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Messianic message stirs debate

Posted: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:50 PM by Alan Boyle


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A foot-wide stone tablet is said to bear Jewish
messianic messages from the first century B.C.

Scriptural scholars are abuzz over a stone tablet that is said to bear previously unknown prophecies about a Jewish messiah who would rise from the dead in three days. But there are far more questions than answers about the tablet, which some have suggested could represent "a new Dead Sea Scroll in stone."

Do the tablet and the inked text really date back to the first century B.C., as claimed? Where did the artifact come from? Can the gaps in the text be filled in to make sense? Is the seeming reference to a coming resurrection correct, and to whom does that passage refer? Finally, what impact would a pre-Christian reference to suffering, death and resurrection have on Christian scholarship?

Such questions are being addressed this week in Jerusalem, at an international conference marking the 60th anniversary of the Dead Sea Scrolls' discovery. They're also being addressed in reports about the "Vision of Gabriel" tablet that have trickled out over the past few months.

That trickle flooded onto the front page of The New York Times on Sunday, in a story that quoted one professor as saying some Christians would "find it shocking" that Jewish scriptures prefigured Christian theology.

But Hershel Shanks, founder of the Biblical Archaeology Society and editor of the Biblical Archaeology Review, said that such a linkage really isn't surprising, let alone shocking.

"The really unique thing about Christian theology is in the life of Jesus - but in the doctrines, when I was a kid, you had little stories about the Sermon on the Mount and the people listening to this saying, 'What is this man saying? I never heard anything like this! This is different,'" Shanks told me. "Today, this view is out. There are Jewish roots to almost everything in Christian experience."

This revised view comes through loud and clear in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which chronicle the spiritual and even the sanitary practices of a Jewish sect that existed around the time of Jesus. It was the similarity to the style of the scrolls that first brought the "Vision of Gabriel" tablet to the attention of archaeologists.

How the tablet came to light
The 1-foot-wide, 3-foot-tall (30-by-90-centimeter) tablet has a checkered past: According to the tale that has been woven around the stone, it was found near Jordan's Dead Sea shore and sold by a Jordanian dealer to Israeli-Swiss collector David Jeselsohn a decade ago. A few years ago, Jeselsohn showed the stone to Ada Yardeni, an expert on ancient Semitic scripts, who consulted with another expert, Binyamin Elitzur.

Yardeni's take on the tablet, published in the Hebrew-language journal Cathedra and in the Biblical Archaeology Review, was that the text was of a style going back to the late first century B.C. or the early first century A.D. - right around the time when Jesus would be growing up.

The 87-line text was written in ink, not inscribed in the stone, and it was laid out just the way one would expect on a scroll, in two nearly even columns. "If it were written on leather (and smaller) I would say it was another Dead Sea Scroll fragment - but it isn't," Yardeni wrote.

The text appears to be a set of apocalyptic pronouncements from a personage named Gabriel - hence the name given to the text, "The Vision of Gabriel" or "Gabriel's Revelations." Biblical Archaeology Review has put the Hebrew text as well as an English translation online.

As you'll see by reading the text, there are so many gaps that it's hard to make out exactly what is being said - but even those fragments were intriguing to Israel Knohl, a Biblical scholar at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Back in the year 2000, Knohl had written a book titled "The Messiah Before Jesus," contending that there was plenty of Jewish precedent for the Christian messianic story. When Knohl read the Cathedra article and looked into the tablet further, he saw new evidence for his thesis:

  • He reconstructed one phrase to read, "In three days, you shall live" - which would be an eerie parallel to the Christian account of Jesus' resurrection on the third day of his entombment.

  • He deduced that the phrase was addressed by Gabriel to a "prince of princes" who was slain by an evil king.

  • Based on his previous research, Knohl even suggested that the text referred to a Jewish rebel leader named Simon, who was killed by Herod's army in 4 B.C.

Knohl laid out his case for interpreting Gabriel's vision last year in an essay for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz and wrote up a more scholarly analysis for April's issue of The Journal of Religion (which you can read by following the links from this Web page). He's also due to discuss the tablet this week during the Dead Sea Scrolls conference.

The resurrection-in-three-days angle was the attention-getter for Sunday's Times report. But many steps in the scientific analysis of the tablet still have to be verified, starting with the origins of the stone and the inked text.

Faith-based archaeology?
"This story has the big caveat of 'where did it come from?'" Mark Rose, online editor for Archaeology magazine, told me. "Someone knows where it came from, someone found it, someone sold it."

The field of biblical archaeology has had its share of controversies over artifacts that may or may not be genuine - most notably the ossuary of James and the "lost tomb of Jesus." Rose said the tablet would have to face the same kind of scrutiny - and could well end up in an archaeological limbo, neither verified nor debunked.

"You want to look at these stories as having to do with faith? Well, there's a lot of faith involved," he said.

Shanks, who was caught up in the earlier debate over the ossuary (a.k.a. the "Jesus box"), has faith that the tablet ultimately will prove genuine. Some of the most exacting judges of antiquities have been taking a close look at the artifact - and the tablet appears to be passing the tests so far.

"I don't think that you'll find any competent scholar who will call it a forgery," Shanks said.

What does it all mean?
Even assuming that the stone tablet (and the ink writing) are accepted as dating back to the first century B.C., scholars will likely struggle over how the scriptural fragments are pieced together. Perhaps the best way to firm up Knohl's textual interpretation is to find parallel texts elsewhere, as others have done with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Then there's the question of what effect the "Vision of Gabriel" might have on Jewish and Christian belief.

During the troubled times into which Jesus was born, Jews yearned for the rise of a messiah who would emerge as a powerful military leader and throw out the Roman-backed regime.

"You have in Christian theology a very different kind of messiah, a messiah who's going to shed blood and atone for your sins," Shanks observed. "Where the hell did this come from, baby? Are there elements of this in Jewish messianism?"

The Dead Sea Scrolls have already shown that the idea of a suffering messiah was part of the cultural milieu back then. If the tablet's text and its three-day messianic interpretation are verified, it could shrink the theological gap between pre-Christian Judaism and early Christianity even further. But that shouldn't come as a shock, Rose said.

"Is this going to redefine the relationship between Judaism and Christianity? I don't think so," he said.

Believers might say the "Vision of Gabriel" is yet another scriptural foreshadowing of Jesus' actual death and resurrection - while skeptics might say the text provides more evidence that the gospels fit into a tradition of untrue messianic tales.

What do you think? Will the "Vision of Gabriel" become a religious bombshell? Will it fizzle out? Or will it turn out to be just one more interesting twist in the saga of scriptural scholarship? Feel free to weigh in with your comments below.

Update for 10 p.m. ET July 7: For what it's worth, in today's AFP report on the tablet, Knohl is quoted as saying the text could "overturn the vision we have of the historic personality of Jesus." I suspect many of the commenters would contest that claim. An unnamed Israel archaeologist, meanwhile, is quoted as saying, "It's very strange that such a text was written in ink on a tablet and was preserved until now. To determine whether it is authentic one would have to know in which condition and exactly where the tablet was discovered, which we do not."

Update for 11:55 a.m. ET July 8: Keep a watch for the September-October issue of Biblical Archaeology Review, which will have an article by Knohl on the tablet. And if you're intrigued by ancient Jewish lore, you simply have to plug in to the PaleoJudaica blog, which has been covering the "Vision of Gabriel" controversy for months.

Update for 2 p.m. ET July 8: Ben Witherington III, a New Testament scholar at Asbury Theological Seminary, got back to me after his morning seminars on the church fathers and added some insights. Here are the main points:

  • As we've mentioned already, the first task is to confirm that the ink-on-stone text is authentic: "Writing on stone - not engraving, but writing - now, that's weird. ... The problem, of course, is that this thing is unprovenanced. We don't know which cave this came out of."

  • Witherington thinks Knohl is overreaching in his interpretation of the text's significance. "His view is that 'we now know where the gospel story came from. ... It came from this Jewish belief.' My response to that is that you've connected more dots than we have on the page."

  • As numerous commenters have already noted, there's ample foreshadowing of a suffering messiah and the concept of resurrection in the Old Testament. For those who are keeping score, Witherington noted Isaiah 53, Daniel 12 and Daniel 7. "You could come up with this idea with absolutely zero connection between whoever wrote the stone and whoever wrote the gospels. I don't see this as having any major shocking impact on the discussion."

  • Nevertheless, the "Vision of Gabriel" is not a yawner for New Testament scholars: "It's important, if authentic, because it provides more evidence - if we needed it - that Jews believed in bodily resurrection. ... There is a school of interpretation out there, represented by the 'Zeitgeist' movie, saying that these ideas of resurrection came from Egypt. What this would show is that, no, this is something that was in Jewish literature. We have absolutely no need to posit a pagan origin for these kinds of ideas."

For more from Witherington about the tablet and its potential significance, check out the discussion on his blog.

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Jesus died and lives again,we are seeing everything as the bible has said.the bible also states that the rocks will talk.Must we continue to doubt?I dont think so.
This is just another piece of mythology which will be interpreted in many ways by religious people to fit their particular fantasies. The day they'll find a tablet from 2000 years ago predicting "the coming of Einstein," and his theory of relativity, I'll kneel down and convert.
well, the bible is pretty clear about Jesus being the Messiah.  Even Jewish scholars have to agree that the compelling evidence is there and it says that the word of GOD will be the ultimate truth.  I suppose only time will tell who is right.  God says his word will stand forever.  Too me, that is forever, no matter what those in the 21st century say.  Time will tell.
I doubt that this discovery will change anyone's mind. Those who accept a more literal interpretation of the Bible may see this as further confirmation. Those who believe the Bible is just so many myths and fantasies will see this as just another log on the funeral pyre of Christianity. As for me, I cast my vote with the latter.
Not a Christian here, nor looking to debunk Christianity. Believe what you will, however I think this stone will and should have little relevance in swaying anyone one way or the other. At best it proves nothing, at worst it's a forgery.
wow,this is very interesting.i view my chirstan belief as the contiuation of judism
Just read carefuly Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 and think for yourself. That is the picture of the Messiah and with just not much thinking you will see whos spoken picture that is. With so many others scripture, that isn't necessary to have anything else, yet it is good to see if those really look Biblical in all its entirety.
Chalk up another Hit for the Book of Mormon - its Filled with this kind of stuff - and criticised roundly for it....Just another lucky guess.
Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same God, in significantly different ways.  Do we emphasize the similarities as "brothers" or the differences as competitors?  
I find it so interesting that people are surprised that there are Jewish roots to the Christian messiah, as if this were some new discovery!  If the tablet is authentic, it only adds weight to the Christian doctrine that Jesus Christ fulfilled all the Jewish prophecies for a messiah.  Jews thought the messiah would be a powerful political ruler, but the prophet Isaiah spoke of a suffering messiah hundreds of years before this tablet was written, one who would be "pierced for our transgressions" and "crushed for our iniquities" Isaiah 53:5
Even if there is a source for a resurrected Messiah in Judaism, the most important distinction between Judaism and Christianity is Judaism’s steadfast belief in the absolute unity of God that precludes  the believe in the Trinity or the corporeal bodily incarnation of God. These doctrines are not found in Jewish scripture and were most probably introduced into Christianity as a result of Greek and Roman influence.
The big question is: can it be dated? Anyone can write on a stone, but if the stone and the writing can be dated somehow to even 100 or 50 years before Christ, then you have something. But if 100 or 50 years after, then it means nothing.
Okay, so they found a rock that supposedly predates Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, so it appears to predict what was to come.  If it turns out to be authentic, my personal reaction would be "so what?"  Jesus predicted his own death and resurrection himself, so why would the same thing written on a rock be anything special?  The main thing people ought to care about, where Jesus is concerned, is that a totally harmless person was brutally murdered, and he shouldn't have been.  It doesn't matter that he knew in advance that it would happen and that he purposely allowed himself to be killed.  The real question is-- why did he do that, and what will be its ultimate result when he returns?
"There are Jewish roots to almost everything in Christian experience."

No kidding!  The same God inspired the Hebrew (Jewish) Scriptures, the Aramaic Scriptures, and the Christian Greek Scriptures.  Jesus quoted extensively from "Jewish" Scripture and said at Matthew 5:17 that he came to the earth "not to destroy the Law (the Jewish Scriptures)" but rather "to fulfill."  He then went on to impart the value and validity of the Hebrew scrolls that he had been studying all of his life.  The apostle Paul (Jewish, BTW) also stated that "the Law (Hebrew Scripture) has become our (the Jews') tutor leading to Christ."  Jesus himself was Jewish, the apostles were Jewish, and the first wave of Christians were Jewish. In fact, the faithful Jews of Christ's day were looking for a Messiah because the Hebrew Scriptures pointed the way to one arriving on the scene in their generation.  They even thought John the Baptist might have been "the Christ" (Luke 3:15).

Jesus' Jewish contemporaries were, indeed, saying "'What is this man saying? I never heard anything like this! This is different,'" but for a completely different reason than this Shanks assumes.  The audiences listening to Jesus were accustomed to having their rabbis "cite their sources," if you will, but Jesus spoke upon his own authority. For example, at Matthew 5:27, as part of his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus stated the following:
"You heard that it was said, 'You must not commit adultery' (Jewish authority).  But I say to you that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart (his own authority)."  So this view is not "out" because true Bible scholars already acknowledge the "Jewish roots to almost everything in Christian experience."

Many Hebrew texts prophesied about aspects of Jesus' birth, life, ministry, and resurrection, as well as his post-resurrection role in Heaven.  This finding should not be surprising to anyone well versed enough in the Bible to know that there is much more to Jesus than "little stories."  
As a Roman Catholic, this (a prophecy about rising from the dead) makes perfect sense to me.  We are rooted in Judaism.
I have always maintained that God was created by man, but Religion say it's the other way around. Just look at the way all religions are structured - men are dominant in all of them.

Einstein said that "the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

Why should people be so surprised that "Jesus" was not special? Religion is for people who cannot or would not accept reality.
Faith in God himself what matters. The example of Jesus Christ as a son of God is a wonderful way to live your life. Artifacts are of little value to one's ultimate quality of life and progress toward being like our creator.
God has a way to talk to the world to prepare them or warn them of things to come. Because people do not recognize a person of prophetic ability does not mean it is not so. I do not believe this debunks christian text, it reinforces it.  If anything it should make us ponder what he is trying to tell us, he is God and he is in control and he will have things come to pass no matter how many people he has to use to get the message out.  Above all, Jesus is the son of God and their is only one way to the Father, hear ye him, he points the way!
I don't see what's so shocking...

There are hundreds of messianic prophesies in the Old Testament that mirror Jesus' life, death, and resurrection.  
This, along with other religious "discoveries" is a fake designed to wean people off of their religious convictions.

The Bilderbergers and the New World Order gang have been running this scam for decades now.

The purpose of weaning us from our religious convictions is to make us more reliant on existing, state-run references of "good" and "evil," and to remove many of the barriers we hold -- based on moral grounds -- that prevent us from participating fully in the material/self-aggrandizing environment that is necessary to fully institute a self-generated police state.

I know there's a lot here to get the mind around.

But we have to start somewhere.

Don't forget that the New World Order cultists in the Whitehouse right now founded their own "religion" on the Baconian assumption that Atlantis truly existed, that Atlantis is the United States, and that the current political and aristocratic elite in the US and worldwide are heirs to its "glory."

These people are absolute nutcases who want to destroy the current world and "return" to the old world, in which they believe they were "gods," and that their only purpose was to be worshipped by the rest of us, the "useless eaters" as the Bilderbergers describe us.
The respect between Protestant Christianity and Judaism is actually closer and far greater than the media ever acknowledges as we worship the one true  and same God. Most of us will continue to refer to the KJ Bible and the Torah for factual, historical accuracy as well as for the detailed references in Daniel's and John's prophetic words regarding the end times, not the news media or hollywood (more accurately "hollywierd's) versions and twisted interpretations.  
it turn out to be just one more interesting twist in the saga of scriptural scholarship
Jesus was a jew who rose from the dead in three days. What more can I say.
very good article. I am in the middle of a great book on doing similar research into the validity of the "new" findings presented fron old discovered texts. It's really fascinating how these folks can date these just by writing styles or knowing what was happening in history at the time to validate. The book is by a former editor from the Chicago Tribune and is called "The case for the real Jesus". Whether you are religious or not; it backgrounds the methodology of verifiaction.
Look, it doesn't even appear to be properly translated, it's hard to date a stone,or even the markings in a stone, to say it's 1st century BC? Where does that come from?

Doesn't seem to specific does it? Also Jesus was not the only one to "die and be raised in 3 days", nor the only man/god of that time period to be crucified. If you look back, the Man/God death and resurrection story was going strong through the mediteratian are around 1-3bc.   They were also all born on the shortest day of the year and resurrected at or near the spring equinox.  

I consider myself a Christian, but I'm not going to grab onto something like this as fact, that is nothing to prove it's legitimacy. Shoot, I could dig out a stone from the area and claim that this is where Jesus fed the 5,000! From this rock!  

Point is, this is even less substantial than the tomb of Jesus, which is questionable at best.

The point it guys.. lets stop this historical search for proof. To find proof would deny the power of faith. Faith is what drives out believes, if you could prove it, it wouldn'tbe faith.. so no, this is a waste of time.
Hopefully religious people will realize that the text in the bible is just as dubious as that found today.
I don't understand what the big deal is.  Current Old Testament prophets foretold the coming of a messiah and of suffering and dying and a third day resurrection.  Assuming this is the real deal, it would only seem to confirm what previous texts already foretold.
I see no inconsistency in the facts as laid out in this text. Political problems may persist amongst those " learned" folks, but  Christians do believe in the Bible, both Old and New Testament. If "Man" has erred in interpretation in the Middle Ages, so be it. Let's not get hung up on technicalities
The proof is in the pudding.... But I have little doubt it will affect the Jewish religion in any way.  They've denied His truth for over 2000 years.  It would take a miracle to change that.
The Catholic faith has always taught that the Jews were holders of the Old Testament faith.  This Old Testament faith forshadowed the new, which would be the Catholic faith.  Whether this tablet is authentic or not does not matter in the spiritual sense since the Jews have already rejected their savior.  In the physical sense, Christ used the Jews own prophecies to show that his birth, death and resurection were what the prphets were in fact talking about.  This tablet (if authenticated) would be another proof that they have missed on identifying their messiah.
This is no shock that Jewish scripture describes a Christian belief.  This makes perfect sense and only confirms Christianity.  Christ was Jewish and so was everyone else that wrote in the New Testament and even much of the Old Testament.  This is no shock.
This is cool.
Gabriel you may find is one of the Lords of the seven rays. Wisdom and Vision.
I beleive you can speak to Elizabeth Clare Prophet
for more on Gabriel.

Should the tablet be proven authentic, I believe, from what little was referenced in your article, that the tablet would reinforce the already acknowledged intricate connection between Judaism and Christianity.  Once, again, science supporting the faith and belief system of fundamental Christianity.
' Finally, what impact would a pre-Christian reference to suffering, death and resurrection have on Christian scholarship?'

The OT already has several prophetic statements about the coming suffering messiah. Psalms 22 and Isaiah 53 are just a couple. Jesus himself said that the prophetic scriptures stated that he would suffer and die. The jews just didn't see the gap between him coming as a lamb and then later as a lion. This stone doesn't change anything but just further confirms the realiablity and validity of the scriptures we already have.
This concept of a 3 day resurrection does have a scriptural precedent in the Old Testament.  It was part of the rain fertility cult of that time and was associated with the mourning for the dead Lord [Adonai], followed later by rejoicing for the risen Lord [Adonikam] who was also Baal Hadad or Hadad Rimmon, and possibly also Adoni Yah, who replaced Baal as the god of storms in the religion of the southern Yahwists.  

Hos 6:1  Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Jas 5:7  Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

Mat 24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth [ land ]  mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Zec 12:11  In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadad Rimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family [tribe] apart.............All the families [tribes] that remain, every family [tribe] apart, and their wives apart.
The doctrines and additional scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (nicknamed "Mormons") have always taught that Christ and all the rest of us have existed since long before our mortal birth, and that Christ was the Jehovah of the Old Testament. We also assert that "many plain and precious things" such as these have been deleted or changed in the Bible, originally during a great apostasy that occurred during the first two centuries A.D. (Today, of course, you can go to any bookstore and find over 50 different versions of the Bible, some of which have done the same thing).

Whether or not this tablet is authentic, we can answer all the Christian/Judism questions raised in this article because we are Christ's Restored Church, founded and continuing on the basis of direct revelation from God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ.  We exist to prepare the world for Christ's second coming.  Let our members and missionaries talk with you.    
The Jesus story is rife with references to Old Testament prophecy; Jeremiah and Micah...Luke and Matthew wrote from a perspective that Jesus was fulfilling prophecy by constructing a story based on Old Testament (Jewish) prophecy. This discovery would certainly support this scholarship, if proven credible, otherwise, it doesn't really matter since there is excellent scholarship already supporting this notion. This stuff is wonderful headline grabbers, but does little to making the Kingdom of God (peace and love) real for today.
No matter what ideas the "experts" scatter back and forth,unless the new finds parralel the teaching of the bible, I will put them in a frame, hang them on my wall as interesting artifacts.  Then delete all the comments.
It only reveals motifs in the Jewish tradition, which were later intentionally spliced in to the story of Jesus to bolster the notion that he was the messiah.  Another example: the similarity of the Passover story and Herod's effort to kill Jesus (Matthew 2:16)
Well...to me this is a confirmation of the accounts of the bible.  There was always a close tie between pre-Christian Judaism and early Christianity.  As a Christian, I've learned that the origins of Christianity are from Judaism.  From Abraham, through Moses to the Last Supper (celebrating the feast of Passover) it is tied together.  In fact when Moses received the ten commandments he was also told to keep the passover tradition.  The two are and were unseperable until Christ.  

It is great to see a historical tablet that supports the tie between the two.  In Christian history we've been taught that there was expectations of a messia and there were many pretenders.  The profits fortold of a messia so seeing it in "writing" is uplifting.

The writers of the bible likely already knew about this block or atleast its prophecy when they wrote the scripture, so is it really much of a shock that they would write it to fit the prediction perfectly?
This examplifies how ignorant even Christian Americans are about the Messiah, Jesus Christ.  This article talks about a link between Judaism and Christianity.  Duh.  Jesus Christ fulfilled over 300 messianic prophecies, meaning prophecies from the Old Testament.  Our LORD surely knows how to throw 'em a curve, doesn't He?  Just when the jews take over the bulk of America's media and use it to bury the fact that Jesus is the Messiah, Jehovah comes through with yet another revelation.  Hallelujah!
Oh great, here comes the freight train of "I-told-you-so's" And even if it turns out to be a forgery, they will still be baying like hounds for the next three decades.
The Jews of the First Century wanted a temporal deliverer but got Jesus who told them his Kingdom was not of this world. The tablet could be a prophecy of Jesus but like Nostradamos' writings it is vague and subject to various interpretations. Genuine or not, will probably not be determined until the Second Coming.
It is much too early to make any judgments about this tablet. Anything is merely speculation at this point in time, even though there will be both Christian and Jewish persons who will read their own interpretation into the tablet.
Please... The Old Testament Prophets, and occasional Psalm, and even some of the books that the Jewish tradition call the Torah "give utterance" to the Messiah who is to come.  What does it portend for ole' Christian... what has always been known: - That He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, His Name is Wonderful, Counselor, Rose of Sharon, The Bright and Morning Star, Prince of Peace, Emmanuel, Jesus...

So to answer your question: The Good News continues to be Good News, however it is Ultra-Good News and  mayhap be a bombshell to those who have walked the path of disbelief.  
In taking the phrase "In three days, you shall live" as a reference to the Christian’s Jesus before the full context of Gab’s writing (who, what, where, when, why etc.)  is known would be very unwise it would seem.  It would not be unheard of for a Christian to jump to this conclusion however.  Well meaning Christians have been doing this sort of thing since Philip interpreted the Hebrew scriptures to the Ethiopian eunuch, and the other Apostles -including Paul- wrote their stories of Jesus.
The Tablet and ink writings are interesting finds, if we could just ‘fill in the blanks’ and know the real context of Gab’s writing.
Ron Allton, Palm Bay, FL
It should be no surprise that the Tanakh (Old Testament) would speak of a suffering Messiah, for Jesus himself made reference to it.  
"Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Messiah.  From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples (from the Old Testament?), how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.  Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee" (Matthew 16:20).  
After his resurrection, it is recorded:
"Then opened he their (the eleven disciples’) understanding, that they might understand the (Old Testament) scriptures, and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Messiah to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day" (Luke 24:46).

While Jesus does not give the exact references, one may suspect the following to have been among them: Daniel 9:26, Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, and Psalm 69, Jonah 1:17.  Readers will notice a number of exact fulfillments in these passages.  As for the Jonah reference, Dr. E.W. Bullinger says in his "Figures of Speech used in the Bible," p. 845, “The expression 'three days and three nights' is an idiom which covers any part of three days and three nights.”  He cites 1Samuel 30: 11, 12, and 13 as proof as well as Esther 4:16, both of which use the former expression and then explain it to be “the third day.”  The “third day,” may be reckoned from Jesus’ death Friday the 14th Abib to Sunday the first day of the week, exactly as the Pascal lamb was to be slain on the 14th of the first Jewish month (Exodus 12:6) and the “firstfruits” of the harvest offered on the following “morrow after the Sabbath” (Leviticus 23:10), in other words Sunday.  

Whether the stone in question proves to be real or fake does not alter the testimony of these passages to which it is likely Jesus himself referred.  
Boy! That's some ink! Too bad that today we have no durable inks that write on stone and can weather so well as to leave any message at all. Or maybe we do. Either way it would sure be nice if everyone didn't get their panties in a bunch over this stuff while having a little faith in science. There's some stuff that works!  CH
No surprise here, even if the stone may not be authentic. We American Christians have forgotten that Jesus was/is the Jewish Messiah promised by the God of Israel in the Hebrew Scriptures. That Jesus is also the universal Lord, Savior, and Head of a mostly Gentile church is a testament to God's limitless grace, offered to all the world as promised by the Hebrew prophets. We Gentiles should be thankful that God has grafted us into the story of salvation as well (Romans 11:17).


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