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The bee questions that bug you

Posted: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:00 PM by Alan Boyle

If a virus is killing off bees, is it safe for humans to consume honey, or bee pollen, or royal jelly? Are organic bees less vulnerable? What about all these other suggested causes of the bees’ “disappearing disease”? If you see some strange bee behavior, who you gonna call? We handle these questions and more in the wake of the journal Science’s latest study on Colony Collapse Disorder.

Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD, is characterized by the rapid disappearance of a bee colony even though there seems to be no reason for them to vanish. One week, the hive seems to be buzzing, with plenty of food. The next week, the bees are gone to who knows where. Scientists took note of CCD's rise a year ago and have suggested a range of causes for the phenomenon - including parasites, pesticide poisoning, global warming and the stress of the bees being moved around by commercial pollination operations.

The latest research cites a correlation with another factor, the presence of a little-known virus that was first isolated in Israel. But the mystery has not yet been solved, and researchers say they still have more questions than answers. Msnbc.com users had questions as well, and to answer them, I consulted research entomologist Jay Evans at the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Agricultural Research Service and reviewed my notes from past interviews. Here's a sampling of the frequently asked questions:

I was wondering if there in any research on possible effects to humans. I personally take bee pollen every day for vitamins, minerals, amino acids, energy, etc. Believe it or not, I also take it as a possible antivirus [measure]. My children take daily spoons full of honey to help with allergies. Any thoughts? - William Brewer

"Honey and pollen, and more recently royal jelly, have been ruled out for any human diseases," Evans said. He explained that the suspect virus in particular, known as the Israeli Acute Paralysis Virus, "is not on the radar screen for any disease outside of honeybees."

Evans said honey can contain bacterial spores that cause botulism in human infants. "That very rarely gets into the honey from the plants," he said, and that's why experts advise against feeding honey to infants less than a year old.

As for bee pollen and royal jelly, the virus may not be a concern, but some skeptics say those substances are of dubious health value and may bring on allergy attacks instead of warding them off. Bee propolis - the "glue" that holds the hives together - may have some health properties but also poses an allergy risk, according to the published literature.

If there are no dead bees being found, then how can we say for certain they are dying? Can the Africanized honey bees and their migration into the United States be a contributing factor if not a cause? Do we know if regular honeybees migrate and, if so, do we know anything about the patterns or timing? How long exactly have we been keeping track of bee movements?  If it is less than, say, 200 years, can we really rule out that this is just a pre-existing pattern? - Brad Schader

"They're not finding the dead bees in high numbers, which actually is a good indicator of what's going on," Evans said. If, for instance, pesticides were the primary factor behind the flight of the honeybee, scientists would expect to find bunches of dead bees lying around the hive. Instead, it looks as if the individual bees just fly off and die.

"Do they simply peter out and lose energy? Or do they actually get disoriented? Both of those have been tied to diseases in the past," Evans said.

Bee turnover rates are typically high during the summer foraging season, Evans acknowledged. "In the summer, a 20,000-bee colony will completely turn over in about 30 days," he said.

Penn State entomologist Diana Cox-Foster, the lead author for the Science study, provided some additional perspective in an e-mail. If statistics scare you, feel free to skip over these paragraphs:

"A nationwide survey initiated in spring 2007 by the Apiary Inspectors of America  (van Engelsdorp et al., 2007) suggests that a 17 percent loss of colonies is considered normal in an average year.  This is astonishing, given that one would be hard-pressed to find another agricultural commodity that could sustain a 17 percent loss annually. This same survey also documented a recent increase in losses across the nation. An estimated 22 percent of beekeepers suffered CCD and lost on average 44.5 percent of their operation.

"In Pennsylvania since 1930, bee colonies have regularly been inspected for disease; thus, data from Pennsylvania provide an ideal database to monitor changes in incidences of bee diseases. To determine the scope of CCD, Dennis vanEngelsdorp (the acting state apiarist with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture) in conjunction with Apiary Inspectors of America has conducted a recent survey of Pennsylvania beekeepers that reveals a significant number of colonies collapsing with CCD.

"Among beekeepers owning 43 percent of Pennsylvania colonies and responding to the survey, the CCD-suffering beekeepers lost an average of 73 percent of their hives (ranging from 55 to 100 percent), compared with non-CCD suffering beekeepers who lost an average of 25 percent of their colonies (ranging from 18 to 31 percent).  Of significance, those reporting CCD own a quarter of all bee colonies in Pennsylvania. These losses translate into limited pollination resources for Pennsylvania and increased costs to both growers and consumers.

"In Pennsylvania, the current cost of pollination has increased by 50 percent and may increase even more as the 2007 season progresses."

As for the Africanized honey bees, Evans noted that they've been around for a couple of decades in the American Southwest, and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between the onslaught of the "killer bees" and the rise of CCD.

Domesticated bees have been having a hard time in recent years, not just because of the competition from killer bees, but also because of the spread of parasites such as Varroa mites. A cold winter here or a dry summer there can also deal a blow to bee colonies.

"There are years, winters essentially, that are bad for bees - with maybe 30 percent mortality," Evans said. But Colony Collapse Disorder is a pattern of bee loss that scientists haven't seen much before.

"These colonies where the bees just disappeared, two weeks before they were very robust. That points to someting new, as opposed to the winter losses that we've seen," Evans said.

Cox-Foster theorized that bee disappearances may have arisen as an evolutionary adaptation to past virus infections: Something in the stressed-out bee might trigger an urge to flee or short-circuit its directional sense, in order to save the rest of the colony from infection.  

The bee death mystery was solved long, long ago. I have been shocked you and others in the media do not read more. Note the following [article]: "A parasite common to Asian bees has spread to Europe and the Americas and is behind the mass disappearance of honeybees in many countries... says a Spanish scientist.... the culprit is a microscopic parasite called Nosema ceranae. ..." - Stephen Stiltner

Scientists did mention Nosema in the latest report, and I referred to it in my article as well. "It's all over the place," Evans noted. "Both species of that parasite are common in the U.S., and you can't make a strong correlation with the actual syndrome."

There have been previous claims for a CCD-like syndrome called "disappearing disease," reportedly going back as far as 1915, and some entomologists have proposed that the malady is due to a combination of a Nosema-style parasitic attack plus a viral infection. "It's not inconceivable that they co-occur, and only when they're together is a cause and effect," Evans said.

But taken just by itself, the presence of the Nosema parasite is "a pretty poor indicator" for CCD, Evans said.

I recently read several articles about the honeybee die-off at the Organic Consumers Association that I found interesting. I would really like to know if it is true that "organic" bees are not suffering the die-off. - Cathy Evans 

"We tend to see this phenomenon more in larger commercial beekeepers who migrate," Jeff Pettis, a colleague of Evans' who worked on the latest study in Science, told reporters earlier this week. "So I think just by default, when you're organic-beekeeping, you tend to be a little more labor-intensive, and may not manage as many colonies, nor are you as migratory. I don't know, we've not looked in detail at that."

I suggest you Google for "france bees termidor" and the chemical Fipronil. This chemical was found to be directly responsible for the bee die-off in France and they have banned it. I think the chemical companies are pulling the wool over our eyes and sending us on a wild goose chase for viruses when the real cause of the die-off is insecticides. - Jeff

Cox-Foster said pesticides are "still on the table" as a contributing factor for CCD, and Evans agreed that Fipronil is a "serious chemical that's been shown to affect bees." Researchers are looking into the effects of a variety of pesticides, including a class of chemicals known as neonicotinoids.

"It's not good for bees, for sure, and its usage has increased, but the usage hasn't increased in the past year enough to show a sudden effect, in my opinion," Evans said. "Again, it's one of those things that needs to be ruled out more before we ignore it."

May I suggest the die-off is caused in large part by genetically engineered crops poisoning the bees. ... - Jim Dersch

Cox-Foster said genetically modified crops were "low on the list" of suspects for the cause of CCD. "The evidence to date ... shows that bees feeding on pollen from transgenic corn had as good a survivorship or better survivorship than bees feeding on normal pollen," she said. 

When I read my first "disappearing bees" article (being a keen gardener), I was very much concerned about the bee die-off and over the last few years have paid very much attention to any other articles that I happened upon. Then I read an article stating that the bee is not even indigenous to the U.S. They originally were European bees that were brought over by people that settled here. ... I have to begin to wonder if the bee problem is another excuse for scientists to obtain funding and grants to stir up something that isn't something we need to worry about. Other insects, the wind, birds and the natural order of things help pollinate our crops and according to the article, bees were not a part of that natural process on this continent. I am a firm believer that our importation of non-indigenous animals and insects has affected our natural balance for the worse. - Carrie

It's true that honeybees are not indigenous to the United States, but through the many years that the bees have been here, our economy has come to rely upon them for pollination (in addition to the honey). If all the honeybees were to disappear tomorrow, billions of dollars' worth of agricultural produce would be lost. Of course, scientists are looking at other means of pollination, including different species of bees. The situation may well change in the decades ahead - but adjusting to that changing environment will call for more research, not less.

After finding many dead bees on my driveway and some just walking around, eventually dying as well, I wondered where they were coming from until I discovered a large beehive in towards the top of the canopy of a tree in front of my house. ... After reading your article, I thought that someone locally may be interested in studying this colony which may be carrying some virus.  In writing your article, might you have a contact of someone in the Miami area that may be interested in this colony? - Fernando Horruitiner

The best nearby resource would be the agricultural extension service - in your case, the Miami-Dade County Extension Office.

If you have something you want to discuss with a knowledgeable community of beekeepers and researchers, Evans suggests joining the BEE-L discussion list. But as always with such forums, you'd do well to familiarize yourself with the list archives first.

And if you have a humdinger of a question, Evans recommends getting in contact with Jerry Hayes, who conveniently hangs out at Florida's Bureau of Plant and Apiary Inspection. Hayes' column for the American Bee Journal, titled "The Classroom," is as indispensable for bee lovers as "Car Talk" is for car lovers, Evans said. You'll find plenty there about Colony Collapse Disorder and other bee curiosities.

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I would be less worried about the possible effect of the ailment of the bees on people than I would about the loss of bees. Without bees we all will get very hungry and the ailment of the bees will be the last thing on our minds. If the cause is indeed from human tinkering and tampering, we had damn well find out exactly what we have done and stop it immediately.
THIS CONDITION IS EVERYWHERE and therefore doubtful it's contagious (think about it). Then what could it be? I think i know.
Mass extinctions are ALMOST ALWAYS caused by climate change. That's what's doing it.
I live in Seattle.
Walking around i have noticed bees here and there,
just looking lost and crawling along the ground or grass.
There seems to be a conflict with the urban lifestyle and honeybees. As I have helped to kill two different colonies since they took up residence in the house. It was a sad event. We couldn't find anyone to help in their removal without a high cost. So you're stuck killing them. This really seems to be the real problem.
I am less concerned about if the disease, if that is the case, can pass on to human and I'm more concerned with the effect this could have on so many balances in nature. We could be in big trouble if bees keep dying. We never realize how important bees are. If we are doing this to the bees then we had better fix it, and quickly.
I remember when diet sodas first became popular we stopped to watch bees collecting the sweet DIET  soda to take back to the colony.  I wondered then what effect it might have on the bee population.  
If the bees are collecting artificialy sweetened syrups (they can't tell the difference) then the honey they depend on for food and sustenance would have no food energy. Because hives work the same spots all the time, the energy level of the colony would all be depleted at the same time and hence the entire colony would disappear and or die all at the same time.  
The prevalence of disappearing hives around populated areas would tend to support this theory.  The more people, the more diet soft drinks in trash cans and on the ground for the bees to acquire what they perceive as an easy find.
If there is naturally a 30-day turnover, is it possible the bees are just not reproducing for some reason?
the military is beaming high frequecy waves all over the united states as part of their homeland shield project, bees have an organ that senses vibrations as a form of communication between workers, queen and drone honey bees. If they can tall one another where a food source is , How does it feel when some idot blasts static in your ears wile you travel? Has anyone examined a dead bee with a healthy one?
Tell me, how are crops pollinated in countries that have no bees?

This is a really important issue.  Alan Boyle has done an excellent job of answering many questions about why these bees are dying.  There is a viral disease that may be a big part of the explanation, but it probably is more complicated than that.

This is a complex, biological issue with a major human intervention aspect (bee keeping).  It won't be answered soon

Let's wake up and face the music: WE are the most likely cause of the honeybee dieoff. Even just a 1% increase in a certain pesticide/insecticide, or combination, or a new-to-the market similar posion used on or around crops and thus bees could well be the root cause here. It's NOT necessarily quantity of the poison; it could well be the deadly quality. Don't be fooled by the usual lopsided scientific mumbo-jumbo propaganda "we don't know enough" BS—they're most all on the payroll of the chemical companies, if you follow the rabbit holes deep enough. Remember the butterfly effect: a tiny change can cause massive impact—and often without a visible or direct "scientific" cause-effect relationship. The vested chemical interests, those massive money-making machines that turn out millions of tons of "safe" pesticides/insecticides and other poisons that goes into our conventional crop growing efforts every day, will do everything in their power to get us to look the other way and chase some phantom big bad virus—what utter nonsense.
Remember DDT and how "safe" the chemical companies told us it was?
READ Rachel Carson's classic "Silent Spring." READ John Robbins' "Diet for a New America." LEARN about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his environmental protection efforts through the Waterkeeper Alliance. Take charge now: BUY ORGANIC and support organic farmers at every turn, reduce/eliminate your use and trashing of chemicals at every point in your life, from antibacterial soaps to bug spray to diet soda... before it's too late and the honeybees never come home...
This is heartbreakingly serious for the bees, Nature, us and the planet. You are a leader and a powerful force of one: time to act like one.

Folks, I'm going to have to disagree with the initial premise, that honeybees are in a state of emergency.

I've worked with stinging insects of all kinds for 30+ years now, primarily in removing them from buildings and other places where they are unwanted.  I don't kill the honeybees, but put them in boxes and take them home.  Then I sell some, etc.

Speaking personally, I've never seen such an explosion of honeybees in my life than there has been in the past 3 years.  Most years before that, about the earliest I'd see a swarm would be April.  Now they are starting in February and March, and lasting through July.

A conservative estimate of the number of calls I received this spring alone would be about 250.  Some of the guys who remove bees in this area were so swamped that they arranged for their phones to be disconnected!

I just took out 3 colonies from a building two days ago!  So all I can say is "Shortage???  What shortage?"  You're being sold a bill of goods.
If the virus is carried by varroa and tracheal mites (which decimate bee colonies all on their own) the use of mint oils combined with tacky liquids that cause the bees to track it into their hives disrupts the breeding cycle of the mites, hence eliminating them organically.
All I know is that this isn't good for anyone.
I'm not sure how long we, as a species, could live with out the bees.. seems like its a pretty important issue..unlike some of the issues that are currently front and center.
Interesting article.  I agree with the comment above that development could be an overall factor.  Lack of hollow trees and overzealous home imporovers could both be having an affect on the available habitat for bees, bats and other beautiful and necessary creatures.

Our family has had for decades a colony (or colonies) of bees living in the back wall of our screened in porch.  The rest of the house has had numerous improvements but we leave this one section alone.  The bees have never moved though the outside wall and cause no harm except for creating the exterior entry though wooden shingles.  
I have worked at the local apiary office and have bee keeper friends who have given me good advice on how to move them to a new home but I'd rather leave them living free where they are to pollinate the garden.

I respect the agricultural inspection process but these wild bees give us great benefit and require little if any attention.  If the colony ever left, or the house was compromised in some real way, I would set up a hive but for now they and we are fine.  Beautiful to see their golden bodies when they swarm on the first warm spring day.

So, if you find youself with a hive in your house do not despair.  Contact your state Department of Agriculture and they will connect you with someone to remove your bees or provide you with resources to set up and external hive of your own.  
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/05/050517110843.htm

Penn State researchers linked Varroa destructor mites to bee colony collapse in a report published 17 May 2005 in the online version of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.  Nothing in the two years since then has changed, except that the Varroa mites have increased their range and levels of infestation where they have already established a foothold.  

It may be that the only solution will be to bring in Chinese bees that have genetically developed grooming habits that remove the mites before they can do too much damage to the hive.    
Another possibility that came to mind, would be accidents involving chemical spills in the affected areas, this should be researched. Since the problem is such a sudden one and not a slow decline, the problem could have resulted from a single event like a spill, and now it is just a matter of waiting for the bee population to recover?
im concerned its much worse then we think its not just bees its all kinds of animals washing up on beaches birds in major citys like new york etc have found large amounts of dead birds and lately i keep seeing military jets flying in grids leaving trails behind them that cover the sky on a clear day til its all smoggy and its a few times a month ive never seen anything this disturbing when you really start watching and pondering the times we find ourselves in

GM crops alone don't kill the bees, they make them extremely vulnerable to disease and parasites - this has been observed and reported consistently. To say otherwise is a flat out lie - something common place from our government agencies today.

It's the economic might of Monsanto and friends pushing media and government agencies to ignore evidence of herbicide, pesticide, and GM damage to bees.
We're doomed!  I know people are generally stupid, but I had no idea: "It's the genetically engineered crops, I tell ya"... "Some guy in Spain said it's Nosema so all you media people are idiots"... "I'm a keen gardener and honeybees aren't native to North America, therefore we should stop giving scientists research money"...  Are we really this dumb?  Boy, if our "logic" is this haywire over bees, there's no way in hell we're going to survive a real problem.

To the person above that stated it's not a problem since bees were imported from Europe. Yes bees were imported, but why were they imported? To pollinate the large fields that European settlers were planting. Farming used to be small scale, large scale farming needs a lot of efficient pollinators. And pollinators that were there available to your field when your crop needed them for pollination. And I think it was Albert Einstein that stated the human race wouldn't survive five years without honeybees.

Pesticide use combined with disease pressure are my vote.

And if you believe that the chemicals they spray are safe, did you know that only 2% of new chemicals put onto the market each year are tested for safety?  That's the reason we just recently switched to as much organic foods as we can get. And use only bleach and ammonia for cleaning.

We have had a hive for at least 17 years and have so far been lucky concerning CCD..We have had hives die off about four times over the years. We treat the mite problem with antibiotics and hope for the best. I live in a small town with no agriculture. I love my bees and provide many birdbaths with clean water for them as well as two ponds. I rescue them when they fall in and they never sting me. Please never kill a hive but call your local extension office.
There is a range of pollinators. Just spend time in your garden and you'll see. Hover flies are one as are bubble bees. Of course honey bees are a major player. Western Canada is feeling this problem too. Alberta alone has a reduction of some 40% in the honey bee population. Bees know no borders.
Re: The bee questions that bug you

The disappearing bee problem is monumental regarding the consequences to the pollination of plants and for agriculture generally. Without the bees we are doomed.
My short list of 'usual suspects' for the cause of the problem is wireless communications.
If you can recall, a few months ago, we discussed right here in Alan's Cosmic Log the issue of reduced sperm count in men caused by cell phone (excessive?) use. It is not unreasonable to believe that a biological organism as delicate as a honey bee could become disoriented because of the introduction of some bizarre frequency that is being transmitted via wireless communications.
It would be quite easy to design an experiment to determine if the bees are being affected by wireless communications.
We also do not know, yet, if the bee problem is identical in all regions of the globe. Unfortunately, the 'mysterious virus' reasoning is critically flawed because of the failure to examine hives in environments that are insulated from wireles communications.
I am not proposing getting rid of wireless communications but an investigation should be conducted to see if there is a need for a signal or frequency adjustment.
There were always a few small bee hives outside of my home. Within 4 months of my installing a home wireless network all of the bees disappeared. This fact is insufficient to conclude that wireless communications are disorienting the bees but does suggest an area of investigation.
Nevertheless, I am convinced that the problem is technological and has nothing, whatsoever, to do with any virus.



While vacationing in the UK years ago, I remember a widespread news story that a large migration of monarch butterflies died after feeding on a field of genetically modified crops in the western US. The story was all but ignored in the States of course. With all theories on the table, I find it suspicious that any suggestion that GM pollen could play a role gets so quickly dismissed by the lobbyists. How about a legitimate study if they're so sure it play no role?
yes i am bugged by the bees, enough with these witty headline titles and turmoil about friggen bee's for christ's sake.
Monsanto, the US govt and the big drug companies, which are all the same organization. Between the pesticide laden organic crops and the chemical trails coving our skies, they will have a whole new generation of cancer patients to sell more drugs to. The US govt is in the death industry plain and simple. There are evil people running this planet. Like the guy up above said, you are a power of one and it is time you did something about this, dont buy chemicals of ANY kind, buy organic, garden, boycott ALL big corporations. Take back our world.
Bees do not feed on diet soda. Those are yellow-jacket wasps, and they closely resemble honey bees.  They give bees a bad name around summertime picnic spots, especially cider mills and apple orchards.
I live in north eastern Ontario and I have also seen fewer honey bees around this past summer, although there has been a proliferation of paper wasps. One of the more interesting comments I have read, came in the fifth box from the top of this list. If empty diet soft drink cans are responsible for giving bees a "free drink" of potentially toxic non-sugar drinks, it may be wise to keep the bees away from these chemicals by hanging a bag (made of simple panty hose) filled with moth balls inside the large recycle dumpsters. This will not only keep the bees out of the dumpsters and assist in keeping them healthy, it will also make it easier for people to recycle their pop cans without having an army of swarming bees coming out of the dumpster while they are depositing the cans.  Another simple idea would be to twice rinse out the pop cans before recycling them. Bees are very important to all of us; let's protect every one that we can.
Has it been mentioned about just plain ol' loss of natural habitat? I know with all of the destruction of wooded areas and wild lands here in eastern Virginia, to make way for various housing and business developments, there is a HUGE loss of natural resources. That would amount to a huge loss in habitat for wild bees.

When I first moved into my home almost 10 years ago, the wild clover growing in the lawn was very active with honey bees. Nowadays, I hardly see any at all. I purposely leave various areas of clover un-mowed so that the bees have some access to flowers/feed spots. That also, the loss of any type of food source with all the building going on around here, must be devastating to any remaining colonies.

I wish there was something else I could do besides let the clover grow ... :(
In times like this men such as Prof Morse are sorely missed.
It's GM food. How obvious can the data be? Lobbyists are sure good at performing cover-ups. Despite the pretty outstanding evidence of it being due to certain GM strains (the maps show it all), no media reports even question GM's role.
I have heard one theory that cell phone towers may be partly to blame - but that no one wants to do more than lip service to this, because cell phones are so important to Americans. Has this particular issue been looked at and been proven to be unrelated? I have noticed far fewer bees than at any time in my life, and I do believe we should be concerned about it's impact (BTW - I saw lots of them while visiting Canada (Niagara on the Lake) recently).
It's the Bee Rapture.

All the good bees are being taken to Bee Heaven, while the sinful bees are being Left Behind(tm).
This is a related personal observation.

The area around my family farm had been infested with some  type of paper wasp for as long as anyone remembers(about 60 years) 2 years ago they just all disappeared. I have no idea what caused it but pesticides are pretty much out as none are used here.

Oddly the fall before they disappeared a cell tower was errected about 1/2 a mile away.
I'm curious if "Carrie" considers people of European descent to be among the "non-indigenous animals" whose importation "has affected our natural balance for the worse."
Last week, I heard the about the Northwest Passage being completely open for the first time in recorded history.  Reports of frog species declining in most parts of the world, and this latest information about the bees should lead everyone, outside of the petro-governmental marriage, to the realization that we are standing on a crumbling foundation.

The question is, "Will we be able to live on our orbiting rock once the damage has been done?"

What always seems to get emphasized the most with topics like this are the "immediate" consequences to the human race (food, honey, beekeepers, etc.). However important these are, of more long term concern is the impact to nature (which we are part of, like it or not!).

Just think of the consequences to all of nature without our natural pollinators - the implications are disturbing! Also, I live in Fl and have a deck and every year I get wasps, yellow jackets, and dirt dobbers building nests inside the structure. This year, absolutely nothing! I think the problem is far more reaching than we think (I have also seen a dramatic bumble bee decrease). Comments??
I have been concerned about the vast web of microwaves that we have spun all over our globe. This must have some effect on all migretory creatures, like birds butterflies, bees, atc.  I would like to know where to read about this subject. Thank You
Ya know, not everything is attributable to the farce of global warming, and not every perceived negative is the result of widespread conspiracies. The world's chemical and oil companies are NOT out to get us and increase in CO2 are not making it hotter. Grow up, research topics that interest you, and comment intelligently. Broad, sweeping statements do not further any discussion and are almost always wrong. As difficult as it may be to believe, sometimes things occur that are not a result of man's intervention, conspiracies, or actions. Man is not out to eliminate bees through some grand chemical conspiracy. It is likely nature doing what nature does.
I heard that bees can be very beneficial to our lives.  There was a useful tip on this at www.oktipus.com
I count only two references in all of this to Cell Phone transponders - one of the more disturbing possible causes of CCD, but also one that should be easy to confirm and/or eliminate. Why no mention of it in the main article Alan? Is there a published study somewhere that has already ruled it out?
Read an article from the "Second Opinion".  It made reference to the dying of bee colonies to the High Fructose Corn syrup.  The beekeepers use a simple syrup in the hives.  Hello!!  High Fructose Corn Syrup is derived from Genetically modified corn.  YUK!! Read up on that and wonder why some organic beekeepers are sticking to sugar in their simple syrups.  Is anything real anymore?  The bees ingest the HFCS and it poisons the bees.  The article said that they did autopsies on the bees.  So, tell me again why the colonies of bees are dying? And, why are we ingesting so much HFCS as humans.  Where's the sugar?
Here's a curiousity question:

If European honeybees can be killed by a virus and Africanized honeybees can kill humans, can't Africanized honeybees be exposed to the virus?  Africanized honeybees were an experiment that was released, albeit inadvertently, into the wild.  They now have travelled north from brazil to the U.S. Southwest region and a recent article mentions they're now in New Orleans and are beginning to migrate east.  Why doesn't anyone experiment with the Africanized honeybees to determine what will kill them and then introduce this venom into their colonies?
Why do so many immediately blame this on "global warming." No one seems to think that maybe the IPCC conclusions are wrong.

Tell me this:
How can scientists reach a conclusion of 90% probability, from less than 1% of the total potential body of data? Think about this seriously: the planet is 4.5 billion years old. Assuming accurate data for 45 million years, that's only 1% of the total data possible. We don't have anywhere near that, and 1% is probably too generous.

We don't have enough accurate, verifiable records or knowledge of natural sciences to make any definite conclusions. A computer model can only process the data it has been fed using the programming it has. One error in either causes a flawed result. They can't even predict the weather tomorrow, much less in 100 years.

Stop automatically assuming the IPCC/UN is right and true. They are not the savior of the world. They have allowed millions to be slaughtered rather than fulfill their mandate. They exist today to control the U.S. period. They are not our friends. Don't just blindly trust them and accept what they say without question.

That said, we should pursue cleaner, sustainable energy sources and manage our resources more wisely. But allowing the UN to cram this down our throats will lead to a real doomsday where the U.S. is blamed for and held responsible for every disaster of poor farming techniques, natural climate shifts (yes, they do happen), unexplained species migrations/disappearances, and on forever. QUESTION IT!!!

Has it occurred to anyone to wonder why humans automatically want to think everything is our fault? Maybe because if it is our fault, then we have some power over it; if it isn't our fault, we are helpless.
From what I have read, the CCD is more of a problem for the  bee keepers that migrate hives from one crop location to another.  As a bee keeper for 15 years, I have not had problems with CCD. Most of my bees have been caught from swarms in the Jackson Ms area. They seem to have developed a resistance to mites and have not disappeared all of a sudden.
Until July, I have not had any problems with losses of bees except over  the winter .  Meaby 10 % max loss.
Today, I am having a terrible problem with the Small Hive beetle ( SHB ). Of the 47 hives the first of July, I am down to 27 hives and afraid of loosing more before the first cold snap. The SHB contaminates the hive and starts eating the eggs and small larvie. Once the bee population dwendles to a certain population, then the beetle starts laying eggs. In app 2 to 3 days, the larvie start taking over the hive and destroys the honey bound cone.

Can anybody comment on what to do to control the SHB?
mr. l sudbeck
as regards the SHB .... try and keep the entrance to each colony as small as possible .......this will help the guarding workers to work more effectively.let me know if u agree and if it helps
I would like to agree, but I cannot. Even what use to be some of my strongest hives, with a single entrance, some have dwindled down and failed to the SHB.
One hive with an entrance of 2" x 3/4", I used my smoker to settle the bees for an inspection.  Immediately the SHB's starter leaving.  After approximaely 10 minutes of smoking the hive every now and then, I had killed approximately 285 SHB/'s.

Any other suggestions?
Comments on the mail hereunder about fipronil and bees.
Fipronil has not be proven to cause massive bee kills in France. None of the scientific studies evaluated by the European Food Safety Agency and French equivalent agency show a negative effect on bees or the colonies.

After several years of no agricultural use of fipronil  in France, bees are still facing problems and people look more and more towards diseases, amount/diversity of food supply. Improvement of some beekeping practices, the creation of a technical comptence center which can provide solid support to beekeepers are also considered.

Comments on :
"I suggest you Google for "france bees termidor" and the chemical Fipronil. This chemical was found to be directly responsible for the bee die-off in France and they have banned it. I think the chemical companies are pulling the wool over our eyes and sending us on a wild goose chase for viruses when the real cause of the die-off is insecticides. - Jeff"
bees are used to make products in factories. tell me more.


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