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Chasing phantoms on film

Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:52 PM by Alan Boyle


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Click for video: Watch a spooky
scene from the movie "Shutter."

For more than a century, photographers have been capturing spooky stuff on film: semi-transparent figures standing in the cemetery, for example, or glowing clouds of "ectoplasm" above a seance table, or orbs floating in a forest, or arcs of light encircling someone's head.

Ghostly pictures play a key role in the plot for the horror flick "Shutter" - and the movie's producers are asking people to upload their own spirit photographs. Is there anything substantial behind the spookiness?

Even the people who take spirit photography seriously admit that most cases can be explained away as hoaxes or optical glitches. "I'd say 95 percent of it is just crap," said Barry Taff, a psychophysiologist who played a part in one of the most celebrated cases of the past 50 years.

Back in 1974, Taff and other researchers were called in to investigate the case of a single mother in Culver City, Calif., who said she was being tortured by a demonic supernatural being. The investigation team saw flashes of light and snapped pictures. "At one point we had over 25 people in this woman's bedroom," including several photographers, Taff said.

One photograph taken during the case appears to show an arc of light, with the woman cowering underneath. "Whatever this image was, it was in space," Taff said. "Well then, what was it? ... Is it coming from her, or is it her with something coming from us?"

The case stirred quite a controversy, and spawned the 1982 horror film "The Entity" - which starred Barbara Hershey and credited Taff as a technical adviser.

"The Entity" is Taff's biggest claim to fame, but he's seen plenty of spirit photography before and since. "It's one of the elements we've been investigating over the last 40 years," he said.

Taff figures he's taken on about 4,000 cases over those four decades, "and the majority don't go beyond one interview." In most cases, he has seen a correlation between reports of spooky visions and not-so-spooky explanations: a history of epilepsy or seizures, for example, or a tendency toward psychological instability.

"If we don't experience something and/or measure it in terms of video or still film, or if we don't measure it with our instruments, it's just not worth our time," he said.

But he's not willing to write off spirit photography entirely. In addition to the "Entity" case, he's seen some linkages between high magnetic readings and optical anomalies - the sort of thing studied by Canadian-American psychologist Michael Persinger. Taff thinks electromagnetic phenomena, coupled with our own bodies, may explain some of the reports about poltergeists, and perhaps even the "Entity" case.

"No dead people, no ghosts," he said. "This appears to be coming from us - living people."

That's why he's still investigating cases, when he's not involved with his "day job" as co-owner of a medical-device company. He declined to identify the company because of the stigma associated with the spooky business, but said "I think we're getting closer" to the day when such research might seem respectable.

"We're at a point now, after 40 years, that I believe we might be able to electromagnetically drive the phenomenon, whatever it is," he said. "If we can trigger it, rather than sitting around like a bunch of clowns, then we can document it."


Courtesy of Twentieth Century Fox
This photo, submitted to the "Shutter" Web site, shows a misty pattern seemingly
superimposed over the scene. "The articulated detail of this image is quite
fascinating and really makes one wonder as to what other type of paranormal
events are associated with the location or the man in the shot," Barry Taff says.

Reality check from the other side
Researchers from "the other side" - that is, the scientific skeptics - don't think that day will come anytime soon.

Investigator Joe Nickell, who works for the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, has been looking into purported cases of spookiness almost as long as Taff has. Nickell literally wrote the book on photographic investigation - and so far, he's not impressed.

"To date, since the invention of photography, not a single ghost or spirit photograph has been authenticated by science. Not one," he told me. "And yes, I'm sure."

Nickell makes a distinction between spirit photography, which were the supernatural studio portraits that became so popular during the heyday of 19th-century spiritualism; and ghost photography, which refers to the weird stuff seemingly caught by accident in somebody's snapshot.

Using that definition, Nickell said that all spirit photographs are obvious fakes - while ghost photographs are still fakes, but not so obvious.

"They're always directly linked to photographic trends and techniques of the period," Nickell said. "Once the public is able to get cameras, and you get rolled film, you start getting anomalies. ... Usually it's a double exposure of some kind, or maybe a mysterious blurry spot."

The rise of digital cameras has led to new types of phenomena. "Today, a lot of so-called ghost photographs don't look anything like people," Nickell said.

Some flash photos reveal glowing orbs of light that weren't noticed when the picture was taken. "They're caused usually by particles of dust in the air bouncing the flash back," Nickell said. The light comes back into the camera as an out-of-focus spot, appearing as a bright circle on the picture.

Other photos may show mysterious blurs or complex, smoky-looking shapes.

"Almost anything that can get in front of the camera, and particularly can be emphasized with the flash on, will produce ghostly effects," Nickell explained. "Someone smoking, or even one's breath on a crisp, cold night, can produce misty effects. Some bright object in the background reflecting the flash can make an area look washed out or misty."

Nickell has seen effects created by wandering fingertips, strands of hair, jewelry or tree twigs that get in front of the lens. He said the camera strap is a notorious spook-generator: "That can create what's called an 'energy vortex,' or strands of 'ectoplasm.'"

Ghost-hunters with gizmos
What about the idea that high magnetic fields can generate anomalies?

"There's not good evidence for that," Nickell said. "I've investigated haunted houses for more than 30 years, and the idea that there were high concentrations of electromagnetic radiation in the places where people were experiencing those things is unlikely in the extreme. ... I believe that's a pseudo-explanation. A far more powerful influence is the power of suggestion."

Nickell doesn't necessarily dispute claims that the electromagnetic field meters are picking up high readings.

"The problem is, the instrument may be measuring something indeed, just exactly the kind of thing that the instruments are made to detect, such as faulty wiring or microwave radiation from nearby broadcast towers," he said. "What it is not measuring is ghostly energy."

He said it's a "fool's errand" to look for ghosts by waving around scientific instruments.

"Much of what is offered as evidence for ghosts, or other forms of paranormal activity, is something where the person who is reporting it does not know what it is, but is drawing a conclusion about it," he said. "It's a logical fallacy called 'arguing from ignorance.' Because we don't know what's causing the sound of footsteps on the stairs late at night, it must be a ghost. Well, no, if you don't know what it is, then you don't know.

"You can't say, 'I don't know, therefore I do know.' ... That's at the root of so much of this."

Nickell applies that rule not only to ghost photography ("I don't know what caused this blur on the photos, so because I was at a haunted place, it must be a ghost"), but also to UFO sightings as well as claims of miraculous cures ("My cancer is in remission, therefore it's a miracle").

Psychologist Ray Hyman, another skeptical inquirer (and sometime magician), emphasized that most of the fake ghost pictures are not intentional hoaxes, but rather cases of misinterpretation known as pareidolia. Just as some people can see the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich, or a man in the moon (and on Mars?), they can also jump to conclusions about a spooky spot in a snapshot.

"Once you've convinced yourself that you see something, you can't undo that," Hyman told me.

For more on how perceptions can add to a scene's spookiness, check out this Halloween edition of Cosmic Log as well as this 2002 interview with Hyman.

Now it's your turn: Have you seen some spooky photography worth a second look - or pictures so scary you don't want to take a second look? Have you had a paranormal experience that turned out to have a normal explanation - or no natural explanation whatsoever? Feel free to add your recollections or observations as a comment below.

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My husband died suddenly in a car accident.  That whole next week I spent a lot of time on the phone talking with friends and family.  Whenever I was on the phone, I would be in my bedroom looking out the window and staring at my husband's truck that was parked out in the parking lot of our apartment.  I knew exactly where his truck was parked since it had not moved the entire week.  It was parked partially under an overhang of another carport.  The Sunday after the acccident, my cousin came and got me and my stepson and took us out on an all day roadtrip to get out of the house.  We had just moved recently to the state and didn't know a soul.  All friends and family were coming from out of state.  
Anyway, my husband was a huge Eagles football fan, and on the ride home we were listening to the game on the radio were the Eagles just crushed the other team.  While listening to the game, I just had the feeling that my husband was there hanging around.  So, when we got home, my cousin dropped us off in te parking lot, and I noticed that the truck looked different.  I went to upstairs to my room and looked out the window.  The truck had been moved over two spots.  I then went and asked my son to go look outside and see if there was something different about his truck.  He even claimed it had been moved also, and he knew also what spot it had been in the whole time.  There was no explanation for this at all.  The apartment complex did not have it moved because it was in an legal spot to park; I even asked just to make sure.  I was the only one who had the keys to the truck, and they were in the same spot I had them the whole time.  
The only thing that I can figure is that he was coming down to let us know that he was still watching over us, and that of course he was still watching his football.  There have been many little things that have happened in the last 6 months, but this was the one that had the biggest impact.
CDC. How do you explain the fact that the lenses I use have a 5 sided aperture? Some of the colour variation could be from other, reflected sources of light, just out of frame, but not all. Look before you leap. If you will look, as you say, critically, some of the orbs could be explained, as you say, but others are perfectally round. How do you explain them? Most of the orbs I shoot are white.

I have a series of photos, of the Blood Red Moon, taken last month, during the eclipse. Never mind.

Please tell me, what is you field of experitse? What experience or education makes you an expert?

Not Alone In AL,
there are many other sensatives out there. I've been lucky enough to have one in DC as a friend for years as well as my mother...it makes it a bit easier. Also I've tol my close friends. they've never judged me and that has made life a bit easier. I hope you see this, so you know you're not the only one who's had these supernatural expirances that they can't control. for example i was doing a meditation for a college class and a voice came to me clearly, speaking, asking questions about me and i answered and asked who it was.they said  they weren't anyone that i knew but that i was "a beacon" that they had to come and see. i remember this clearly and even discussed it with the professor who's interested in that kind of stuff. i still have no idea who it was speaking to me but it's one of the most intersting and pleasent expiriances i've had so far.
"There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your phylosophy." A famous quote thousands of years old. Yet still true today.
Every people of every language and culture, have "ghost" stories. Whereas we all make up our own minds as to what we believe. You cannot dismiss that there is something going on, and has went on since people wrote down their thoughts.
Many years ago I read od subliminal advertising. The author of the subject showed whiskey advertisments either being poured into glasses or glasses of whiskey and ice. His theory was that alcoholics were self destructive. So in the blurred pictures of the whiskey, one could see faces of tormented beings. Just like the ink blot pictures shown in psycology scessions, one will see what one's imagination will.
I really enjoyed reading over the comments of contributors. I think nearly every one has a ghost story. I cannot dismiss that the ability to capture an unknown energy on film or digitaly isn't a possibility. There is just too many unknowns out there in science. People who just say they don't believe in the paranormal aren't being totaly honest with themselves. They also are to be felt sorry for. They lack imagination and curiosity. Enjoy life and may I say Happy Easter to everyone...
I have not seem ghosts but, the fact that you are not able to explain something, does not mean that you do not know it. We have senses that can detect beyond the material state. Whether we want to use these senses or not it is the real question. What is the matter that ghosts, or call whatever you like the after-death remains, exist? Same for UFOs, ETs, etc...
I cracked up laughing when I read this ridiculous article about how "particles" could be "entangled" so that a change made to one would instantaneous cause the same change in the other, regardless of how far distant they were. Isn't that funny?  How utterly un scientific.  Or, the one about an infinite number of parallel realities splitting off every instant - which would mean that any possible condition does actually exist.  How crazy and stupid.  Uh, wait.. that was in Scientific American.  Counter-intuitive experiences outside the scientfic community are trashed by "skeptics" yet the most weird and bizzarre notions, embraced by the "science" community are held without question.
I have never seen a ghost, but I have several friends who have lived in "haunted" houses. One friend married a widow. He was in bed, reading, when he looked up and saw a man standing next to the bed, glaring at him. "He" turned and walked into the wall. My friend felt the wall and it was ice cold. He never believed in ghosts before. His wife showed him some photos and he picked out her late husband.

Some people seem more sensitive to ghosts. One friend has seen several, including one of a Chinese miner in the local mountains above LA. He witnessed things flying from shelves in a megastore where he worked. Other employees, along with some customers, have witnessed similar things.

As to the skeptics and deniers, there is an old saying. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
Joe Nickell is an absolute moron !!! He is a classic debunker.
"To date, since the invention of photography, not a single ghost or spirit photograph has been authenticated by science. Not one," he told me.

He said it's a "fool's errand" to look for ghosts by waving around scientific instruments.
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Take note here, In one paragraph Joe nickell says prove it with science, then in another, he rants about trying to prove it with scientific devices....What I read, is opinions of a guy who is so bent on his views, he has a website and writes books....just reading his words you can see his attitude, it's too adamant for me to even respect anything he has to say. The guy lacks sincerity.

As for the guys on taps....put yourself ih their shoes. Thye said 90% of what they investigate is debunked. Investigations go into HOURS....air times what 30 minutes??

Lastly, I know of places haunted....my sisters place, ghost of a kid. She's seen it, her daughter has, son, even her SKEPTIC hub......(he will deny it she said, but it freaked him out)

Skeptics....when they go out on a limb and create websites and write books.....whatever
As someone who has both subscribed to the Skeptical Enquirer and experienced something "paranormal", I have to say I'm torn between the two.  

Well, not really.  I suppose I'm OK with the fact that my life is goverened by testable physics.  Laws of physics that seem to apply to everyone and everything.  I can't deny that.  On the other hand, it is a fact that we don't know everything and that there is something "other" out there.  I can't deny that.  I've seen it.  I have no idea what it was, but I know what it wasn't.  It wasn't anything that Joe Nickell has an answer for.  I suppose that fact scares him, or bruises his ego which is probably the real basis for his hard-headed, close-minded skepticism.

Seeing is believing, if not neccesarily knowing.

I believe in the supernatural.  That is, I believe everything has a natural explanation.  Super-natural occurences have natural causes which are explainable, but have yet to be explained.  I don't believe contemporary science has discovered each and every natural law.  I don't believe humans MUST be the only advanced intelligence in the universe or even, our world.

I don't believe in a benevolent being that bends the laws of known phyisics just for me . . . but I can't say he/she/it doesn't exist.  If he/she/it does exist, I don't believe he/she/it will become a malevolent punisher if I fail to believe in he/she/it, as YOU define he/she/it.
Please clean off your lenses. And take a few moments to think.  If someone or thing was going to make its presence know to a mere mortal (camera or not), do you think it would at least bring a few friends?
Well, after reading through these postings and reflecting on my own experiences I dont have any definitive answers of my own.  I am always struck by the fact that no ghost ever comes up to you and says "okay, lets go have that press conference now". And yet many reputable people have seen, or claim to have seen, something inexplicable that may require a new perspective into existence and the universe.

To me a key question about these sightings and phenomena is - why is there an assumption that this is connected to an afterlife?  Where do people get that idea?  Also, why dont ghosts ever ask you who won the election?  Or who won the world series?  On Ghosthunters, it always appears that the ghosts are just hanging around so that they can answer ghosthunter questions - knock once for yes, twice for no.

Its not that I dont believe in ghosts - I just dont have a clue what they really are, and I dont think anyone else really does either.  Im not buying spirits of dead people, because I dont know what a spirit is either.

Anyway I have to run.  The Rabbit just brought us some chocolate eggs and its time to celebrate the rising of the dead on this easter sunday.
I spent a year working with a man on Spirit Photography writing a book called "A Gift from Spirit." Ron Bowers does not take photos of only orbs and ectoplasms, but also full bodied apparitions. Many people have been witness to the photos that Ron has taken at locations he's never been to previously. He is also not computer savvy, even having difficulty sending emails and he does not own Photoshop. People will look at his photos and immediately disbelieve and that's fine. The people who have been with him while taking these photos know that he is, for some reason, able to take photos that are actually quite detailed. You can see 10 of these photos at our website at www.nightwatchmanchronicles.com - go under paranormal, photos, then Ron Bowers. The book has over 72 photos that Ron has taken along with location history and how the photos came to be taken.
To Not Alone in AL - Good for you, for being willing to speak out and to deal with and face the suffering and frustrations of these interactions, whatever their source.

It's hard to say what could cause it, you may be a sensitive antenna or other mental/emotional situations like "Dave in OK" says, or a combination of both.

No matter what, I have an idea that might help you reduce the suffering, and I urge you to consider it.

Please explore how emergency workers keep their minds clear and their stress lower when they deal with painful suffering and sleep loss- you may be able to work with someone to assist and train your mental and attitude approach to those voices like they do, and it could make your world much better.  

I would say get in touch with someone who can help coach you, who has a background in stress management and emotional/mental functioning  for emergency workers, because it sounds so similar, and your stress and sleep deprivation alone, will amplify whatever else is going on with voices.  

I say that because voices and fears like you describe, occurs with emergency responders after long hours of traumatic service, and they get help like I recommend to you, so they can better manage symptoms of fatigue and stress in the horrific conditions they face in order to help people in emergencies.

I think you could benfit from people who help those fire, police and ambulance professionals.  Ask your fire department or a hospital ambulance team for a referral to one of those emotional and mental health coaches, so you can minimize the effects of the problem caused by stress and sleep losss, and perhaps minimize the consequences with some strategies that the emergency workers use.  They also may be able to assist with any other stress or frustration you are going through - it must be horrible to live with this situation and I hope you get help.  
I have always been skeptical of the paranormal however I have captured an image of what appears to be an angel on the water, it was captured in a cenote in Cancun Mexico on a snorkeling trip. I was using a 35mm disposable underwater camera and have a negative for authentication purposes. This image is amazing, the human like figure in this photograph has dark brown skintone and is cloaked in white. It is truly remarkable as it is hovering over the water. You can see it at angelonthewater dot com
Nickell,Shermer and Randi want to appear "intelligent". They know more than millions of other people. They are worse than those who believe everything!. They have made their feeble minds up NOT TO beleive ANYTHING no matter what. Do they even beleive in GOD?
This reads a lot like UFO stories. Deb, sorry but you were wrong about the truck, it was always in the same spot. Your mind has played a trick on you. We all want loved ones to not just be gone forever, but that is the way it is. Live with it.
I photograph tombstones to place on line under a national web site, on occasion I alter the sunlight striking a stone to get a better image, I photographed a stone three times and there was always an orb near the top left of the stone, talking mostly to myself i wondered if there was anything to the orb stories i ran across from time to time, I wondered if they were always the silver blue in color so I decided to explore this thought by asking out loud at the grave marker if the orb could be placed on the right of the stone, and with digital camera the orb did move my next thought was to change the color, so I once again asked out loud for the color to be changed to yellow, and sure enough it was yellow no bright but no doubt it was yellow...the photos in question were taken just after dark with no unusual wind or climat conditions...i and now thinking that if one is yes and two is no could a communications be set up with the young woman who died well over a hundered years ago???
First if all, let me say that I hardly ever read the "comment" sections much less respond to them but this one has certainly caught my attention for a number of reasons.  Mainly because of the quantity of responses, but also because of the content.  Our world is very complex yet intricately designed.   There is much that we still have yet to understand about the frailty of life and death.  Although we have extensively researched these issues,one thing is definably clear, we do exist in a world that is both physical and spiritual.  Believing or not believing in the things mentioned in these comments isn't the problematic question. The question is, do we realize that we are caught in a battle for the human soul.  The activity that some have encountered(often repeatedly)can not be denied.  The interpretation, however can be misleading.  We are told in the Bible that forces of darkness have the ability to appear as good or as evil.(2 Corinthians 11:14)  We are also made aware in Ephesians chapter 6 that we need to guard ourselves every day with the spiritual attributes of God's protection that are made available to everyone who calls upon the name of Jesus Christ.  It also states..."For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." Ephesians 6:12
Yes, there is a very active spiritual world and we need to be aware that it is necessary to take action.   The ONLY way this can be achieved is not through high tech equipment or photography, but through the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  To those of you who wrestle with these forces apart from Christ, maybe this message is for you. Hopefully, the editors will extend grace in this comment being published.  If not for any other reason, just for balance in perspective.  
As someone Who can Talk to and see the No longer Living Its Very important to be skeptical  as am I. Its Very impotant to Have someone confirm the message, And Im sorry Sylvia seeing coins, butterflies, isnt a sign the phone ringing isnt a sign,"IM DOING FINE AND I LOVE YOU " is not a confirmable message, FOr example the best confirmed message was from a 27 yo lady who I never met before, her message was from her mother who I didnt know who passed, She thanked her daughter she loved the yellow dress with the red flowers and and she loved the job she done on her nails and makeup, but she said try to help frankie because he going to be next.... I dint know what any of these meant, she began crying and she told me that when she passed her sisters wanted to put her in a dress that she hardly wore but she argued that she wanted her mother burried in her favorite easter dress and she won the argument and when she went to view her mom at the funeral home they didnt do her make up in a way that she would never wear it, so she asked the owner if she can stay and redo her makeup and scince she had permission to do that and she was alone with her mom she also done her nails, so it all made sense TO ME..... SO i said whos frankie since she had no brothers she replied " Hes my cousin whos an I.V. drug user and been on the streets, she said she was gonna look for him and have him stay with her at her apt. know thats a "MESSAGE CONFIRMED"
Please believe this! there are no ghosts or loved ones returning from the grave. I have been a graveyard caretaker for years and have witnessed or seen nothing. I will tell you this what you see are nothing more than DEMONS playing games as they always have since the beginning of Eve. Having a laugh seeing how far they can push us Demons are bored easily that's why they become violent when fear isn't recognized they only want to toy with our minds.Stay away from these kinds of spirits they're around to amuse themselves i warn you beware they can follow you home and create hell for you and your loved ones. There is a way to get the spirits out of your home but i will keep that to myself. You will not want to know. Just remember you play with evil you burn with fire. Go with peace.  
Hardcore Skeptics of all sorts are so closed minded that they will come up with the most ridiculous crap to explain away things that really do have no current explanation.  unfortunately it works the same both ways, if your absolutely convinced you've seen a ghost, no one is going to convince you otherwise.  On the other hand, if you are absolutely convinced ghosts do not exist and are either hoaxes or illusions, your not gonna change your mind even if one tap dances on your head and screams in your ear.  As with so many other things the reality is very likely somewhere in between, the hubris of the skeptical community in thinking humanity knows everything there is to know about everything is patently absurd (and yes that IS the attitude most of you take)...of course believing everything everyone tells you is obviously silly.  Take the middle road, keep an open mind, and realize that while we have learned alot about our universe and our place in it, we've barely scratched the surface of whats out there.
MR. NICKELL LOST MY CONFIDENCE WHEN ON A SHOW DEALING WITH THE ROSWELL INCIDENT HE EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS RANCHER MAC BRAZELL WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY ARMY INTELLIGENCE WHO GAVE THE STORY TO THE MEDIA, WHICH  HE SEEMED TO FORGET. BOTH MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER APPEARED TO ME AFTER DEATH AND PRIOR TO MY RECEIVING NOTICE AND I WAS AT WORK ,NEITHER SLEEPING OR DREAMING ON BOTH OCCASIONS. BUT I'M SURE HE COULD EXPLAIN THAT AWAY ALSO.                  
A few years back I took a digital photo of my then girlfriend in an empty restruant. After I downloded it to my PC, in the thumbnail there is a boy behind her smiling. When I open the picture, there is no one there. There was no one there in the restruant but us at that time. All my co-workers have seen it and see the same thing.
For Gordon in Charleston, there is a very rational explanation for the colors and focal characteristics of your orbs.  I am not going to go into it here due to its complexity, but if you Google the term "chromeric abberation" you'll get the reason, with pictures and the math to explain the variations of the speed of light propogating through glass dependent on its thickness.  

And yes the new compact cameras are more prone to dust orbs simply because the flash and lens are physicly closer together.  An older SLR camera with hotshoe has the flash several inches from the lens; new digitals have it as close as 1 inch in some cases.  Thus the angle allows light from the flash to reach the dust mote located much closer the lens. Simple geometry.
Shortly after my grandfather passed away (he was murdered), things in my room would move from place to place. I could hear footsteps and what can only be described as "clammering about" in my closet. I could feel the presence of someone else in the room with me, and I was alone. Then one day, I was going through some of his belongings in another closet and it suddenly became intensely cold. I looked toward the door, and there he was, plain as day. His hair was combed, he had on a red plaid shirt with mother of pearl buttons, blue jeans and boots. He smiled at me, and then he was gone. The noises and things moving stopped, and I've never seen him since. I am atheist, but in my humble opinion, ghosts and the energy that makes us live, continues to live. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it simply changes forms.
Deanna, FYI iI clean me lenses with a microfiber rag between each shot, also, I do not smoke, don't take pictures around anyone that does, and hold my breath at lease 10 seconds before and during each shot. If I get a flash down from an over head tree branch, or the like, I'll move the camera just enough to get rid of it, and shoot again. If I still get a "mist", "ectoplasm" or apparation, with all the skeptics excuses ruled out, then what is it?

As a scientist, I am trying to find out.

If you say that you do not believe in ghosts, then I ask if you are a Christian. If so, you do. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy .............. Fill in the blank. spirit or ghost.
Let me start out by saying, I don't believe in ghosts.  The main reason is because I've never seen one.  It's the same reason I don't believe in ETs.    But that's not to say I don't believe in each person having a spirit.  If we are created beings, then we have a spirit and there's a purpose for each us being here.  When we die, our creator (God) wouldn't leave our souls to wonder this earth until we see the "light".  Sorry, the movie "Ghost" is just that, a movie.  If you don't believe that we are created beings, then believing in ghosts would be counter-intuitive.  No soul, no spirit. You can't have it both ways.  Neither belief leaves room for having spirits aimlessly roaming the earth.
I was one of the last people to believe in ghost spirits, or supernatural stuff, One night myself and some other Police officers where sent out to an abandant childrens hospital. There where reports of lights, and kids laughter heard and seen by passers by. Four of us arrived at the Hissom Center, and three of us went inside to check the building. It's a large complex with many buildings and rooms. As we made our way through the building we heard kids laughing, and sounds of kids in a pool area, as we walked we found ourselves walking into a pool area, but the pool was empty, no water, no kids, but we had heard it, so I sat my pocket tape recorder on a bench, and we went on through the buildings, as we finished I went back to the pool area to retrieve my recorder, which is sound activated, and found that the tape had recorded and was on.
I brought it out and the four of us listened, On the tape was some traffic stops, and then several moments of children laughing, splashing, the sounds of feet running on cement in the pool area. We all knew that the pool was empty, that the kids on the tape had not been there when we looked, and we all had a laugh, then One of the officers said look there's a little girl in the window, I looked and we saw her and where her hand was touching the window was the outline of a childs hand with condinsation around it, then the little girl and the hand print just disapeared. We made anouther walk through the building to make sure no child was there. We secured the building, and filed our reports, Which we all where ordered to re-write, and delete the story I just related to you. Did it really happen, yes, does it make you wonder if your working to hard yes, but then why did everyone that was there see it also ?
The "ghost" or "spirit" photos show us things that don't "show up" on "normal" photos: orbs, filmy or shadowy figures, disembodied heads, long-dead people at or near their tombs, etc. Those who debunk (or try to debunk) these photos remind us that nothing's what it appears to be: the orbs could be dust or light particles, the filmy figures or flashes of light could be a reaction between the light hitting the film (or other medium) and the film's chemicals or digital card, and the "child" ghost could be a "leftover" from a previous image on a film camera's lens. Many very old "spirit" photos were first taken with cameras that had been first used to take family portraits, so that what appeared to be a "ghost" of one's dearly departed often turned out to be a leftover image from the camera's "retina" or lens which had that image first burned onto it during a family's group photo session. The photographer may reuse a glass plate, and not realize that an old image is still on it.
That said, many paranormal researchers, using Polaroid cameras or other media, get images on their photos that they can't explain. They will tell of not seeing anything visible that can explain what caused the streaks of light on the photo. An ordinary photo taken in the 20th century will, when developed, show a figure dressed in 19th century clothes, when there was no one in the photo at the time it was taken.
I would only need for them to give me winning lottery numbers, then I'll believe them.
I have never seen a ghost, but on two separate occasions while staying at my Uncle's home (the only times I've stayed overnight) I was disturbed by slamming doors, the sound of drawers opening and closing and three times felt the bed being depressed by my feet.  I know this because it was strong enough to make my ankles bounce together.  A few years later I was with my wife while working in an old home where she and her family had once lived for several years.  We were painting a mural for the current owners>  We were discussing the stories her father used to relate about seeing apparitions and hearing things while he lived there.  We were alone in the house and seconds after telling me that she had never seen or heard anything strange, I mean like five seconds after she finished the sentence, a door slammed upstairs.  We went up and checked, no windows open and all the doors were open to the bedrooms etc.  We both distinctly heard a door slam and latch.  A few months later the new owners we had worked for began asking us if we knew whether the house had a "history" of unexplained activity.  They were finding doors open that had been locked, hearing things and their teenage daughter was freaked out while seeing a door open by itself.  Doors seem to be a common denominator in many cases.  I have no doubt that there are phenomena with enough energy to interact with people.  
I have had experiences with things that I cannot explain, my whole life, since I was even too young to remember. Off and on, things would come and go. There is no ryme or reason to it. I just think some people are more reseptive than others. I don't have a mental condition, I don't hallucinate, or take mind altering drugs, never have. But, I agree with some of the other comments that have said, "Until it happens to YOU, you cannot possibly understand it." Everyone's brain is different, what we percieve, or recieve is different. With that being said, I don't go looking for something that is not there. I don't try to convince myself that I have seen something, when it can be explained by reasonable, everday common sense. Then there are the things that happen, that all but slap you upside the head, and leave no explanation at all. I actually caught two very bright "lights" on a deer trail camera, placed in the woods on my hunting property. The lights are obviously in motion, one in a straight up motion, the other at an angle to the left and up. Both of them Moving! They are both too high off the ground for it to be a person, too low below the canopy of the trees to be a plane, car headlights, ect. The area is so remote, that only myself and my older brother are the only ones who have ever been in there. It is only accessable on foot. I have ruled out every possible explanation that I can come up with, and still end up with nothing. Only I know the situation behind the pictures that I took, and only I know the exact location, and only I know that they are 100% real! I've shown them around and had alot of interest over them, but no one can tell me what they are? Some say Ghost Lights, some say Ball Lightning, others just scratch their heads and say, "Man, I have no idea?" Great pics, though! So, knowing what I know about these photos, nobody will ever convince me that they were hoaxed, photo shopped, cropped, or anything else. Why? Because I am the only one who knew where this camera was, I am the only one who touched it, and I am the one who recovered the photos. They are real, and they are what they are. Even if they ARE ball lightning, it is by far the best pictures of that phenomena that I have ever seen!
What upsets me is that skeptics ask for scientific proof. Then when people try to use scientific means to explain what is going on (Such as EMF detectors). They wave it off as "fools errand" the reason people use these machines is because there seems to be some kind of connection between High EMF(for example), and these phenomena. Not trying to say that it is a haunting or not, just that there is a connection.
Sorry, Thomas, but my mind was not playing tricks on me.  I know what I saw, and other people who had been coming over the whole week even confirmed it.  My son even knew exactly what spot the truck had been in orginally, without any prompting coming from me.  That is fine if you don't believe it.  But, I just can't seem to find the two or three people needed who must of picked up the truck to move it over two spaces.  
My husband is gone, and I am living with it, Thomas.  Thanks for the great advice.  Wow, why didn't I think of that to begin with?  
I've got some strange pictures and no I don't know what they are.  I'd like to have some one who is a pro. take a look at them.  Contact me if you are interested:
wfink@state.wv.us
I see dead people...

Hey, H. Flemming, I believe that "ghost" in Three Men and a Baby has since been confirmed as a cardboard cut out of Ted Dansen as a child. It was on set as a joke, but apparently made it's way into the film. Makes you wonder if it wasn't purposely placed there. I remember when the ghost rumors kicked up, sales of that movie shot through the roof.
I can't believe how many people fall for stuff.  Apparently people haven't learned very much from history. It is a shame to me to see news covering this as if it were a serious thing.
Re "How legit are the... Ghost Hunters?"  If I may interject a lay viewpoint, I note that they have, it seems recently, publicly acknowledged being plumbers by profession, plumbers who solved so many 'ghostly' sounds by fixing pipes that they got a terrific idea that really paid off for them.  Despite their non-scientific background, I think they bring a reasonably scientific method (forget the em detectors, though) and a relatively intelligent attitude to their investigations, yet I would also agree that their one-night stands cannot be said to amount to real investigations.  I would love to see some real money and time wasted on an effort that essentially comports with GH's calm, debunking outlook.  
 
But I told ya all that to ask ya this:  Didja see that one clip where the chair moved across the floor in the lighthouse?  Kiss my brass if that don't spill the milk of conventional reality all over the kitchen floor of stark empiricism, or something.  I mean seriously, magnetic forces tend not to affect wooden objects, right?  So I ask you, my dear old scotch and sodas, how was this feat accomplished? (Ruling out for the sake of argument, and on the basis of personal opinion, the possibility that the film was doctored.) The lighthouse keeper guy that watched the clip with the hunters, though he expected something, simply freaked out, technically speaking, and his reaction lent a real ring of credulity to the whole thing.  I would be very interested in your well-considered hypotheses in this particular regard.  Regards, my fellow skeptics and fellow believers alike, for I am of two minds on this.  (Interestingly, one of them sounds a lot like Bugs Bunny.)  So, Dave OK, same advice?  
I love all the comments.  There are some great stories here.  I could provide some of my own, but it wouldnt detract from the fact that no one in this forum has offered up any kind of coherent idea about what it all means.  I saw the salt shaker move, I saw the ghost of unt Ada by the fireplace, there are knocks on the wall at night.  There may well be ghosts - I wouldnt know.  The spirit photography story, for instance - really cool, puzzling, intriguing - but what does it mean?  This seems to be a sticking point, unless you want to inject the god aspect into the discussion.  Otherwise it's all personal experiences which seem to point to some kind of other...something...

I find it strange that we don't know if there is an afterlife or something beyond, but we all assume there to be one.  That so many people believe in life beyond death is probably the biggest evidence that it exists.

My sister claims she has seen several ghosts, though no-one else in my family has. Her boyfriend handed me a photo of him in a graveyard at night, claiming that the glowing orbs of light scattered across the picture were ghosts, I instantly recognised them as the cameras flash reflecting off rain drops. He didn't like that explaination, apparently it wasn't raining that night, though it looked wet to me. I think that if you want to see a ghost in a poor quality picture you'll see one, as long as you ignore the facts. As for people seeing things with their own eyes, well. The mind is a funny thing, and some things in life can't be explained. Maybe someday though.
I've never seen a ghost, or a UFO, or an alien. Why should I believe in them? Most paranormal things can be exlpained away easily, some people just don't want to hear or see the truth, and rather believe in silly fantasies.
It will be impossible for some to believe that there is something more out there.  There will also be those that always believe despite people saying that they made a story up.  What is really going is somewhere in the middle.  We maybe witnessing people that are in other dimensions that are only slightly connected with our own.  It could be that there is a way from this level of conscience to another and these are after effects of what was done.  

Right now, we don't have the understanding to really investigate what it is; spirit crossing from beyond or a dimentional convergence via the 9 (or was it more) dimentions mentioned by quantum physics.  
I can't say for sure what I believe one way or the other.  Of the several things that have happened to me, a few can be explained away by concventional causes..others cannot.  I wouls liek to believe that there is something "other" going on, brcause it is facinating...and just because something is labeled as supernatural, does not mean it is not natural...what couldn't the things we sometimes percieve be "ghosts" and part of the natuarl way of things.  Why can't the energy of a dearly departed loved one stay with us, isn't it terribly arrogant to assume that we have the sum knowledge of the universe at our fingertips, or that we have the capacity to understand that knowledge?  Could it be explained by quantum physics...maybe, could it be spiritual...maybe.  The picture here is most assuredly smoke, being a smoker who likes her pictures...I have seen that often.  I also live near Bacholor's Grove in Illinois, and since it is part of a closed forrest preserve that doesn't really have any tourist attraction to offer...I don't know what the park rangers would gain in purpotrating hauntings...b/c I'm sure the State cops enjoy kicking kids out of there at all hours of the night.  I have seen soem stuff there.  As for all the spectoral photos being debunked, well, I very sincerely doubt that Nickell has personally seen every spiritual photo ever taken so...  There are some very compelling pictures associated with Ghettysburg, the one that comes to mind is one taken in the early 1900's (before photoshop)...very cool, full-bodied Confederate apparition.  People will believe what they are comfortable with, and none of us have all the answers.  The key is to hold your belief, btu have an opened mind, and never discount the impossible
"It is impossible to begin to learn that which one thinks one already knows" ~Epictetus
I believe in Nessie, I don't believe in ghosts.
I thought this was MSNBC.com. Not some crazed looney bin. Most of you [...] want to believe there is something out there, so you convince yourself you saw something. [...]
After reading the interview with Ray Hyman, I do really understand his point of view. I reccomend everyone to read it. He has a strong analytical sense for examining the unexplained. In many ways, I am the same. I want to find reasonable explanations for so called supernatural occurances. I can also understand how the mind can somehow blur the senses into thinking that you actually see, or feel something that is just not there. But, like I said before every now and again you come across something that just goes beyond reasonable explanation. This blog is proof of that. Everybody here has a story to tell, and they want someone to listen. I don't think anyone is asking for the next person to believe what they say? I don't really think that even matters to the person telling the story, because in their mind it is real. They just want to be heard. Here's a challenge for the skeptics. You tell me how there are documentation of UFO's, and strange creatures, as far back as 4,000 years ago? These people had never seen a plane, hot air balloon, weather balloon, ect. Yet, they documented their experiences, by drawing them on cave walls, scribbling in scrolls, or whatever means they had. There are numerous 16th century paintings of seemingly normal backdrops, then way up in the corner of the painting, barely noticable to the naked eye, a small disc shaped craft is placed. How did they come up with that image? There were no flying objects at that time. Or where there? Food for thought. Could it also be that for fear of ridicule by their peers, or worse yet, fear of exocution by the mobs, claiming witchery, they wanted to communicate and document an event that happened in their lives without making it blatently obvious? Only visible to the most scrutinist observer?
Yes this is true.  These are fallen Angels.  The bibles speaks of them.  God created them as Holy Spirit Beings before they Sinned.  All Christian will judge them on day.

In Jesus Name, The Name Above all Names
"We are spirits in the material world . . ."

- The Police
I was always told while growing up "that if you believed in God, then you should believe that anything is possible".


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