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Revving up electric cars

Posted: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:15 PM by Alan Boyle

Contests and cars are made for each other, as demonstrated every year by NASCAR and the Indy 500. But what about contests to create less polluting, more fuel-efficient cars? The GOP's presumptive presidential candidate, John McCain, weighed in today with ideas aimed at revving up the age of plug-in hybrid vehicles. Will those ideas take root? As usual, the devil is in the details.

In his speech on energy security, McCain suggested a $300 million prize for better batteries and a multimillion-dollar tax credit program for cars that emit less carbon. Those ideas will take their place in the public debate alongside a couple of other prize programs that are already moving ahead:

  • The privately funded $10 million Progressive Automotive X Prize offers an extra payoff for commercially viable vehicles that get the equivalent of more than 100 miles per gallon, while satisfying stringent emission standards. Most of the 70-plus teams on the X Prize list are working on all-electric or hybrid vehicles. The finals are planned in 2010.

  • The federally funded H-Prize program, signed into law late last year, sets aside millions of dollars for advances in hydrogen-based power technologies - and leaves room for future private contributions to the prize pot.

McCain's presumptive Democratic rival in the presidential election, Barack Obama, has his own ideas for encouraging energy alternatives, keying on increased support for biofuels and research into more efficient hybrids.

A lot of attention has been focused on Obama's ethanol connections - at a time when the biofuel strategy has gone through its ups and downs (and ups again?). In contrast, McCain has embraced the new belle of the energy ball, plug-in power: His $300 million prize program would reward companies that produce car-worthy batteries at 30 percent of current cost.

Companies such as GM and Toyota are already scrambling to find better batteries for their product lines in 2010 (such as the Chevy Volt or Toyota's plug-ins). Do they really need more of an incentive to pick up the pace? Andy Frank, a researcher at the University of California at Davis who has been working on hybrids for 30 years, says the extra cash would help.

"What the car companies are doing is sticking their toe in to test the temperature, so McCain is saying, we've got to do this now." Frank told me today. "I think McCain is trying to get the big guys to jump in the pool instead of testing the waters."

Frank said a reduction in battery cost is not only doable, but absolutely necessary in order for plug-in hybrids to make a difference in the auto marketplace.

"Right now, batteries cost about twice what they should. You need to get the cost down by a factor of two," he said.

In Frank's view, bringing down the cost of batteries shouldn't require a radically new technology, such as the ultracapacitors that are often held out as the route to power paradise. He said lithium-ion batteries, which are starting to make their way into automobiles, should do the trick - assuming that the industry can standardize big time on the right technological approach.

"You've got to get the volume up to about 50,000 or 100,000 units a year. ... The problem is that the battery technology is there, but there are about nine ways to do lithium batteries," Frank said. "In order to get the high volume, the car companies have to cut down the focus to a specific technology, so we can get the supply of lithium down to a point where this particular number is achievable."

A $300 million incentive could coax the car companies to ramp up production more quickly than they would otherwise, Frank said. "High volume is what drives the price down," he said.

The $5,000 zero-emission tax credit would also help. In fact, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said this spring that the Chevy Volt would cost $40,000 or more to make, and that it would take government incentives to bring the price tag closer to the original target of $30,000.

There are potential downsides to the prize program approach:

  • The proposal could be perceived as pandering to a public wearied by $4-a-gallon gas.

  • The program might be seen as a giveaway to a multibillion-dollar industry that already has enough free-market incentive to use better batteries.

  • If the prize is established, the government might be tying up money without knowing exactly when (or if) it would be paid out.

  • The prize would target a particular technological approach to the potential exclusion of others (for example, better biofuels or better mass transit).

  • The biggest downside would be if the rules for the prize (or the tax credits, for that matter) were written with loopholes big enough to drive a gas guzzler through. Today's speech doesn't have nearly enough detail to make a judgment on that score.

The reaction to McCain's proposal from the blogosphere has been mixed. (Isn't it always?) Autoblog Green's Domenick Yoney says "it all sounds pretty good," while Climate Progress says it's just "another energy gimmick." What do you think? Feel free to add your comments below.

Update for 11:30 p.m. ET: I fixed the references to the battery cost reduction to bring them in line with McCain's proposal.

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Who cares about the money prize....think of your children / grand children of the future.....that is the reward......do you see any other planets like this in our solar system?
I predict a $30-40,000 electric car will not be a marketing success.  And has anyone figured out how to quench a lithium fire yet?  If I had the big dollars, I would go with research on advanced NiMH batteries and get a city electric car on the market pronto.  If you could produce one for $12,000 even with a limited speed of 45 mph (not 25 mph like NEVs)you would sell zillions immediately.
How quickly they all change their minds when the " Political Gun " is put to their heads. McCain wanted no part of alternative energy source funding. Now he's on the band wagon. How convenient. And Obama is apparently held in the pockets of the powerful wrongway, Ethanol Gang !
Electric is highly efficient with the right batteries or ultracapacitors. Biofuels still pollute! Hybrids still pollute! Charging an electric at night in your garage sounds awfully inexpensive, and it sounds doable.
I'm for Obama, but I like that about McCain.  Almost enough to think about voting for him.  Energy Security is a HUGE issue that has been ignored by our government for way too long.
This is an absurd waste of money.  The company that develops the "prize winning" technology will be making 100x that amount marketing and selling it. It would make  far better sense  putting this money into up-front spending for research and development projects (ie. funding innovative research with higher impact potential).
I think the government needs to follow the example of Israel on electric cars, - manage the building of a standard car, build the intrastucture and get us out of the gas car business. We have been held hostage to that too long. Israel is doing it. others are following suit. Why can't we?
Frankly, I'm willing to put out the $$ if it gets us off of foreign, especially Venezuelan, oil, and get our economy off of the oil speculation rollercoaster.  I'm tired of sending our money to dictators so they can hire thugs and buy weapons.
"If the prize is established, the government might be tying up money without knowing exactly when (or if) it would be paid out."

That's funny.  Like the government has a fixed budget that it follows to the penny, never spending more than it has.

I would rather see this money put to funding research into various green technologies. Electric cars sound great, but if their electricity is coming mostly  from coal-fired power plants they aren't exactly "zero emission". The same is true of hydrogen cell technology-- the hydrogen would be generated by electrolysis from water, a process which requires electricity and hence emissios. I am happy to see McCain addressing the issue, but his proposal isn't much good. I'd like to see more details on his proposed cap and trade system-- how high will the cap be? Will he give away free credits to coal and oil companies? Until McCain has answered these questions, Obama retains the edge on this issue (despite his support for ethanol at a time when corn is in great shortage) because of his proposal to double federal funding for green-technology related research.
First, if the Volt will cost $40K to make, then it's no wonder GM is in the shape it's in.
Frank may well be right about Li-ion batteries, especially if any of the new manufacturing methods, i.e. nanowire or thin-film, for silicon anodes proves commercially doable.
Ultracapacitors (i.e. electrochemical v. electrolytic, which If I had my druthers would be thetarget technology since they charge quickly and can dump tons of juice into the power train on demand) are largely the fruit of research by Standard Oil dating back to the 60s (golly, wonder whey they didn't work harder to commercialize them? You'd almost think they had a stake in some OTHER energy source.) I don't think they really qualify as "radically new technology", but then nobody's asking me.
As far as the prize goes, who will determine who wins it? If it's going to be some Congressional committee, we might as well burn the money, we'll get more energy out of it.
CEO of A123 batteries had private meet with George Bush last year to show lithium battery pack that fits in Prius spare tire space and gives it 400 mile @ 60mph range (google A123, killicycle,etc.). What ever happened to that? The techno is HERE, the big boys are covering it up and manuevering to capitalize on it
Think of a new way to tie a knot in a string. You get a lot of fancy loops... but it's still just a string with a knot in it. Isn't it time to think beyond the string. Mass transit doesn't have to mean moving a mass of people in the same container to the same place. Don't change the knot ... change the string.
GM is NOT developing auto batteries. They are USING them in their upcoming Chevy Volt. The batteries are being developed and will be manufactured by the competitor who wins the battery contract, NOT GM.
 GM is an AUTOMOBILE manufacturer, not a battery company. Savvy??  JEEZ!!
My thoughts. It took the United States with the direction of Kennedy and the theoretical brawn of NASA to put men in space and on the moon and that was in no way shape or form as important for the United States or the entire planet as getting us off the dependency of oil. We split atoms in the 40's to save thousands of US and Japanese lives. We landed two pieces of machinery on a plant 35 million miles away from Earth and they have surpassed their life expectancy many times over. So to have Mccain give away a prize is to say idiotic. Currently the FCX is built and ready to roll. What needs to be done is the infrastructure for hydrogen needs to be started and started now. Also an air powered car has been invented in France. If we truly truly wanted to. The US has the resources as well as the know how to make this happen. It amazes me that all Congress has done is bring in the heads of the oil company making record profits and just asking them questions. Ok in the Exxon board room the discussion is..you know we are going to get hammered by congress right? The answer yes but that is all that is going to happen. By the time they get the backbone to do anything we will have made an incredible amount of money before it comes to a head, the writing is on the wall for alternative fuels is there lets get as much as we can while we can. It does not take a genius.
It is past time to move off the standard we have accepeted as OK. The greatest inventions and discoveries have been the result of trying something better or finding a cure. We as a people owe more to mankind and its future. It would be helful, but not neccasary to have a political arena that supports this.

toss 'em a bone and let's see what they do with it...it works with packs of dogs, don't it?
Corporations and politicians for some reason don't think of their grandchildren that way.  McCain is talking to them in their own language.  He is a major party sell-out though, so everything he says to us is meaningless, of course.
Coming from a Republican? Gimmick...
How can I apply for a government position that will oversee the putting together of a system where electric cars will be the norm? I want to apply for that job, and I can make it happen. It's very easy. Just use common sense and make sure to not get influenced by oil company lobbyists...
Why doesn't the publishers of these stories do a little home work and find out about the companies like Valence Technology, Austin, Texas, that has off the shelf safe  LiPo4 ready to go? They're shipping to commercial fleet manufactures in Europe. There are others too. Do some home work and tell the battery companies stories which are the heart of any hybrid.

Yes, Kerry, you're right ... I misspoke when I said that the car companies are scrambling to create better batteries. They're scrambling along with other companies to create better battery systems. For example, there's the (earlier) partnership between GM and A123 to create the Volt's battery system:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/08/gm-and-a123syst.html

Here's an update on the battery issue that indicates GM is still looking at suppliers for the actual production model:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=592065

In contrast, Toyota's batteries are said to be made by a company subsidiary, Panasonic EV Energy:

http://www.smartmoney.com/breaking-news/ON/index.cfm?story=ON-20080611-000008-0024

Ford is involved in a joint venture with Johnson Controls-Saft (and several other entities) for the batteries to be used in its test fleet of Escape PHEVs:

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/06/10/089529.html

Chrysler has teamed up with GE for its latest PHEV venture:

http://www.nema.org/media/ind/20080623a.cfm

I rather doubt that any carmaker would simply buy batteries from a supplier for use in a plug-in vehicle. To my mind, it's more likely that there would be a subsidiary relationship (a la Toyota) or a joint venture. However, I have to admit that this isn't my beat ... it's just a "cosmic" interest of mine that I indulge every once in a while. So you probably know more than I do about how these things work.

Altairnano has built the siver bullet battery already.  They are just waiting for inverstors or the government to recognize what McCain is now articulating and let the economy of scale kick in.  Here is a link to their website:
http://www.altairnano.com/markets_energy_systems.html
Agreed.

It is far easier to clean up a few hundred Power Plants powering a nation full of electric vehicles than it is a few MILLION individual automobiles burning gasoline.

This is not even considering the cost of petroleum.
GM killed the electric car in California in the 1990s even though the owners loved them because gas was too cheap.  No one was allowed to keep a single one.  They were destroyed by GM.  Now they should call back all the Humvees, Yukons, and other guzzlers to save the planet.
I like competition.  McCain has truly changed the debate.  True the potential profit is there, but generally the government is the impediment to real progress.  For instance, do you really think it was the car companies, or the government, that makes new products so expensive to bring to market?  What about the lawsuits that every manufacturer has to take into consideration with innovation?  What about the money companies spend to obtain protectionist laws from politicians?  I would love to see a $300,000,000 competition.  What a great experiment?  At least its a novel approach!
Where is it in the Constitution that the Federal government has the power to run contests and give away money from the public treasury for prizes? The 10th makes plain that the individual States retained, and so only have, that power.
Wayne, that bridge has already been crossed with the DARPA Grand (and Urban) Challenge...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21625291/

... and the NASA Centennial Challenge:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18474732/

I'm not a constitutional lawyer, so I can't help you further on this one.
36 years after the last "oil crisis", US car manufacturers are barely further along at improving fuel efficiency than in 1972.  This is the crowd we want to throw subsidies at in order to innovate?  I thought GM pretty much put the nail in that coffin with their EV1 debacle.  10 years after the US Prius launch, GM is still studying concepts.  I say let business fend for itself.  Economic Darwinism is a beautiful thing.  Since when should we force any company to innovate?  Where is the corporate self-interest in economic survival?  Before we start bailing out companies with blank checks and interfering with free market forces, we should take a look at whether these firms are disadvantaged in the marketplace or not.  A failed business model is no reason to provide assistance.
Alan, just because it has been done does not make it constitutional -- to wit, since when are the fundamentals of "true" law based on whatever the Federal government can get away with; and, so, may be used as a precedence to somehow make legitimate that which was not legitimate to begin with?
Just because it's been done, doesn't mean it's constitutional.  If it did, the consitution would be 20,000 pages long and sound suspiciously like a communist manifesto.  Most politicians are bad men spending your money.  Every dollar they spend costs the people two dollars and the poor much more(inflation tax).  Food for thought.  
Watch "who killed the electric car".  GM had a plug in hybrid in California when the state was mandating a zero emissions car by a date certain.  GM put some of these on the market until the automobile dealers could get the emissions mandate overturned at which time each of the plug in hybrids were required to be returned to the dealer or risk penatly of law and destroyed.  People who leased the cars begged to buy them but GM wouldn't sell them for any price and wanted to basically erase that the vehicle ever existed.  Call me a conspiracy nut but when the oil, insurance and auto industry wants anything done it gets done despite the will of the people.  This isn't anything new people.  It's just the same old money makers putting the same old carrots in front of us to let us think they are working on the problem while they are really working on ways to squash enthusiasm for changing the way things have been done in their industry.  They don't want to change and you can bet if McCain gets elected there won't be any change.  Where were these grand ideas of his before today?  He's been in government for decades and hasn't effected any real change so why would we think he could as President?  Didn't McCain have enough leadership skills to get anyone to follow him?  He is a war hero but he is not a leader.

Dont' support the GOP (GAS AND OIL PARTY) for a third consecutive term of "stick it to the people".  Get a clue!!!!
I THOUGHT GAS WAS CHEAPER THEN ELECTRIC..HOW LONG DOES A NUC.SUB RUN ON ONE CHARGE..MAYBE COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THAT CAT..SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A SMALL PELLET COULD PROB. FUEL A CAR A LONG TIME..MAKE IT SO YOU CAN TRANSFERE THE PELLET FROM ONE VEHICLE TO ANOTHER WHEN YOU GET RID OF IT..MAYBE IT'S TIME TO WATCH THE "JETSONS"
a prize for battery innovation?? the innovation isn't the problem its getting car companies to listen. take the 300 mill and put up more alternative energy. if it is 1 mill to put up a windmill for wind energy that's 300 more in the country and that much less coal in the air. we don't need more studies or research. The KNOWLEDGE is there.... use it!!
simple little things that cost little help. for every car bought plant 2 trees.  if its a suv plant 10!  successful ev trials were 10 years ago...we should have had all that time to perfect the concept instead of crushing the cars. How do we get the car companies to believe we do want evs on the road? I am afraid what happened then will happen again... promised cars will roll out in 2010 lease only the be abruptly "recalled"  and crushed.
the car is already made; it's technology already here..All it needs is my idea to install generators to capture energy from the rotation of the tires, instead of using the small gasoline engine to recharge the batteries...I has 160 horsepower permanant magnet electric motors in each wheel, giving it 640 combined horsepower eliminating internal combustion engine , transmission and bracking system. This car should resupply it's own energy by it's own motion down the road...a small gasoline engine might still be needed to keep power supplied when at stops..    
I like McCain specifically for this reason. When necessary he will break out of the mold of "Republican vs. Democrat". It should be "America as a country before party" that is something McCain understands in his core. After nearly being killed for this country and being a prisoner for 5 years I think "country before party" is in his bones.

Obama's recent broken-pledge on presidential spending limits.  I'm afraid many will be disappointed when they find out thist is just the first of many broken promises from him. The reason Obama is running now is he doesn't have a voting record and he can say what ever he wants on the issues. He is a blank slate, but once you pull back that carefully worded speech and slick presentation to you really know him.  
I'm probably way off base here, and as interesting as a concept that this is, I have 6 year old triplets that I drive around in a minivan to have enough space for them and all their gear for sports and dance. What am I and all the other "soccer moms" supposed to do - strap them onto the roof of these tiny little vehicles? I'd love a hybrid or other alternative fuel vehicle in order to do my part to help the environment, but the size of most available isn't feasible for a larger family, and the cost of the ones that are large enough is too prohibitive to even consider. What solution do the politicians have for that?
if government put a 50th of the money they did into hydrogen into batteries we would already have a viable technology. plug ins are exactly what we need fuelled by nuclear power.
its about time for politicians to wake up. great job mccain.
and everyone knows that ethanol is garbage. especially when you look over the live of it, it usually has even greater carbon emissions.
In order to do these things and stop out dependency on oil, we need to get rid of the oil lobbyists. They are the ones who are holding us back from cutting our dependency on oil.
Who is advising John McCain ? Really... all you can do to solve our energy crisis is to offer a 300 million dollar prize. Every day he comes up with a doozy.
What a can of worms this change-over to battery powered cars is. It's going to cost the The heaviest hitters with the most money to LOSE to come out swinging, It's going to be ugly, and they are already trying to cover their asses with higher then neccessary cost estimates for what it's going to cost you and me, They will try to turn this into a bonanza, like the gold rush, heaven help us, U.S. A.
Just some thoughts...  There may be some politics in here as I see there are some above who also are critizing politicians and or parties.
1. We need to have a program of getting more oil to the consumer to bring the price down so people can keep the economy going.  Keeping the economy going, means we have to have a way to go to work cheaply enough that we can afford to go to work.  Why work if it takes a good portion of your pay check to buy gas?
2. As Mr. Obama travels in style -by Jet - (using more fuel on one trip than most people will in their adult life with their car), just to get your vote, he wants "US" to "cut back" on "OUR" use.  That means, you will not be able to go on vacation, go visiting grammy if she lives out of town and you might just as well walk to the grocery store with your little red wagon. (and not a station wagon or SUV).  While he continues to travel to get your vote and buy his wife those purrty dresses. Oh ya, we can't say anything about her.  He will get mad.  Sorry.
3. We need more oil for gas and diesel, (FOR NOW), then we need to keep up the alternative fuel R & D process.  Mr McCain at least has some type of program to get us to the alternative fuels without breaking our backs.  
4. If you think $4.00 gas is high, most countries like China, Iran, Iraq, etc., subsidize gas to their consumers.  When we cut back as Mr Obama wants, do you think we will have a surplus of gasoline?  I doubt it.  If we cut back, the refineries that are overseas and make up a majority of our gas suppliers will either cut back in production, or sell to the other countries willing to spend the subsidized money.
5.  Alternative fuels.  To use alternative fuels, you will need to "BUY" a vehicle that will use it.  Do you think you can convert my ole 1996 Silverado into an electric Hybrid?  I think not.  Or at least I can't.  Bio-Diesel is coming to the neighborhood, but my 1996 truck (20 MPH) and wife's 2005 car (30 MPH) run on gas.  To purchase both vehicles that wouldn't get much more milage per gallon than what I get now on Biodiesel, will cost about $50,000.  My whole house didn't even cost that much 8 years ago.
A battery-gas hybrid Silverado cost $25,000 today and gets a whopping 20 MPG.  Plus I would have to put my snow plow on it and use the electric cut out to run on gas in the winter months while plowing.  
6. So if you are a politician that wants my vote, give me enough gas to keep me working (employers too).
Give me more Nuclear power to warm my house and read emails by.  Give me solar power (every roof in the west and south should have a panel on it).  Give me more wind power.

Here is what Mr. Obama wants to do to change us: Change we can really believe in!!
A. Increase my taxes on my Dividends and from my 401K and IRAs.  I don't need them anyway.  Give them to someone in the city that wants to take a train to work.   I can't have a bus or train in the country anyway.
B. Increase the FICA taxes to 50% so I can't afford to buy fuel, food or clothing and my employer can't afford to keep me working.  That way, the people that are going on SSI in 25 years will have something to spend while Mr Obama increases the taxes on the SSI I will get in a few years.
C. Make a two tiered class system. Tax the 2 % rich and give to the 10% poor so the rich pull up stakes and move to a cheaper country.  Make sure they take their companies too, so I as a middle class person, I can lose my job and sit on my porch all day and whittle while it falls around my head. Maybe I can qualify for some of that rich man's money.  While you're at it, tax the profits of all oil companies.  Oh by the way, Coke made more than some oil companies last quarter, so tax them too.  They make way too much.  Damn greedy Capitalists!  How dare they take the risk and get all the gains.  Buggers!!!
D. Start using the Race card today, so people pay attention to that and not to the agenda for the America we will be burdened with if he becomes POTUS.
 
I agree with Charles in Boulder, Co. to a point. You're right, US automakers have been stepping deeper and deeper into the quickly drying concrete beneath their feet; However, $300M is NOTHING to the US government. (How much did the USS New Hampshire, just launched, cost us?, how much has Iraq cost this nation?) Any "little" incentive helps, and $300M is alot of money to a troubled company like GM or Ford. I think it can only help the task laid at their feet.

Electric is the way to go for many reasons. 1. Infrastructure. Every house/garage has an outlet, and if they don't, they can be installed very cheaply. Apartment parking spaces could have them installed as well. 2. Batteries are (for the most part) cheap, and if millions are made en-masse, they will become even cheaper as free-market forces cause competition. 3. Renewable, free, and clean source of electricity right over our heads. If even 10% of the homes in America installed photovoltaic cell panels on their homes to charge these cars, imagine the savings to not only for the families, but to the enviroment! It would definitely cut down (some) of the need for coal-fired generators. I would support massive gov't subsidies on solar panels (and solar farms in sunny climates) in addition to tax credits for purchasing electric cars.

Hydrogen power is not the answer -not yet anyway; a viable economic version is still decades away (like fusion power) We need something NOW! Even if the technology WAS ready, billions would have to be spent on creating a Hydrogen fueling network across the country, not to mention the fact that gallon for gallon, hydrogen is horribly ineffecient compared to gasoline. Finally, anyone remember the Hindenburg? All those cars with hyrdogen in a big pile-up on I-5? Hazmat teams would have kittens before they would even approach the scene of that accident!

Don't even get me started on this whole ethanol nonsense! What a load of crap! Lets drive the cost of food up EVEN MORE! I would love to see a grain elevator topple onto the knucklehead who came up with that idea! Talk about sticking a knife in an already wounded economy!

Electric car technology is within our grasp. We have the know-how, the reason ($4/gal gas) and now the financial incentive (if its real; i'll believe it when i see it, etc,etc..)We don't have to wait 10-15 years for this hydrogen fantasy! Electric Now!

-this coming from a guy who owns muscle cars from the 60's and 70's -but who would love to drive something daily that cost next to nothing to operate!
Unfortunately, we have a mostly criminal government the principals of which flout the constitution with virtually no threat of punishment.  Spending public funds on this project violates the constitution.  McCain is just pandering for votes.  If we wanted a man who knew and loved the Constitution we should have nominated Ron Paul.  Also, $300M is a laughably small sum for the wonderful technology McCain describes.  Yes, I am a constitutional lawyer, with more than a few battle scars for the trouble.

Talk, talk, talk. That's is all we do about the problem.  Stop talking and act.  Nothing gets done by talking.  If I'm not mistaken, either Toyota or Honda just announced they have a small device that extracts hydrogen from water and will move a car along at 30 miles to the gallon of water.  The consummer needs to buckle down also and change their transportation habits.  It is every bodies problem and everybody has to share the blame for the mess we're in.  Stop talking and act.
The auto makers can produce a 200 mph car tomorrow with today's technology.  Batteries are completely unecessary when you can use carbon fiber flywheels to store the electricity generated by an onboard fuel cell.  Make a streamlined body of the car out of carbon fiber, like the military does with jets, and you've get an ultralight, ultra fast, ultra aerodynamic auto.  See http://rmi.org and read some of Amory Lovins' white papers if you don't believe me.  He had this figured out 10 years ago, when the climate crisis was supposedly debatable.  I say keep the powerplant running when the car is parked, sending extra electricity into the parking meter which pays you instead of charging you, and oh look, you've got a decentralized renewable energy grid.  Wow, what a lot less pollution.  Why didn't idiot John McCain propose that?  He'd rather give handouts to the big automakers who are heavily invested in producing rolling oil-burning smokestacks and who finance his campaign.  Vote McCain, kill the environment!  
ZERO emission car? Sounds nice, but right now it does NOT exist in ANY form. At least for now. Plug in electrics still emit carbon and other nasty pollutants and waste byproducts, just not when your using it. When you are charging it where do you think the power comes from? Right now the majority of it comes from a coal burning power plant. Same for hydrogen. How do you think they seperate the hydrogen from the oxygen, with electricity. And every time you make an energy conversion such as burning coal, or separating (making hydrogen), the combining of molecules as in a fuel to make electricity, and the converting of the electricity into motion through a motor, you have waste in the form of heat, which is THE greenhouse issue isn't it? That seems to make hydrogen fuel cells the moste wasteful of all since you have at least 4 energy conversions before the wheels on the car will turn. My personal opinion is that we should be putting the money into solar power and energy storage. The sun will last a lot longer than supplies of coal, oil, or natural gas. And the energy is there for the using, if the big 3, big oil and D.C. will let us. Or will they see to it that we wring out every last drop of petroleum before that happens?
What are we waiting for? Is there a more logical solution to breaking our oil habit? It also puts corn back where it belongs, on the table, world wide.
Prize for batteries doesn't seem good. Tax credit for buying cleaner vehicles is a good plan. If it wasn't for the tax credit I wouldn't be so interested in compressed natural gas vehicles. Please look at CNG combined with a hybrid vehicle. No one sells a hybrid combined with CNG But Honda could combine its Civic hybrid with its Civic cnx and have one now. Compressed natural gas is the answer, not plug in hybrids. Regenerative brakes and shutting off the motor while stopped are good uses for better batteries.
GM already has the ability to build affordable electric cars as shown by the EV-1 built in 1997 and showcased in documentary movie "Who Killed The Electric Car?".



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