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Mission not-so-impossible

Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:10 PM by Alan Boyle


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Click for video: How impossible
is teleportation? Physicist Michio
Kaku gives his perspective.

Just how impossible are such science-fiction concepts as teleportation and invisibility? They're not that impossible, physicist Michio Kaku says in a new book titled "Physics of the Impossible." In fact, they're considered mere Class I impossibilities - and someday soon they may be off the impossible list altogether.

Now, if you're looking for a Class III impossibility, there are only a few things in Kaku's book that rise to that level. See if you agree with his assessment.

"Many times, physicists say that certain things are impossible – like physicists said that airplanes were impossible at one point," Kaku told me. "That’s because we didn’t understand the laws of physics very well. Well, today we have a pretty good handle on Einstein’s relativity theory and quantum theory. And now we have to expand our horizons as to what is really impossible."

To some extent, it depends on what your definition of the word "impossible" is. For decades, scientists (and science-fiction authors) have talked about Type I, Type II and Type III civilizations - that is, civilizations that can harness the power of an entire planet (Type I), a star (Type II) or a whole galaxy (Type III). On this scale, we rate as a Type 0 civilization.

Kaku picks up on this idea in his classification system for impossibilities:

  • A Class I impossibility is something that doesn't violate the known laws of physics, and could conceivably become possible decades or a century from now. Back in 1800, airplanes might have been on that list, just as "Star Trek"-style cloaking devices are today.
  • Class II is reserved for technologies that sit on the very edge of our understanding of physics, and might be realized thousands or millions of years in the future. Faster-than-light spaceships, wormholes and backward time travel are on Kaku's Class II list.
  • Class III impossibilities are feats that clearly violate the known laws of physics. "If they do turn out to be possible, they would represent a fundamental shift in our understanding of physics," Kaku said. Buillding perpetual motion machines and predicting the future are the two broad topics that get a Class III rating in Kaku's book. (But if you can go back into the past, couldn't you in effect predict or change the future? Well, maybe not.)

Kaku has always been one to give wide latitude to scientific possibilities, in a series of books including "Hyperspace" and "Visions." He told me he wrote this latest book because some of the things that were once thought to be purely science fiction are starting to look as if they're possible, at least in the realm of lab experiments if not practical applications.

"Things that a physicist would snicker at today could become possible in the coming decades," he said. "As we get a better grasp on quantum theory, we think that it may be possible to make objects invisible. It may be possible to teleport them like you see on 'Star Trek.'  So some of the things that we see in science fiction could very well become science fact in the coming years."

Turning the impossible into the possible usually comes with caveats:

The reality behind achieving the impossible may not always be worth the trouble. For example, take psychokinesis, the ability to move things with your mind. Kaku classifies this as a Class I impossibility - because soon scientists could conceivably set up a system that reads your thoughts using a brain-imaging device, processes your mental command using a computer, and then levitates objects magnetically using room-temperature superconductors.

All that sounds a lot clunkier than using Uri Geller's spoon-bending trick - or just walking over and picking up the darn spoon yourself.

Speaking of Uri Geller, Kaku notes in the book that scientists aren't always good at picking up on hoaxes that seem to achieve the impossible. "Scientists are trained to believe what they see in the lab. Magicians claiming psychic powers, however, are trained to deceive others by fooling their visual senses," Kaku writes.

On the other hand, scientists (and, by the way, journalists who write about scientists) aren't always good at picking up on what is truly possible. Kaku's reference to magicians brings science-fiction guru Arthur C. Clarke's three laws of impossibility to mind: 

  • "When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
  • "The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible."
  • "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."  

At age 61, Kaku is hardly elderly. But is he right or wrong about scientific impossibilities? Take this quiz to find out whether you agree or disagree with Kaku's classifications, and feel free to weigh in with your own opinion below.

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Ok, Here's the paradox, We build a machine that can duplicate a man, complete with all memories and love of his family, in every way an exact duplicate, then we kill the first man who had been duplicated. Is this man still alive?

This is a question for those who will someday be involved with teleportation (if it is possible).
Ok wormholes, teleportation and cloaking devices all sound great and I would love to be around to see all of that neat stuff.  However, is there any chance you can replicate, lets say . . ahh . . "oil."
One thought I have is the physical body that is alive vs the memory and knowledge (data) that is imbedded in our memory is immortal vs a physical being that is finite. Mark in Huntington WV.
Another paradox. Build a robot give it true AI. Now, is it alive or is it a machine. Do you give it freedom or do you keep it enslaved? Is it your child or is it an illegal alien??
Teleportation will be side stepped for quite a while and impulse sublight space ship engines could occur if we can generate a sizeable uniform field that spins nuclei near speed of light to use torque forces in all in one specific direction for all the atoms of a space ship. This would also solve artificial gravity in such space vessels. The teleporter substitue would have laser beamed energy to power a personal tranport tube space shuttle. Sending such a personal transport ahead of the spacevessel might push objects out of the space ships way and block significant radiation while the space vessel travels. Just a consistent use of an idea to launch a prestarship solar system and neigboring starship at sub light speed. Most people can't believe the consistent use of an idea can provide so many potential solutions so most people ignore me. I was almost a scientist, but now just a science fiction dreamer.Before you find flaws with these ideas take a look at Arthur c Clarks ideas again on impossibilities. I can see much farther than Arthur. Jeff S of Illinois.
Teleportation will be side stepped for quite a while and impulse sublight space ship engines could occur if we can generate a sizeable uniform field that spins nuclei near speed of light to use torque forces all in one specific direction for all the atoms of a space ship. This would also solve artificial gravity in such space vessels. The teleporter substitue would have laser beamed energy to power a personal tranport tube space shuttle using this same torque motor idea. Sending such a personal transport tube ahead of the spacevessel projecting from it that same kind of torque inducing field might push objects out of the space ships way and block significant radiation while the space vessel travels. Just a consistent use of an idea to launch a prestarship solar system vessel and a neigboring star starship at sub light speed. There has to be holes or snags to the idea, but its a direction to shoot for. Most people can't believe the consistent use of an idea can provide so many potential solutions so most people ignore me. I was almost a scientist, but now just a science fiction dreamer.

Before you find flaws with these ideas take a look at Arthur c Clarke's ideas again on impossibilities. I can see much farther than Arthur or Arthur only shares a few steps at a time so people listen to him more often so he could pay his bills. Jeff S of Illinois.
I like the use of type class impossibilities, it puts up a fence to keep working scientists in and speculation on the fence. That way if someone trips over something we get to acknowledge it much quicker. Spectator sport science of the next hundred years might actually be fun after this. I might get a copy of that book.
(It's a shame we rate so small.)
It's always seemed intuitive to me that ANY form of teleportation that takes you apart and puts you back together at the other end is a death machine.  That the 'new you' at the other end _thinks_ it's you is irrelevant; what is relevant is the initial demolition of 'you.' Wouldn't catch me getting into the ST transporter.

But if you 'jumped' the distance via something like a 'wormhole' without being taken apart in the process...that's not a death machine.

Footnote: I don't know if anyone recalls the ST:TNG ep where it showed the transport process from the viewpoint of the transportee. It seemed utterly seamless - the starting point gradually faded into a grey fog (or something like that) then the 'fog' faded into the new location.  Continuous consciousness during the process? Hmm, could seem to contradict the deconstruct/reconstruct model. But in the end, it's just the first person's view stitched together with that of his reconstruction at the other end.
Or something like that.
This brings a thought to mind.  The food replicators on Star Trek: Voyager were my favorite things in t he world.  I could really go for some replicated nachos right about now.
The "HEAT RAY" is an actual weapon that the ARMY has.
Reality is composed of matter and energy - that's it. Each can be converted into the other, but in order for information to exist, matter is required. It is matter that provides the framework that allows energy to contain and/or transmit information. In a sense (pun intended) the idea that memory is immortal makes some sense, but only if some physical entity exists to maintain its structure. Eventually, the ethical issues surrounding duplication of the information that makes an individual unique will need to be addressed, because it will certaily become possible. This is a fascination area of speculation full of what seem to be unresolvable paradoxes.
It is important that we never limit imagination, but it is imperative that we focus on the immediate issues at hand.  We must take the steps necessary to utilize our limited resources’ more cost effectively this includes air and water and completely eliminate our oil addiction.  Oil that is poisoning our water,  air, food chain, manufacturing process, transportation and social relationships.  This is the only issue of the day that is impossible to solve, which is more critical to solve than all the other impossible to solve problems, because if we fail to completely eliminate the oil addiction we die.    It is perhaps appropriate that a Japanese author has brought us a book about the infinity of imagination and possibilities.  It is striking to note that his nation at one time faced the same issues as we face now, limited resource and unlimited demand.     The solution at the time lead to a terrible War that left Japan bombed into dust.  For all the technological superiority that Japan had it failed miserably in the face of creative imagination, education, scientific research, engineering,  empathy, and World opinion.  We too in the West are now face the same issues the Fascists in Japan faced.   The question is; our we going to make the same mistakes or are we going to stop the oil addiction.  An addiction that is funding enemies of freedom and free thought , traitors to the cause of democratic justice, [...]

    The choices are crystal clear let our infinite imagination and possibilities create a replacement for oil or unfortunately no matter how unwilling we maybe, forced into a battle for scarce resources.   There are no other options as; A. You cannot trade or negotiate with others whose only objective is to see you dead and B. Symbiotic relationships are only possible with mutually agreeable parties, the alternate relationship is more common, parasitic, and is the standard for most human relationships  as our collective human history demonstrates.   So let us focus for the time being on solving the oil addiction so that we may have a future left to solve all the other mysteries of the universe. [..]
One think for all to consider is this......As I have grown through the years and been a fan of science fiction I have observed this fact....yesterdays sci fi is todays reality...so todays sci fi will be tomorrows reality. If we can think it we can concieve it. Will be awesome to watch. It will be what we do with those discoveries that will be key. Use to help or what we normally do with new technologies. Just a thought from the Midwest.
If you replicate an object on an atomic level you still do not have an exact copy of the original.  Unless of course you use the same atoms as the original and they are assembled in the precise order, location, and in an amount of time that would not have a statistical impact on their sub atomic state.

Just an idea.
>However, is there any chance you can replicate, lets say
>. . ahh . . "oil."

Probably you could replicate oil, but it would take more energy than producing it by other means (such as bio-diesel). It's rather like how nuclear reactions make transmutation of elements possible, yet turning lead into gold by firing a proton beam at it costs more energy than just extracting more gold from the Earth.
Time-travel paradoxes are already ruled out in the Many-Worlds version of Quantum Mechanics. If you go back in the past, you create a new universe (like the old one, but it has the "future you" in it). If you kill your grandfather, you cease to be born in that new universe. As far as the original universe you came from is concerned, you were born and than vanished when you went into the time-travel machine.
I like the idea of impossible vs possible. Today we think we understand something and tomorrow could change everything.  Science today seems to take the most distance technologies and tries to fill in the gaps on the way.  This might be a quicker approach to understanding the universe
I was under the impression that in Star Trek the Transporter did not take the body apart..just that it transported the body at the level of atoms. That is was completely seamless. Unlike the transporter device in the movie "TRON" where it took the body apart in pieces. I like what this guy said
jeffrey j scherer ,waukegan, Illinois (Sent Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:08 PM) And I do believe what he talks about is possible.
to chuck
Matter is not required for information to exist(cosmic microwave background radiation was generated at the same time as matter), matter is also not required as a "framework" to contain or transmit energy (X-rays, gamma-rays, etc. all propogate through the vacumn of space). Reality does not consist entirely of matter and energy (space by definition is the absence of both), if all there is is matter and energy what part of the universe is expanding that doesn't violate the mass/energy conservation laws?
If we do manage to create true AI, how soon before it shows up on Bittorrent?
I herebye nominate Sir Arthur C. Clark's book "Profiles of the Future" for the book club.  He said it first!
Then go forthe and search out Freeman Dyson on spheres!
The concept of individuality and continuous of conciousness during a "teleportation" event are almost entirely philosophical arguments.  The question of whether it is physically possible to transport something via teleportation is essentially a physical issue.  Granted, it is a much easier issue to deal with when talking about non-living matter.  If my understanding is correct, and I may be a couple years off here, the current thought process on this entails quantum entanglement (spelling?).  If this is the case, then it is my understanding that the object being teleported isn't truly being teleported, but the information of its atomic structure is and the object is essentially be re-created at another spot.  If this is the case, then the philosphical implications are huge; is the original object no more?  Is the new object the same, or inherently different?  Is this even possible with a living being (assuming the atomic structure and patterns of our brains constitute our memory and sense of self)?  However, as said above, if we rely on some other mode of teleportation, say, for instance, wormholes (see Charles from MA above), then it seems we are circumventing the philosophical issues and relying on spectaluarly new concepts in relativist physics... which we dont fully understand yet.  However, to take the above philosophical question further, and this is the true meat of my post, what makes us us?  If we are recreated with the exact same atomic structure, memories, sense of self, existing injuries and all.... what makes us any different?  The fact that we are made of different atoms somewhere else?  We are already made of atoms and subatomic particles, so would we truly be any different?  Of course, the concept of a soul, especially one intrinsically tied to the body, throws a gigantic wrench into this, I dont see any difference.  Death is ceasing to exist; but if we continue to exist, just at another location, have we died?  If we exist in the same exact way, the atoms that once made our "previous" physical selves (for lack of a better term) have been recycled (as they cannot be destroyed, well atoms can, but you know what I mean, conservation of energy and all...) and we exist based on new atoms, with no energy or matter lost (except that used to transport); what is the difference?  We continue to exist, in our same exact physical bodies, with our same thoughts and memories.... and while our "old self" (again, lack of a better term), we have not.

Also, Heat Ray, above, not a military project (ie, some top secret weapon), it was recently tested on civilians, and is not as dramatic as sci fi would make it seem, it slowly raises body temperature to make opponents uncomfortable, and is potentially a great non-lethal weapon (though, essentially, no weapons are "great").  I do imagine, however, it could be amped up and used as some sci-fi type devise if enough energy were available, but then again, anything could.....
Actually if we as a people could focus on something other than killing each other, we might be able to create some of these techs.  Certainly increasing science budgets would bring more business to the industry and thus new machines or?
Ummm...why is predicting the future a Class III impossibility? It's been known to happen, the so-called 'scientists' of the time just choose to ignore it. Most scientists do that, though; they ignore facts that contradict their theories. I cite as an example of predicting the future the Book of Isaiah. No one who claims to be intelligent can call it a fake or a hoax, and the predicitions in it came true a few thousand years later. It's even better than Notradamus's predictions, because instead of vague phrases and misinterpretations, it is a specific picture of the life and death of Yeshua of Nazereth. Let's face it, it's happened before. Accept it and move on.
I must agree with those who already stated that our addiction to oil is the most important issue to resolve.  We cannot move to a type 1 civilization on oil.  Energy is the key to our survival as a species.  We always hear about saving the planet, but the reality is that the planet will be fine, it is humans who will become extinct if we do not get to the next level of civilization, without the oil that is soon to kill us all. With enough clean energy, we can achieve the impossible and perhaps survive as a species.
Perpetual motion does exist. Orbital mechanics presents many examples of almost perpetual since most objects are either spiraling in or out. A balanced system would stay in perpetual motion. Can we do something like this on a smaller scale here on earth? Well, we'll see...
In a way, I agree that we must focus our considerable intellect on solving the immediate problems of oil addiction and adjusting to climate change.  I also note that teleportation and space travel may change the manner in which we use energy or oil and also make resources of other planets and space debris available for use.  It seems that all exploration is still necessary to solve problems that are always interconnected.
I just want to figure out how to program my VCR!
reaching faster than light speed without the use of teleportation has 1 fantastic drawback.  its called acceleration.  

even in space acceleration creates G forces on the human body.  Accelerating too quickly would cause too much strain on the body to be handled and would cause serious injury or death.  This is a limitation of standard high speed travel.  It would take SOOOOOOOOOOOO long to accelerate, safely, to light speed or faster that by the time you reached your top speed  you would have to begin an equally slow reduction in speed so you wouldnt fly by your destination.  Not to mention, if you were traveling at the speed of light every particle of anything in your way would become a light speed projectile.  So for all you people who think being taken apart and put back together is death, i would look again at the time it would take to make great distances traversable by conventional means.  Not to mention the extreme dangers of the trek.  Yay for wormholes, providing they do not deconstruct you as well.



In response to Charles:

Certainly you don't think that all the atoms in your body now are permanent?  "You" are the continuation of the pattern, not of the "stuff".  The stuff is entirely different today then the stuff you might say you were composed of when you were five.  However the pattern of the matter (which is really information) remains mostly in tact.... of course, this too takes on quite a different shape at different points in space-time.  Furthermore, there's a basic underlying assumption to your statements that we have a single "ego" that would "die" when the new one is created.  I suggest you read Minsky's Society of Mind and/or simply digest some Jungian Pyschology (also see: Alan Watts).  Deutsch's Fabric of Reality also provides some intresting insights about the nature of replicated information.  
Many of the recent sitings of objects that move to blinding speeds instantaneously, precludes the objects being operated by perhaps living beings. Our physical nature tells us that we could not withstand the g-forces involved with instant acceleration without damage to that physical being. If these objects are indeed found to exist in our present world,then they must come from beyond the realm of our existence. Perhaps another world or another dimension with a knowledge of physics far beyond our own. Sentient mechanical beings of any shape could withstand the trip. Beings which have a direct biological double in another world from which they come. Beings with all the experiences and knowledge of their biological double. I hope that someday we will accept the possibilities and dispense with the laughter and finger pointing. We have a long way to learn.
If replication ever becomes a reality, you can kiss any economy goodbye...money, gold, diamonds..you name it.
I just hope they put the first documented case of teleportation on youtube for all to see.
Do any of the ideas deal with finding other sources of energy.  In fiction that deals with magic, there is the strength of will to bend the "magical energy" to the mage's will.  I would like to assume that would be under the Class III group.  I would love to read about that and how it, if possible, would be found.  
It's important to remember that fiction is craft.  Star Trek had teleportation as a plot device, not as a scientific prediction.  Gene Roddenberry decided it would clutter up the action and add cost (by requiring additional special effects) if he was required to show take-offs and landings from every planet.  So the "transporter" was added as a plot device to avoid the need for take-offs and landings.  Once this plot device had been chosen, it was developed to a significant extent.  But it wasn't there because anybody thought it was a technology that would probably be developed within any foreseeable time frame.
Kaku's ideas are interesting, but arbitrary. He simply chose certain classifications for convenience. This is not to say that's a bad thing. It's all we can do in the absence of data to give us reasons for a certain classification system.

Any time someone says something is a "law" of science, they're saying it's a theory for which they can find no possible alternative. But, as Sagan was so fond of saying, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. An alternative may exist outside our present understanding, or ability to understand due to lack of technology to investigate it.

I disagree in the extreme with Kaku's time classes. It was less than 25 years from Einstein's first paper on relativity to the Copenhagen conference which laid out the majority of the "standard model" of quantum mechanics (some of which Einstein himself disagreed with). That model has been tested more accurately than any previous scientific theory and found to hold. This does not preclude another 25 year period -- which could happen at any time -- during which our understanding changes drastically. A new theory would not contradict what we know, but would explain it better, or add new concepts, or both.

According to relativity, teleportation and faster than light travel cannot exist without time travel, since time and space are a unitary phenomenon. A future theory may present the possibility of seperating those, just as we now have a theory which (hypothetically, so far) seperates mass and momentum, something previously unthinkable. The "law" that "prevents" FTL is the concept of simultaneity, part of relativity which states there is no priviledged frame of reference. However, there is one hypothetical space travel technology in which a ship creates its own region of space-time, artificially outside our own universe. Such a frame of reference might hold to relativity inside itself, but apparently violate it according to outside observers. Thus, our present understanding of simultaneity and its violation may prove to be an illusion due to our assumption we cannot get outside our familiar space-time continuum. This possibility is theorized in John Bell's 1964 paper "On the Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox" (ie. the "Bell's Theorem" paper). The theory exists -- the technology doesn't. And I will insert a "Yet." Stephen Hawking once toured the set of Star Trek. When he was shown the engineering section, he was told "This is our warp engine which allows us to travel faster than light. Of course this is impossible." Hawking replied, "I'm working on that." Those four words implied a violation of the laws of physics, but did support Clarke's laws of impossibility.

It's important to note that these "violations" do not come from a new theory entirely outside the presents ones, but rather from within them. They are the predicitions of impossibilities within a theory, shown to not always hold. They break the law, but not the theory, which can simply be improved to include these.

I consider myself fortunate that I'm in neuroscience rather than physics. We have very few "laws". One we had stated that the brain cannot repair itself because it cannot grow new neurons. This was proven wrong about 10 years ago. We're now more wary than ever of "laws", which can guide technology when they work but can then restrict thinking (or more accurately the acceptance of thinking) in new directions. On the other hand, physicists are fortunate in that they get big money for Big Science (ref: Alan's recent articles on CERN). Plus, with their confidence in their "laws" comes a more relaxed attitude that allows for some humor. Physicists get to use cool names for things like quarks, WIMPS and such. Sadly, my collegues are still too unsure of their science (for some good reasons) to allow that.

And with that, I'll propose two corallaries to Clarke's Laws:

1. "A theory that is proven to be at least pretty right will be replaced, probably not by a new theory that proves it wrong, but by one that's simply an improvement that makes it more right."

2. "When even the distinguished, elderly scientists within a field can include humor within their science, you can be sure they're sure they're at least pretty right."


another way for intersteller travel would be to use our sun. It has plenty of energy to send us around space, all that we would have to do is find some way to store the energy from the sun in some sort of machine and have that energy build init till crital mass or to where we want to go. Then you put a ship of some sort in front of the release of that machine and of you go, it's like star jumping you could in therory go from star to star but you could always bring along some more fuel if the star doesnt throw you far enough
We are a tiny portion of the universe.  We have no beginning and no end, there is nothing new and nothing old.  Everything that ever was, is, and what is, will ever be.

Energy and matter turns into some other form, but it is never destroyed or lost.  There is always a balance in the Universe.  The knowledge we used is turned into raw data and returned to co-mingles with all other matter when we in turn change form.
What we can think will become reality because there is this inherent knowledge stored in every particle in existence.  
Mark of WV thinks our memory is immortal. Great thought, but not immortal in the sense of not dying; just always been here, stored somewhere and always available for reference and reuse some day when the time and conditions are right.  

When a boy back in the 50s, I read where the Indian Sanskrit books have man flying in machines tens of thousands of years ago,long before most written history.  Eye pieces to look through to recognize a friend made from quartz during Biblical times two thousand years ago, Archimedes and others using early forms of "computers" (sand or water falling into pails with ropes, pulleys and pegs) to move something seemingly without anyone's interference, thereby amazing worshippers or theater goers out of their hard earn coins.  The Egyptians doing a brain lobotomy on "crazy" people three thousand years ago.  
Nothing new, just may take a bit to put the information together correctly so it is useful at the time we need it.
Dark matter or dark energy passes through us and our Earth every day. Sounds like being able to walk through walls.  Harness this dark energy and go on a trip without touching anything until your destination.  
Nothing new that we don't already know about.  Just find the correct information and put it together in the correct order.
Mr. Kaku's books sound just like the material we call "Our meat and potatoes".
Actually there have been scientists that can do teleportation I believe in Australia just this past year. As far as the cloaking we already are doing a form of it in our airplanes so that is not that far off. Now for the worm holes. Sceintists today are doing micro wormholes. So that list is out of whack. It may have been in 1800 but not today. They need to keep up with development.
I believe the seemingly impossible has already happened. Around the world people have developed perpetual motion motors using permanent magnets. These will do away with all power plants,power lines, internal combustion engines,etc. I think this why the greedy oil people like the BUSHES have run up the price of oil to get as much money as they possibly can before these motors go into full production. The price of oil will then probably fall back down to under $7.00 a barrel. Anyone who does not believe this must go to "youtube.com" and type in MAGNETIC MOTORS. One group in Australia already has it ready to go and now developing a 300 horse power motor. All this leads to zero air pollution in the future for the entire planet. Remember, this is perpetual motion. Especially if used  with air bearings.
what is the effecton quantum decoherence of the now videotaped electron in motion?  and what are the implications?
To Chuck Heaton: YOu said, " the idea that memory is immortal makes some sense, but only if some physical entity exists to maintain its structure."  

We know that lights benda around the universe due to gravitational forces, that something as seemingly not structural has structure.... and therefore, until you understand the soul... which is where your "mind" resides, think of it that way... as if your memory where attached to a point of light. However, the soul is much more my friend....and it along with your mind and memories is immortal.

I have enjoyed reading everyones entrys and am inspired by the fact that there are still intelligent minds untouched by corporate hands.

And to Jeff S of Illinois....You are a Scientist my friend, you may not have the Job and pay, but you are as much a scientific mind as many...and moreso than many that work for corporate and government labs.

Learn to follow your intuition...learn about the "inner voice" and how to speak to yours...then you will know you can "be" anything you desire...still...no matter how old you are.

odnt try to figure out how to do it... Just decide it, and your intuiton will guide you there..the "master mind" supercomputer that handles these things is much better left on "auto", than you trying to guide it yourself...kinda like walking..

Be not concerned with the coming woes, they are out of your hands, and are for a purpose designed by a creator race long ago. The One they sent will return, and there will be great destruction, but in the end.....all good loving honest souls shall triumph.
It is theorhetically impossible for an aircraft to fly faster than the speed of sound.  The compression wall in front of the craft will get stronger as the craft nears the speed of sound.  It will never be able to break through.
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BTW, the world is flat.
As our galaxy hurdles outward through space at somewhere near the speed of light, mass increases and deminsion decreases.

The world really is flat.  It just looks 3D to us.
Robert Burton:  There is no paradox.  You cannot copy an atom, so you certainly cannot copy a man. Copying an atom is a "class III" impossibility.  Teleportation is very consistent within the framework of our science of physics and has of course been demonstrated in the laboratory.
I can see much farther than Arthur or Arthur only shares a few steps at a time so people listen to him more often so he could pay his bills.But if you 'jumped' the distance via something like a 'wormhole' without being taken apart in the process...that's not a death machine. Ok, Here's the paradox, We build a machine that can duplicate a man, complete with all memories and love of his family, in every way an exact duplicate, then we kill the first man who had been duplicated.On the other hand, scientists (and, by the way, journalists who write about scientists) aren't always good at picking up on what is truly possible. Kaku's reference to magicians brings science-fiction guru Arthur C. Clarke's three laws of impossibility to mind:I do have a huge Penis. The teleporter substitue would have laser beamed energy to power a personal tranport tube space shuttle. Sending such a personal transport ahead of the spacevessel might push objects out of the space ships way and block significant radiation while the space vessel travels. Just a consistent use of an idea to launch a prestarship solar system and neigboring starship at sub light speed. But thats just my opinion...
As the White Knight in Alice's Adventures Through The Looking Glass said to her - "I have no trouble believing six impossible things before breakfast every day."  I'm happy that so many here are in that same Army.  

A few comments -

We do not suffer from an addiction to "oil" but to the money which it generates.

 If time travel was a possibility, we would have already been visited from the future, a visitor appearing here as a fait accompli, but then continuing here as if from the past.  

The mass of an object increases as the object approaches the speed of light, requiring more propellant to be carried by the object in order to increase its velocity until the original mass plus propellant approaches infinity.  

Our misunderstanding of science results from our misunderstanding of language.  

Dennis McClain-Furmanski deserves his Ph.D.
ok that question is a ripoff from the outer limits show episode think like a dinosaur where aliens have shared teleportation with us as part of a trial peace theory
Just imagine taking a trip to one of the moons of Saturn. Your mechanical body double; Your body double with every memory you ever had in your lifetime, preprogrammed exactly from your memory and then sent to another world to experience the entire trip for you. And when he returns, his total experience of the trip was downloaded into your biological memory. What a trip! What a scientific tool! A tool which would allow you to "send yourself" anywhere in the universe to experience different worlds; To study and learn without the dangers. None.
A theory that is proven to be at least pretty right will be replaced, probably not by a new theory that proves it wrong, but by one that's simply an improvement that makes it more right. Any time someone says something is a "law" of science, they're saying it's a theory for which they can find no possible alternative. But, as Sagan was so fond of saying, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. An alternative may exist outside our present understanding, or ability to understand due to lack of technology to investigate it. I disagree in the extreme with Kaku's time classes. It was less than 25 years from Einstein's first paper on relativity to the Copenhagen conference which laid out the majority of the "standard model" of quantum mechanics (some of which Einstein himself disagreed with.  Also I failed to mention in my first comment, that my balls are extremely huge also.  Huge like grapefruits. Just a consistent use of an idea to launch a prestarship solar system and neigboring starship at sub light speed. I would like to assume that would be under the Class III group.  I would love to read about that and how it, if possible, would be found. But once again...thats just my opinion.
"Ok, Here's the paradox, We build a machine that can duplicate a man, complete with all memories and love of his family, in every way an exact duplicate, then we kill the first man who had been duplicated. Is this man still alive?

This is a question for those who will someday be involved with teleportation (if it is possible)."

  Which is exactly why the only teleportation device I would consider riding in would be a Quantum Teleporter. By the very nature of the process, you can't be duplicated. A quantum state (which defines all the physical characteristics of an object, even a living thing) can be moved, but never 'cloned,' not even in theory. At the far end (if I understand correctly) that quantum state can is re-expresed in mass of the same state as before.

Now, philosophical issues such as wether your soul (if such exists at all) makes that same jump with the quantum state (I might even offer a purely metaphysical suggestion that your quantum state *is* your soul), I don't know...

  On the other hand, it's also theoretically possible to use a quantum state to create multiple *imperfect* copies, that could then be re-intergrated into the *precise* original...

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=554
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=19054
http://www.citebase.org/cgi-bin/citations?id=oai:arXiv.org:quant-ph/9806082


...so the Star Trek episode wherein a transporter problem split Kirk along personality lines and was re-intergrated into his complete self later, isn't QUITE as far out as it may seem.



http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=554


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