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Down with Darwinism

Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:55 PM by Alan Boyle

Hot on the heels of Darwin Day, scientists following the cultural debate over teaching evolution say focusing on Charles Darwin might be exactly the wrong thing to do. And based on the different experiences in the United States and Europe, some say the controversy has as much to do with the sorry state of religious literacy as with the sorry state of science literacy. These and other bits of unconventional wisdom were passed along today during a trans-Atlantic meeting of the minds at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

The theme of today's session was anti-evolution sentiment in Europe, a place where the ideas developed by Darwin and his successors in evolutionary biology haven't historically stirred up as much of a fuss as they have in the United States. Last year, a study published in Science indicated that Europeans were far ahead of Americans in their acceptance of evolutionary theory.

However, that situation may be changing, according to Ulrich Kutschera, a plant physiologist and evolutionary biologist at the University of Kassel in Germany. "The 'Anti-Darwin movement' is currently spreading in European countries and in Russia," he reports in a paper presented at the AAAS meeting. One German-language textbook on intelligent design has just gone into its sixth printing and has been translated into several other languages, he said.

"The more one argues against this creationist propaganda ... the less you can convince people who are not scientists," he observed during a news briefing today. Darwin's detractors are just too heavily "indoctrinated" for the arguments to have any effect, Kutschera said. (One could say that the volumes of back-and-forth argument over the subject on Cosmic Log bear out this hypothesis as well.)

So what's the remedy? "My recommendation is simply ... to no longer talk about 'Darwinism,'" Kutschera said. "You could say that Darwinism is one man's outdated ideology of the 19th century. And Darwinism sounds like Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism ... that's a problem. The second point is that it must be made clear that the modern theory of evolution is in part anti-Darwin. Darwin did not, for instance, take into account the principle of evolution by cooperation."

Eugenie Scott, executive director of the California-based National Center for Science Education, said Kutschera had a good point. She noted that the advocates of intelligent design "can't get through two sentences without using 'Darwinism' or 'Darwinist.'"

"Geologists don't refer to themselves as Lyellists. Physicists don't refer to themselves as Kelvinists. We don't refer to ourselves by our 19th-century representative. The science has grown up," she said. "This is a rhetorical point. There are some scientists who make that error, and they get it from the creationists."

The controversy relates to cultural and religious trends much more than scientific issues, said Antje Jackelen, associate professor of systematic theology/religion and science at the Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago and director of the Zygon Center for Religion and Science. It's common to complain about science illiteracy in the United States, but she noted that most American public schools don't adequately address religion. Meanwhile, religious schools focus almost exclusively on one church's doctrine rather than broadening a student's understanding of other religions.

"What we need to do is [increase] both the scientific and the religious literacy," she said.

Here again, Scott largely agreed:

"We will never solve this problem by throwing science at it. Science is necessary but not sufficient to solve this problem. We have to look at this problem of evolution and creationism in this country from a very broad perspective. Yeah, people don't know that evolution is really good science, so that's something that the scientific community needs to make clear - and that applies to astronomers and geologists and biologists and anthropologists. We all use evolution.

"But people also believe in this dichotomy, that you have to choose between science and religion, between evolution and creation. And here's where the religious professionals have that role to play, in showing that middle position. That it's not necessarily a dichotomy, that there's a great deal of variation out there.

"And at least in the United States - and I strongly suspect in Europe as well, but I don't know - one of the major arguments is that it's fair to teach both: 'We'll give the students all the choices, this is good pedagogy, it's critical thinking. Give the students evolution and creationism, or evolution and evidence against evolution, and let them work this out and they'll become good critical thinkers.' Americans really resonate to that argument. But it's a false argument, and here's where the teachers can help.

"So we have a role for scientists, for the religious professionals, the teachers, and we want a role for parents, too, because parents ought to be demanding that the best science be taught in their local schools. Because in the United States, education is very politicized. You vote for the school board members. It's very different from the top-down system you have in Europe."

Michigan State University science professor Jon Miller, the author of that study on international perspectives on evolution, took an interesting approach to that political question: He ran for a seat on the DeKalb (Ill.) Community Schools board back in the early 1980s - and won. Now he thinks other scientists should do the same.

"When I served, it was a lot more work and a lot more frustration than I thought," he said in a university news release. "But I would do it again. In order to make schools better, you have to do it. A couple terms from every scientist would be fine."

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Dear Mr. Boyle,

I am in the middle of a school board rezoning fight in my community at the present time.  But our batttle is over how to allocate resources fairly in a rapidly growing district.  I shudder to think what would occur if we had to add church / state issues into our current mix.

That being said... There are many like Eugenie Scott and the late Stephen Jay Gould who feel that there is a way to bridge the chasm between science and religion -- and that, as good campers on planet Earth, we all should work on ways to do just that.  

Well... let's all sit around the campfire and sing Kum-ba-Yah!

These are great sounding ideas, to be sure -- but only in Utopia.  Sorry... But, religious faith and the scientific method are not separate but equal constructs.

At the risk of sounding dogmatic, I must tell you that religious faith does not require validation beyond one's own personal feelings and revelation.  

The scientific method is different -- vastly different -- and validation is not just a nicety -- it's a requirement.

I, for one, will continue to work to ensure that there is NEVER a religous intrusion into the public schools in my community.  

Sincerely -- John Woodside
Those of us who are theologians need to do a better job of letting people know that accepting the truth of evolution does not mean turning one's back on God.  Unfortunately, for many Christians, they think that's the choice they face: God or science.  That's why they react the way they do.  

I'm generally successful with my students in helping them to see that accepting evolution doesn't mean they need to trash the Bible; instead, they only need to trash an interpretation of the Bible that doesn't fit the text any more than it fits the science.  I'm hopeful that they will be able to take that message to the congregations in which they will serve after graduation.

But it is a long, uphill struggle, and the creationists make a lot of noise and get all the press. Those of us who dare to disagree with them tend to be demonized and declared heretics.  It is sometimes difficult to get some of my fellow Christians to even let me finish a sentence.
Alan - this is from a non-European and a non-USean (???) but still an American (from Canada).  Our School Boards are elected when we also elect Mayors and City Councillors, although I daresay the Board members are mainly acclaimed to their positions since few people are attracted to that kind of public service.  Education is a Provincial responsibility, not federal, although the provinces always want more money from the feds for "educational purposes."  In Ontario, the Canadian Constitution guarantees two streams of schooling, one for The Public and one for the Roman Catholics or the Separate Schools, teaching the same streams except for the Separate School religion classes.  The Public Schools intermittently have discussions when a parent or two complains about the Lord's Prayer being used out loud to start the day, the parent insisting on complete separation of Church ad State.  I haven't read or heard about any problem with Darwin and creationism.  My personal complaint about education in general is the lack of instruction in History and Geography, Civics and Politics, Grammar  and Spelling, and similar basics.  

Evolution belongs in science class and creationism does not compete with it.  Creationism would be accepted by everyone if we had been there when God created everything out of nothing.  Evolution is still working in everyday life, which should be just as obvious to all as it can be 'seen' as easily as gravity can be felt, or sound can be heard.
My buddy over at BadAstronomer just absolutely goes bonkers over the intelligent design argument. Now, I know some scientists. I don't really know him, we just disagree on some things occasionally. However, he seems to be handling this issue as
If we look at this diagram:  

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We see that the lecturing of a typical class is a very poor way to teach.  With science being such a complicated topic, as opposed to the basics like math, which are taught much more regularly year after year, maybe we should try to teach this particular subject with one of those amazing documentaries we see on the science channel that spells things out so clearly?  
The exceedingly odd thing I find with "creation science" and the like, is that it is clearly blasphemous. To say that human beings were created by God, because it couldn't be by chance, is a not an unreasonable belief, though not everyone shares it. The UNbelievable extention creation scientists (!) make is to say, in effect "God created man, and we know how His mind works so well that we can tell you that He didn't do it though just evolution". It may indeed be a natural process, but just Who created nature? Anyone else see this inconsistency, or is it just me?
I am a evangelical Christian with formal theological training and a master's degree in Mathematics.  I am also of the position that evolution is a mechanism of God.  I am not at all threatened by the evolutionary theory.  Rather, I see it guided, as the rest of the universe, by the hand of God.  

Those of my brothers and sisters who share my faith but reject evolution are, in my opinion, worrying too much about some invasion of meaninglessness that would come from conceiting an evolutionary process.

Life is not random, evolution is not random. There is a pattern and a pattern maker. The Genesis account indicates that whole universe was created ex nilho--out of nothing.  That is truly the most amazing miracle.  That God later breathed his spirit into a creature and thus that creature became man is not nearly as incredible.
I'm a minister and I don't see why intelligent design and evolution can't work hand in hand. From what I've seen, God generally directs natural processes to His own ends, and time simply isn't an issue for Him. If He chose to create just for the fun of it, who's to say that He didn't take His sweet time enjoying it, manipulating a protein here, and an RNA sequence there?
Why not present Faith and Theory to the children and explain that we microscopic beings in this Universe don't really have the answers about where we or anything else came from. Faith:complete confidence in someone or somesthing open to question. Theory: an opinion which may possibly but not positively be true.
What a great article. However, I must point out that many scientists readily admit that the scientific community is as abrasive or more so than the religious community. While evolution is good science, recent scientific discoveries are beginning to unravel many of its major concepts (such as divergent evolution). Fault lies on both sides, as is so eloquently illustrated in Gerald Schroeder's "Science of God." Let's listen to both sides. While the religious right may be a bit hostile, many scientists are no better.
Evolution is bigger than Darwinism - Darwin knew nothing of genes or molecular biology for starters. And evolution is broadening wider than even the Modern Synthesis of Neo-Darwinism and molecular biology too. Lynn Caporale's work on the evolvability of the genome and the seemingly controlled mutatability of certain regions in most genes, plus all the emerging material on gene-control regions and so forth - well the whole field is exploding in ways Darwin (and his geneticist successors) never imagined. It's not that Darwin was wrong - he was spectacularly right - but there's a lot more to understand and know than the basic level of description he worked with.
Stephen Hawking in Ch. 5 in the baby universes talks about every thing being predetermined but it might as well not be but no one knows the future switch the argument to that forum and hook on the possibility of some people proving that you can know some things in the future. If found to be statsitical significant then let me know.
Evolution, Intelligent Design? 

 Let's make it easy for all to see the heart of the matter here by replacing the possible confusions with "Does our universe have intelligence, with "intelligence" subsuming rationality as opposed to irrationality, or not?". If one is a scientist who finds science shows that our universe has intelligence and belies total irrationality, then such a scientist avoids the danger of justifiably (logically as well) being called "a fool" or even a "liar". Those claiming the title of scientist and also claiming that our universe has neither rationality nor intelligence (purpose might also be denied) might be called "fools" because their "science" (and life) becomes, thereby, a search or devotion to something they are claiming does not exist. The appellation of "liar" could be valid because it seems that science clearly gives evidence of and is a search for intelligence and rationality in our universe, which "true" science is even now attempting to discover and expand. 

 All the irrationality (disorder?) one sees, feels, or can expose does not have the power to destroy any scientific, observed rationality (order). 

 One can easily understand the despair of those claiming it's all irrational (or without purpose, even absurd) and their ardent hope that someone can provide them with relief, but others are not required or forced to join their state of despair or belief (religion?), even if they claim the highest scientific credentials, because "belief" is outside the usual scope of science. 

 Here's an even simpler way to make the point being attempted here. Some people believe that they exist others do not believe that they exist. There is no valid scientific evidence that can  verify either claim, but most people have no doubts (majority ruling, however, has no bearing here) and it should be clear that the believers (majority) are exempt from the same despair and other tribulations of the non-believers. 

 Finally, the great discoveries of science, especially astronomy and technology currently, are exponentially expanding the wonder and wealth of existence
in our universe.
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I never understood why more people don't get the idea into their head that maybe evolution in itself was created by intelligent design. What's a greater creation than one that improves itself?
Hi,

For many people the creation, evolution debate is much deeper. If people are animals that have evolved from monkeys, than you can do experiments on people because they are no different than animals. Then abortion is Ok, because we are only animals. Animals have  no sense of right or wrong, then why should we. It is not just this theory of evolution  at stake, but they way that people see each other. Are they special or just another animal?

Tim
Ugh.  That fact that there is even a debate over evolution at this point makes me so sad.  The willfully ignorant are the worst kind of losers.  You can't argue with person who willingly accepts the circular logic and blatant hypocracy of religious teachings.  You can only suffer their presence, and do your best to mitigate their negative effects on society.

Religious types claim that their 'cures' for STDs and pregnancy are great...but what kind of quality of life do you get by following a prophet legally executed by the state?  A prophet who piggybacked on the teachings of a genocidal band of nomadic savages from 4,000 years ago!

Whatever.  Keep religious fairy tales and idiocy out of our laws, and we'll get along just fine.
Thanks for being a part of building bridges between "faith" and "science" with this article.  Darwin is "old" science but he saw existing evidence and recorded it and that is good science.  Drawing conclusions based on evidence takes the next step into the "fuzzy" area.

Darwin did not have the tools of microbiology nor quantum physics, so his knowledge base and hence his conclusions, much celebrated today, also are incomplete.

Teachers of faith would do well to be studied in the latest discoveries available to us and stop seeing "science" as an enemy.  Both Faith "knowledge beyond our senses" and science, "what we can put together with our senses" are part of a complete human knowledge set.  We need both to be whole.
There is too much proof in a creator and an established creation too believe we came from any other creature except God himself. Do you research in an unbiased fashion and I think you will be surprised at what you find! :)
We constantly hear phrases like "it evolved this feature because" in documentaries and books. Lamarck is the progenitor of this concept and it is WRONG. This gives people good reason for spurning evolution and Darwinism because they consider the terms identical but they are NOT. Darwinism is the STUDY of Mutation and Natural Selection (observational science, not pure theory) while Evolution is Darwinism plus additional scientific theory, constantly in flux and sometimes outrageous in perception. ID falls into the latter category. Darwin's observations are indisputable but theories based upon his observations are often confused as to their source. My suggestion is that scientists should be better educated in Darwin's books rather than the texts that interpret his work so that they won't ruffle so many feathers.
The idea of educating people in the real history and meaning of their religion is a wonderful idea; one that would be fought tooth and nail by a great number of religious educators. One who understands the meaning of Genesis understands that the teachings are symbolic and allegorical. An English translation loses much of the original subtleties of the work. Such beliefs as the subservience of women to men, or the creation of the ‘Earth’ in 7 24 hour ‘days’ result from a lack of comprehension of what the teachings were intended to mean. A good place to start is with the study of various world religions. Differences aside, it is the consistencies within them that help one begin to understand.
Even many scientists who don't believe in Creationism are starting to oppose Darwin. In the age when people are learning more about biochemistry, it seems that evolution is much more sophisticated than just "survival of the fittest" type thing. Almost all biological processes are amazingly complicated and the steps of the process are so intricately linked that they simply could not have evolved in a stepwise fashion, like Darwin suggests.
It seems to me that critics of evolution and creation stereotype each other about equally, and equally narrowly. "The Book of Job," with or without the folk-tale ending--ought to be required reading for any cosmologists. Creationists could question their certainty, and skeptics could realize that a theist wrote it.
We need more Jon Millers!  Education is undervalued, else we'd put some of our best people on it.

Everybody says they value education, but the problem is that most of them value it the same way, say, a couch potato values a million dollars.

We need at least a few science literate people on school boards.  But I don't think we need to be science heavy.  We should also have linguists and historians and writers.  We should have natural born citizens and immigrants.  We need a mix.

But right now we're sorely hurting for people who are good scientists.
So are we saying that if churches are willing to let evolution be taught in Sunday School, it might be more okay to teach "creation science" in public school? Fair's fair, after all.

Naaaahhhh.
After studying under one of Richard Dawkin's sutdents in the late 80's I watched a debate between several professors and several creationists. The most interesting thing that I took away from the debate was the understanding that creationism itself was a backdoor stategy of evangelical christians to break through the prohibition of teaching religion in public schools.
How is the U.S. going to be able to compete in the global economy when science here is so disdained?  

Come to think of it, the "theory" regarding the Earth's shape as a so called oblate spheroid is a little shoddy.  Better go see what the Bible says about it.
The search for a middleground of thought between science and monotheistic creationism is likely to fail . Several facts lead me to this conclusion : It should be obvious that much evidence for evolution is contained in the fossil record . We should also consider the observations of astonomers that indicate the age of our universe to be 13.8 billion years +/- 5% . It is also clear that we humans do not completely understand all of the truths of how this physical reality came into existance or even the underlying phisics of how it works . It should not be surprising that people will see this situation from different perspectives . Let me give an example at the level of two individuals . These two men are father and son . The father's philosophy is faith based and adheres to the idea that the Bible is an infallible work inspired by 'God' . The son's philosophy is science based , preferring the use of the scientific method for revealing what was previously unknown . As you can imagine , this difference of philosophies has led to some lively conversations over the years . Repeated unsettled arguments have done nothing to move either gentleman toward accepting the other's position . In later years a truce develops where this topic is avoided , but both still think that the other is wrong and in defending their position they exhibit a personal weakness either in being 'faithless' or 'being obtuse and/or willfully ignorant' .

Faith and science are mutually exclusive in that the scientific method does not allow for faith and faith based religions do not allow for dissent of dogma . Scientists who claim affiliation with the various religions still use the scientific method in their work and so long as they recognize that they can do meaningful research .
Back when I was still in school, and believe me, that's been a while, I was asking "Isn't it possible the evolution was God's plan?"

The real issue goes far deeper than evolution vs creationism. The real issue is, all life on earth is related.

With that knowledge comes responsibility that most people don't want.
You got it all wrong, down with man made religion.Look whats doing all the killing religion, how can we trust the religious people with our children, we cann't..............It all set to blow up one day in our face.......
Maybe I'm a little confused. Scott talks about a perceived dichotomy between science and religion. I interpret her remarks to mean that there is a dichotomy between teaching science and teaching critical thinking. Isn't she saying that if we try to teach critical thinking, we won't be able to get the "right" science into the students' heads?

I wish she would clarify her remarks. Does she believe that students are incapable of learning to think critically, or that teachers are incapable of teaching critical thinking, or both? Does she have some way to teach critical thinking without the use of examples? Or does she want critical thinking applied to only one side of an argument?
This idea makes some sense.

"Darwin" is a label that is easy to defeat. How could a puny human like "Darwin" possibly contend with an anthropomorphic god? The man, Darwin, is much easier to defeat than the ideas that he put forth are.

People that accept and/or practice sound science don't need special labels. Only the people that actually believe in absurd ideas need labels. "Creationist", for instance.
I think I want to vomit..... Jesus is coming folks
I think that some of the arguments from the religion side would calm down if religions were studied in public schools in terms of social and historical context.  Are parents so afraid that their kids will become accidentally indoctrinated?  Parents need to take more responsibility for what their kids are learning.

If your beliefs (moral, religious, scientific, and otherwise) are so flimsy that you can't even bear to listen to the other side, you're going to get yourself in trouble.
I'm going to change subjects on you!  Now for something completely different!

Have you seen the MRO HiRise photo of the H2O crater that the Beagle probe was supposed to have impacted?  Once again, I have to go with what I have, but the articles say that there is no Beagle there! Doggone!

I must say that the blue color and apparent stripes bear a slight resemblence to an Egyptian scarab beetle diging into the 1 to 2 O'clock wall!

Back to the original topic.  I simply place the ID types right there with the astrology believers.  They have essentially the same intellectual value.

BTW, how about enforcing the use of real names and addresses, not off-the-wall aliases, for commenters.  I place a call for the vote before the Chair!
Is the truth offensive?  Are we supposed to lie about reality because some superstitious religious nuts are offended by the truth?  I don't think so.  DARWIN WAS RIGHT!!  Celebrate this observant naturalist.  His vision, while imperfect, was essentially right on the mark.  DNA analysis has supported Darwin's vision, and so have biochemistry and geology.  Dinosaurs are not extinct, because there are more than 9,000 species of Dinosaur still in existence, and some of them taste just like chicken.  How many "missing links" do we have to find before the religious nuts stop saying "... but there are gaps in the fossil record."  There is just no talking to some people, but do we all have to get stupid just because some people truly are stupid?
Thanks for the slanted article.  I myself am a researcher [yes, I even live in academia] and am tired of articles such as these: scientists are good while any that oppose are bad.  Scientists and researchers throughout history have screwed up, been wrong, had no idea what they were talking about, intolerant of other's views, etc.  Even the most cutting edge of research will be lucky to not have been debunked or made fun of by other researchers 10 years from now.  Get off your high horse [researchers, scientists, writers] and realize that you too can make mistakes [that don't originate from the 'lesser people].
Evolution, the teaching that life came from a single source by accident. all of the different life forms proceeded from that sorce. Through a process of mutation or small changes to each succeeding generation. not all of these would be benifical, in fact most would not be, if in fact it also was random. Evidence? Life as we know it today does not work like that. How is it that some animals are able to grow another limb, but the highest form of life has no such ability, yet some organs of our body has that ability to replace itself, our liver, our skin, blood vessels, and soft tissue. If in fact evolution is a continuing process why is there no evidence of it in millions of forms of life? If there is no intelligent designer, where did we get ours? not from apes nor any other source, where did it come from? It would have to come from a incredibley intelligent and tremendously powerful source. Would not such a source want its creation to know somewhat of its creator? Do you think if you were able to create such a creature as we are, that is capable of love of hate of honor of respect that you would remain indifferent to that creature? Why? When we crave all of these? where did we get these cravings? Animals allegiances are soon forgotten, not so with mankind, and I suspect not so with our creator. Has such a one made any attempt to influence these beings? What was said? Was the instructions clear? Does it make sense and can we make sense of it? Has our knowledge in science been of help to us?
Evolution is simply a theory intended to dispute the bible. It doesn't matter that you believe a gun can't kill you, it can and will if you try shooting yourself. The same with belief in God. It doesn't matter that you don't believe he is there, that belief doesn't change the fact that he is. You will find out when you die. If you don't believe in Christ and his sacrifice you won't go to heaven. If you do believe in Christ and his sacrifice and you don't end up in heaven, you haven't lost anything. I choose to believe the bible is the true undisputable word of God, and that means the world is only about 8,000 years old. That's the fact, and not believing that does not change the fact!
I happen to think that both creation and evolution are real. The problem is,no matter how hard anyone tries, you can't prove creation. You can never prove that an omnipotent being zapped us into being with mere thought. That is why it is called faith.
The problem is that the only creationist view they want to teach is the Christian one.  If we were to teach religion along with science in public schools. In order to give the children a true view of religion as a whole, they would have to be taught about all the religions.  And that would never happen, the Christians don't want their children learning about Islam, or Buddha.  They are still very one sided in their views, so therefore as our forefathers stated we must have a separation of church and state.  Keep science in the classroom and religion in the churches.
Well, gentlemen, what are going to do with joint JDs and MBAs who also think that evolution is not solid science. Indeed, what are you going to do with scientists who also think that evolution theory is just that--a theory? Do you think people like me must be "re-educated" to solve this "problem?" Here's the problem, guys. This fact of evolution is no fact at all. It is your theory, and it will fall like so many of the other scientific "facts" of the past 500 years.

Would you like to debate this issue? Where and when?
Intelligent design is a product of liberal extremism or rather people like the ACLU coming down on everyone they can because they want to use the word "God" or have a prayer. All in the name of "seperation of church and state", a phrase which does not even appear in the constitution. I agree religion should be taught. Even a large portion of those that attend church cannot give you alot of answers and in my opinion no one can give you all the answers. I personally don't feel the need to because I am not God therefore it is reasonable that I wouldn't understand everything. Of course some people can't grasp that concept.
One of the problems with creationism is that the "fundamentalists" seem to need to humanize God...if the bible says "six days"...that means Monday through Saturday.  One of the problems with Science is that the "evolutionists" seem to need to ignore God.  

My thought, as a catholic non-scientific layman is that God's day might be several million of our years in length.  And God might have actually started the creation by making a single cell in the primal ooze and starting the drive towards mankind.  The fundamentalists won't like that because it makes God much more powerful than them...the evolutionists won't like it because it answers one question..how did it start?  which they really have no other good answer for anyway...But your're right...let's stop talking about Darwin, and about Calvin...let's talk about evolution and the fact that neither the fundamentalists nor the evolutionists have the answer.  We just have to keep looking...and to do that, we have to keep educating.
Your article ignores the thousands of scientists who disagree wholeheartedly with evolutionary THEORY. Survival of the fittest and genetic drift are observable. "Evolution of the species" is not observed and not proven.
Just for the record, I am a total creationist. That said, I give others the right to believe otherwise. Over the past 20 to 30 years, there has been a great deal of effort to suppress creationism. Everyone should have the right to choose but are not given a choice as information is being with held. We need to create a level playing field and teach both trains of thought.
I suppose that a solution would be to just to teach both sides of the issue. I realize that this is probably much more complicated then it sounds, but to be fair, this is something that needs to be done.
YOU'RE STILL LOOKING INSIDE THE BOX,BUT YOU'RE STILL LOOKING.
The biggest problem is the dogmatics on both sides of the issue. True Darwinism did not so much address evolution as it did adaptation however the evolution of various species is not in question. Where religion and science conflict is the evolutionist assertion that man evolved from a lower life form, there is no fossil evidence to substantiate this assertion. Dogmatic Christians make the same mistake when they fail to realize that evolution is just a creationary tool of God. Christians should never try to limit God's power in relation to thier own ability to comprehend and scientists should never discount his hand in nature. This planet, our solar system and indeed the universe itself is entirely to complex and intricate to be an accident and surely no rational, thinking person would honestly propose that this all occured by some freak alignment of circumstances. That sounds just as irrational as the statement that the Earth is only 10,000 years old. Both concepts polarize an issue that need not be so polarized. Like I said evolution is a creationary tool and that is why there will never be a link discovered to show that man evolved from a monkey or lower life form but there will always be plenty of evidence to show how various species have evolved and adpated since the dawn of creation.
Creationism specifically means creation according to a literal interpretation of the Old Testament. That and any other construct from different religions (Buddhist, Pagan, etc.) constitute the various articles of different faiths called intelligent design. They are just that: articles of faith. They only require belief, not the rigorous, careful collection of scientific evidence. Science does not have the freedom to act "on faith." Nor does it have the freedom to pick and choose which scientific data to accept, as is done by opponents of evolutionary theory to support intelligent design. In short, "intelligent design" is a theological concept, belonging in philosophy or religion classes, not in science classes. Evolution is science and belongs where it is, in science classes.
I think, that whatever a person might believe about life on this planet,one must keep in mind that evolution (however you might want to link it to Darwin) IS a theory. Whether or not Intelligent Design is taught in schools (seperation of church and state & all that) is not what I feel is the most important issue here. I feel that science is being stunted because the scientific world is still trying to fit every new find into the same old "Evolutionary" box. There is only one theory being pushed, and every thought that is not of evolution is squashed. It reminds me of the archaic thinking in the scientific world of the sixteenth century where no one questions the popular flow of thought or tries to think outside-of-the-box concerning science. I think the general public is also tired of being treated like we exist on a lower rung of the ladder of intelligence simply because we are not scientists ourselves. No, we may not all be specialists in the area of science, but I believe most of the educated public has the ability to make a decision based on theories presented to us, and make logical comments on such theories. Let's challenge the scientific community to give us more ideas except the same old worn out arguments pushed upon us, and our children, simply recycled in a different package.


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