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Cloning Barbaro

Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:01 PM by Alan Boyle

Will there ever be another horse like Barbaro? Maybe so, if it were up to cloning researcher Katrin Hinrichs. Theoretically, you could take a tissue sample from the now-dead racehorse, culture some cells and freeze them for future Barbaro clones, she said.

"It just seems to make sense to do that when you have an animal that's genetically valuable," the veterinarian who heads Texas A&M's Equine Embryo Laboratory told me today.

Not that you'd ever put a Barbaro clone in a race. First of all, the rules of thoroughbred racing bar horses produced through cloning, or even through artificial insemination. But there's a more fundamental reason why clones don't make good racers, Hinrichs said.

"This is not a way to produce competitors, because cloning carries along with it so many things that could affect its robustness as a foal. ... If we were to clone Barbaro, that clone would be smaller than Barbaro, maybe not as wide across the chest," she said. The clones would likely lack the environmental factors that turned Barbaro into a champion - such as factors that are passed along from mare to foal during the early stages of pregnancy.

Nevertheless, even though the clone might not be built like a champion racehorse, his sperm would pass along the genes of a champion. And that's how cloned horses would make their mark - as breeders, not racers.

"A clone of Barbaro might not be a good racehorse, but the one thing is that the clone would produce the same foals that Barbaro would have produced," Hinrichs said.

Hinrichs made her mark in the cloning field two years ago, when she and her American and French collaborators produced the first horse ever cloned in the United States. Only one other research group, Texas-based ViaGen, is up and running in the horse cloning race. And this race is more of a marathon than a six-furlong dash. Last year, Texas A&M's group produced just seven cloned foals, while ViaGen produced another five, Hinrichs said.

"We're not exactly burning up the highway here - compared to, say, cattle, where they have dozens of labs working on this throughout the world," she said.

The current policies of the top horse racing associations have served to hold down the commercial interest in cloned horses.

"The main problem is that they can't be registered with any American-type breed registry," Hinrichs explained. "This is what would stop a thoroughbred from racing. But there are areas of competition that are very worthwhile that don't require registration."

For example, Texas A&M's first cloned horse, Paris-Texas, is a genetic copy of Quidam de Revel, one of France's best-known jumping horses and most expensive studs. Hinrichs said Paris-Texas' progeny could well compete in future show-jumping events, carrying Quidam's champion genes into the race. ViaGen, meanwhile, has been cloning cutting horses as well as steeds built for other equine sports.

Winning competitions isn't the only reason for researching animal cloning, of course. Hinrichs said genetic material preserved at facilities such as the Frozen Zoo in San Diego could someday give a boost to endangered species. "That offers an amazing resource for genes that are [otherwise] lost forever," she said.

It's not yet clear whether the appropriate samples were taken from Barbaro before he died. But considering how much attention the topics of DNA analysis and cloning have gotten in the past few years, I'd have to think there's a suitable sampling of Barbaro's tissue already sitting in a flask of liquid nitrogen somewhere.

Even though clones are currently barred from thoroughbred racing, Hinrichs said it still might be worth leaving your options open. Who knows? Maybe the rules will change in 50,000 years - which Hinrichs said is the estimated half-life for the potency of frozen sperm samples.

Update for Jan. 31, 10:30 p.m. ET: The surgeon who treated Barbaro says that no sperm was taken from the horse before he was euthanized. Dean Richardson acknowledged that future fertility would have been a bonus, but "we only were interested in saving his life." No word about tissue samples, though.

Update for Feb. 2, 9:30 p.m. ET: This story in the New York Daily News says Barbaro's owners have denied taking any sperm from Barbaro, or saving any DNA for cloning. Actually, just having a DNA sample would be insufficient for cloning, anyway. You'd need to preserve live cells. But I would side with Hinrichs on this matter: It just seems to make sense nowadays to set aside tissue, or at least DNA, from any genetically significant specimen.

I know that sounds a little bit like the equine equivalent of "They Saved Hitler's Brain." And I know that the rules of thoroughbred racing currently rule out clones or artificially bred animals. But when we're talking about creatures worth millions of dollars, I don't see the harm in preserving a little bit of genetic posterity, for research purposes if for no other reason.

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Alan Sheets,

I doubt VERY much that they were "pulling sperm samples from Barbaro every day since he won the Derby".  If you have read this whole discussion, you would know that a Thoroughbred conceived through artificial insemination cannot be registered and therefore can't be raced.  They would not be "pulling sperm" since the Derby-- and certainly not since his injury... no reason for it.  The Jacksons knew he might never be sound for natural breeding -- they just wanted him to be able to live out his life on the farm.
A Barbaro clone, although it could not race, could contribute some to the breed in a way. Racehorses today are bred more for speed, not stamina. Barbaro had the ability to run far distances, but his bones were relatively weak. But there are plenty of other studs who I think are better than Barbaro because they have speed, stamina, and strength. Take Afleet Alex for example. Perhaps you remember his near fall in the Preakness in 2005. There will never be another Barbaro, so let's let him rest in peace.
I don't think cloning would produce what really made him a champion,that is his mindset and courage. I think that the mind and heart of a champion ,in any thing is unique, and not clonable
Its Crazy to clone a horse like barboro. It will never be the same.Barboro was a great horse.I am not suprised he lasted this long. I thought he would of been able to breed to a decent mare.
The Jockey Club will not accept artifical insemination, much less a cloned horse. Fuggedaboutit.
I think you should leave the horse at peace. If I were Barbaro I wouldn't want some cloned horse that looks like me breeding some other mare. If he didn't get to breed why should his clone get to. Also what if the bone weakness is passed down some other horse would have to go through the same thing Barbaro did that would be cruel.True I would like Barbaro to be cloned but that isn't right that is me being selfish and that is wrong
Alan Boyle -- bet you didn't know so many of your readers are female. A Horse story gets 'em every time.
Why clone Barbaro? - the clone would break down just like the original. If you want to clone a winner clone the great Secretariat! Even so, they have to be trained by a winner to be a winner...
There is so much sadness in the world and the need to love something as beautiful and proud as the animals of the world....just magnified itself when everyone saw Barbaro break his leg. The world began to cry that day...and I for one, have not quit crying. When I heard Monday morning that his front feet were now affected....and have read that the doctor said Sunday night Barbaro couldn't figure out how to get up or lie down - the beautiful light was gone from his eyes.....it was as if he was telling us all....it is time.....I can't help us win this fight. What a horrible sad time for animal lovers. This has been a horrible time especially for horse lovers. St Iiams, Lost in the Fog, Pine Island, Barbaro......and so many others who have lost their fight for life. Bless their hearts and the hearts of all of us love them.
You can't race clones.  Besides it would not be the same horse, (I know I said I would not be opposed to cloning him and I am not as I am all for the advances in science).  They stated that in the article.  As for the breed, they need to go back and look at the horses they choose to breed again and again.  Why are we inbreeding (I thought this was taboo? Do you think it is healthy to have the horses Granddaddy be his daddy to?), so that one horse has the same sire more than once, either both parents have him or he has been bred into the sire/dam more than once?  Is that not why in the wild the stallions only rule for at most a few years and then another moves in?  And why does he run his own colts' away?  He does not want them around for competition and etc.  

We complain about the weakness in the horse's bones but we are the ones who put them there through the process of selective breeding to obtain the fastest horses.  We did not think about the functionality of the animal we were making, but instead trying to reproduce those few great horses(speed only).  In this pursuit we have undermined the animals health and we should try to get that strength back. I think if we were to go and try to change anything we should try and change the habit of inbreeding.  
I'm not sure whether cloning Barbaro would be the best thing i mean i loved the big guy to death in a spiritual sense but a cloned Barbaro in my mind isn't as good as the original.
I don't really have an opinion if he should be cloned or not. But reality is that many horses are being cloned - in 2005 7+ horses, in 2006 - 30+ horses - at a cost of something like $150,000 a piece. I think that to say that you can't race or register cloned horses is shortsighted. The people that can afford to clone their horses are also the people that can afford to pressure Associations into making changes. If the Jockey Club does not allow them to be registered and race - it is only a matter of time before the Cloned TB Association or Cloned Horse Association of America or some other such organization is formed and started - along with their own competitions. The AQHA (Quarter Horse Association) has recently made some changes to what horses that they will allow to be registered (they used to exclude those with "excessive white" - now they allow those horses to be registered). In my opinion these associations are going to eventually allow cloned horses and their offspring in their registries and competitions or run the risk of losing out on alot of money.
Are you people crazy. How would the sport survive with a field of, say Berry Bonds. A clone of Secretariat and Ruferian would mark the end of horse racing.
I agree if would have been a good idea for tissue from Barbaro saved for cloning. He would make a prime candidate, being the horse that he was and the unfortunate set of circumstances in his life preventing him from being used as a stud before his demise. The horse world may have made an exception to the cloning rules given the situation. His genes presumably would offer much to the breeding of great racehorses.
Barbaro shouldn't be cloned. Mother nature and genetics does what it does. Barbaro has a full yearling brother, and we should just let the whole Barbaro issue be. Wait until his brother gets to be of racing age. Let's see what he can do. I'm sure we all agree, he has some large hoofprints to fill
To Julie In Florida - I agree with you, racehorses are bred to run, and they do love it. No animal can put that much heart into something (and it does take heart to win a horse race), unless they love it. I grew up with racehorses. My father put Chris McCarron on his first racehorse. So let me tell you why I hate horse racing...it's because we race these animals too soon and too often. A thoroughbred is not fully grown, nor are their knees closed at 2 years of age. You cannot deny that money drives the horse racing business...and it is the horses that pay the ultimate price. I have seen too many broken down ex-racers that will never live a full life, because of racing. If you look at Barbaro's career, he only raced 5 times, with months in between each race - until that last race. It had only been a few weeks since he had won the Kentucky Derby - if you ask me, that is why he broke down. If they had not been lured by the "triple crown" and rested him for a few months before his next race, we very well could still have that wonderful champion horse today. Should they clone Barbaro? In my opinion, it would be a crime not to save those wonderful genes for future breeding. I do not fault racing - these animals are bred to run and they love it - but it is up to the owners to be responsible and not run a horse before they are fully grown and physically able to handle the rigors of racing. And owners need to treat their animals like the althetes they are, and ensure they are properly recovered before racing them again. Someone should start a lobby to force racetracks not to allow 2 years olds to be raced, and to require a minimum amount of rest time before a horse is raced again. That is the only way we are going to stop seeing these wonderful talented animals broken down (or dead) before thier time. Barbaro, rest in peace great horse - when you ran the ground shook, the sky parted, and we mere humans simply watched in awe. You were gone far too soon, but will live on in our memories forever.
The HBO documentary detailing the life and death of this spectacular animal is  beautifully crafted and a fitting tribute to the true greatness of the  colt. Even Sceptics will be touched by the devotion  of the people who loved him and were committed to saving this animal. There is an  otherwordly quality to the horses short but spectacular career. A nobilty in his bearing, an aura of goodness surrounding those whose knew him. The tragic way he died.  It sets Barbaro apart and allows his story to trancend the sport of racing. Deeply touching.      
HOW DARE YOU even think of cloning Barbaro. Cloning is one of the things I hate about our culture because people want everything and they have to have it... its all about $$$$$$$$$!!!!! who cares about money!? I loved Barbaro and I support the Jacksons decision on trying to save him. if you kept up with the reports, Barbaro was happy and comfortable in his stall and Penn State. That was good. He wanted to live, so let him go on fighting as long as he can. That last weekend he had, he was not happy, so they let him go. I would have done the same thing. I own a horse and I would do the same thing for him if a situation ever happened like that. God made horses, animals, plants, and people all unique. There aren't any equals to you or those creations with the same DNA until cloning came around. It is a shame that people have to be so selfish and change what God has created. Barbaro was a learning experience for everyone. Look at how they lengthened the time of the Triple Crown running from 5 to 9 weeks?! That is an improvement. Look at how they are changing the track surfaces to be safer to run on. IMPROVEMENT! but if i had racehorses, I would let the horse tell me if he wanted to run, and I would also listen to my gut if something is going to happen. We were created to have those feelings, protection and choices. Horses have instincts and they know when something is going to happen. Its not bad luck or good luck that brings a horse down in a race or across the finish line, its heart and how they are bred. I am not happy with how some people are thinking here. He was an awesome horse and is helping the vet industry save other horses like him. God sent him for a reason and he was taken for a reason. Don't try to get him back by cloning. GREED!!! NO! Life is all about learning from mistakes, and cloning Barbaro is not the answer. please think about where you stand. A VERY CONCERNED BARBARO FAN...
I think Barbaro should be cloned.  This will expose cloning for the whole world to see. I also think it would be a good idea to get clones into racing, even if it's in a separate category of racing. It could be a historic first step toward the cloning of human athletes. Imagine the impact that a clone Ali could have! We could find out how a sober Mickey Mantle would have done or how a steroid-free Barry Bonds would do against a steroid-free Roger Clemens.  The possibilities are endless.  It would be a logical next step in professional sports.
I don't think that cloning Barbaro is smart. Even if they have the same traits, no one said they would look or act the same. The first mule that was cloned, it's first copy didn't look or act like it. The next 2 were smaller but the same color. The Jackson's have already rebred the sire and dam and got Nicanor.They are hoping for Nicanor to make his brother proud.
It would be cool to have barbaro #2 alive bet it would not be the same. how would you feel if somebody took dna from you and created another one of you. I miss barbaro but since he died thought of his brothers that could fallow in his hoofsteps


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