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Sizing up the space hotel

Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:55 PM by Alan Boyle


Galactic Suite
This artist's conception shows a Galactic Suite hotel serviced by a space shuttle.
Executives at 4Frontiers say the final designs may be dramatically different.

Can a Spanish-led venture really put a luxury space hotel in orbit by 2012? No way, says a Florida firm that has served as a consultant to the Galactic Suite venture. But if you look beyond 2015, the job just might be doable, representatives of 4Frontiers Corp. say.

Barcelona-based Galactic Suite made a splash last week when a Reuters article quoted the venture's director, Xavier Claramunt, as saying he expected to put up the world's first space hotel in 2012. Tourists would undergo training in a James Bondish space camp, then fly up for a three-day, $4 million stay on a private space station, according to Reuters.

The Reuters article, which provided much of the raw material for our own report on the Galactic Suite concept, said an American company intent on colonizing Mars had "come on board" for the project.

That company happens to be 4Frontiers, a space commerce company that was founded two years ago in New Port Richey, Fla. The company is trying to work its way into a variety of projects - ranging from consultation on space settlement issues, to curriculum development for elementary- and middle-school science classes, to space-themed entertainment and space-branded gifts and accessories.

Mark Homnick, the chief executive officer and co-founder of 4Frontiers, told me this week that Galactic Suite hired his firm "as a consultant to provide strategic business planning insights," and to turn the venture's artwork into "components that are adaptable into current space hardware."

Homnick quickly brought the high-flown claims in the Reuters report back down to Earth. For example, he noted that Bigelow Aerospace is planning to launch a habitable Sundancer space module in 2010 or earlier. If Bigelow is able to follow that timeline, Sundancer could be considered the world's first space hotel (unless you regard the international space station as a glorified tourist destination).

Galactic Suite would certainly not be in the orbital business in 2012, primarily because there wouldn't be a reliable way to get tourists up there in the numbers required, Homnick said.

"We do expect somewhat improved orbital access to be available for tourism in that time frame ... but the amount of folks who can go up there will be pretty limited," he said. "Why would we put an orbital resort there that no one can reach?"

Homnick said he's guessing that the required launch capability won't be available until 2015 or later. And he said 4Frontiers has already begun making contacts with the companies that might be providing those capabilities in the years ahead.

"I believe that the response to the Galactic Suite orbital resort concept is going to be an early indicator for the success of other initiatives," he said.

So is Galactic Suite for real after all? That's hard to judge, even for 4Frontiers. Homnick emphasized that his company has not yet decided what its relationship with Galactic Suite will be over the long term. "We're going through a due-diligence process," Homnick said. "This is pretty early on."

He declined to discuss what he knew about Galactic Suite's finances - for example, the claim in the Reuters report that the venture already has found a space enthusiast willing to front "most of the $3 billion needed to build the hotel."

"I hate to say 'no comment,' but unfortunately we don't have much leeway" due to legal restrictions on what can be publicly discussed, Homnick said.

In any case, it appears that the venture is intriguing enough to engage the interest of someone who draws upon more than two decades of hard-core business experience at AT&T and Intel. Homnick says the fact that he and his 4Frontiers colleagues are still talking with the folks at Galactic Suite should count for something. 

"Obviously, we wouldn't have gone with them and wouldn't have spent a lot of time with them unless we were interested in them as a client," he said.

There's a "giggle factor" that surrounds any venture that talks about building cities in space, or mining asteroids, or colonizing another planet. That goes for 4Frontiers as well as for Galactic Suite. But Homnick and his colleagues are willing to start with the smaller steps here on Earth - like the Crazy4Mars Web site, for instance - and have faith that the giggles will eventually die away.

"Certainly this is speculative," Homnick said. "Certainly the orbital resort is challenging in itself. It's quite speculative. But still, it's the kind of thing that we have to start talking about."

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Who will win the space-hotel race: Bigelow or Galactic Suite?

Answer: The one who figures out how to get their guests to have pleasant SEX on zero-g ;-)

PS: Has anyone an idea of how many guests per trip these guys of Galactic Suite are aiming for? 3? 4?

And how many crew members?
Galactic Suite is clearly bogus.  Bigelow already has two test modules in orbit, a sophisticated mission control center, and large antennas to communicate with their spacecraft in multiple locations.  These GS people, as far as anyone knows, have nothing but a press release and a viewgraph drawing of a station with no apparent power source, no radiators, absurdly large and impractically designed windows, and a spacecraft docked to them that doesn't exist and that nobody else has announced plans to develop.  Even if they have the money, I doubt they have the competence to apply it properly.  This will at best be a spectacular trainwreck of DeLorean proportions, but most likely just some vaporware fantasy.  The kooks always begin with a grandiose press release, while serious folks tend to be tight-lipped until there's something to talk about.
It is my opinion that the "giggle factor" is the same that most advances in technology saw. Although there will be some problems with initial trips, in both the hotel, and future colonization efforts, they arise because of the approach being before the solutions to the problems have been solved. At some point they will be, so why not now? (And I agree with red pill junkie about the sex in space lol)
look for Galactic Suite to use Gaia Two as its transport vehicle, as well as for the hotel itself...originally designed with Branson's operation in mind...(he started out with Hotel Galactica, by the way)...the entire inflatable hotel can be returned safely with guests intact...etc...you've all seen the rest of my pitch...let's see what happens, eh?
I think part of the giggle factor lies not only in the unproven technology, but in the massive failure of NASA to inspire the general population in matters of space exploration.  This is due to the fact that in recent times, with the exception of a few very notably successful and popular unmanned missions, there has been very little progress or excitement generated.

In all fairness, it's not entirely NASA's fault.  The general public does not appreciate the huge benefits of space exploration, or technological advancement in general as a means of improving the human condition and helping to assure our survival in the future.

My hope lies almost solely in the private sector. Real progress will be lead by private individuals who have the dreams and the will to make them a reality. If the   people at GS have the right stuff, then good for them.  It's easy to be overly optimistic at this point in the game, and they may not achieve their goals on schedule.  But they shouldn't give up their dreams, even if Bigelow gets there first.

It seems certain to me that SOMEONE is going to get this party started -- and soon.  There will be setbacks for sure -- but I hope that we will have the fortitude to use failure as an inspiration to do better, and not as an excuse to give up.  

We are lucky to live in such an exciting time, where change will be rapid and dramatic.

There's already an hotel in orbit...   It's called the International Space Station, and it (and it's support) gobble up over one-third of NASA's entire budget.

Johnny B.: the reason NASA can't inspire people with it's 'manned' program is that there's little exciting about endlessly wearing out low earth orbit . . .
I agree that someone will do these things, and soon. Good for them, I dont care who it is, but I will admit, my money is on Bigalow. He has the experience, what little there is, and the hardware already proven. But I hope a dozen others will jump in soon, Nasa is an Old-Boys -club of military and government corps who have long term contracts. I wish they were better than they are with all the money they spend, but they arent. Maybe if all their contracts had some teeth, like deadlines with  technological improvements on time, or drop the contract and aply fines..but then that would be too much like a profitable business for a government organization.
I agree, these guys have the right spirit, but I believe they're at least 10, maybe 15 years ahead of themselves, espically in terms of access to their station.

But this is the sort of thing one *ultimately* wants to see, yes...


Bigelow with his last two Genesis vehicles flew cockroaches as 'life systems'...neither survived (the first vehicle per Bigelow himself...wanted these critters flown even though it was not a pressurized payload....they would be exposed to space vacuum for at least two hours) the second vehicle Genesis II had a 'pressurized' payload with cockroaches and scorpions...lasted maybe a week(There was a whole story posted on Bigelow's website about how and why the cockroaches were being flown as a payload...it has all been taken down). So you think Bigelow in just a few years is going to build a human habitation in space??? I hope those vistors to Bigelow's space hotel have some really long duration space suits to keep them alive.
Yes Jimbo, Bigelow plans to put a human rated life support system on its modules intended for human use.

Testing structural integrity and comms were the primary goals of the genesis program.  I think Bigelow did not feel developing a human capible life support system for a test module was not a cost effective expenditure


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