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Doomsday fears spark lawsuit

Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:00 AM by Alan Boyle


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A hardhat worker is dwarfed by the inner workings of the Large Hadron
Collider's ATLAS detector. Click on the image for a larger version.

The builders of the world's biggest particle collider are being sued in federal court over fears that the experiment might create globe-gobbling black holes or never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet.

Representatives at Fermilab in Illinois and at Europe's CERN laboratory, two of the defendants in the case, say there's no chance that the Large Hadron Collider would cause such cosmic catastrophes. Nevertheless, they're bracing to defend themselves in the courtroom as well as the court of public opinion.

The Large Hadron Collider, or LHC, is due for startup later this year at CERN's headquarters on the French-Swiss border. It's expected to tackle some of the deepest questions in science: Is the foundation of modern physics right or wrong? What existed during the very first moment of the universe's existence? Why do some particles have mass while others don't? What is the nature of dark matter? Are there extra dimensions of space out there that we haven't yet detected?

Some folks outside the scientific mainstream have asked darker questions as well: Could the collider create mini-black holes that last long enough and get big enough to turn into a matter-sucking maelstrom? Could exotic particles known as magnetic monopoles throw atomic nuclei out of whack? Could quarks recombine into "strangelets" that would turn the whole Earth into one big lump of exotic matter?

Former nuclear safety officer Walter Wagner has been raising such questions for years - first about an earlier-generation "big bang machine" known as the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider, and more recently about the LHC.

Last Friday, Wagner and another critic of the LHC's safety measures, Luis Sancho, filed a lawsuit in Hawaii's U.S. District Court. The suit calls on the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN to ease up on their LHC preparations for several months while the collider's safety was reassessed.

"We're going to need a minimum of four months to review whatever they're putting out," Wagner told me on Monday. The suit seeks a temporary restraining order that would put the LHC on hold, pending the release and review of an updated CERN safety assessment. It also calls on the U.S. government to do a full environmental review addressing the LHC project, including the debate over the doomsday scenario.

On Monday, District Judge Helen Gillmor assigned the case to a magistrate judge, Kevin S.C. Chang, for an initial conference on June 16. Wagner said he planned to ask for a more immediate hearing on the request for a restraining order - that is, once he has served the federal government with the court papers.

The case is currently being handled by the U.S. attorney's office in Hawaii, where Wagner and Sancho both live,`but that may not necessarily be where the legal proceedings end up. The Justice Department's Environmental and Natural Resources Division, based in Washington, is also being brought in on the case, assistant U.S. attorney Derrick Watson told me in an e-mail Wednesday.

In Washington, Justice Department spokesman Andrew Ames noted that the court papers had not yet been received. "We don't have any comment," he told me Thursday. "We'll comment in court when it's appropriate."

Debating doomsday
The defense attorneys would likely dwell on the regulatory and procedural questions rather than the worries over a cosmic catastrophe. Those worries have been around for years, and most physicists have scoffed at them for almost as long. The doomsday scenarios raised by Sancho and Wagner include:

  • Runaway black holes: Some physicists say the LHC could create microscopic black holes that would hang around for just a tiny fraction of a second and then decay. Sancho and Wagner worry that millions of black holes might somehow persist and coalesce into a compact gravitational mass that would draw in other matter and grow bigger. That's pure science fiction, said Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist at the City College of New York. "These black holes don't live very long, and they have microscopic energy, and so they are harmless," he told me.

  • Strangelets: Smashing protons together at high enough energies could create new combinations of quarks, the particles that protons are made of. Sancho and Wagner worry that a nasty combination known as a stable, negatively charged strangelet could theoretically turn everything it touches into strangelets as well. Kaku compared this to the ancient myth of the Midas touch. "We see no evidence of this bizarre theory," he said. "Once in a while, we trot it out to scare the pants off people. But it's not serious."

  • Magnetic monopoles: One theory suggests that high-energy particle collisions might give rise to massive particles that have only one magnetic pole - only north, or only south, but not the north-south magnetism that dominates nature. Sancho and Wagner worry that such particles could be created in the LHC and start a runaway reaction that converts atoms into other forms of matter. But physicists have seen no evidence of such reactions, which should have occurred already as the result of more energetic cosmic-ray collisions in Earth's upper atmosphere.

The cosmic-ray argument has been applied to the black-hole and strangelet scenarios as well. If such dangerous things can be created, why haven't they already eaten up Earth, along with other planets, stars or whole galaxies in the billions of years since the universe arose? To answer that question, Sancho and Wagner pose a counterargument: Perhaps cosmic-ray collisions really are creating tiny black holes or strangelets, but those little bits of doomsday zip by too fast to cause any trouble. In the LHC, they say, the bad stuff could hang around long enough to be captured by Earth's gravity and set off a catastrophe.

In response, particle physicists are developing counter-counterarguments -  based on their theoretical work as well as data from astronomical observations and experiments at the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider. For instance, the physicists would say that enough of the doomsday particles still should have been captured by neutron stars or cosmic gas clouds to have an impact. No such impact has ever been seen. Therefore, no doomsday.

CERN spokesman James Gillies told me that a 2003 assessment of the doomsday scenarios was being updated with the new information. Release of that updated report - the one that Sancho and Wagner apparently have been waiting for - is "imminent," Gillies told me.

Questions about the doomsday scenarios may well come up at CERN on April 6, during a public open house at the LHC. Some researchers have gotten the word to be prepared to talk about microscopic black holes and strangelets if asked.

Reality check
Saying something is absolutely impossible doesn't always come easy. Some scientists find it difficult to state categorically that such-and-such a theoretical catastrophe has no chance of happening, and Fermilab spokeswoman Judy Jackson told me that the doomsayers have "cynically distorted" that natural reluctance to rule out even the most outlandish theoretical possibilities.

The doomsaying can continue as long as scientists hold out even a tiny sliver of uncertainty. Jackson cited the example of Paul Dixon, a psychology professor at the University of Hawaii at Hilo who has been saying for more than a decade that experiments at Fermilab's Tevatron accelerator are in danger of touching off an artificial supernova. Dixon is still going strong: He submitted an affidavit in support of the LHC lawsuit filed by Sancho and Wagner.

The current lawsuit could well be decided not by scientific arguments but rather by narrower regulatory issues. On that point, Jackson said that Fermilab has followed U.S. environmental regulations, just as CERN has followed European regulations. "Of course there are plenty of environmental laws and regulations, and they have all been followed to the letter," she said.

However, Jackson said CERN shouldn't be held to U.S. requirements when it comes to operating the LHC - even if the collider happens to be using magnets built by Fermilab. "Just because we built them doesn't mean we have any say over French environmental regulations," she said. 

For his part, Wagner said he hoped Fermilab and the other defendants in the lawsuit would take another look at the doomsday scenarios - and speculated that a restraining order might not even be necessary. He noted that the startup schedule for the LHC has been repeatedly delayed, which would give more time for further safety assessments. (CERN's schedule currently calls for first collisions by the end of August, and the word is that the collider may not reach its full power of 14 trillion electron-volts until next year.)

Wagner suggested that cosmic-ray observations by the Pierre Auger Observatory and the yet-to-be-launched Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope, or GLAST, could shed new light on the debate. "The way I look at it, this should be a basis to look for more funding to find a solution to the problems we raised," he told me.

I'm pretty sure most physicists won't see it that way. They're generally anxious to spend their time and their grant money using the LHC rather than chasing down cosmic improbabilities. The doomsday lawsuit could conceivably be dismissed once it comes up for a hearing - that's basically what happened to Wagner's earlier lawsuit against the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider. But in the meantime, feel free to make your own arguments, counterarguments and counter-counterarguments in the comment section below.

Bonus round: For a different perspective on doomsday, check out this little tale from the late science-fiction great Arthur C. Clarke.

Update for 2:20 a.m. ET March 27: Documents relating to Sancho v. Department of Energy have been uploaded to LHC Concerns, a Web site that voices worries about the Large Hadron Collider. Also, CERN has a Web page that addresses the worries, plus links to safety reports for the Large Hadron Collider and the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider. You'll find more discussion of all this on Slashdot.

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This collider could be huge for the future of science and mankind in general. These scenarios are so improbably that the chance of them happening is basically zero. I could theoretically fall through the chair Im sitting on right now but I won't. Stop prolonging the production of this awesome piece of technology and let scientists figure out how the universe works.
The article was quite thorough. The cosmic ray argument pretty much negates any doomsday scenerio. I'd also like to point out that any particles created by the LHC will most likely be traveling at relativistic speeds and are, therefor, no more likely to be caught by Earth's gravity than those generated by cosmic rays. Any particles that are created that are stable would exit the reactor and be well into outer space in the first second of their existence.
"Could quarks recombine into "strangelets" that would turn the whole Earth into one big lump of exotic matter?"

Alan, you gotta love 'em. Think of it this way. Maybe these quarks, "quirks" could turn into strangelets, and turn themselves into something useful. That would be very exotic, to say the least.

These people are totally off the wall. When will our court system learn to not give these "people" a platform to spit out their garbage, and stand in the way of good science, that will expland our knowledge for the betterment of life on Earth. Including theirs.
My opinion is that black holes need forces that pull the graviton (Some call it a higgs field) from both dimensions to maintain stability.  (In other words, 2 stars or galaxies in the same space in separate dimensions cause the field to stretch infinately thin, and tear from both dimensions) as well as matter transfer that must be maintained in order to stay open.  

So in short, I don't think anyone understands the kind of power it would take to actually make a doomsday scenario, but it is certain that we will never generate that kind of power in our lifetimes.
Next, oceanic life will be singing "Thanks for the fish."
Who really knows huh.  Perhaps they'll be able to turn it on in December 2012...
Given my exhaustive reading on the subject, it is hard not to see both sides of the argument. However, I have one additional point that perhaps should tip the balance. What if, given the big space theory, two heavy elements haven't collided just exactly right (and nearby) to produce some of the nasty forms of matter that are possible.  Even with the vast time scales of the universe and vast number of particles moving around at cosmic velocities, it is still very possible that nothing has hit just right yet or if it has then wasn't subsequently captured by Earth's gravity. Think of the focus required, man.  Yet here we are focusing these particles very precisely in a little corner of the French/Swiss countryside.  This is human vanity and recklessness at its finest.
Could we, just for a moment, please stop being afraid of every little thing we don't fully understand?  This is science, not science fiction.  Let's learn what there is before we hide under our beds from it.
I think this is symptomatic of a lot of the things that are wrong with science.  Science has become so hog-tied by the safety/security/bureaucracy that it is almost impossible to get anything done.  As a result, the overhead rates at National Laboratories are so high that you have 2-3 nontechnical people for every technical person who actually does something useful in the laboratory.  These unfunded mandates such as those proposed by Wagner and Sancho, have largely killed small and intermediate scale experimental science at the National labs.  You just can't afford it anymore.  
Discovery is not made with a consevative mind, if we fear the unknown then we are doomed to begin with.  Blast away!

Personally I think that this is a great achievement and look forward to all of its outputs, success or failure.
anyone here heard of John Titor? He spoke about CERN and mini-blackholes a few years back. look it up. He was right on the money. kinda weird. ... You can go to JohnTitor.com to check out all the stuff that he said about CERN and mini-blackholes.
As our primitive ancestors came out of the cave in the rain, we must learn to respect the lightning and not fear it...  Time will tell.  As a member of the child race known as humanity, I share the concerns of these prophets of doom, however the insatiable need to increase our knowledge of the universe (macro as well as micro) will not be satisfied until we too have been burned by the gift of Prometheus...  Fire the LHC up and let's find out the only way we learn.  
Er, how many cosmic ray interactions with center of mass energies in the 28 TEV range have occured near the surface of the earth in the last few billion years?

How does this number correspond to the numbers of such interactions over the operational life of the LHC?

Remember, most ultra-high energy cosmic rays interact high in the atmosphere and disipate their energy "harmlessly".

I doubt seriously if any appreciable number of 14 TEV cosmic rays have made it into the Earth and released 28 TEV AT REST, so I would guess that Nature hasn't done this experiment very often since the first few microseconds of the universe.

Perhaps AGN events are created by technological civilizations who successfully built LHC machines.  
it aint nothing but money
This is the possibly the dumbest lawsuit I have ever heard, I'm not familiar with strangelets or magnetic monopoles, though both of those seem like pretty crackpot theories. But the idea that an artificial black hole could persist for more than a few micro-seconds is absurd. You would need a mass a million (or trillion) times greater than will ever go through any particle accelerator in order to create a stable black whole.
Have no fear... Any catastrophic consequences would have been (or will be)negated by Capt. Kirk and Mr. Spock after being slingshotted back in time saving the earth. All I am saying is it sometimes takes  scientific fiction to conquor other scientific fictions. But what do I know, I am planning an ocean cruise to Mexico and worry about falling over earths  edge near Cancun.    
This is Completely Stupid of them to do this , No one has ever done this b4 so how could they say things wont go bad , Someone stop these People from doing this , What does it prove and how will it help our day to day living by testing this , Please God someone stop these people.
If I am going to die I would like to do so by being swallowed up by a black hole.  Let the scientists have their experiment.
Lets leave the physics to the physicists, not a couple of nut jobs with no credentials in high energy physics. I hope the legal systems slaps this law suit down for the rubbish that it is.
Well, I certainly don't have enough of a background to say whether the claim has merit. However, if there is even a probability of a doomsday scenario, there should be a full investigation on the possibilities. I understand how exciting the answers to such age-old questions can be if the experiment works, however, the truth is, we still don't know enough about how the universe works to say with certainty that a doomsday scenario would not come into play.
Do you even bother to mention any academic credentials for Wagner and Sancho?  Are they lay people or are they informed?  This isn't like criticizing the first airplane, whether it flew or not there were no potential devastating effects on the whole planter.  This is a big unknown that may create new matter or a big bang that eliminates us.  Its an EXPERIMENT.  The very nature of the word means there can be unknown results.  Also are they looking to find God or eliminate God?  My GUT tells me that this is too dangerous just to find a GUT.  
So what!

If I was a betting man, I'd rather buy a lottery ticket.
I look forward to seeing what they will discover when this comes on line.  I would trust that every activation of the LHC will be closely monitored by so many eyes and so many devices that anything even remotely unexpected would be shut down immedidately.  I hope we find solutions to problems that we don't even yet know exist.  Thats the point of science right?  Gather more information to explain what we don't know and confirm what we think we know already.  This could open the door to solving the energy crisis of today.  I say let them at least try.  There are minds much more brilliant than ours out there trying to answer questions we can't even comprehend.  Fear is a great excuse for not moving forward.
Too late.  Even before it has finished, the Large Hadron Collider has created the strange moron, which threatens to turn every other thing on this planet into strange morons in a runaway chain reaction.  
Oh, please.  Let's bear in mind that even Albert Einstein insisted in a letter to President Eisenhower that testing of a fusion device had the potential to cause a flash-fire in the Earth's atmosphere and trigger a nuclear chain reaction in the world's oceans.  This guy, Paul Dixon, is DEFINITELY a far cry from Albert Einstein (he's a professor of psychology, for God's sake!)...  I say the judges should bow to the professional opinion of today's leading expert in the field - put the question to Stephen Hawking and see if he thinks there is any danger.

Some physicists worry over a cosmic catastrophe! Runaway reaction to atom particles by the set off of the first atom bomb (December 2 1942).
 
My question is this: Should a handful of men have the say-so for all of humanity?

It doesn’t matter what the outcome of the Courts is, they didn’t build this thing to be shut down by unknown theories.

Just because they don’t understand, or haven’t fully imagined the actual events that occurred during the big bang, doesn’t mean they can’t artificially re-create the events again for another universe to be created which will pause time in this universe for as long as that universe exists. Who are we to stop another whole universe from being created? As long as that universe isn’t completely flat and thus never-ending, then we should continue with our time when that universe has ended. Our scientists probably won’t even know what happened.

I hope this goes to court, all you need is reasonable doubt to stop this from happening. If there is even a chance that this test and this LHC can harm the planet then it needs to be scrapped A.S.A.P!! Our planet is in enough trouble as it is.
I LOVE it when people argue that such worries are "just science fiction". Science fiction, as you may have noticed, has a tendency to become science fact. NOT that I'm against such experiments, but performing due dilligence in checking for safety certainly doesn't seem un reasonable either...
The only certainties of black holes persisting in any dimension are those that lie in the mind. (Ha ha.)

Regadless, I can understand the rationale of the doomsayers. Think of nuclear energy. The promise was we could utilize nuclear power to replace oil to power turbines for electricity. Reality was, however, there was waste to deal with and where to put it. . .(I also heard about this place called...what was it...oh, yeah, Chernobyl.)

Not the same scenario here, but the idea is the same: Merely the anticipation of progress for all through science doesn't mean we should not be careful and think things through.
Can anyone PROVE that tomorrow, the carbon dioxide you exhale will not provide the final impetus, at just the right moment and in just the right spot, that tips the Earth over the brink into a runaway greenhouse effect and extinguishes all life on the planet forever?

This is about as plausible as the doomsday scenarios being proposed here.

Everybody stop breathing!
All I have to say is that there are some damn ignorant people out there, ready to believe that a super collider will be able to spontaneously create enough mass and energy to destroy the earth.

e=mc^2 folks, remember that...  If they got 100% energy to mass conversion I think they MIGHT be able to produce one small turd, possibly large enough to exchange for the one in your tiny, vacuous, fearful craniums.
Hey. Why don't we stop drug testing too? It's tied to evolution and that is a danger to our society's morals. Let's stop learning and trying new things. I'm pretty confident that the scientists running the "Experiment" are not the experts with which we should be consulting. We need to get the court involved and allow people who are less educated on the matter to toss their ring into the hat.
Somebody explain something simple: What jurisdiction does the US District Court in Hawaii have over CERN?
THE CONCERN IS WE AS THE PEOPLE HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS TO US. IF THERE IS ANY POTENTIAL OF BEING BLOWN UP IT'S NOT UP TO THEM TO DECIDE TIO FIRE IT UP. I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE SAFE. SO I BELIEVE I HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE NO ON THIS ONE.
Y'know this sounds like the same sort of stupid idiotic crap you'd hear back in the early ages of the Steam Engine.

Do you know that there were "doom sayers" that attempted to limit speed of locomotives to 40 miles per hour because they believed that if the human body accelerated beyond 50 miles per hour that body would die?

Mini-black holes...  Taking into account "Hawking Radiation" (go look it up), the probability of a "micro" black hole lasting longer than a few nano-seconds is beyond remote, also note as mentioned by someone previously, this planet has been getting blasted by high energy gama rays for --> BILLIONS <-- of years.
The doomsday prediction of early particle accelerators was that they would create anti-matter that would destroy the earth. I don't know about you, but I haven't been annihilated and converted into pure energy. The micro black holes that might be generated would be so short lived and of so little mass that they could not create a stable black hole that will swallow up the earth. Can you imagine the amount of energy rquired to convert the earth into a mass of exotic matter? This is a silly lawsuit that will certainly be dismissed. Even after the collider has beeen up and running for years, these two nay sayers will be predicting the end of the world in a vain attempt to gain yet another 15 minutes of fame. I think, perhaps, that Wagner and Sancho have been watching too many episodes of "The Outer Limits" re-runs.
I can't imagine why these people would want it to stop.  Maybe these people have fear of the unknown and therefore fear this kind of experimentation.  Besides, if there was really a black hole that swollows the planet, then I don't think we would really be alert enough to feel the pain.
all of you watch too much sci-fi. get off the internet and get a job! do something with yourself!
safe or not---fail or not---- someone has made a ton of money building it, and tons more by running it.
Men of science once scoffed at those who believed the earth was round, too. As is the nature of science (as our puny, human brains comprehend it,) we shall see...
Don't go outside! Don't touch your computer! Don't eat anything that has been genetically modified! Don't watch TV! Don't go to school! Don't go swimming! Don't eat organic (or conventional) produce! Stay away from fish, bacon, eggs, raw and pateurized milk! Do not use prescription medications! Never talk to strangers! Chewing gum is dangerous! All of these things pose threats to your health and/or life! The risks associated with these activities and others are much greater than any risk posed by the LHC. Let's be realistic: as humans, we overweight very small probabilities of adverse outcomes, especially when they involve something that we individually do not understand. When respectable physicists say these possibilities are almost impossible (but not completely impossible), I honestly think we should give them the benefit of the doubt. You do things everyday that are more likely to get you killed than anything these physicists are planning to do in the LHC. This is a very controlled experiment, and should be allowed to proceed. There are no ethical issues of any appreciable magnitude. The probabilities of any of these outlandish outcomes are so small as to be unmeasurable and are completely negligible! About as negligible as the probability that the Boogey Man will come out of your closest tonight and feed on your fear! These fools may get their restraining order and slow things down at the LHC just because of the fearful nature of the human race, but ultimately the experiment will go forward exactly as planned. There will be no resultant earth gobbling black holes, no strangelets, and no magnetic monopoles! The weatherman says there is no chance of rain, so you plan a picnic! Know that the weatherman is less forthcoming than the physicists, who actually tell us that there is some negligible probability of an adverse outcome that could ruin our human parade. Let's go on with our lives and let physicists do the things that physicists do! I'll be an economist! You be a dentist! He'll be a doctor! She'll be a lawyer! They'll be preachers! The biologists will do their thing! The meteorologist will make the weather forecast, and the garbage collector will empty our trash cans regularly! Perrsonally, I am interested to see whatever the results of the LHC experiments might be.

Jeff, that's a good point about the credentials. Here are some snippets from the affidavits:

On Walter Wagner: "I am a nuclear physicist with extensive training in the field...." He has a B.S. in biological sciences with physics minor (1972), graduate degree in law (1978). "Worked extensively in cosmic radiation research" at UC Berkeley (1973). "Began employment as a federal nuclear safety officer" at the VA in 1979, is currently retired from federal employment. Taught high-school science and math after that retirement but is now retired from teaching as well.

As I mentioned in the article, Wagner has been involved with legal action against RHIC that went nowhere. Some years ago, I wrote about Wagner's campaign against uranium-glazed ceramics, and you might find that story interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077213/

Wagner also sent me an e-mail relating to the recent polonium-poisoning controversy:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/
archive/2006/12/27/23008.aspx


I don't really know Sancho ... Wagner says Sancho is a Spanish citizen who is a permanent resident of the U.S. and lives in Hawaii. Here's some further info from his affidavit:

"I am a System Scientist specialized in Cosmology and Time Theory.  I obtained my undergraduate degree at Barcelona University, Barcelona, Spain. I followed with my post-graduate studies at Columbia University, New York and developed a career as a Writer on scientific themes in Spain."

Based on the affidavit, I would characterize Sancho as a science writer. He does have a Web site called http://www.unificationtheory.com/ ... the material there looks like gobbledygook to me. To be fair, a highly technical paper from, say, Stephen Hawking might have a bit of what looks like gobbledygook to me as well.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0803/0803.1663v1.pdf

However, I'm pretty sure Hawking would consider Sancho's work to be gobbledygook as well.

Sancho doesn't appear to have a high opinion of Hawking, either. In this forum, a poster who gave the name "Luis Sancho" calls Hawking a "ga-ga guy" and part of the "biggest terrorist team of human history":

http://www.physforum.com/index.php?
act=Print&client=printer&f=9&t=2870


I hope this background helps to shed more light on the credentials question....

Steve, as to why the suit was filed in Hawaii ... that's where the plaintiffs live, but I'm betting the case will be moved to, say, Washington. That is, if it gets that far.

Now, as to how it could be that the federal court could possibly have jurisdiction over CERN: Frankly, I don't see it. But I guess the plaintiffs must have felt there's no harm in trying. The plaintiffs argue that the U.S. entities that are participating in the LHC project should go through an environmental impact process that addresses the blowing-up-the-world issue. But as Fermilab's Judy Jackson noted, the U.S. entities have been following the environmental rules for their own activities. The environmental impact at CERN has been handled through European regulations, as noted on the Web page I linked to:

http://askanexpert.web.cern.ch/AskAnExpert/en/Accelerators/LHCenvironment-en.html

"CERN’s guidelines for the protection of the environment and personnel comply with the Swiss and the French National Legislations and with the European Council Directive 96/29/EURATOM."

...... Best, Alan

So the LHC produces a black hole that destroys the earth.  So what!  Is that really a bad thing considering what we humans have done to the planet so far.
At least we'll never know if does happen.  Or, maybe it already did happen, and this is what happens at the singularity.
It's clear that we need to bring in experts, good experts with high-level credentials in theoretical physics.  Experts who can navigate the hazards the LHC may provide, skilled at managing as-of-yet unknown scenarios of varying degrees of danger.

We need Dr. Gordon Freeman in charge of this project.
Perhaps the Big bang was caused by a civilization earily similar to ours, in the area of 13 billion years ago that built it's own LHC. And the big bang that created their universe was made by a civilization in a nother universe 13 some odd billion years prior to that, who also built an LHC, and their big bang...
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"Next thing you know marine life will start singing "thanks for the fish""- John Hoe, El Paso, TX

"Too late.  Even before it has finished, the Large Hadron Collider has created the strange moron, which threatens to turn every other thing on this planet into strange morons in a runaway chain reaction."-
S Pearson, the Dakotas

In Richard Rhodes "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", he talks about just before the Trinity test some of the physicists (with their odd sense of humor)had a mock bet on whether or not the explosion would burn off the earth's atmosphere.  Of course they only discussed the bet with some of the non-technical staff around...Now the physicists don't even get to have that fun!
The sky is falling!
Doomsday, nuclear, witches...if you don't know it quit fearing it, and if you can't go hide under a bed and quit complaining...if doomsday comes at least all the whining will stop as well.  Fire it up.


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