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TV vs. terror

Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:12 PM by Alan Boyle


AP
Two police officers view screens in the Central Communications Command Center
for London's Metropolitan Police, where CCTV footage is recorded for use.

The rapid advance of the investigation into the latest wave of terror attacks in Britain illustrates how video surveillance has become an increasingly important part of the anti-terror toolkit, even if the process still depends primarily on investigators sifting through piles of videotape.

Experts say the next wave of analytical tools - ranging from license-plate identification to facial recognition to psychological profiling - is well on its way from mere science fiction to reality.

Britain is considered the world leader in video surveillance, with an estimated 4.2 million closed-circuit TV cameras trained on people as they go about their daily business. In the course of a day, the typical Londoner is said to be caught on tape more than 300 times.

Although investigators are keeping mum about many of the details surrounding this week's anti-terror investigation, they have said some suspects were spotted on video as they parked two cars that were wired up to explode. Evidence recovered from the cars - and the cellular phones found within - quickly led to a crackdown, even as yet another attack was mounted in Glasgow.

The role that video surveillance played in the investigation led to calls for similar systems to be expanded in Germany, the United States and other locales. "I think it's just common sense to do that here much more widely," Sen. Joe Liebermann, I-Conn., said on ABC.


AP
CCTV cameras are mounted on a pole near
Westminster Palace in London.

Britain started putting in its video surveillance systems well before 9/11, in response to infamous street crimes as well as IRA bombings. But the upswing in the anti-terrorism applications of CCTV really took off after the 2005 London bombings, when video grabs of suspects were distributed soon after the attacks, said Peter Fry, director of the British-based CCTV User Group.

"Since the London bombings, there have been all sorts of research projects going on ... looking at how the system can speed up the search," Fry told me.

In those days, investigators had to gather up somewhere on the order of 100,000 tapes, which could represent millions of hours of viewing if you were to look at each one, Fry said. "It's a case of being selective," he explained.

Things haven't changed much since then. "There are some systems that can search for particular characteristics from the digital system, but for the vast majority of them, it's a matter of going through all the images and looking for the ones you want," Fry said.

But the current case is likely to be somewhat easier than the 2005 investigation, in that authorities will be tracing events backward from the cars that were spotted on London streets. "They knew exactly what they wanted to begin with, which was someone running away from the car," Fry said.

An additional quirk of London's traffic-monitoring system may be of help: The city uses an automatic license-plate number recognition system to trace every car entering a central congestion zone - so that the motorists can be charged a usage tax. "I imagine that the police, and certainly the security services, have access to that," Fry told me.

Making the search for video imagery speedier is just one focus of surveillance research, said Fry, whose organization represents 600 public and private CCTV-using organizations in Britain. Scientists are also working on ways to make "Big Brother" smarter.

"In the future, you will be able to say, let me look at all the red cars parked in such-and-such an area at such-and-such a time," Fry said.

One research group at Loughborough University is even trying to figure out a way to stop gun crimes before they start - which summons up visions of the pre-crime analytical wing from "Minority Report," Philip K. Dick's sci-fi classic.

Loughborough's Project MEDUSA is looking for the visual and behavioral cues that distinguish people who carry guns - and trying to figure out whether human analysts, or even computers, can be trained to recognize those cues on surveillance video in advance of a crime. That could lead to a kind of before-the-fact psychological profiling.

"That's probably going to be a long way off, but the way CCTV is developing, there's a tremendous amount of work going on in the field of video analytics," Fry said.

It's the ability to sift through mounds of image data quickly that gives video surveillance systems their real power. William Daly, a former FBI investigator who is now senior vice president of Control Risks Group, said video systems become particularly good investigative tools "if you couple them with things like facial recognition, or if you're looking for particular license plates."

All this raises an obvious question about privacy, particularly as the surveillance systems get smarter. "There are going to be issues of personal liberty," NBC terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann acknowledged.

Daly said the concerns should be minimal as long as the cameras were merely watching public spaces. "I don't have any expectation [of privacy] as I walk down the streets of New York," he said. And Kohlmann said further limitations on liberty might just have to come with the anti-terror territory.

"The benefits here are huge," he said on MSNBC. "One picture is worth a thousand words, and if you look at the 7/21 bombing investigation in London [in 2005], that investigation would have been nearly impossible without the use of CCTV camera footage. I think it's just a reality we have to live with: E-mail gets monitored, phone calls sometimes get monitored. Unfortunately, if you walk down the street in a major city, there's a chance you might be recorded on video."

For a replay of the discussion on MSNBC, watch this video, then read this commentary from NBC military analyst Jack Jacobs. To get the perspective from privacy advocates, check out these resources from the Electronic Privacy Information Center. And to weigh in on whether it's right (or even practical) to put ourselves under closer surveillance, feel free to leave your comments below.

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t.v. cameras is really a good deterrent to fight any forms of criminalities whether for anti-terror measure or others. putting it in a public place can thwart and resolve immediately crime that happens. crime solution will be effectively handled and no mistakes as to mistaken identity. how i wish our country has that tools also like yours.
I agree that the US should have much more survelliance of all kinds.  The word "privacy" is now equivalent with the generic word "because" that kids so often provide to their parents when asked why they want something.  I have nothing to hide and so if someone wants to listen to my calls, e-mails, and movements I am more than willing and happy to oblige.  I can't think of a solid reason why anyone who likewise has nothing to hide should object other than the vague "privacy" / "because" excuse.  Get off the whole principle thing and get pragmatic.
Am I the only person who thinks this is a TERRIBLE idea?  I'm a good person, a good citizen... I don't break laws... Therefore I have the right to FREEDOM and PRIVACY.  NOBODY should EVER have the right to photograph, videotape or record me or my actions for ANY reason.  The idea of the government monitoring and tracking my movements and indeed my very life is SCARY!  REALLY SCARY!  

Honestly, though, soldiers fight and die to protect our freedoms and privacy. Why are why so willing to give up our freedoms... Fear? I would rather die (free) in a terrorist bombing then to have my ENTIRE life on videotape at some FBI or CIA or POLICE building.

Have the courage to not fear the terrorists (fear is what they WANT).  Don't relinquish your freedom and privacy (that is what they WANT).  It scares me that I might be FORCED to move to Montana someday just so I can have my freedom.  
Everyone seems to watch too much CSI. While the vidoe recordings help investigations. They are not "perfect". Everyone is looking for that silver bullet. And most people think that only law enforcement will have access to the footage. Maybe government might decide to post statistics about traffic at a certain location. Well, that could effect property values. A property owner might not like the consequences of most people having this knowledge. Where might this "butterfly" effect lead? I am not trying to be negative, because I think only negative things can come of this.  But I think a lot of people tend to jump on the postitive band-wagon.  Some time should be taken to think about both the postitive and negative possibilities.
In the post 9/11 world intelligent surveillance is a neccesity not a luxury.There are many refferences in the article about "intelligent surveillance" and how these systems are a thing of the near future, what most people do not realise is that these high resolution  systems are not only available today but are now very cost competetive when compared to existing "non-Intelligent"systems.As an example check out www.mobotix.com.
For those of you who don't have anything to hide, I suggest you re-read the book, 1984 by Huxley, then imagine yourself living in a world like that!  Wait a minute--we already do!
I agree with the person who talked about term of privacy. For the benefit and the security of our country we have to walk over any kind of privacy.
In Pakistan terrorist shoot guns, police shoot tear gas.  Terrorist threaten to kill women and maim children with suicide bombers if we try to restrict their activity; authorities threaten to investigate and arrest.  Suicide bombers are saner than our insanely suicidal society.
If susucude bombers are not affraid to die, do they care if we take thier picture??  Will putting their ashes on trial make us feel better?
Two words: Police State.

Go back and read 1984, watch Minority Report, etc.

The future is now, and it isn't the Isaac Asimov/Carl Sagan version of the future, it's the William Gibson/George Orwell version.
I agree we need more surveillance systems in public and sensitive areas.

But there has to be a balance. People have fought and died for our freedoms throughout our history. I am not interested in living by the rules of the book 1984 or the movie Gattica.

There has to be a balance. Just because some people are willing to throw away their freedom and privacy, doesn't mean everyone is.
For an American to willingly give up the freedoms and liberties afforded us by the lives of our forefathers is an insult to their sacrifice and a disgrace to America. Anyone that doesn't believe that should give up their American Citizenship and move to Iran or Red China where you would immediately have what you are advocating, no rights or freedoms. You would fit right in and be rewarded in the manner you are suggesting is ok for this country. I only fear the loss of what America stands for and the freedoms and liberties of our countries future. America was founded BECAUSE of a tyrant, repressive government and the belief of freedom and liberty. It makes me sick that so many, self proclaimed Americans are willing to give up America for a false sense of security. That is your because theory. It may be because you personally never had to pay for what you have, that it means so little to you. All you have to do to give up your freedom and liberties is move out of America. Then you will be free of the American way and you can find something else to fear.

The cctvs will not stop crime or terrorist. It only supports prosecution after the fact. If we stop one terrorist there will be many more. No safety or security in that. So if you stand in front of the surveillance cameras 24/7, you’re no safer than if the camera never existed. May be you are willing to give up your rights, freedoms, life and liberty, but not me. It takes far more than being born on American soil to be an American.

Remember this: The terrorist are willing to die for what they believe, are you? The United States Military has not been able to stop terrorist suicide attacks or IEDs against themselves. So hey may be a camera is just the tool to stop the terrorist and prevent IEDs!  I truly hope you do not believe in your mind, what is coming out of your keyboard.
Funny, all the 'citizen eavesdropping in the name of security' was one of the cardinal sins of the bad old USSR.  I remember people my parents age ranting about how in the Free USA you didn't get spied on by the government.

How funny that the same generation is embracing such surveillance because they are simply put, pathetic, craven cowards.  Way to piss away the rights that my grandfathers died fighting for in WW2.

People who want more surveillance don't deserve the USA.  If you really want surveillance to make a difference, mandate cameras in every room of religious  organizations who enjoy tax-free status.

Then you'll get the religious nutters who are behind all of this terrorism.  From Muslims in bomb-vests to Christians burning down health care clinics, we'll get them all.



If a suicide bomber wants to commit suicide, exactly why is he going to care that he was caught on film?

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin enough said.
The "nothing to hide" argument is reminiscent of the McCarthy era.  Please note that I am not implying anything about Chris' opinions, attitudes or lifestyle.  However, we all have actions and communications that we would not want divulged to various audiences.  They can be completely innocent but are none of the public's business.

The big question is how to balance public and private concerns.  Public behavior in a public place should be fair game for monitoring.  I've been amused by our former governor who shot down the photo-radar technology that takes photos of speeding vehicles and then sends the ticket to the owner as being invasive of the driver's privacy.  Driving a car on a public road is about as non-private as you can get yet he was somehow able to public safety needs after the possibility of the driver being caught drinking coffee while driving <sigh>.
I believe it was George Orwell who wrote 1984, Adulous Huxley wrote a brave new world. Both novels present a disturbing view of the future. Would anything that the FBI or CIA view be seen by a public audience? Just for the record I am a teenager and there are some things about our society that I find very funny. We live in a world where people do the dumbest things they can think of and then upload them on to the web to  be seen by who knows how many random strangers (youtube anyone?) Yet we get afraid of video cameras watching us. It does bother me a little bit, but isn't it necessary to sometimes choose between freedom and security? I know my mom would say that my security trumps my freedom any day. I do agree with bob; there has to be some way to balance this whole security privacy thing out; one doesn't mean much without the other no? :)
For those who claim to have "nothing to hide:" Do you want your local police department to know how many times a week/month/year you make love to your wife? Your mistress? What positions you like? How often you can't perform? How often you drive even 1 MPH over the speed limit?

Terrorism is exactly that - spreading terror, i.e. extreme fear, and convincing people to make their decisions based on those fears. If we act out of fear, whether that act is to not travel someplace or to document absolutely everything citizens do, then we are doing what the terrorists want.

That said...one of the lessons of science fiction is that if a technology *can* be used, it *will* be used, sooner or later. All we can do is learn to cope, keep countersurveillance technologies from being outlawed, etc.

I agree totally with what the older gentleman said about how we viewed the USSR in the 60s and that this is what our soldiers fought to *prevent* in past wars.
CCTV is only a mild deterrent.  However, it can be used to prevent follow-on crimes.  Ideally CCTV footage should be under lock and key until it is used for crime prevention or investigation.  Given that computers can do this automatically, we need people in the loop.  Punishment for misuse of footage should be severe.  CCTV should not be able to look into a private home without a warrant.  

Other than that, if you're out in public, to include in your car (which you must have a license to drive), don't expect to be in private.  Having said that, CCTV operators shouldn't be using cameras to be a peeping Tom on some amorous couple in the back of their car.

As for "NOBODY should EVER have the right to photograph, videotape or record me or my actions for ANY reason."  That is completely absurd.  
If I'm taking pictures of someone in front of a public object and you happen to be in the background, I'm NOT going to care if you don't want your picture taken.  If you don't want your picture taken, then stay home.

It is also absurd that companies are trying to enforce privacy laws against people taking pictures of their buildings or even sculptures that are visible from a public vantage point.  

They also try to prevent people taking pictures of and from private property that is open to the public (squares in front of buildings).   If you want it private then fence it off from view/acess.

Otherwise, corporations have zero right to privacy, except for proprietary info and any info related to individuals that would normally be protected by other privacy laws.

Let's get real people, your absolute right to privacy ends when you leave your house.  It's very limited in your car.  It's also limited on your person, though law enforcement better have a good reason to conduct a search of your car or person.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin enough said.
Zack - You stole the words out of my mouth.
Zack, please define "essential liberty".  Quoting some dead guy is not a good argument.  Anyway, Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be the national bird.

The balance comes in the form of strict laws on the misuse of private information (or CCTV footage/phone calls/etc.).  If the government abuses it (or lets companies sell it), then let's throw the book at them. If the information they gather is used for legitimate law enforcement, then go for it.  Routine footage should be under lock and key until needed.  Let the computer do the 'pre-crime' analysis.  Man in the loop for critical infrastructure and events.
Even though George Orwell's Big brother of his novel
1984 articulated everything that is reprehensible about state-controlled voyeurism, the post 9/11 world forces us to revisit the question.The state which is responsible for the welfare and secuity of its citizenry must use every available tool,including CCTV to give it the edge in its war against terrorism.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for freedom deserve neither."  - Benjamin Franklin

Yup, that sums it up for me.
As a non-american, I may have a different perspective than most of the people who have already posted, but I definitely agree with people like John Wayne, Joseph Nash, Zack and Bob. The argument to relinquish your personal privacy in favor of safety is tacitly admitting defeat. There has to be a balance to not endowing too few people with too much power (watch the movie "The Good Shepherd" with Robert Deniro). The fact that president Bush has just saved Scooter Libby from serving time in prison bluntly proves this point.

Then again, as is often showed when interacting in the internet communities, anonimity is what motivates some people to misbehavior...

The queston is this: In that first photo at the Central Communications Command Center
for London's Metropolitan Police, is there actually a camera surveilling the people who are surveilling the rest of the citizens? Who gets to police the police? the citizens? how?
I admit it is very creepy to think that a person in London might be videotaped 300 times on any given day. But are any of them complaining about it or filing lawsuits based off right to privacy arguments?
I'll support your right to own guns if you'll support my right to privacy.  Seems like a fair trade that everyone can live with.
Government needs to stay on a short lead.  People abuse power.  (Perhaps not everyone in power, but it is only a matter of time before surveillance that can be abused is abused.)  If government has a legitimate need for the surveillance, there should be a digital lock that requires "keys" from independent agencies in order to make any identification.  This should not be something with the ability to track down and harass those who would criticize the Prime Minister.  That is why privacy is so important.  That is also why the Soviet Union cracked down on it.  Eventually, independent thought in a police state is "something to hide."  In fact, whenever I hear "if you have nothing to hide," I wonder if the person desires a totalitarian regime or is only oblivious to the fact that these tools -- left unchecked -- inexorably lead to one.
You guys are freaking out about CCTV in public places like it's the end of free society and the beginning of a Big Brother era or something...

When was the last time you went to the bank?  Or through a fast-food drivethru?  There are already CCTV cameras in any number of public places, and while the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld personal privacy, it has also ruled that there is "no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place."

I'm not saying it's some kind of magic bullet in this so-called "war on terror," but it is neither unreasonable nor illegal - by any stretch of the Constitution - to take surveillance footage of public places, and it's not giving up any kind of personal liberty.  That's just paranoia talking.
The world is becoming a police state. We will all be slaves. Http://infowars.com
My 9th great grandfather came to America in the 1600s to get away from English law at that time.  Looks like the British are still at it.
Recently, they took away all the firearms so no one could defend themselves, then they put up cameras to catch the firearm wielding crooks that are preying upon unarmed citizens.  Now they want to make a movie of everyone's lives so they can catch someone after the fact.  
They should just put a chip in everyone's head that will explode when the poor slobs do something that someone doesn't like.  

Sounds like a Sci Fi movie starring Arnold.
I believe that even though this may be a good idea, I can see that many innocent people could get caught up in the grand sweep of things.  To bad all of humanity doesn't follow the councils of the Holy Bible truly; then we wouldn't need such excessive measures to ensure the safety of all mankind.
Actually, most of these systems have been in use for almost a decade in casinos to track known card counters. It's a multi hundred million dollar business.
""Those who sacrifice liberty for freedom deserve neither."  - Benjamin Franklin"

Fair enough, but is privacy (especially the so-called privacy one has in an already PUBLIC place) a liberty?  Like it or not, the word "privacy" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution.  It might be an implicit right, but it is not, under our current laws, an explicit right.

My objection to these cameras doesn't even reach the philosophical levels of Franklin anyway - I object on pragmatic grounds.  If we were sacrificing privacy for safety, that would be one thing (which might still be objectionable anyway) but in the case of cameras, we are sacrificing privacy for the mere illusion of safety.  In reality, a suicide bomber will not care if he is caught on film; he intends to die so what's the difference?



Ben Franklin was a smart guy, but he doesn't decide who "deserves" security or liberty.  There is are no "just desserts."

Humans need to get rid of the mystical basis of their ethics.  We should always bear in mind "the law of unintended consequences," which is not a scientific law, but is close to the concept of "emergence."

From very simple rules emerge complex behaviors that one could not have predicted and, in many cases, are counter-intuitive to rules.

If my neighborhood were much worse, I'd put in a CCTV myself, for the same reason I turn my lights on at night, because if I have any hope at all of sending my kids to college, I can't spend every dollar I make on replacing or fixing what gets vandalized.

If that makes me a coward in the eyes of some pseudo-intellectuals, then that's a few more opinions that are essentially white noise that I can safely ignore.

That said, while privacy is not enumerated in the constitution, Amendment IX says that just because certain rights aren't listed doesn't mean we don't have them or that they're not very important.  Once we have such a thing in place - and we already do in some places, we need to have very strict rules about how this information is used, with training for those who use it and very strict penalties for those who willfully abuse the information under their stewardship.

The issues are very complicated, probably much more complicated than what any but a few individuals have so far successfully wrapped their heads around.  We need intensive conversation about this now.  Frankly, I'll be filtering out the shrill denunciations.  What I'd like to know is "who has any statistics we can rely upon?" and "who has done the clearest thinking in this complicated web of issues?"
The use of technology to fight terrorism is certainly a helpful strategy, but caution must be noted in implementation. It's hard enough for me to think I can look on Google Earth to see if my minivan is at home, but what would people do if they were aware a video camera was on every street corner? In addition to the enormous expenses involved in running such an operation, government must take care to consider personal privacy rights. Balancing these two areas of law will continue to be an ongoing dialogue and challenge in the fight against terror.
I Hate cameras watching me because I always think of the person/people watching the monitor will judge me negatively before I act, Which doesn't make me feel free. 7/11, OK, But just how far does it go? Maybe I took to much stuff.


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