itself as long as it takes you w/ it.
I don't think knowledge of visitation necessarily endows us with the knowledge of the technology, should it exist. Finding scraps and accomplishing reverse engineering is difficult, but if the knowledge exists of new power technology, such might power an extraterestrial craft, you can bet the "Band of Brothers" are doing their best to put it to use.
I suspect no one int he world believes the cover story of Roswell and other such incidents, it's unfortumate that some of the tales are so outrageous that it becomes next to impossible to separate fact from fiction.
You have to consider that there are hundreds of thousands of (known) galaxies, each with BILLIONS of stars, each with orbiting planets.  There's definitely life out there somewhere.  The question that begs to be asked is, "why the government cover-up?"  I speculate that it is because governments realize that if people knew, with certainty, that alien life exists, we would finally see past our differences (race, religion, etc.) and unite as a species, as man-kind.  With that kind of unification, governments would be unnecessary and there would be a whole lot of unhappy (and unemployed, unpaid) beurocrats...
Never seen litle green men or a flying saucer. However, I was involved in a UFO situation in the mid-1950s, while in the Air Force. We had an airborne target picked up performing maneuvers human kind reportedly is not capable of. The object was tracked by more than one ground radar station and several aircraft. We were ordered not to list the object as a UFO.

Because of Mr. Mitchell's direct association with NASA, etc., I see some credibility here.  I also am aware that military and commercial pilots have been ordered not to report UFO sightings, particularly if they want to keep being pilots.  
I'm sure there is intelligent life out there somewhere. They may even be visiting us, but I don't know for sure. Until something more than "I saw..." or "I heard..." materializes, we must remain somewhat doubtful, all the while maintaining hope.
People aren't ready to deal with the truth (if it exists) of aliens visiting. Some people still think women/blacks aren't 'real people'; people still think that God created the world in 6 days...people just aren't ready. Maybe in time, but not now.
Will they ever be ready though? I think the more important question is "Are people really ready?", not "Do aliens really visit earth?".
I absolutely beleive Mr Mitchell's views on UFO'S and  Alien's! He has walked on the moon and has extremely high knowledge of what the goverment and Nasa have been hiding for years. He is a highly intelligent man and would not be one to put his self up for ridicule or say things which would damage his reputation. Anyone who believes we are the only living things in the whole universe have been living under a rock. They are even written in the Bible..
Why does our government spend billions of dollars on radio telescopes?  The cost to design them, build them, run them and maintain them are extraordinary.  And for what?  To listen to the stars?  Most likely to communicate with E.T.s instead.
All those questions and scores of others that are predicated on alien contact of so intimate a nature are very insightful. How is it that so relatively omniscient and omnipotent and, apparently ubiquitous according to this latest evidence, beings could be so easily frustrated by scores and scores of mendacious egomaniacs? If not hostile, then they must be ambivalent. Why are they wasting their time here among us? Obviously, these beings are as capricious and essentially irresponsible as humanity and, thus, of little import to our human condition.  Thus, why are we wasting our time speculating about them?  Let's get to work on our problems. Humanity should emulate Voltaire’s advice to tend to our garden.
I have very little doubt that life is able to and does exist on other planets.  The potential in our Galaxy alone is huge for host planets. Have they visited us?  Who knows?
Will people EVER get tired of these fairy tales?  Once again we get, "I didn't see it myself, but 'reliable' sources have told me about it.  If we are really being visited by aliens, why isn't there even ONE clear picture of a spacecraft?  Most of the supposed 'witnesses' to UFO events are not people whose word I want to take.  I will not say that visits from aliens are impossible.  To my mind, there is just NO creditable evidence to support such visits to this point.
Very sad that such a distinguished person would succumb to belief in fairy tales.
To possibly answer Lynwood's question, the answer is to maintain the status quo.

If we no longer depended on oil, certain powerful people would find themselves out of a job.  If terrorism ceased to be a source for fearmongering, certain powerful people would find themselves out of a job.  Things won't change because the people in control fear it.  So long as they can maintain the status quo, they can retain their power and status.

/end conspiracy.

Eh, in the end, it matters little for someone like me.  I'm just one of the many trench-workers at ground level that keeps the country going.
It's great that Mitchell and other Astronauts have come out on this subject, they where in the loop on this subject and it gets no more crediable!
You have to ask your self.. What did they see on the way to the moon? What did they see when they got there? And is that why we haven't been back to the moon? They (Aliens) have been here since the begining and have never left. We have mounds of data on this subject and still no one belives. If you want proof Look in the Bible! There are hundreds of accounts through out the text, They have been seen as God since humans could write! Ezikel chapter 1 thru 28! just as an exampel. Open your eyes and stop being blinded by government cover up. And if their not a threat why the cover up world wide? We have millions of credable wittneses around the world that have seen UFO's yet we only have a handfull of people investigating these account, this is where money should be spent! We have a right and an obligation as a race to find out everything we can about these aliens. The Knolege would take us to the next level of human evolution in no time. Picture of disk shaped objects are depicted in ancient hyrogliphs,paintings on caves, art work from the midle ages, in every country around the world and we still don't have a qlue as to what, why, or how. Come On!
I have to say that the new light being shined on the subject makes me happy.. but we are not doing enough, in the media to bring this forward, and it would be the greatest discovery in human history! Who wouldn't want that story!? The Media is not what it use to be! It use to be about getting the truth to the public but now it's all about ratings and what you can spin. Well spin this! It's worth it! Your ratings will go through the roof and people want to know!
R.Kennerson
On Apollo 14, wasn't he also the one who attempted to conduct his own, secret and unsanctioned, ESP experiments while on their way to the moon? I think that about sums it up.

Reference Andrew Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon" for full rundown of that part of the story.
Here we go again - little gray/green/pink/rainbow colored men!  I am totally willing to accept the possibility of ET's, but why do they have to be created in the image of man?  Think of all the possible worlds where there are energy and elements to create advanced molecules and start the process going.  How about a gaseous based life - could work great on a high-G planet like we have discovered.  Or a methane/hydrogen based type, for cold planets?  Or how about an energy based - we are working in that direction with artificial intelligence - just what might evolve in the heart of a star or in a plasma around a star?  Some of these could easily take the accelerations and long periods of inactivity that might be required to travel between star systems.

I can accept the ability and will of the government to bumble and hide things like an ET contact.  But when we start to make them in our image, my credibility starts to get pretty stretched.
Cover up?!?!?

Are you blind?

I've been ON THEIR SHIPS. IT IS REAL!!!!!!11
GREAT THANGS TO GOT BECAUSE THE PHILIP CORSO AND EDGAR MITCHELL  THEY BROKE THE SECRET SILENT FROM THEESE COSMIC PHENOMENON AND TODAY I KNOW  AND ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS PLANET THE TRUTH AROUND THE UFO
"says he was told that powerful alien beings have been among us for 60 years and that government officials have been carefully covering up that fact."

So what?  I've "been told" that too.  Doesn't make it true.




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