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Supernova nightmares

Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:58 PM by Alan Boyle

Some astronomers would be delighted if a super-bright supernova blast like the one reported this week were to occur in our own galaxy. One says it could be "the best star-show in the history of modern civilization." But if the blast was pointed right at us from close quarters? Well, that would be bad.

How so? And how bad? For the answers to those questions, you can turn to some cool Web sites, a few good books ... and a couple of bad movies.

When astronomers reported that a new breed of supernova had been detected millions of light-years away, they also noted that the star involved in that explosion appeared to be similar to Eta Carinae one of the biggest and intrinsically brightest stars in our own Milky Way galaxy. Eta Carinae is a mere 7,500 light-years from Earth - and although astronomer Mario Livio said he didn't think the star posed any danger, MSNBC.com users naturally wanted more detail:

Harald Jensen, Guatemala City, Guatemala: "Would you please be so kind as to enlighten us with the calculations for if and when Eta Carinae explodes? I would like to know how much time we would have to 'run away' from the shock wave caused by such an explosion? Naturally, I’m not worried about running away, but I know that interstellar sightings are not as easy as 1, 2, 3. Can you explain (in kindergarten terms please), depending on what kind of telescope first saw the explosion, how fast the shock wave would expand, and therefore, when would we feel it at home, here on Earth? Or is it as easy as 7,500 years (and that is the answer), with the shock wave traveling at the speed of light, and it would not make much of a difference when we saw it?"

Mack: "If Eta Carinae went supernova, how long would it take for the effects to be seen and/or felt on Earth, specifically any gamma ray effects? Or, put another way, if it goes supernova, how long would it take the gamma rays to travel the 7,500 light years to Earth if the energetic jets emanating from the star were pointing our way?"

Kenneth: "Let's see if I understand this. Dear Eta is 7,500 light years away, so what we are observing occurred 7,500 years ago. So [Livio's observation that a supernova] "could happen tomorrow or it could happen 1,000 years from now" is in need of editorializing. What is technically more accurate, is that Eta may blow or has probably already blown its top. But it's so far away that the light and other energy particles of that event have not yet reached us. We wish that we might live to experience it in the next 7,499 years. I'd like to 'see' it. The riddle that may be answered in this unfolding epoch, is why, thankfully, the magnificent supernovae exist in light-wave form. And the distance being so far, and the size so massive, that it would appear to be of original ejecta from the first big bang. Is it such that the beginning of time is coming to an end? Godspeed, earthlings."

Harry and Leslie: "Could any supernova that occurs in space ever reach Earth, and what could the effects of such an event be on planet Earth?"

The questions about timing are easy to answer: When Livio was talking about "tomorrow," he meant that the effects of such a supernova could be observed in the sky starting tomorrow - which of course means that the event itself would have occurred 7,500 years ago back at Eta Carinae. That's a long time ago, and the supernova that was first observed last September in the constellation Perseus took place much, much longer ago - about 240 million years ago.

However, you couldn't say that represented the "original ejecta of the big bang." The big bang is thought to have occurred around 13.7 billion years ago - and that involved the explosive inflation of the space-time continuum itself, rather than an explosion in the supernova sense.

Mack correctly put his finger on the supernova's gamma-ray burst as the main thing to worry about. That would be the likeliest cause of a supernova nightmare, and there wouldn't be much we could do about it. That is, unless astronomers learn enough about stellar evolution to predict when a dangerously close star could blow up in spectacular fashion - giving us enough time to build, say, underground cities.


NASA
An artist's conception shows a gamma-
ray burst sweeping over Earth's
atmosphere, depleting ozone and
creating smog in the process. In reality,
the gamma radiation would be invisible.

A couple of years ago, astronomers took a close look at the potential effects of a nearby gamma-ray burst directed at Earth. The results weren't pretty. Research published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters proposed that a burst lasting just 10 seconds could have caused the Ordovician mass extinction, 440 million years ago.

As the invisible gamma radiation swept over Earth, it could have depleted half of our planet's protective ozone layer, leaving the surface vulnerable to the sun's deadly ultraviolet rays for five years or so. That could have killed off much of the life on land as well as plankton and other organisms near the ocean surface, disrupting the marine food chain in the process. Such a scenario matches up with what seems to have happened during the Ordovician extinction.

This NASA feature provides a summary of the research, as well as one animation that shows what a killer gamma-ray burst might look like from an earthly vantage point, and another animation that shows which areas of Earth would be affected the most.

The Ordovician extinction may have had different causes, of course. Some have pointed to climate change as the killing blow - an unusual kind of "icehouse effect."  But even then, there could be a link between a gamma-ray burst, ozone depletion and global cooling.

Phil Plait, who is a gamma-ray astronomer as well as the author of "Bad Astronomy" and an upcoming book tentatively titled "Death From the Skies," shed more light on the subject in an e-mail:

"I'm researching this for my next book. There are two bad things that happen if you get enough gamma rays smacking into you:

"1) They dissociate ozone molecules. Bad. Worse, they also zap nitrogen molecules, which then go out and zap ozone molecules. Either way, a lot of ozone goes away. It depends on how close the supernova or gamma-ray burst is, of course, but some studies have shown that a gamma-ray burst ... could eradicate 30 percent of ozone globally, with some local places dropping by more than 50 percent. In technical terms, that would suck.

"2) Those nitrogen atoms go on and make NO2 molecules, which is a reddish brown toxic substance. Not enough would be made, most likely, to hurt folks, but it's dark and absorbs sunlight, so they can contribute to global cooling. The Ordovician event may have been from a nearby supernova or gamma-ray burst, as there is evidence of increased UVB [ultraviolet light B] hitting phytoplanktons and also cooling at the same time.

"There is a third thing: cosmic rays, atomic nuclei accelerated to relativistic speeds, may also be sent our way by supernovae or gamma-ray bursts. No one is really sure. But there is a lot of evidence (and this shocked me) that the cosmic rays affect our weather by seeding clouds (I am unclear how this works in detail but I'll know better as I read more). More clouds means more cooling, so more cosmic rays could trip an ice age. Seriously.

"All of this depends on how close a supernova gets, and there is evidence that in the past few million years a few have exploded within a few dozen parsecs. Fe60 is a radioactive isotope of iron, and is created in supernova explosions. An excess of Fe60 has been found in ocean floor samples dated to a few million years ago. Cool, huh?

"The big SN 2006gy was 240 million light years away, so it won't hurt us. But Eta Carinae is only 7,500 light years away..."

Fortunately, as Livio pointed out during this week's news conference, the poles of Eta Carinae's hourglass-shaped structure appear to be pointed away from Earth. That has led astronomers to assume that the highly focused flash of a gamma-ray burst would also miss our planet.

"Right now, there are no supernovas close enough to hurt us," Plait told me in a follow-up phone call. "There are no gamma-ray sources close enough to hurt us. We think."

One possible cause of gamma-ray bursts is the merger of two dense celestial objects - say, neutron stars or black holes. And we might never see that coming.

If all that's not enough to throw a scare into you, there's a large pile of movies and books that address the supernova nightmare scenario. On the Astronomical Society of the Pacific's Web site, Foothill College astronomer Andrew Fraknoi lists seven supernova-themed tales that reflect "good astronomy and physics." Two are particularly worthy of note:

  • "Supernova" by Roger Allen and Eric Kotani. Plait says Kotani is the pen name of a well-known astrophysicist - and although the premise of the book is purely fictional, there's some good science backing up the story.
  • "The Twilight of Briareus" by Richard Cowper. This tale, which delves into supernova-caused climate change as well as some weirder fictional effects, comes with a strong recommendation from Paul Gilster, the blogger behind Centauri Dreams. "This guy could flat-out write," Gilster said.

Both books appear to be out of print - but used copies are available online, and you might find them as well at your local library or used-book shop. That qualifies the two books as a dual selection for the Cosmic Log Used Book Club, which highlights books with cosmic themes that aren't necessarily brand-new.

Unfortunately, supernova stories on the silver screen haven't fared as well. There was a "Supernova" movie starring James Spader and Angela Bassett, as well as a "Supernova" made-for-TV movie with Tia Carrere and Luke Perry - but neither made much of a scientific or a critical splash.

In the semi-documentary category, the Sci-Fi Channel's "Countdown to Doomsday" addressed the gamma-ray threat, with an assist from Plait. Gamma-ray flares also play a role in the "Nova" documentary "Monster of the Milky Way," but that show (which you can watch online) has more to do with black holes than supernovae.

So I'll have to turn to you for guidance: If you have any recommendations for gripping supernova tales, or even deliciously bad movies about supernova nightmares, by all means pass them along in the comments section below.

Update for 10 p.m. ET May 17: I added a reference to Fraknoi as the author of the excellent book recommendation list on the ASP Web site, in the interest of giving credit where credit is due.

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I remember when CBS resurrected THE TWILIGHT ZONE in the 80s they ran an episode in their first season called THE STAR. They found a burnt out husk of a planet in what remained of a solar system after a sun when nova. The people of the system knew the nova was coming and created an underground storage facility to preserve the creations of their civilization. Their art, their music, their culture, their writings and so on. Turns out that when their sun went nova, it was the light that guided the the three wise men to Bethlehem for the birth of Jesus. I'm not terribly religious, but it was a very moving story and well done.
Are we to assume that there is no defense to these events? Besides intergalactic migration?
It seems to me we should be more concerned with the a major flaring happening on the sun that could be so strong as to cause us direct harm. I don't lose sleep over supernovas happening next door in our galaxy.
We still have not answered the basic question here:

What is the closest safe distance, in light years, for a supernova, of each type, to go off and be spectacular yet not damaging?

10 ly, 50 ly, 100 ly, 1000 ly ? There has to be some science available from the astrophysics community to give us a good approximation of this distance.

Thank you
Regarding your request for a recommendation for supernova tales, there is one I remember from an Outer Limits episode called Inconstant Moon, which iteself is based on a short story of the same name by Larry Niven.

Here is the story from wikipedia:

The unnamed narrator notices that the moon is glowing much brighter than ever before. The people he meets as the story begins all praise the moon's increased beauty but lack the scientific background to understand its cause. However the narrator surmises that the Sun has gone nova, the day side of the Earth is already destroyed, and this is the last night of his life. He then calls and visits his girlfriend Leslie, presuming her ignorant of the situation, but she realizes it independently when Jupiter brightens with appropriate delay; they then enjoy their last night on the town, before rain and winds start.

Later, he realizes one other possibility. In case he is right, they find appropriate supplies and seek refuge from the coming natural disasters in Leslie's high-rise apartment. The second possibility turns out to be correct: the Earth has merely been struck by an enormous solar flare. The vaporized seawater leads to torrential rains, hurricanes and floods. Most (if not all) people on the Eastern Hemisphere are presumed dead. The story ends at the break of an overcast, gray morning, with the narrator "wonder[ing] if our children would colonize Europe, or Asia, or Africa".

So not a true supernova tale, maybe a 50% supernova tale.
So, let me get this straight. I understand that visually witnessing the Supernova is in direct correlation to it's distance from the Earth in Light years. So, would the gamma rays travel at the same speed, faster or slower?
Isn't the Puppeteer race from the Ringworld series of books fleeing a supernova spawned gamma-ray burst?  Their solution, if I recall, is to move all of their planets out of the way.  Couldn't we just do that ourselves.
I think it is foolish to not have earth detection systems for large meteors, black holes or other objects that could lead to global extinction. We should grow up as a species.

Brandon, the research in ApJ Letters looked at a hypothetical gamma-ray burst 2 kiloparsecs from Earth, or about 6,500 light-years. So I suppose you'd be looking out at least 10,000 light-years when considering the risk. Of course, the gamma-ray burst would have to be pointing right at us ... because astronomers believe the jets of a gamma-ray burst are highly focused, or "collimated." Eta Carinae's polar orientation is not in line with Earth; that's why we can see the "hourglass" shape of the star's debris clouds. Thus, astronomers think Eta Car would not pose a threat even if it went supernova. It would be somewhat spectacular but not dangerous (a tenth the brightness of the full moon, concentrated in a single point ... visible during the day ... a dim light for reading at night).

To get to the doomsday scenario, we'd have to be on the receiving end of exceedingly bad luck ... basically a cosmic sniper shot from quadrillions of miles away.

It seems to me that we may pretty much be doomed already. If it is possible for a supernova to explode and send radiation and large chunks of mass hurtling out in all directions, then isnt it possible that some of those are already heading towards the Earth? Looks like we may need to seriously need to expand our space research and exploration programs so that we can be completly prepared for "curve balls" that may be thrown our way. Common sense is mankinds greatest strength so we should start using more of it. We always get warnings and they point to some looming disaster and yet we do nothing to stop or prevent these deisasters. Looks like we are getting a little full of ourselves, maybe?
1) "The Star" is a short story by Arthur C Clarke, upon which the Twilight Zone episode is based.

2) The last I read indicated the Puppeteers were fleeing a black hole at the center of the galaxy, which was a novel idea at the time Larry Niven employed it.

3) Gamma rays, X-Rays, Ultraviolet rays, Visible Light rays, Infrared rays, microwaves, and Radio waves ALL travel at the speed of light.  Cosmic rays are a little bit slower.
Most of the material I have read suggests that a Type 2 Supernova (that is the supernova of a large star resulting from the collapse of its core when it exhausts its fuel) would probably not affect the earth if it occured at a distance greater than 100 light-years.  A type 2 supernova occuring at a distance of 26-light years has the potential to destroy half of the earth's ozone.  Since there are few large stars of this type close to earth, the odds of a type 2 impacting the biosphere is extremely small.

Eta Carinae is a super-giant star and is therefore expected to explode as a type 2 supernova.  It is 7,500 light-years from Earth.

A type 1a supernova (a supernova involving a white dwarf star in a bionary star system) would be much harder to predict because the star's involved are much smaller and dimmer.  A type 1a supernova can expel 5-to-10 times the amount of stellar mass as a type 2 and therefore can be more dangerous.  One article I read suggested that a type 1a supernova could affect the Earth's biosphere if it occured within a 1000-light-year distance from earth.  It did not elaborate to what degree the earth would be affected at that distance or how it came to its conclusion.

The closest known candidate for a type 1a supernova is IK Pegasi.  It is 150-light-years from earth.
I have to admit, when I first heard the story it gave me a chill. Actually, the new theory regarding life cycles on Earth and the solar system bouncing up and down in the disc of the Milky Way was the first one to freak me out. It's a reminder of how little we really know about our Universe and how little control we have over our tiny little lives. Makes you get philosophical. Maybe the lowly cockroach has something to teach us about survival.
Hi Alan, I think it’s well worth a look at but, to me, all this gamma ray death stuff really does put the “doom” into doomsayers and it’s that kind of hype that causes people to avoid far more likely and realistic doomsday scenarios.  I’m very skeptical that a star can cause such bursts by itself and you probably really would need a neutron star collision to get it.  I’m also a bit leery of the evidence behind this SUPER supernova.  From what I gathered from the article it didn’t appear to be anything unusual but there was something different about its spectrogram that made them “infer” that it was so large.  Isn’t Chandra having problems with its spectrograph (a thin coat of oil covering its optics?)?  Can fusion even hold up a star so massive?  

PS. Hey I noticed a new theory for dark matter emerging within the galaxy not within a halo! I’m still betting on Iron worlds and would love to know if that nova simulation last month showed any signs of throwing off vast chunks of Iron over 100 Jovian masses.
Gary-O,
Yes, the Puppeteer race were flee the supernovas (they are extreme paranoids) that would eventually take place at the center of our galaxy (forward thinking paranoids) by moving their planets out of the galaxy at less than relativistic speeds (patient paranoids)  Thats why Ringworld caught their 'eye', because the incredibly dense ring material, oriented toward the galactic plane, would make a suitable hiding place.  Provided it were unpopulated of course.
You guys are nerds. I love it.
I would like to insist! How would the calculations be, on that gamma ray burst. How fast do they travel, when should we start the countdown? I don't understand the light year calculations of an interstellar occurance. Could you explain? Does it matter, how powerfull the telescope is?
We have a lot of fixable problems here on the planet w/o looking at problems like gamma ray bursts, meteors, and cosmic junk that we would be able to do little or nothing about.
Book: "Iron Sunrise," by Charles Stross.  It isn't about a supernova per se, but about the effect of one that has been deliberately set off to murder a planet.  More precisely, it's about the search for the murderers and the consequences of that search.

"Iron sunrise."  A wonderful description of what a supernova *is.*
I wish I could remember what it was called, and which collection it was in, but Isaac Asimov once did an essay on this matter. And if I remember correctly, his conclusion was that we'd be in trouble if there was a supernova within 20-odd light years. (note that we don't have to be outright toasted, just pumping enough additional energy into our environment could have major climate altering effects...)

On the other hand, none of the stars within that radius seem to pose such a threat for several billion years.
Wow...all these people panicking over nothing.  An Earth full of people must exist for Christ to return and rule it for 1,000 years.  Think of the Bible as a history book written way ahead of time.  And for all you atheists out there, the Bible had accurately predicted the Persian Gulf war, including the length of time down to the exact day.  Read up on the seven seals in Revelations if you don't believe me.
The comments left here are obviously those of intellectuals. Whether you are hit by a car or a super nova the results are the same...you only die once. So don't worry about it and enjoy the 7499 years that our screwed up civilization may have left.
Even if we were to migrate - eventually the human race is done in. Why go to the expense and worry of trying to delay the inevitable?
The main reason that a farther-away supernova poses less risk to Earth is that radiated energy is inversely proportional to the SQUARE of the distance from the radiating object. So, assuming two identical stars go supernova, if one is 500 ly from Earth and the other is 1000 ly from Earth, the energy we'd receive from the 1000 ly supernova would be one QUARTER as much as from the 500 ly supernova ( 1/2 ^ 2 ).

A scarier scenario than a supernova would be a collision of two or more neutron stars somewhere in the galaxy. If multiple neutron stars collided, the resulting gamma ray burst would spread through the entire galaxy at the speed of light in EVERY direction and would, over the course of 100,000 years or so, cause a galaxywide extinction event from which it would be impossible to hide. And no, we would have NO warning at all that it was about to hit us. (See Stephen Baxter's "Manifold: Space" for an explanation of this "galactic reset" scenario.)
Gamma rays are a form of electromagnetic radiation, and all forms of electromagnetic radiation (this includes radio waves, x-rays, and infrared, visible, and ultraviolet light) travel at the speed of light.  When you see a supernova thats x number of lightyears away, that event happend x number of years ago, and the light took x number of years to get to earth.  So you are really looking into the past. The size of the telescope just lets you see dimmer objects, which may be farther away, and therefore older.

As to whether or not we are in danger of a supernova affecting life on earth, I would think that most of the stars in the galaxy are orientated so their poles are more or less perpendicular to the galactic plane.  Or, at the very least, not pointed at earth.  So the chances of a star going supernova close enough to the earth to cause significant damage being orientated in the right way is probably very small.
Solar flares and CMEs are pretty interesting for the same reason. As high and mighty as some people think they are, any evidence that they, or anything else on this planet, ever existed could be wiped clean with a mere few millisecond flick of our own sun, let alone that of the universe in general. With 9 minutes of light time between here and the sun, we'd never see it coming and wouldn't know what hit us. Click, lights out! Theory points toward the sun eventually expanding beyond the orbit of the earth which will turn this place into ash so one way or another, man's final legacy may be dead probes sitting on Mars and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
I really agree with Mike from Iowa. So if we see the Supernova with our own two eyes, aren't we pretty much done for?
One might infer that if we do establish off-world colonies for the protection of our race that they at least should be protected from such events - perhaps buried under the surface of Mars or within an asteroid somehow.
The very nature of not knowing what will happen tomorrow is what life is all about. This is why the earliest of mankind formed an opinion that there must be something to protect us from the scary things and that when we die, we go to a place where nothing will hurt us ever again.
as ETa carnae is a type 2 supernova existing 7500  light years  away the possibility of  disastarous   consequences on eath is rather less  unless the   cosmic/gamma rays are pointed   directly to earth.

Avoiding such   cosmic catastrophies is not at all  practical . Imagine the scenario of complete  disintegration of galastic core where the whole   galaxy with its multiplicities of civilisations  any (considering frank darks equation  ) this   with  cease to exist.      
Mark...yes, as per my post 3rd from the top. But then Hendrix called it "3rd stone from the Sun".

I have always wondered if the sun is capable of involking mass extinctions. A nuclear blast so impossible as to send the earth's magnetic field into insanity.
All this doomsday stuff is making me nervous, I think I'll have another cigarette.
It si silly that folks suggest we have an "early warning system", i.e., "Looks like we may need to seriously need to expand our space research and exploration programs so that we can be completely prepared for "curve balls" that may be thrown our way. Common sense is mankind's greatest strength so we should start using more of it. We always get warnings and they point to some looming disaster and yet we do nothing to stop or prevent these disasters."

Any signal sent back to earth to tell us that gamma rays or cosmic rays were now headed in our direction, would not travel to us faster than the rays we want to learn about.  Duh.
I think you all need to get a grip. Who really cares? If it happens there is absolutely NOTHING we humans can do to stop it. The idea of needing a "warning system" is silly as when we see it, its here. Concentrate on enjoying life and your loved ones as if gamma rays, huge chunks of space debris, or a looming black hole suddenly pop up in earths path, we don't have a thing to say or do about it. Frankly its about time for mother earth to get a good housecleaning and then have a few hundred million years to recover from all the harm we have done her. Perhaps the next thing to crawl out of the sea and evolve will be smarter than us...
It is interesting, but at the risk of belaboring the obvious...the greatest risks humanity faces come frome humanity itself.
It's true that an early warning system can't alert you to incoming radiation any faster than it actually gets here... But it could certainly let you see changes in the behavior of stars that suggest they are about to go nova -- and that is what we'd be looking for.

It's also true that collisions between black holes and/or neutron stars have been considered as possible sources for gamma-ray-bursts.  I don't know whether the radiation released by such events would be collimated or not; but if it isn't, and the radiation is uniformly distributed in all directions, that would make its intensity far less than the "beams" seen at the poles of a supernova.  As far as detection goes, circling ultradense objects are the most likely ones to emit gravitational waves, and those would be produced well in advance of the collision as their orbits decay.  Assuming we were close enough to detect those waves (and be threatened by the subsequent collision), the rate of change of their frequency would provide an excellent timeline for that collision, and might even enable us to determine their orientation relative to the earth.

I've seen many comments from people who are utterly defeatist about such calamities -- and understandably so, given their cosmic scale.  But such people might be interested in the story of another individual who, facing a catastrophe of global proportions, is said to have built an ark that saved our species -- and all of the others on our planet, besides.  In that story, the naysayers didn't fare so well...
I don't think we need to worry about old Sol suddenly blowing his top and blasting all our constituent atoms into the void.  Science, on which we all rely, says Sol is a stable, second-generation type of star, going about its business of converting hydrogen to helium and emitting the resultant energy into space.  Earth is within the 'habitable zone' of Sol, so we evolved and exist here, the rest of the planets being - as the old song says - either too hot or too cold.  

Yes,  if Sol went nova right now, I could finish this letter before the wavefront could reach us in about nine minutes and make my efforts useless.  But science says that is the most unlikely thing to occur, in spite of intermittent minor changes within the body and surface of Sol.  Then again, science also says that anything can happen.  But I'd rather take my chances with Sol than with Global Warming which science says is real and more imminent and more easily seen, for sure.
What a wonderful conversation...hee hee hee... Like we humans have the capacity to get beyond the petty religious wars and wasteful use of resources for the benefit of a fraction of our populations.. Let alone devising methods for preventing mass extinctions on our planet from gamma ray bursts. ha ha ha...
Wayne, what if we believe in some other religion, with a different prophesy? (assuming we must believe in one at all) Can they all be right? Could it be that none of them are right? By what indepenent measn would you know, other than wait-and-see? (And all of that quite apart from wether a deity[ies] exists or not) This is the biggest reason I'm an agnostic.

And more to the point, it's the biggest reason you can't base public policy on such things.

None of us can know if/when divine intervention will occur, or the nature of it, if it does. Therefore, it's safer to not make it part of public policy, and stick with those things we can make logical arguments for (or against) and stand some chance of proving, or, more importantly, disproving.

Religious faith can be good, but it doesn't lend itself to the latter.
live,love,laugh...duck when needed.the rest is hubris
Des Emery..the sun will never go nova. It's is of insufficient mass. It will swell to a red giant almost to the orbit of Mars in about 4 billion years.

Then collapse to a white dwarf sheding mass and creating a planetary nebula much like this perhaps.

http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/
images/screenshots/extrasolar/M_57_
NGC6720_RingNebula__AstroBoy.jpg
good call, mark from illinois. good call. i was wondering about the same thing when i read the comment. when it comes down to it, i would imagine that there is larger likelyhood that our sun will expand to where we will be out of the climate "green zone" where it's not too hot and not too cold. then stuff will really start to turn sour. as far as preventative measures to be taken as a species.... well thats kind of out of the question. if you are familiar with astrophsyics on even a highschool level, you should understand that mankind is pretty much stuck in our own solar system, or that of a VERY close by one- due to einstein's theory of relativity and special theory. we can't move that fast. period. and so far as of yet, i haven't heard of any new planets being found even close to ours. so basically, we're screwed if it comes down to it.
supernova movie? try arnofsky's "the fountain" on DVD may 15th i think. maybe not so scientific, but it's pretty deep if you're into watching movies after a puffing the magic dragon
"Aftermath" by Charles Sheffield is a very good science fiction book whose premise is that a nova happens in Alpha Centuri. There is also a second book in the series, but I am unsure of the title.
Has anybody ever found the center of the 'Big Bang" that started our universe yet? Is there really Infinite Parallel Universes? If so, does that mean there were Infinite Parallel Big Bangs that started them all?
What has been discussed is a mass extinction event such as the Ordovician extinction. What has not been addressed is a significant partial gamma radiation event. Such an event may not obliterate the ozone layer but significantly reduce it. It has been well established that evolution is nonlinear and occurs with bursts of new species. Two major ingredients for rapid evolutionary change could be increased gamma radiation to cause massive mutation combined with climatic change causing a change in the environment of those species. These gamma burst events may be one such mechanism to fuel evolutionary change. Is there a mechanism by which the past occurrences of these events have been recorded? The Iridium layer was the signature of massive cosmic impacts. Is there any similar signature of gamma radiation events which could then be correlated against the fossil record? A universal truth is that which causes the greatest destruction can, at times, also cause the greatest creation.
i greatly enjoyed this article, and ALL the comments made.Perhaps our society would be far better if we communicated on more of the world's problems, even suspected ones, with this kind of acceptance and mutual respect for each other's opinions and thoughts. along with some humor too, of course.
How about we find a solution to IEDs which are killing our children now and worry about Universal Wrath when we actually have a clue about that currently non existant technology.
Of Course, Eta Carinae has most likely gone and blown her top already, with 7,500 years lag time for us to observe this fact we may see it tomorrow or mayhaps not until a long time down the generations from us. Just a Cheery Note!!
As usual Plaitt treats us to more of his retarded nonsense. His site "bad astronomy" couldn't be more appropriately named. He is a textbook example of a poor researcher. His continual appeals to authority to back up his ludicrous claims regarding cogent and well-supported hypotheses are comical and his site is clearly just a revenue-generating blog.


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