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Engineers getting a makeover

Posted: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:25 PM by Alan Boyle

The nation's best and brightest engineers are gathering in Washington this week to figure out how to add some youthful zing to a profession that makes many kids think of slide rules and pocket protectors. As a result of their efforts, engineering's image will be getting a marketing makeover in the months ahead.

How much is that makeover needed? You'd expect engineers to come up with the data to back up their case, and these folks did not disappoint. In one survey of career preferences among 440 college-bound students aged 14 to 18, engineering was ranked last on a list that also included teaching, medicine, law and business. And in a 2006 Harris Poll on occupational prestige, the profession came in No. 10 out of 22 - well behind doctors and scientists (but well ahead of lawyers and, ick, journalists).

One big problem is that engineers are perceived as being - how shall I put this? - too geeky. Kids just don't see engineering as a thrilling profession where you interact with people, help others and do important things. "Many of the kids feel that we are 'desk jockeys,'" said Patrick Natale, executive director of the American Society of Civil Engineers.

To be sure, lots of engineers do slave all day over a hot desktop. But F. Suzanne Jenniches, vice president and general manager of Northrup Grumman's government systems division, argued that the work of an engineer is as important as a doctor's.

"The operating rooms where people's lives are saved are the result of engineering," she said. In fact, engineers played a part in developing every material we touch in daily life, she added.

So what is to be done? At this week's convocation of professional engineering societies, taking place at the National Academy of Engineering, several data-driven projects came to light.

One market research project, funded by the National Science Foundation and carried out by an NAE committee, tested a variety of slogans with focus groups. Among the favorites: "Engineers make a world of difference" ... "Turning ideas into reality" ... "Because dreams need doing."

Keep your eyes out for the bumper stickers. The NAE estimates that a focused marketing campaign should cost about $12 million to $25 million annually for the next two to three years. That may sound like a lot, but the engineering profession is thought to spend about $400 million a year on outreach right now, with little to show for it.

"It's like Brownian motion," said the academy's president, Wm. A. Wulf. "Everybody is going in different directions, and it seems that the net vector is zero." A more focused marketing campaign - encompassing all the sectors of the profession - should make all that outreach more efficient.

Another effort, called the Extraordinary Women Engineers Project, targets girls in middle school and high school. In recent years, female representation in the field has been something of a disappointment: Women enrollment in college engineering programs peaked at about 20 percent in 1999 and has dipped since then.

The academy has set up an "Engineer Girl" Web site to address that interest gap on the middle-school level, and in September a new "Design Your Life" site for high-school girls will be unveiled, Jenniches said. For updates on that front, keep your eye on the Engineers Week Web site. The "Try Engineering" Web site is another resource for kids, parents and teachers.

The Business Roundtable has been looking into yet another engineering-awareness campaign, modeled after the "Intel Inside" campaign for computers. Susan Traiman, director of public policy at the Business Roundtable, said the idea is to add something like a "Powered by Brainwave" tag to products ranging from sneakers to computers, to show that engineers are providing the brain power behind those products.

Quoting a market-tested tagline from the campaign, Traiman said, "Math and science powers virtually everything meaningful in your life."

Purdue University's Leah Jamieson, president of the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers, said the outreach should extend beyond just building another Web site. "How many of us are putting stuff on YouTube?" she asked her colleagues. "Are we doing podcasts?"

Then there's the academic part of the equation: Engineers themselves tend to add to the perception that their work is too hard for mere mortals - and that's a turnoff for the kids. "We can unprogram [the claim that] 'it's hard, but if you work really hard, you might become an engineer' into something more appealing," Jenniches said.

Of course, sometimes the classes really are hard - maybe too hard. The professional engineers said professors may have to dial it down a notch, particularly in the freshman year, in order to promote retention of engineering students.

"It's that freshman calculus course that's weeding the kids out," Traiman said.

"The electromagnetic physics course is a tough weeder-outer," Natale added.

In addition to cool slogans and kinder, gentler courses, the profession could benefit by having more role models for the kids. "There is no 'public face' of engineering," Natale said.

Greg Pearson, senior program officer for the NAE, said there should be a diverse set of role models - to show that women and minorities as well as white guys can excel in engineering. "It's going to be public faces," he said, emphasizing the plural.

Personally, the most public faces that come to my mind are those of Dilbert and his co-workers - and although they're great for a laugh, I'm not sure they're in the same league as the TV stars you see on "Law and Order" and "E.R." Who would you nominate as the celebrity spokespeople for engineering? Bill Gates? Steve Jobs? Hedy LamarrMacGyver? Add your picks - as well as your general observations on the state of engineering and the profession's public image - in the comments section below.

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I graduated as a Mechanical Engineer and have worked in IT as a Systems Engineer for the last 10 or so years. I disagree with the points that the engineering program should be watered down so students do not get weeded out. I have worked with people who had degrees in music, business and other non-engineering majors. What many of them lack is the ability to analyze a problem and come up with a logical solution. Engineering graduates are able to do this from all the "difficult" courses. I don't think too many engineers actually remember calculus, differential equations, heat transfer, etc. But we all learned how to solve complex problems in a logical and disciplined manner.
I am a mechanical engineer.  I went into the engineering field because of my dreams as a youth involving space and helicopters.  13 years after graduation I have learned that there are very few employable engineers that are not super specialized.  In order for me to go to work for NASA (my childhood dream) I would have to be very, very good at one finite element of space travel.  I would spend years on a single task stuck in a cubicle.  

The only engineers that avoid this trap (as I see it) are the ones that are no longer employed as engineers - the CEO's and such mentioned by many people.  

I always dreamed that engineering would be a challenging and complicated field that would enable me to grow and learn things until the day I died.  The actual, on the ground reality is not that for the majority of engineers.

Like most employees in the US today we are not valued beyond our employee number.  True innovation is stymied because the companies we work for own all our original thoughts.  The only reward waiting is a potential pay raise.  Worst case, after years of loyalty to a company we can easily be downgraded and out sourced.

The best, most capable engineers I have met in my career have been men and women who never went to school, their knowledge is purely experience driven and thus, their solutions are infinitely more achievable than any proposed by PhD engineers who have spent 10 years locked in a library.

I would not recommend the engineering or scientific profession to any children seeking guidance for their future.  For those seeking truly challenging jobs that will force you to grow through new knowledge and experience I recommend getting a high school degree - traveling around the world (and your own country) for a time, and then start your own business.  Practical experience (i.e. a real world job or two) will be much more useful throughout your career than 5-10 years locked in a University being taught theories by people who have rarely tested them in a practical setting.

Also – if you do go into the engineering field, be warned that people today the world over could care less about how things are made or what innovation went into them.  Be prepared for blank looks and a quick change of subject anytime what you do for a living comes up in a social situation.
Do NOT dumb down the courses. I am a computer science grad student and the tough courses are valuable for weeding out the losers. The kids who want to make lots of money but don't really 'get it'.
While I agree that many institutions should review their freshman curriculum, it is a bad idea to "dumb down" an engineering program.  Everyone wants to see the doctor who was first in his or her class, not the guy who got by with a C minus average.  Nobody would think to make a medical program easier to improve retention and have more "smart" doctors.  

Now I ask, what is the difference between a medical doctor and an engineer?  When a doctor makes a mistake, his patient may die.  When an engineer makes a mistake, say he or she fails to figure for a load in a structure, the structure fails and MANY people may die.  Do you want to drive a car, stand in an elevator, fly in a plane, use a power tool, etc, that was designed by someone who got by on an easy curriculum?  I know I don't want to trust my life to someone who cannot pass calculus and physics.  

Engineering is a tough field.  You have to be able do deal with calculus, physics before you can even hope to deal with the higher courses in an engineering program.  So I ask this, why not do a better job preparing our children to handle classes like this while they are younger instead of the "dumbed down" courses offered in K-12 now?  I have seen some of the tests my grandparents and parents took, and for the rest of the under 30 crowd, trust me it is much harder than most of the stuff I had to do when I was in high school.  When we have people graduating high school with 3.85 GPAs who can't make change without a computer, can't multiply 12x12 without a calculator, and can't write above an 8th grade level, I have to ask, what is wrong with society?  

As far as adding some sexy to engineering, it is a great idea.  I am an engineer, and while I do spend time sitting at my desk crunching number and crunching away at my computer, I enjoy coming to work every day, I have opportunities to travel around the country, do volunteer work in the community, and do to many fun and exciting things related to my job.  Most engineering jobs today are far cry from trig tables and slide rules.  Engineering today can be much more hands on, exciting and fulfilling than it once was.  With careers available from doing anything from helping design fishing tackle, to automobiles, to stereo speaker, to light bulbs and everything in between, there are literally thousands of possible jobs.  

Focus this program on the opportunities and don't try to dumb things down.  I don't want to purchase a product from an engineer from a dumbed down program any more than I would want to have surgery by a doctor who couldn't pass a basic biology course.  
Another factor that influences students not to become engineers is the life of an engineer can be very transitory. To be an engineer you have to accept the fact that projects have a life cycle of two (2) to five (5) years generally. In the life time of an engineer, that engineer will have worked for a minimum of four (4) to as many as 15 employers (I am at  seven (7) right now). In many cases an engineer will have to do some very creative stuff to remain employed.

Following the job market where it is at the moment I have moved from one coast to the other. I have also lived in one city and worked in another traveling over 100 miles each way each day (there are some that have had to fly to their work thousands of miles away each Sunday evening and return home that Friday). I have also worked as a contract engineer to keep the income flowing.

Those that choose not to move around following the jobs take jobs to fill in the gaps between engineering jobs/projects. Many just give up and go into something else. If the various engineering associations can address this issue you may just improve student acceptance into engineering improve.
These are some wonderful comments and thoughts related to the engineering profession and its current status.  The majority of which I agree with completely.  I especially liked Grant from Texas' thoughts on how engineering is really so much more than mere science, and requires the multi-dimensional talents we associate with what have sometimes been called the "fine arts".

Alas, the facts are we live in an age of visual flash and splash.  Our kidlets are swayed by the popular cultures from TV (hence the love of being doctors and lawyers).  Making a weekly drama about the life and times of a group of hard working engineers would be a difficult proposition...unless of course the actual "glory" of the profession were overshadowed by lots of "propositions" etc.,  Face it...Engineers have rarely been know as the guys who get the girls (...or vise versa for the lady engineers among us).

Maybe in our Hollywood world, something can be done to highlight the engineering skills needed to realize the visions of our popular entertainment.  Peter Jackson brought Middle Earth to life...but only with the creative talents and assistance of some very very bright engineers (who can justly be called artists as well)
Engineering is the best career in the world, until you get laid off. The profession is far too cyclical, and outsourcing to India isn't making things better. As an example, practically all of the top-notch Optical people I used to work with at Bellcore are in other fields now, despite that being ground zero for optical networking in the 1990s.
I agree that dumbing down the courses would be a big mistake! Imagine dumbing down courses for the doctors who operate and diagnose...who would agree to that?!?

Instead, how about promoting knowledge of the diverse career opportunities an engineering degree can offer? Most people are vaguely familiar with mechanical, civil, and electrical, but I'd bet 90% of the population doesn't have a clue what an Industrial Engineer is capable of pursuing, including the companies that hire them (speaking from experience here ;)).And how about Biosystems, Materials, etc etc....

As for role models in a marketing campaign, I would pick your average practicing engineers in a range of fields as my spokesmen. These men and women would be easier to relate to, current with today's opportunities and goings-on, and show students the real opportunities available to them today.

I graduated in 2003 from Clemson University (go tigers!) in Industrial Engineering, passed the PE exam, and went on to graduate with a Masters in Indurstrial Management. I started my current job as a Process Planning Engineer by applying for a position that was looking for a Mechanical (but fit PERFECTLY with IE background), and was the first woman to be hired as an engineer at this location.  And I still am.
I think part of the reason Engineering gets ranked so low is because students/kids don't know exactly what it is.  Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers.... everyone knows what they do or have a general idea of what they do.  But Engineering is somewhat vague and it is a very broad category.  I think once it is broken down, Electrical, Mechanical, Civil, Industrial, Chemical, etc... it becomes a lot easier to explain and therefore becomes more appealing.

My father was an engineer and for years I didn't know what he did (yes, even I thought it had something to do with trains!).  But as I got older he explained to me what he did (electrical engineering) and it helped me to understand engineering as a whole and helped me to pick Mechanical Engineering as my major in college.

I think if there is a way to demystify engineering that would help.
I am an Engineer...well, Project Manager and Sr. Designer of automated high speed machinery and I also have a 12 year old son. I don't want him doing this for a living...to mush stress, no thanks or respect, not enough money, and to much overtime because there is never enougt time to complete the project on schedule. I do it because it's what I get paid to do so I can live as I really am. As far as the courses go...you don't need all the math and other garbage like in the old days when everything was done with pencils, angles and "T" squares. Todays computers are the best tools for engineering...It's like playing a video game...
What I have found as a woman with a B.S. and M.S. in engineering and 20 years experience, is that the profession is not nearly as "flexible" in work/life balance as I have seen in other professional fields.  I would like to see the a new "mindset" given to creation of job opportunities that say to young people "hey you can be an engineer and have a life too".  The work place should create jobs that are marketed as "30 hours per week" or "summer off" without that intense negotiation I've had to submit to when my children were born.  

Is it because we engineers are so intense and focused that we have learned to sacrifice a little life along the way to stay on our respected path of problem solving?  Is that what the kids are seeing?

Back to answer the first question: Let's pick President Jimmy Carter.  He was the only President with an engineering degree.
I am a female engineer at a top-notch defense firm, and even though I only graduated two years ago, I keep receiving many offers from excellent firms.  

I never even considered a career in engineering in high school.  When I was a freshman at a very expensive school, I just couldn't bring myself to major in English or communications and expect to make money, and be challenged.  I fell back to Mechanical Engineering, and just coasted through.  I always excelled at Math and Science, particularly Physics, but was never encouraged.  This should change.

As well, college grads want to work for the Googles and the Apples...you're not going to find many companies for Chemical and Mechanical engineers expecting the same kind of work atmosphere.  That has to change - the Lockheeds and Northrops and Boeings all need to embrace radical change to start retaining their work force, and bringing more creativity and enthusiasm to the profession.  
As an engineering student, I can say that the sterotypes hold true for a majority.  I don't like most of my peers; they're smelly, nerdy, and they don't do anything but study/play videogames at home.  It does not make me thrilled about what the work environment will be like when I get a real job.

The biggest issue I see, however, is in the liscensing requirement.  We are constantly told that Aerospace Engineers are needed.  The average age is 55 years old according to Aviation Weekly, and at least one story on MSNBC has cited a loss of 100,000 engineers this year that cannot be replaced.  However, the society that liscenses engineers has decided that requirements are not stringent enough.  Starting in 2011, a bachelor's degree is not good enough to take the exam for possible certification as a Professional Engineer.  A prospective engineer needs to have 30 graduate level units in addition to years of real experience.  There is a huge disconnect between those that want to keep the profession elitist, and what is needed in our growing need for technical number crunchers.
Engineers are mostly corporate worker-bees who will never be well paid or well rewarded. They don't have a strong professional organization like Bar Associations or the AMA to see that they are paid in accordance with their hard studies and work. Corporations use engineers like light bulbs. If they burn one out, they just dump her/him in the trash and screw in another. The only hope for engineers is that their profession ultimately becomes so undesirable that few graduate, and the supply and demand imballance causes their pay to increase. This is probably slowly happening, but engineers still have little hope of ever being really successful like a rich trial lawyer or a doctor. Bill Gates is not an engineer. He's a college dropout who made a fortune by marketing the hard work of engineers. In the end, the only reason corporations want more engineers is so they can work them harder and pay them less. I've been an engineer for 30 years and I would never advise a young person to go into this field. As the old joke goes, don't tell my mother I'm an engineer, she thinks I'm a piano player in a house of ill repute and I wouldn't want her to be dissapointed.
I agree with Jason on the course aspect of this problem.  Making classes less difficult will do the nation no good in the long run - we wanted more engineers, right?  If they can't do engineering they arent really engineers.

The problem is that engineering is a cold science.  In my experience most people don't see how this really effects the softer side of human existance.  A doctor saves lives - that has a visible significant impact.  But the connection between engineering and everyday life, and how much it really helps us is more convoluted.  I think that when this becomes more clear to people, then it will be easier to attract more students to engineering.
Engineers definitely do not get paid what they're worth.  Virtually everything you come into contact with everyday was designed by an engineer.  Technology would not be where it is today without engineers.  Microwaves wouldn't exist to help make dinner in a fraction of the time, air conditioning wouldn't be able to cool us during the hot summer months, TV and video games wouldn't stimulate our minds and imaginations.  And sure doctors get the credit for saving someone's life, but the guy in the lab who created the life-saving device might only get a pat on the back from his boss (don't get me wrong, doctor's should be rewarded for the risky work they do).
The point is, engineers are an extremely vital component of human civilization, yet the emphasis for this is not there.  I'm glad though, that some things are finally being done to focus more attention on the importance of engineering.  But I think a key component to sparking potential engineers interests......is to increase the pay rate of engineers.

And while I'm at it, we need to do the same thing for teachers.  Without teachers, engineers would have nowhere to begin.  Without teachers, the youth of the world would be doomed, along with the advancement of the human race.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for all teachers.
As an undergraduate Industrial Engineer who returned to business school and now works on Wall Street in finance, I feel I have a unique perspective on the situation.

If you are a relatively introverted person who likes tinkering with things and is comfortable hitting a salary ceiling about 6-8 years out of college, engineering could be the career for you. I found that the rigorous academic background is excellent but when applying to graduate school, the grade hit I took for being an engineer was not worth the superior education. I did extremely well on the GMAT, which I attribute to the rigorous education, but found myself having to explain why my grades weren't as good those of people with less challenging majors.

I would council a bright, well adjusted high school student to choose a major that they enjoy that has an analytical component but also, just as importantly, focuses on communications skills such as grammar, structured writing, speaking and presentations. I was a very successful engineer in large part due my ability to write design documents that logically explained problems and then offered solutions to the problems.

With this degree, they will be in good shape to apply to business or law school. These fields do not have salary caps like most engineering jobs do. Just look at what hedge fund managers or partners at law firms make and compare that to what a seasoned PE makes. There really is no comparison.

In addition, as an engineer, you will be competing with the cream of the crop of over a billion Chinese and another billion Indians. I would prefer to be one of their divorce attorneys and take a good amount of their life savings rather than have to slowly accumulate it over a lifetime as an engineer.
Perhaps nobody wants to be an engineer anymore because of the high rate of good, experienced engineers being laid off, cast aside and outsourced. I'm an engineer...have been for 20+ years, and I would tell my kids to never, ever enter this line of work. Engineer in the modern workforce is akin to being "well-educated cannon fodder".
What if we looked no further than Europe and studied people's attitudes toward technical education there? How about if college admissions and scholarships were more based on intelectual and academic achievement and less on an individual's ability to throw a high velocity curved ball? That is the European way. How about if status and prestige in high school were a little more balanced in favor of the "geeks"? This would also be the European way. What if schools and government reached out to Parents to explain to them that if a child prefers reading and science experiments to slugging balls with a piece of wood, there is nothing wrong with that child, quite the contrary? Again - the European way. There is currently a nationwide campaign in the US about attracting students to the engineering profession. Apparently the nation is running out of engineers and scientists. If we want to stay on the acumen of science and technology and be able to maintain our strategic strength in the world, this should become a problem of national policy, not to be left just to the professional organizations and their marketing campaigns. Would it be thinkable - for example - to subsidize technical education, like all other developed nations have done and are still doing it? I know this would fly in the face of the Chicago School of Economics free market, supply side theories, but it's not the Economists who build the infrastructure and the weaponry - it's the Engineers.
As an engineer, I have heard this discussion off and on for about 10 years. It's now a source of grim amusement. The CEO's will periodically give speeches on the importance of engineering to our country's future. They will talk up the good side of engineering (the creative freedom, the sense of accomplishment) in order to attract bright students. The next day they will lay off their engineers and outsource the jobs.

At my own company, the “powers that be” decided to start an Indian engineering division. It turns out the India engineers were nowhere near as efficient as American Engineers – and the engineering managers reported that. The message from above was “They only have to be 40% efficient and it's a cost savings”. Doesn't matter that the designs are poor – just that the CEO can report a short term gain and boost the stock price before he exercises his options.

Bright students aren't avoiding Engineering because it lacks glamour, they are avoiding it because its future is grim.
Engineering by nature is a difficult thing to market.  The field is wide with an almost infinite variety of professions an engineering grad could obtain.  Many go on into law (i.e. patent law) and many others into the medical profession (those that are bio-medical engineers).  I will be graduating from North Carolina State University this weekend with a BS in Mechanical Engineering.  The reason I entered this field is that is offers a wide range of job opportunities.  With a ME degree it is possible to work in nearly every field imaginable, from HVAC to aviation, even in the medical field.  

Of course the degree was not an easy one to obtain.  I could have easily chosen a different field to study.  Yet this is what engineering is about, it is not easy nor should it be.  The various writers above are right when they say that they don’t want someone who couldn’t get through the work load, designing their bridges or cars.  Engineering is about thinking of all the possibilities and taking these into account in the design.  Assumptions are absolutely necessary as well.  For instance, you wouldn’t design a car to protect someone going 150 mph from a head on collision just because there is a chance that they might drive that fast. This is the perpetual conundrum that engineers face and is what makes their jobs so difficult. Hence, one does not want someone that couldn’t think of the possibility that the engineering degree might be difficult, time consuming and highly competitive as an engineer.

As for marketing of the field, I would suggest a focus on the fact that engineers can and many times do, make a difference in this world.  I will admit that many times there is no glory with what we do and we are often underappreciated by society.  Yet I have found ways to make a difference and more importantly I feel good about myself as I have accomplished these things.  I helped to start an organization here on campus called Engineers without Borders.  We are part of a much larger international organization that uses the now how and philanthropic nature of many different types of engineers and people in other fields to solve the various problems that our world faces.  My involvement with this organization has been enlightening to say the least and has provided me with inspiration when times were difficult.
I'm glad this issue is getting more attention lately.  Working in product development consulting over the past 10 years, I've worked on many fun projects and have enjoyed the challenges and successes.  The monetary rewards however, have only been average, and job security practically nonexistent.  At this point I don't know that I could recommend the profession to anyone looking to make above average wages; but I would recommend it to someone looking for enjoyable work.

As to why the profession's monetary reward suffers, it may be due to the lack of communication skills taught within the standard engineering curriculum.  The coworkers I see climbing the ladder are typically the "talkers" who are comfortable leading project teams.  Perhaps that is one solution to this problem: add more marketing and communication requirements to the curriculums.  Or perhaps create an alternate path that would reduce the technical skill requirements and increase the communication skill requirements for engineers looking to do more program management.

I wouldn't want the weed-out courses removed from curricula, because those those academically savvy students who aspire to become the brainpower of a project team would suffer.  A good team needs both brainpower and eloquent leadership to be successful.  Although there is no reason one person can't be both.  I had a professor in college who suggested I present a senior project to an ASME conference to go from a B to an A in a course.  His reasoning: if you are the smartest engineering in the world, but can't tell anyone what you know, what value do your bring to the table?

The issue of dwindling engineering enrollments will need to be solved quickly.  Otherwise the US's already dwindling manufacturing and R&D base will move overseas.  When our allies greatly surpass us in the area of manufacturing and R&D, what is to stop them from inventing the next great technology? What if that technology removes their need to form alliances to achieve their goals, or worse yet - impose their will.  Engineering knowledge truly is power.
Dummying the programs down, are you kidding?  I am an engineer in a city of few degreed engineers but it seems like everyone I talk to is an 'engineer."  The term is very popular these days.  What would happen to a person if they began calling themselves doctor or barrister?  Maybe there should be repercussions for people who call themselves engineers.  The profession needs to be brought up socially such as those of physicians.

There certainly is the persona of being a geek if one is an engineer.  But there is another persona as well, one of intelligence.  I was asked to speak to a fourth grade class on career day.  I was worried about being boring.  I spoke of my times as an engineer on the military program called in those days Star Wars.  To my surprise the teacher contacted me and said my presentation was the most exciting of all.  She invited me back for several years running.

I beg to disagree with the writer that said few engineers are on the cutting edge.  I have been a military contractor engineer for 18 years.  Almost every job I have had has been cutting edge.  Just look to the military.

I personally believe the profession needs two things.  One is as stated in the first paragraph to being the field up socially where one is as proud of being an engineer as being a physician.  Secondly is to bring the salary range up as well.  I make low six figures, but can practically double that by going into sales instead of engineering.  The second recommendation will also help the first.

I make a good living and do have the self-esteem of being an engineer (see second sentence of second paragraph.)  Keep the programs in the Universities hard, no pain, no gain.  Appreciate your engineer.  Most actually do have very keen senses of humor and will love to help you solve problems.
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the trap of over-simplification. There is no such thing as an "engineer", but instead a whole host of disciplines: aeronautical, biomedical, chemical, civil, computer, electrical, environmental, industrial, mechanical, traffic, and more. They have nothing in common except the approach of applying scientific principles to solving real world problems. And the high school student we are trying to sell on the profession has probably never heard of any of these disciplines (unlike medicine, where by that age they know there are pediatricians and allergists and surgeons and dad goes to the heart specialist...).

Trying to match a student's talents and interests to a specific niche in the wonderful world of engineering is a much more daunting task. It is what career guidance is supposed to be about, but we all know how understaffed schools are in that field. In the end, we'll rely on the engineering professional societies creating and running volunteer mentoring programs to each find their own replacements.
As an Mechanical engineering student with two finals later today, I have to say dumbing things down a bit might enlarge the pool of prospective engineers but would definately make that pool a bit shallower. Remember, the first rule of thermodynamics is you do not talk about thermodynamics!
I have been in the engineering profession for over 10 years now.  I must admit that I don’t agree with Ms. Jenniches statement that engineering work is as important as a doctor’s because those are two completely different ball parks.  A person can’t live without a heart, but a person can live without a car.  

For the most part, engineering is a very mundane, repetitive, and thankless job.  Its like any other job a person does.   You sit at a desk all day, stare at a computer and depending on what type of engineer you are, you might be lucky and be out in the “field”.  All engineers do these days is build piles of paper and that is slowly going the way of the dinosaur as more companies try to go paperless.  Sometimes you will get to see the fruits of your labor when a part is delivered but other than that you see it through the computer screen.  Knowing what I know now, I would have majored in something else.  The romantic days of engineering have been replaced by bureaucracy and managers trying to make as much money as they can.  

Kids want to have exciting jobs, see the world and make good money.  Not that you can’t make a decent living as an engineer, but you can make more as an accountant, marketing exec and those are easier majors to study.  I don’t think classes should be “dumbed” down, but to be honest, not once have I used calculus or pretty much anything that I studied in college while in the industry.  You receive your diploma from college and your education from work.  

Engineering more or less chooses you, you don’t choose it, it's just something that is in you naturally.  So good luck with the recruiting, more power to them.
Minorities we already have in engineering. Lots, and lots of Asians and Indians so there is no issue here. As far as women are concerned, 90% of the engineers at the telecommunications company I work at are still guys.

The big question is "how do you get girls to develop a liking for taking things apart or to tinker with how gadgets work"?. I don't know too many girls or women who want to check under the hood of a car, or want to take their iPods or computers apart. But I do know one or two.
I am an engr (class of 67) and agree with Jeff in FLA above.  The big problem with engineering is age bias in business.  As one approaches age 50 business puts a big target on you - they would much rather force you out and go back and hire a new grad for much less money. Basically engr is one of the few professions that makes one LESS employable as the years of experience increase. There is NO shortage of engineers in this country - just a shortage of jobs for them.

Business is so determined to "outsource" everything that this profession is very limited. I've worked in an engineering capacity for 40 years, and everyone i've ever worked with or for has been forced out of his job before the age of 60! And it's a long list.

I have two sons and actively discouraged them from becoming an engr - one listened - but hey, 1 for 2 isn't bad in that category
Engineering is definitely not a flashy profession. It is about understanding the world around you and wanting to improve it. Take a look around and see what is near by and then think about that same object 10 or 20 years ago. Was it even in existence? If so, what was it like. How many of us had Ipods or cell phones as kids. How about cars that park themselves, or helicopters that can also transform into planes. I have a BSME from Penn State and I can't understand why today's youths are so against wanting to become engineers. They want all of the fancy technology, but it doesn't just appear out of nowhere. Sure, it is a tough major to take up, but you don't want someone with a business degree designing a helicopter or a piece of highly delicate surgical equipment, do you?

There needs to be more people, engineers, out there that are willing to get into our schools and inform students what a great career engineering can be. I have given talks at my son's school about engineering and also taken students on a tour of one of my companies facilities in order to expose them to what enginners get to do.

This profession is not about being the most well known person in the news. It is about designing products that keep our friends, families, soliders, and everyone who touches or uses the product safe. It is about taking a good thing and making it better and easier to use. It is about understanding how something works and the physics behind it. For me it is all of these things plus the ability of being able to look up as a particular helicopter flies over and say "I did that."  
Let me get this straight:  I'll take all the hardest classes in college getting high enough grades to graduate and pass an exam, then I'll enter a job market that primarily consists of "contracts" and short-term assignments, maybe at some point landing a permanent position that pays significantly less than my education and experience warrant, to spend all of my waking hours on the job hoping to see my family on the weekends, until I'm so burned out that the company feels I'm "just not keeping up with the workload" and downsizes me, but I can always find a contract job paying a ton of money except that it's located someplace I've never even heard of...

Thanks, but I think I'll teach kindergarten.
Both of my parents are engineers, and I (a non-engineer) went to a school known for its engineering program. Here's why women aren't getting more into engineering: sexism is still rampant. My mother faced a horrible boss and even had to put up with a male colleague who, new to the company and not really having interacted with Mom at all, walked into a room where she was sitting with friendly colleagues and took a swing at her face. If that wasn't bad enough, one of my college roommates faced a professor who, in class, said "All of you women should go over to the Biology Department where you belong." Why join a profession where that attitude is still prevalent and such behavior is allowed? Women have had to fight tooth and nail to "belong" in every single profession, and for the time being we're tired. We need a rest. More importantly, men must wake up and realize that we women can be competent in any profession we choose to enter. We shouldn't have to prove that over and over in each separate professional field.
Many engineering programs are too cookie-cutter and give young students the mistaken notion they need to be experts in everything technical in order to succeed in a particular specialty of interest.  For people who want to be bridge designers, the diffEQ's and structural dynamics courses shouldn't be "dumbed down".  But to require or imply the necessity of the same level of competency in such subjects of someone who could do a very good job planning and designing roads and water distribution systems is a disservice to the profession and will only drive more prospective young engineers away to other professions where the preparation is more rational.

I'm a transportation engineer who almost switched to computer science, graphic design, or (yes, ick) journalism because the courses were so gruelling and often so unrelated to what I'm doing now.  Granted, there's some value in buckling down and getting through something difficult for the sake of perserverance, but the cost of this is too great in terms of how many potential good engineers are made to feel inadequate.

A key improvement would be engineering curricula that offer fewer "core" math and science required courses and more engineering electives.  Hand-in-hand with this should be more specialized professional engineering certifications that require a person to become very competent in what they intend to do for a living and still give them the opportunity to become well rounded in other specialties without requiring a high level of competency in subjects that they (and many of their potential employers) do not find all that useful anyway.

The academics in our field don't generally don't do a good enough job of touting the great variety of skill sets that can make one very marketable as an engineer.  Talents for writing, drafting, and/or public speaking along with basic competency in math and science can make one very successful in engineering.
My husband and I are both engineers, each with over 20 years experience. During our career, we have seen engineering jobs disappear left and right to those overseas. It's just a matter of time before our jobs disappear. Why bother spending years earning advanced degrees, only to be laid off in favor of foreign engineers who are (likely) less experienced, but happy to earn one-quarter of our salaries? We will do our best to steer our middle-school age son away from engineering...
The root of the problem with engineering is the salary that accompanies it.  Society does not appreciate, respect, or recognize engineering and what it has accomplished.  The difference in the amount of education for an engineer versus a doctor or lawyer in no way should reflect in the salaries in which they earn.  How many people put their lives in the hands of an engineer on a daily basis versus the hands of a doctor or lawyer?

Did you use a cell phone today?  Travel on a road?  Work in an office?  Use electricity?  Turn on the heat or air conditioning?  Travel by airplane, railroad, or boat?  Engineers have had an impact on EVERYTHING anyone does day to day.  Yet we are widely under-appreciated and under-respected when compared to other professions such as doctors and lawyers.

The engineering profession has needed to stand up and demand more pay to reflect the importance the profession has in society.  Better pay will initiate a change in the attitude toward engineers and allow us to recruit those that might go into other professional or technical careers.

I whole heartedly disagree with dumbing down course loads.  The great thing about the degree is that once you are through you think differently.  You have survived the mental boot camp of mental boot camps.  Even if a graduated engineer doesn't remember everything they once knew he/she can quickly pick it back up, because they have trained themself to think during the years of intense thinking as an undergrad.

I make pretty good money (enough to buy my own house) and my degree (Electrical Eng) carries prestige everywhere I go.  I personally, do not see the problem with the degree's image.  I have yet to say someone, "I'm an engineer." And have them respond with, "Awe, that sucks."

I nominate Claude Shannon, if I can nominate someone who is deceased.    
I got my degree in Civil/Environmental and was in the profession for about 6 years before I got out. My graduating classmates who received easier degrees in Business and Marketing were making more money than me and getting taken care of. The engineers on the other hand weren't making the money I expected to, got almost no respect and were put in a corner to toil all day. We were a commodity. I left my profession, I'm making more money, getting taken care of and will never return.
I don't know about who would make for a good engineering role model (although my favorite suggestion so far is Buckaroo Bonzai) but what I do know is that the problem with the face of engineering can be seen by looking at the couple of websites referenced in this article.

"Engineer Girl"??? please.  Not only is it not 'sexy' it's also not very interesting or even a good example of a website.  How is anyone going to believe that engineers are behind the coolest gadgets in the world if that's the best they can come up with.  As a former teenage girl who became an engineer I must say that I may have reconsidered my major had I seen that site.

"Try Engineering" is a resource for kids?  It certainly doesn't look like it.  I put my 11-year old son down in front of it (who happens to be really interested in science) and he was bored in approximately 11.2 seconds.

The rest aren't any better.

My suggestion:  1.) stop looking for a spokesperson and create one, 2.) rent a copy of "Real Genius", 3.) stop putting engineers in charge of PR, and 4.) hire a better web dev firm
I didn't know I need a makeover; I think I look just fine!
I think being that being an engineer is losing its appeal on the economic side.  I mean there are so many more careers out there that will pay better for an engineer.

There should be more PR on Engineering as a career of possibilities in the realm of business, innovation and entrepreneurship.

I believe this will make Engineering more enticing to young kids.
I graduated from U of Idaho with a chemical engineering degree a couple of years ago with class of 14. We started out in freshman year with 150 people. I keep seeing that doctors and lawyers are mentioned as being more prestigious than engineers. One of my fellow graduates went to med school to be a surgeon (heard from him later that med school was a cake walk after getting a ChE). I almost decided to go to law school in order to be a patent attorney (starting salary around $150,000/yr and up). Engineering does not have to be the final step. The degree itself teaches you how to teach yourself, efficiency, perform under pressure, analyze and approach problems. Many professions require these vital skills.

In the end I was hired as a process engineer at a consultant firm. I was lucky to have a supervisor that is actually interested in developing my skills so that I will be able to advance instead of only having me crank out calculations. I guess what it boils down to in my opinion is: How many doctors or lawyers get to have their hands in the design of several projects (or the equivalent for their profession) costing $10-$80 million within their first year out of school?
I am a female Mechanical Engineer, and I am still in my twenties...so I'm not too far removed from this generation of teens. (It also helps that I've been a youth counselor at my church for several years.)

What the engineering profession needs is a spokesperson with a young fresh face that will appeal to middle school and high school kids.  Consider what Rachael Ray has done for the world of cooking.  My neighbor's kid, who is in the 6th grade, loves watching Rachael Ray and wants to be a Chef.  I doubt she would feel the same after hours of watching Julia Child.  Sorry folks, but Bill Gates, Neil Armstrong, Homer Hickam and the like may be great role models, but they won't appeal to most teenagers.  Bill Nye comes closer, but he still has that "geek" factor we are trying to get away from. They need to find young, hot, smart engineers with lots of personality that look like the kind of people you would see on MTV.  It may be superficial, but it's what works with this generation.

Consider the show CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.  This show is made up of a mostly 20-something good looking cast.  Enrollment in Forensic programs at colleges have exploded over the last several years.  CSI has glamorized the world of forensics, but have you actually seen any real forensic scientists?  They look just like us engineers.  Not glamorous.
If people believe engineers are geeks perhaps it has to do with the cliches that are drug out every time the profession is mentioned.  Slide rules and pocket protectors?!  Please ... I haven't seen either of them being used by a practicing engineer in my 20 years in the profession.

And the notion that engineering is primarily about building bridges or computers is a false one.  There are far more mechanical engineers out there than civil engineers, electrical engineers or computer engineers.  There are also chemical engineers, petroleum engineers, mining engineers, materials engineers, aerospace engineers, etc.  Based on the comments made above ... we are apparently far better paid as well!

Why are Bill Gates and Steve Jobs being put forth as "engineering role models"?  Neither is an engineer ... they are computer programmers!  Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak is the real deal, though.

Neil Armstrong, astronaut and first human to walk on the moon ... engineer.  Kevin Olmstead, world-record game-show payoff winner ... chemical / environmental engineer.

Off the top of my head, other "famous" engineers include John von Neumann ... Henry Ford ... Robert Goddard ... Leonardo DaVinci ... Thomas Edison ... Alexander Graham Bell ... Guglielmo Marconi ... Admiral Grace Murray Hopper ... Elijah McCoy (the real McCoy) ... Eli Whitney ... Linus Pauling ... William Hewlett & David Packer ... Seymour Cray ... astronaut Bonnie Dunbar ... astronaut Judith Resnik ... astronaut Mae Jemison ... Martin Perl ... Lee Iacocca ... Jack Welsh ... Elsie McGill ...

I went to school with more than a few people who switched from engineering majors to business management.  And I make more money than all of them!
Every few years, one engineering society or another attempts to improve the image and appeal of profession.  Good luck with that.  Again.

I'm a licensed Professional Engineer in several states with over 3 decades experience in the power industry.  I have few fond memories of my time in engineering school, and a lot of the career since then has been two gorillas on my back named "short project schedule" and "limited budget". (okay, that's not fair to gorillas.)

Fresh-out-of-school engineering salaries are highly touted, but it eventually levels off while other professionals continue to gain prosperity.  Even though I'm generally recognized at being very good at what I do, my best financial year was 15 years past and I've about given up on making a salary "commensurate with experience" anymore.  Yet, I still have to pay bills and college tuition for the kids, so I trudge on. Based on what they've seen of my life (or lack thereof) the offspring are not going to be engineers and I don't blame them.

There were a lot of other things I had hoped to do along the way, but an engineering career demands your all, so a "flexible lifestyle" has been hard to come by.  Once upon a time, I gave career talks to school kids during Engineers Week campaigns, but I can no longer do this with a true heart.  It's difficult course work and it's no way to get rich or famous. What middle school kid wants to hear that?

In my childhood, I went to school with a kid who later started a trucking business while I struggled through college for that BSEE.  Of the two of us, he's the one that's rich and famous now.  It's kinda too late for me, but do what you really love, not what others think you should do.

(Not all hope is lost though. I play the lottery every week.)
I have always prided myself in "Breaking The Stereotype" that people have of engineers. After almost 8 years of University, 5 years in aerospace and 5 years in the power industry I can't say this proffession is either dull or underpaid. Mechanical Engineering gives a person the best of all worlds in my humble opinion: You learn to analyze and fix just about anything. You learn how to soup up just about anything (My 3 year old's elecric car is a great example)And best of all, I have had the pleasure of building awesome devices, blowing them up, figuring out what went wrong and then doing it all over again!

Mechanical engineering goes way beyond that though, the field involves physics, electrical theory, materials knowledge, Computer knowledge, programming, plc's, pneumatics, hydraulics, you name it.

For the motivated engineer it is a very rewarding profession, with great rewards and yes a great salary.

Not all Doctors and Lawyers make great money, it depends on how good they are for one and how motivated they are to go the whole nine yards, beyond that to become an established lawyer or doctor it takes years and years of gruntwork and underpaid overtime. This is no different for an engineer, long time in school, long time to prove yourself in the field, then you need to publish a few articles, attend seminars, speak at seminars. In short you need to make something of yourself.

But.... if the drive is there, and the hours are put in. Fame and yes, I dare say it, fortune are definetely amongst the possiblilties. Just look at the very long list of famous engineers mentioned in all the previous responses. Btw, my favourite engineers are still Tesla and McGyver.

Lastly, it's all about having fun in what you do. if you don't believe in "the cause" then go be a Dr. or a Lawyer or, heaven forbid, a liberal arts student.
How is it that engineering have reached the current historically low status? Yet other professions of similar age mostly managed to maintain their status. Well, engineers design and build things. For the decades after WW2 US engineers have build amazing things, their products and other achievements were the envy of the world. You'd figure that business should continue to value engineering highly as a result. But there's a deep flaw in US business mindset. Some 20 years ago when developed countries like Japan, W Europe, even Taiwan began to catch up. US businessmen, instead of investing and competing, find it easier and cheaper to simply buy other people's products. The result is loss of entire industries. The repercussions are downgrade of engineering in schools to cookbook courses, loss of jobs and career, lowering of standard and pay. Younger people, facing this reality, simply moves on to other professions to make a living, thus feeding the destruction. Witness the deep wounds US business leaders short-term quick-buck practice inflicted onto such engineering-heavy industries as aerospace, ground transportation (rail, ships, auto), consumer and industrial electronics. Today's young people walks into Best Buy and all they can do is to be amazed by all those cool gears on display, 99% of which are developed, designed, engineered and manufactured in Asian countries. Foreign engineers are in charge, and get paid well. Their businessmen do value engineering greatly, and have every intention to maintain engineering excellence no matter what. Our's are reduced to glorifying importing other people stuffs and call it supply chain, hiring a  bunch of big box floor walkers and call them sales consultants.

The most important reason for the decline of engineering in the US is a fatal flaw in the fundamentals of business value proposition and practice. Blame it on 25 years of business school teaching the wrong things and produce a generation of people who think Wall Street value-maximization is the  ONLY thing.  
Engineering is a great foundational education for today's society. And, it's not limiting -- quite the contrary -- I am a chemical engineer who went back to school to become an attorney. This combination has prepared me extremely well to work in a world that is both highly technical, and highly regulated. I can bridge concepts where often, the perspective is highly parochial. Fellow engineer friends of mine are empoloyed in sales, marketing, management & executive roles, finance and small business. Looking at engineering not as an end in and of itself -- although it can be -- but as a foundation for a long career journey will go a long way towards endearing the profession to more people.
The world needs less lawyers and more engineers, too bad we over-reward the lawyers and under-reward the engineers. The engineers design all the physical things you use, but they don't use that knowledge to profit off of you. Lawyers not only argue the law, they end up writing most of the laws as it is mostly lawyers who become politicians. Lawyers who become judges also get to judge you on how you obey the law.
Would Homer Simpson qualify as an engineer? He seems to be some sort of technician at my Nuclear Power Plant.
Engineering does not need a new face, or a TV show, or any other PR trick. What we need is a vision that will capture the imagination of millions of young minds. Then we set out to realize that vision, the rest is easy. That is what the space program did
I grew up in the house of an engineer. I watched as my father (a mechanical, electrical and HVAC engineer) passed through job after job during the corporate restructuring of the past 3-4 decades. I realized that middle-management and research & development teams are the first to go when push comes to shove. With all of the education, innovation and intellect that engineers bring to this world, they are wholely under-valued by corporate America. Many would-be engineers find that other professions are more profitable and have better job security.

Case-in-point... I am a "closet" engineer. As a child, I enjoyed working on the challenges and practical scientific applications of engineering with my father. However, having seen what he father went through, and with their encouragement, I pursued a field outside of engineering (i.e. dentistry - essentially an engineer of the mouth) which brought much better job security and independence.

Although many companies may be started by engineers, eventually they grow to a size where business executives staff the highest tiers. At that point, the engineers whose ideas built the foundation of the company's success become expendable and replacable. Future engineers need to learn the business skills that will allow them to found companies and remain in control of them, if the profession is to attract the talent of the next generation.


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