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Ready to rumble in Reno?

Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:30 PM by Alan Boyle


Courtesy of Cal Orey
Cal Orey says her Brittany spaniels, Simon
and Seth, help her predict seismic events.

Tiny earthquakes have been swarming near Reno for weeks, and seismic experts are trying to gauge whether things are settling down or heading toward a bigger rumble. All this is making some of the region's residents jittery - including Cal Orey, who lives near Lake Tahoe and issues earthquake predictions based on such things as headaches, pet behavior and moon phases.

Orey made headlines when she called the current wave of shakers in advance - and now she thinks a stronger quake could hit by the end of this month. To be specific, she's predicting a 70 percent chance of a magnitude-5 to magnitude-6 quake in the Reno/Tahoe/Sierra region by the end of May.

"I'm not saying 100 percent," she told me today. "But it's likely."

Seismologists don't tend to put stock in such predictions, as I explained in a report about quake forecasting a couple of years ago. However, the practical effect of what the experts are saying is pretty much the same: Be prepared for a Bigger One.

"We can't predict earthquakes, but we are using the publicity that this sequence of events has generated to try to encourage people to be ready for a large earthquake," said John Anderson, director of the Nevada Seismological Laboratory at the University of Nevada at Reno. "The issue is preparedness."

Anderson said the rumbling in Reno began in late February, just a week after a magnitude-6 earthquake shook buildings in Wells, Nev. (Orey pointed to a report showing that she predicted that one, too.) At first, there were two or three seismic events per day that measured magnitude 1 or greater. But the activity increased in April, climaxing with a shallow magnitude-4.7 shock that rattled Reno's residents.

"After that we had fairly intense activity, which in hindsight looks like an aftershock sequence," Anderson told me today. "Initially, the rates were dropping down pretty fast, but now for the last six days, it looks like the rates have stabilized at 20 per day. We'd like to see them dropping off faster, which would give us confidence that it's an aftershock."

Can science predict quakes?
Experts have been monitoring the situation with a widely distributed network of strong-motion instruments, supplemented by portable sensors from the Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology. But the sensor readings can't be used to predict with any certainty what might happen.


Marilyn Newton / Gazette-Journal via AP file
Keith Phillips checks the damage to his house in
Mogul, Nev., a suburb of Reno, on April 26.

"While the heightened probabilities of an earthquake in the next few days might seem dramatic, the probability never really goes down to zero," Anderson said.

He said that goes for other quake-prone areas as well: "These earthquakes are a good reminder for anybody anyplace in the country to be ready to take the very simple precautions that one can find on a dozen Web sites."

Will there ever be a scientific way to predict damaging quakes? Some alert systems have been set up to provide a limited amount of advance warning that a major shaking is on the way, giving emergency agencies a precious few seconds to protect critical infrastructure. The warning systems, pioneered by Japan, are designed to detect the precursor seismic waves that come before more damaging waves.

"We've thought about that, but for this particular source zone and for downtown Reno, this type of warning is not going to give people much help," Anderson said. At best, there would be a second or less of warning. And there's no scientific way to predict a quake days in advance, he said.

Can people predict quakes?
That doesn't stop "earthquake sensitives" from trading predictions on Web forums such as Earthquake Epi-Center (which Orey co-founded). Some sensitives speculate that they are picking up on magnetic fields that may be precursors of seismic activity - and that they feel the effect of those fields as headaches, nausea or anxiety.

Orey agreed that the idea sounds crazy. "I've had people say how their body hurts before a quake, and I always thought they were wacky," she said.

But now she numbers herself among the sensitives, and often takes cues from her cat Kerouac and her two Brittany spaniels. "I realized that humans can be just like animals, and they can fine-tune these senses," she said.

Orey's mentor in the field is retired geologist Jim Berkland, who looks for links between quakes and the potential effects of the sun and the moon on Earth's tidal flexing. Orey saw a link between the Wells earthquake and February's total lunar eclipse. Now she thinks tonight's new moon as well as the full moon at mid-month may give an extra "nudge" to Reno's seismic activity.

"It's playing out the way I knew it was going to," she told me.

By the way, Reno isn't the only focus of Orey's predictions: She also sees the prospect for seismic activity rising this month to a magnitude of 6 to 7 in Northern California, around Eureka.

The prediction game is a bit like playing the slots in a Nevada casino, in that a few successes can make up for a host of failures: If Orey is wrong, her forecast will be little-noted - but if she's right, it might earn yet another headline. Is Orey going out on a limb, or is she merely playing the percentages? Feel free to weigh in with your comments below.

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a sharpened sensitivity to magnetic fields should be studied, especially in light of documented effect on honeybee populations and flight and homing disorders. Bats too perhaps?
I am from California and staying over the May 26th Holiday at the El Dorado. Not worried about the shaking, been thru 2 big ones in the San Fran area so I know what to expect. It is our 52nd Anniv, maybe we will get the big bang!!!!
There is no mention of the faulting in the area and no mention of magma on the move deep below. If the earth decides to open up, hello volcano..goodbye Reno!
I live in North Carolina--The day before hurricane Fran hit in 1996 ( this was my first experience with hurricanes) I had one cat that acted peculiar all day--meow, meow all day--I ignored her--also thought the storm was not going to be too bad 200 miles inland....Wrong!Eye wall passed right over us--my point is --I believe animals are very sensitive to the nature environment--this case was barimetric pressure--should bear consideration.
To Harry Coleman:  Your point is very well taken.  This phenonomen should be studied.  I am very worried about the bee thing and its result effect on plants & food production pollination.  I consider it a public health issue.  thanks  Rhiannon Vaughan
I'd be interested to hear what's causing these quakes - most of the quakes around Japan and California are caused by the edges of the Pacific Plate rubbing against neighboring plates, but there's no plate boundary near Reno... or Illinois for that matter.
Well.  John Travolta of Phenomenon seem to Know when the Earthquake was going to Happen.  
We provide earthquake forecasts and predictions updated every two days for California.
Harry, it has also been recently theorized that whales use ancient (now often broken by earthquakes) lines of highly concentrated magnetism to navigate globally through their annual migration cycles.  So I agree, dismissing something as hogwash without studying it, could be one of science's greatest mistakes.  (Ask Galileo...)
After reading about Cal Orey, my right knee began to knock. That is my fraud sensitive knee.
Please... people in Reno are frazzled enough without you adding quacks like this to the fray.  If I predict a "3.5-7.0+" earthquake everyday, eventually I will be right... it does no matter than her predictions are as frequent as her change of shirts... quack, quack, quack... she does not predict them based on her pets, or anything else... this is just the way she controls her anxieties.  pretends she know what is going to happen... please, try to be a more responsible journalist and not spread panic without justification.

I do believe there are some methods and solutions that could predict earthquakes... but not crazy wackos like this this lady and her pets (if you think i am being harsh, check our her web site and draw your own conclusions)
I do think there's something to be considered outside the realm of "hard" science. Whenever there has been seismic activity I become nauseous and often dizzy. But remember, people like me don't havr the fancy degrees and rely on grants and government funding to live.
I wonder if this could all be related to the "super volcano" in Yellowstone?  God help us all if it is...
I highly doubt that there is much magma activity below Reno. The area had vulcanism when it was a subduction zone, but this type of activity has not occured in a long time. The California coast would see more activity than Nevada if this type of movement had started again. Subduction zones are now located in the Cascade range. Aside from that, the harmonics are wrong for magma movement. What's odd about these quakes is that they are shallow. Very shallow. The 4.7 was just over 1/2 of 1/10 of a mile beneath the surface! You could walk that quickly! It is possible that a small fault plane may be settling between the Mt. Rose and Peavine faults. Now magnectic fields, I feel that does have a play in predicting quakes, but I need more time to review more data.
People have been trying to determine whether earthquakes create magnetic field precursors since the discovery of the seismic dynamo effect in 1999, and so far, they haven't found anything. Rather anything above background noise levels.  If there are magnetic field precursors, they are either so weak as to be indistinguishable from background signals (therefore undetectable), or so gradual that they haven't been noticed yet.

I'm not saying there might not be precursors to earthquakes, I just seriously doubt magnetic fields are it.
So here is my question, There is a strange unexplained swarm of quakes near Reno, another offshore of Oregon, another I read of off shore from San Francisco and yet another in the Aluetians. All very strange and confusing to geologists, because of the way they happen, their depth, and all occurring at roughly the same time. Can't say I know anywhere near enough to draw any conclusions to what it means or where it leads, just seems like a very unnerving coincidence to me. I have yet to see any articles that bring that point up, even to just debunk any thought that they may somehow be related. The ring of fire just seems to be extra active lately. That or the news is better at reporting every little quake.  
First time in 1000 years that the volcano in Argentina?  erupted also. Plate tetonics? Faults by New Madrid shifting? Hang On! Ocean side property in Salt Lake coming right up!
Are these earthquake swarms related some how to volcanic activity in the Mammoth area in the nearby Sierra Nevada mountains?
I believe all of this is very interesting, and I'm sure that the right people are studying what they need to be studying to try and figure out what's going to happen, if possible. As far as Animals and "sixth senses" are concerned, I wouldn't say they don't exist. Take birds for example. Long before a storm actually hits, you will never see a bird flying in the air nor will you hear it's singing. They know when it is approaching, and they take refuge before it hits. The same thing happens with Deer, Horses, and many other, different animals. I had a German Sheperd a number of years ago, and an hour or two before a Storm would hit, he would sneak his way down into the Basement, even though he had arthritis is all 4 of his legs. So why wouldn't we have the same ability?
You know what's funny about the magma flow theory?  Slide Mountain in Washoe Valley gained half an inch in elevation a couple years ago.  

There was a brief article stating this event, and many geologists surmise a vent is forming within the granite.  
Folks,
I have experienced this kind of controversy now for 34 years, every since I found that I could predict earthquakes, contrary to what I had learned in ten years of geological education and eleven years of working with Federal geological agencies. Read WHEN THE SNAKES AWAKE, by Helmut Tributsch or THE MAN WHO PREDICTS EARTHQUAKES, by Cal Orey for abundant evidence.  Keep eyes, ears and MIND open to Nature's teachings.
Geologist Jim Berkland, MS
Simply put. Welcome to California.  I went through the Lake Oroville earthquakes, felt the Loma Prieta and the Coalinga earthquakes.  This is why CA has the strictess building codes in the nation.  Heads up to other states you too can have earthquakes.
Just keep in mind Iben Browning.  If you don't remember his name, Google him.

It's one thing to say you predicted a quake after the fact, such as Orey claims she has done with the Wells, NV quake.  It's quite uite another to publicly announce it beforehand.  Show me the statistics that such predictions work and I'll believe it.  Until then, I'll take science.

Charles Richter wrote in 1977, "Since my first attachment to seismology, I have had a horror of predictions and of predictors.  Journalists and the general public rush to any suggestion of earthquake prediction like hogs toward a full trough."

Enough said, I think.  If you need more convincing, see:
http://geology.about.com/cs/eq_prediction/a/aa030903a.htm

Perhaps Mother Earth is just mad as heck that we are pumping all that oil out of her...you can't convince me that we can just take and take without messin' up her innards!
Magma could be a factor in this case.  South Reno has a nice size geothermal power plant.  My ex brother-in-law lived about a half mile from the plant.  His well [56 ft] water came out at 140 degrees [Fahrenheit].
Anyone been watching Old Faithful in Yellowstone?  The Reno quakes are a signal that the supervolcano in Yellowstone is getting ready to blow!  Remember folks, you heard it here first!
I agree with Gouganga that all of these events occouring at near the same time should have scientists considering that they are related to a single source. At the same time I do not debunk any claims by individuals that they or their animals have some way of feeling subtle changes in the force of nature relating to these events.
Hey rcpollitz, don't forget that we're due for one ourselves pretty soon.  That ocean side property may have to wait!
Like Gouranga in Charlotte NC, I have been watching both Coastal Oregon and Reno. I have noted that the other shifts near and around New Madrid {Indiana and MO} all going on at the same time.

I wish that Experts in their respective fields would get together and explain to the rest of us why or why not these various events are not related.

I watch Iris {The Global Seismic Net} and I notice that when we often get clusters of earthquakes close to simultaneously, globally that all share roughly the same Magnitude as well.

While I understand we get thousands of quakes all over the world, to have these unusual swarms, that increase in magnetude in 2 areas, Oregon's has been explained as appearing to be Volcanic in nature. And to happen at the same time, while simultaneous moderate to large quakes in other areas that are not normally that active, bears scrutiny And should be addressed to the public if for no other reason than to increase our understanding of these phenomenon.

Mammoth Lake and Yellowstone are known to be mildly active places that have microquakes quite often. Otherwise you wouldnt have the energy to create geysers and hot springs.

I do not discount people being sensitive to the earth and atmosphere. Having to pop your ears when you land in an airplane due to pressure shifts is one common atmospheric sensitivity that most people carry.

And if magnetic or electromagnetic {Piezoelectrical energy} is being released in some areas, it wouldnt take a great stretch of an imagination, to understand how that would affect people and animals directly through their health and even emotional well being {since there are studies that indicate this can directly affect mood and create hallucinations in some subjects}.

That being said. I am sure not all sensitives are created equal. If she {Cal Orey} were my neighbor and otherwise appeared as a relatively normal tax paying, law abiding citizen, and this is one of her only or worst quirks, I would probably take her seriously.

She's probably more accurate than Pat Robertson.
People are like animals in many ways. Orey is not unusual she is just focusing on the ability most have. If more people would realize that their aches, pains and strange moods are coming from the earth then they, too could develop what few people do.
I'm a strong believer in the abilities of animals to sense things we humans cannot.  Their range of hearing is wider than ours, their sense of smell magnified well beyond our abilities, and since they rely on their senses to navigate through life, they tend to pay attention to signals they pick up.  We humans should too.  

Several years ago my Golden Retriever, Camille, became so agitated on a calm night, that I put her on lead, piled her into the car, and drove her around town to calm her down. The dog equivalent of what a lot of human parents do with their cranky babies.  I might add that it was the first time I'd ever resorted to that, but I was totally fed up with telling her to sit, stay, lie down, be quiet, etc.  She was relentless until we got into the car and started moving.  

10 minutes after we returned home, a 4.3 quake hit -- epicentered within 1/2 mile of my house.  My living room looked like "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" as I sat on the loveseat and watched lamps and pictures fly off the tables and walls.  You better believe I pay greater attention to this now!

Cal and a lot of other folks also pay attention -- and attempt to document their animal behaviors to see if there's a pattern.  Makes sense to me, and if we can learn more, that's great.  I just wish I'd taken the mirror I had leaning on the mantle down before I took Camille for her night time ride around Gilroy!  
Louise M...either the media isn't getting nearly enough info or the scientists are mystified or maybe you yourself can save the day and answer all the questions..ok?
my friend is amazing before there is any movement she announces there is one sure enough 100% correct. Some people are sensitive... What's fascinating is more then half we don't feel we have to check with usgs.com how can she sense a mag. 1.3 ????
Sundog... Yellowstone gets its energy from the huge magma chamber beneath it. This also caused the quakes. Remember, Yellowstone is a super-volcano.
Yes, we all live in a very active seismic area, but I agree with Esteban and Reid. The gal in this article is a fraud and just trying to gain publicity in order to sell her books. Anyone who listens or pays her any attention is just as crazy as she is.
I do believe our animals are sensitive and more than we are because their senses are more acute, but like Esteban said, this woman just keeps putting her name out there in the news scaring everybody and then changes her predictions everyday based on which fault line rocks each day. She is a real whack job. Beware the false prophets for they suck the life blood out of you and then bury you alive. There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
Hey did anyone think about that 2.5 mile long underground particle smasher in france???? It smashes atoms together at the speed of light...could it be sending waves of destruction through the core...maybe its not up and running yet
Reno...

I went to school at UNR and enjoyed the engineering labs there on campus.  The Mackey School of Mines is good to visit if your into Geology and plate tectonics. In fact, I was just there over a month ago flying around the lake and airport north of the city.  The problem facing the residents not only in Reno but in Tahoe are the tsunamis created by seismic activity and landslides.  There's plenty of evidence that the Reno/Tahoe area needs to prepare for something in the 7.0+ range.  I think it's an even bet. It's too bad they're not taking odds at the Peppermill.  
I think it is just a matter of logic.  If you look  at the earthquake maps for the last week you will see a concentration of movement in California and Alaska.  These are two edges of the Pacific plate.  In the entire world those two places are really rumbling.  The concentrations of micro quakes are directly over feilds of volcanic activity either old or new.  Reno is the only place that people think it is odd but if you go there and look at the topography you can see it has a very volcanic look to it.  It would not surprise me to find out that in the next few months some volcanic activity happens in the area just like in Chile.
Predicting the future  has always tweaked our curiosity yet a large segment of mankind feels it necessary to make fun of the messenger.
If science and spirituality were taught alongside one another we would have a better understanding of the life forces which allow our very existence.
Working alongside Cal Orey and knowing Jim Berkland's track record I want to state their forecasting is documented well ahead of the events predicted.
As a scientist who works with the ancient science of Astrology I find it is always in the interest of science to document forecasts well ahead of time.
Quantum science understands the sensitiveness of someone like Cal Orey and her ability to relate to the energy around us.
California is headed for a serious major quake and soon. We are so over due and the more over due we get the worse it will be when it comes. Northridge was 1994. This entire state has been vertually dormant. We usually get one like that about every 10-12 years. In between the Northridge and the present we have had nothing to relieve pressure like we have had in the past. I would encourage people who live in California to stock up on nonperishable foods and a lot of bottled water. This next ride will exceed an E ticket ride.
I agree on the sensitivity issue. I think there is more than enough documented evidence to suggest there is something to it with animals. It is not that much of a stretch to point to some humans being sensitive to things occurring in the natural world, maybe even if they cannot consciously feel them. I would think it is definitely worth studying and maybe scientifically documenting the accuracy of these people who claim to foresee earthquakes.
Also, all that being said, I think it is a good idea for any of us to have a health (and reasonable) stockpile of supplied in case of a disaster. Be it an earthquake, hurricane, mudslide, fire, etc it is too late to do it when you are already cut off. A few years ago we got hit with a nasty ice storm here and my neighborhood was without power or a viable access road for a week. it was 45 degrees and sunny the day before the storm and the same the day after. Without our generator, propane grills, and portable heaters, it would have been very tough.
The chinese have studied how to predict quakes for decades. In the '70's (I believe) they had a remarkable success, accurately predicting a big quake weeks beforehand, using the behavior of animals. Then they failed utterly every time since, using this method. The lesson? One success does not turn snake-oil into science. And anecdotes like this, while entertaining, are pure baloney. Currently there is NO quake prediction method that does much better than random statistics. Even living here in FBX I don't pay any attention to so-called "predictions", unless it's to scoff. US and European scientists studied various 'phenomena' like this and concluded long ago there's nothing useful there; far from being a mistake, further study of discredited theories is generally a waste of time. Various more meaningful possibilities are under study, including electrical and magnetic effects. Use of GPS and satellite radar interferometry to detect crustal stresses has had some success.

As far as govt funded science, Charles T., doing that pretty much guarantees one low pay and long hours. Too many people seem to share your stereotype that somehow govt funded scientists fatten themselves on public money, and little else. And those degrees you so blithely dismiss take years of study to earn. Both of these take very dedicated, professional people. Contempt for them is just plain ignorance, Chuck.

Thomas A. & CJ: While most, and biggest, quakes occur at plate boundaries, they are definitely not the only places quakes occur. In fact there are few places on earth that do NOT experience *some* seismic activity. A real worrisome example is the New Madrid fault in the central US which unleashed a pair of huge earthquakes ~200 year ago. If they occurred today they would devastate several large cities.
Ever think about the fact that there is a Fault line ride alon Oregon & Montana... aaaaand.... The San Andreas Fault... and they both run underneath Lake Tahoe, Truckee and Reno!????
I have parrots and live in St. Louis where we were hit with a 5.2 earthquake a few weeks ago. I was woken up approximately 5-7 minutes before the quake hit by my Quaker parrot (Anyone see the irony in that?). I woke up because she was trying to fly in the dark in her cage bouncing around. I calmed her down and checked for broken blood feathers and minutes later the quake hit.

In another twist of irony Quakers are not legal in seismicly active California and a few other states.



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