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UFOs in the clouds

Posted: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:55 PM by Alan Boyle

More than 3,000 reports of unidentified flying objects were sent to the National UFO Reporting Center over the past year - but not one has generated as much buzz as November's sighting at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. Was it a metallic-looking, saucer-shaped object rising through the clouds, or nothing more than a meteorological oddity? It's hard to figure out whether the truth is really out there, but one thing is for sure: Clouds can do some positively alien-looking things.

Peter Davenport, the UFO center's director, says the buzz over the O'Hare sighting is fully justified.

"In my opinion, because I know the quality of the witnesses, and because I know the nature of the documents that were generated, it is one of the most dramatic cases of the year 2006 that this center has handled," Davenport told me today from the center's headquarters in Washington state.

On the other side, NBC News space analyst James Oberg - a longtime UFO skeptic - says the evidence that's come to light so far isn't all that compelling.

"It's just sad that we keep getting these reports which are of zero evidential value," he told me. "It's sad because there's a lot of strange stuff in the air that we do need to know."

Davenport's center put out the first reports on the O'Hare sighting weeks ago, but the report really picked up traction over the past weekend, when The Associated Press picked up a Chicago Tribune story about the case (free registration required).

Here are the basics: Employees at O'Hare reported seeing a dark gray, seemingly spinning disc hovering above Concourse C - at an estimated altitude of hundreds of feet, close to the cloud cover. The disc appeared to fly up at a rapid rate, leaving behind a hole in the clouds.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that it received a sighting report, but agency spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said no further follow-up was planned.

"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she told the Tribune. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things."

Case closed? Not so fast, Davenport said.

"I am certain that the airline and the FAA are now attempting to conceal the true nature of the incident," Davenport said.

So far, about a dozen witnesses - all affiliated with the airport or airlines - have surfaced, according to the Tribune. Davenport said he's not yet aware of any reports from outsiders.

"Trying to find the actual eyewitnesses is very difficult," he said. "My suspicion is that there are a great many more. ... You ask, are there other witnesses? My response is, almost certainly. How do we find them, and how do we get them to come forward?"

One of the airport witnesses did take a photo of the phenomenon, but is reluctant to make it public out of concern for his job, Davenport said. "So far, over almost two months, we've been unable to get that," he said.

I have a feeling that even photographic evidence wouldn't settle the case. There are so many weird atmospheric phenomena out there that even crystal-clear pictures could be interpreted either as UFOs or as cloud patterns. For example, check out this roundup of lenticular clouds (offered with a big tip o' the Log to Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy Blog). Even knowing what they are, you'd be hard-pressed not to see them as flying saucers worthy of a Steven Spielberg blockbuster.

The idea that the disk left a hole in the clouds might sound like an atmospheric vortex phenomenon - perhaps like the vortices created when airplanes zoom through clouds. This Web page includes a video of an airplane leaving a dark, indistinct vortex in its wake. Other weird phenomena are reminiscent of smoke rings.

When I suggested that the O'Hare incident might have been a vortex created by an airplane rising through the clouds, Davenport shot me right down.

"You can conjecture all day long on that point if you wish to do so, but it's futile in this case," he said. "First of all, airplanes don't fly over [terminal] gates, they fly over runways. So your surmise, I think, is not appropriate in this case. ... This object was seen by many people to accelerate so fast and go straight up in the clouds that their eyes were unable to follow it."

To be fair, Davenport's center has been taking such cases seriously for 32 years - longer than I've been a professional journalist. So who am I to question the reports, particularly when they seem so authoritative?

The O'Hare incident is being taken more seriously than most sightings because the reports are coming from aviation professionals rather than untrained onlookers. But Oberg argues that the professionals don't always make the best eyewitnesses because they tend to favor flight-related explanations for what they see.

"NTSB investigators say that the worst observers of an aviation accident are aviation personnel," Oberg said. "It's because a pilot will usually want to understand what happened, and in his initial perceptions and later retellings will stress the facts that support his initial interpretation."

Oberg pointed to a couple of case studies in pilot misperception, investigated in detail years ago. And just for good measure, he passed along Web links to a Russian UFO report from 2001 that sounds similar to the O'Hare incident, plus the solution to a UFO mystery that came up just last week in Europe.

Oberg said the European case was particularly instructive, because the specifics about the mysterious glow in the sky helped investigators quickly figure out that it was most likely a cloud trail left behind by a Russian rocket launch. Without such specifics, the O'Hare incident may turn out to be little more than another "missed opportunity," Oberg said.

In any case, the incident is making for an interesting tale, and that has led Cosmic Log correspondents to add more UFO tales to a posting I published back in June. Feel free to offer up your own story right here in the comments section, even if it's decades old. If you've got a recent sighting, you might want to let Davenport know as well - you can find the contact details at his Web site.

Even if you've never seen a UFO, you can weigh in with your opinion on extraterrestrial life by adding a click to our unscientific Live Vote - and gauge your UFO IQ by taking our trivia quiz.

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hey dont make too complicate people reality is only a base for the future living in the future eheh look if you think that in the next 20 years we gonna have amazing progress ... lets make the point lets say that man someday in the not far future could  get invisible or be a time traveller  well lets say all this could be possible in the year of 2300 no? ok in 2500? no? ok in 2600 ? well not matter when we ll be they are able to travel time and be invisible eheh whats the point ? up to your fantasy. are we real? is the government real is the government already in the future  its the crime real its the war real no guess should i guess only one guess wake up people
these crafts were written of long ago in the bible. get ready for more will come. i wonder how many are mentally prepared ? unfortunately those that will be flying them will not be soft fluffy winged back angels, but rather the evil angels disguised as ministers of God, coming in peacefully and prosporously.
Thanks Jonathon!  To further your point, some writer once noted that nothing beats alien stealth like the potential for probes being smaller than grains of sand.  Even we can manipulate atoms, which makes it possible to build something even as intricate as a mainframe computer smaller than what can be seen.


We can also very much assume that if they can travel all that great distance to get here, they don't need anything from us.  An alien invasion?  For what?  They could easily tap an asteroid for any raw materials they'd need much as we may do someday soon.  
UFO - Unidentified Flying Object, not aliens, not weather, not sundogs. UNIDENTIFIED. We do not know what it is. Since Blue Book there have been a variable small number of sightings of aerial phenomena that could not be explained. What are they? I don't know, nor do a wide variety of experts.


Should they continue to be investigated? Absolutely. Should they be assigned to fringe science? NO. The studying and understanding of observed phenomenon is what science is all about.


Let's not yell and scream and shout at each other like a bunch of children.
How naive to think that we are the only ones out there. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it isn't there.
Colleen...

Allow me to ask you this: how mush hubris does it take to think that everything in the Universe revolves around the human species?  First, humans believe all of the heavens and the gods revolved around us, then we Westerners believed that all of the world revolves around us, now we believe we are the center of alien entertainment and delight.  


How self-centered and anthrocentric is that argument?  Is there anything that doesn't revolve around US?
my name is warren chamberlain i live in a little town in nj i took a pic of a silver thing that left a trail but it was like swerlling up an down and i took a pic of the craft do not know what it was but wish some one will look at in i live in keyport nj the police were called and they can get in touch with me
I really don't see how a cloud can appear to look metallic. In my lifetime, I've never seen anything that even approximates to a metallic object formed by a cloud. That explanation does not ring true. We also need to consider the possibility of intelligent life in our universe, much more advanced than ours. Remember, compared to other solar systems, ours is barely in a teenager. There are other planets and systems older than ours. I wonder if all of these skeptics even believe in God. I haven't seen God either, but I do believe he exists.
Wait a second, here.


By what logic or scientific principal is it acceptable to state that "Russia had a UFO at an airport that they never figured out, so what happened at O'Hare cannot be real."?


By what logic or scientific principal is it acceptable to state that "Gargantuan cloud formations moving at spectactularly slow speeds across mammoth distances and having beautiful shapes are interesting and unusual, so what people see among nearby clouds giving an impression of rapid speed and leaving behind spacial artifacts cannot be anything but a natural phenomenon."?


But let's go out on a limb here and accept the prevailing skeptical theories being used to dismiss this event: if it was truly an apparition of natural phenomenon, it happened at precisely the best place in the country to document it and close the issue formally. To wit, the doppler radar system right there on the airport prem would have easily seen such an energetic vortex event significant enough to rend clouds. It's called a "microburst". That's why that doppler radar is there, and that's what it detects, and that's what would have triggered alarms all over the FAA data gathering systems. But it didn't. Why not? Either because it was NOT an atmospheric event resulting in large windshears and pressure differentials, or the doppler radar at O'Hare is not working. Either way, the FAA has some 'splainin' to do.
I don't know what they are, but I doubt if 50 years of "sightings" are all explainable as weather phenomena. Somewhere along the line, something has to have actually flown.

It's interesting though, that I live in an urban neighborhood. Lots of big guns (many used to celebrate the New Year. I thought I was in IRAQ!!!).

I never heard anyone say they saw one here.
   Even though man doesn't have scientific proof that there are life forms in outer space, people should not be so alarmed when they see something that is is unexplainable by human understanding. After all, we put remote control robots on Mars, we put satellite dishes in orbit around the earth. We explore their world, they explore ours. Hmmm.      

Here's a message that came into one of my other mailboxes:

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Hello Mr. Boyle,

Regarding the latest UFO report at O'Hare:

For those of us that have been students of this phenomenon, this episode is nothing new.  There are thousands of these reports worldwide going back six decades.  The reasoning by Mr. Oberg is simply dismissive.  One can dismiss almost anything an individual can say.  One cannot dismiss pilot reports and/or credible witnesses, calling every single sighting a 'weather phenomenon' or some other type of natural anomaly.  

When a person truly starts examining the wealth of data collected on the subject of UFOs, you come away with more, rather than less, ability to see it as an undeniable phenomenon, albeit still indefinable.  

The problem is that the media and the mainstream science community has made a industry of debunking just about every sighting that occurs.  One has then has to come to the conclusion that perhaps this is a cover-up of some type after one reads the 'skeptics' arguments every time.  

There is no question there is no 'hard' data, or definitive proof.  But secondary, or 'soft' data, exists in abundance.

I find it amusing that the skeptics continue to cite an occasional blooper but totally dismissive of the really credible accounts.

Discussing this topic with several academics and scientists over the years, after reading voluminously on the subject, I am convinced we have a unverifiable phenomenon in our midst, that may affect humanity and our worldview.

I suggest that MSNBC take the lead in investigating this phenomenon further.  There is a huge story here waiting for further elucidation and given a serious look minus the giggle factor or the dismissive tones of intelligent human beings.   There are thousands of Americans and others worldwide still waiting for a serious look for a serious phenomenon.

Thanks for listening.
Rosanne Losee
Charlotte NC

Sky Gazers,

0k..you asked for old stories... When I was a kid on a bicycle about 45 yrs ago, I saw what looked like an orange or strawberry ice cream cone hovering in the sky.
It was a late afternoon with a clear sky, in Palo Alto, Ca. The object stayed still and there was no sound that I could hear. It appeared to be a few miles  northward at about "2 o'clock" (pilot lingo).

I watched it for about 30 seconds, trying to figure out what it was. It seemed too large to be anything I had seen in the sky before and the shape was not at all familiar, other than to say it looked like an ice cream cone. The "ice cream" looked like electric light and the "cone" looked to be just a neutral medium gray in color, without any noticeable shine or reflection.

As I watched and wondered, the object suddenly shot off in an easterly direction at what appeared to be a very high speed and just disappeared. It happened so quickly that it seemed like a magic trick. As a 10 yr. old boy, that sight made a lasting impression on me.

I think I had read about ufo's in comic books by that time, but "knew" that they were just kool stories that sometimes were made into space movies. It was probably '61 or '62 at the time. I know that I never really "wanted" to see a UFO, until I had seen 'Close Encounters'. But, alas...my only 'sighting' was on that late afternoon back in Palo Alto.

Anyone else seen any UFICC's (Unidentified Flying Ice Cream Cones)?


JD
Come on you guys. This was clearly a pair of paper plates left over from some kid's birthday party that got stuck together and then caught up in a high-altitude dust devil. But I'll always believe the best evidence for life beyond Earth is the simple fact that we're here. If we're here then it is a simple logical deduction that someone else must be on one of those zillions of life-friendly planets out there. Only arrogance would presume otherwise.
It is possible to believe in an almighty, and aliens. Why would any creator put all their eggs into 1 basket. Personally I have seen some things up in the sky that I can't firgure out. I just figure that when and if anything out there wants to meet us they will. In the mean time I have enough to deal with to worry about it. There is still enough wonder to keep me interested.

Another message from the other mailbox:

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I am Native American and have been told many stories – while sheepherding with my mother and father in law - of encountering “flying saucers”. They were younger of course but say that the saucers made no noise; but would hover around them as if they were studying them and were small. They said these saucers were literally in their faces. They would try to catch them and playfully chased them (but were described as being too fast), then the saucers would fly away. They have had more than several encounters. My father in law (now 68 years old) said he was sitting under a tree, saw a shadow in the hot summer sun on top of the tree he was under, thought that was strange because it was a perfect shape (oval). He crawled out from under the tree and saw a saucer floating over the tree, he came out and it took off, out of sight.

Being that I am Native American I too have seen questionable objects or light in the sky. I guess I see it more because I live in a wide open clear area. I have never said I don’t believe in UFO’s, but was curious at the same time. Until, one partly cloudy night my husband told me that if you shine a light into the sky, you are likely to get a response back. I didn’t know what he meant at the time but stood by while he showed me. He got his spotlight and shined it into the sky, on and off, on and off again. Then we waited and started getting a light shined back at us, on and off. This was the final straw, it was official I was a believer!

I still see “things” - bright fast moving lights that are one minute to the left, I blink and the they are to the right (especially late at night) if I so happen to be coming home late from town. But I guess you could say we are used to it now. I see it less now though, back in 1995/1996 I used to see it a lot more.

I believe we are being studied. I also believe aliens are big headed and scrawny because they have a lot of knowledge, but cannot fight ( I mean fist to fist fighting), this is why they are curious and need to come from their planet to ours to check us out. They have already figured out how to fly with out noise or pollution (exhaust); and know how to go from one universe to the next. We are barely figuring it out from here how to travel from one planet to another. They have more knowledge in this dept. They probably plan to take over our planet soon or when we ourselves destroy it with our exhaust fumes, etc. (killing our own earth).

-- Andrea

Sounds like a government conspiracy to me. In fact, all of the cheese whiz is missing from my pantry. I'm quite sure the two are linked. How can I enjoy my oreo's now without cheese whiz? I'll bet if a I can find a good attorney I can sue someone for this.
Some people see what they don't want to see, others want to see what they have already seen.  look straight into the eye to unveil the truth.  Believe in the impossible, because the impossible shall unveil the truth!


Educate yourself, tap into your inner self and keep an open mind that the impossible can become possible!  
Come on folks. Do you really think we are the only living beings in this universe?


I also think the "powers that be" are fully aware of their existence and they do not want to throw the world into a panic revealing this.


Greg Holizna
You know, I think people should start calling them "alien spaceships" if they think thats whats they are and others should call them Unidentified Flying Objects. It seems the first thought that comes to mind is aliens when you say UFO and people think your an idiot or you have to have some screws loose. People just can't have intelligent conversations about what they saw without some nut job OR close minded individual polluting the conversation with assumptions. I know what UFO means, do you? Its not a metaphoric question.
Well, if all of these sighting began in earnest about six decades ago, isn't it funny that it corresponds with the rise of jet aircraft and space craft?  Why is it preferable to believe in alien visitations over DOD prototype aircraft experiments?  Why is everything we cannot currently explain always relegated to either God or aliens?
 

Although I don't deny the existance of alien life or some God who is a part of the Universe, why does everything we can't explain attributed to one or the other?  Can't these things be explained logically through common experience?  Isn't it possible that the $140 toilet seats the DOD pays for each year is really money going into Top Secret/SCI projects which otherwise may not be approved by Congress for violation of treaties such as those banning the use of nuclear energy for advanced propulsion, etc?


It just seems odd to me that these tremendous number of sightings would be more attributable to alien visitors rather than human-designed and engineered crafts.  Sixty years of rocket propulsion, sixty years of sightings...


...does anyone else see a parallel?
This isn't the beginning. I have always felt that there is life out there other than ours. I just have always had this feeling. When you look at space and see all the stars...how can one even suggest we are alone? I believe most genuine sightings are covered up either by the government or other covert operations within our government. Sooner or later hiding it will be a moot point.
Does no one see the humor in an "Unidentified flying object" over an airport? I think it's hilarious
There are far too many feedbacks for what is a surprisingly silly story. True or not true, UFO or terrestrial, there are more notable and significant things out there. Get with it, folks!
I believe in God and also in UFOs.  On my way to lead a prayer group, at approximately 5:30 a.m.,at dawn, I saw one at a rural intersection hovering in the south east corner of that intersection.  It was about 300 feet in the air and circular.  I don't remember lights, but I do remember the attraction of a huge shadow.  Upon looking up I saw this, whatever, and even stopped through two stop lights, which is highly unusual for me, and watched it.  After about a minute it proceeded to the southwest and within three second was out of sight at the horizon.  Call it what you want. I've seen Stealth bombers and they did not move any where near as quickly as this object.


A Christian from WI
First, to ascribe H. Sapien "logic" or intention to that which may not be human is typical human hubris. Second, to claim there is no concrete evidence of visitation because you have no personal knowledge of such requires the Rumsfeldian reminder that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Third, if the official response looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and smells like a duck, it's probably a duck and cover...

I think it was a Sikorsky Cypher.
Okay, I admit it. I invaded O'Hare's airspace in my Warp 120 O-Ringed Saucer doing a Mach 5 spiral upright and was CAUGHT by a human doing so! I have big green eyes, pointy ears, a globular head and no belly button but to the FAA boys I appear as a long legged blonde with flaxen hair,big boobs and an infectious smile. So send out an A.P.B. and try and catch me if you can! You don't need your passport but if you want to meet me you better bring your Extraterrestrial  Express Card!

Sorry...I had to kid you all.

But an alien needs some entertianing besides vortexing around. U.W.O.
Unidentified Writing Object.

And yes...I'm starving.

The golden arches I'm seeing every half mile sort of scare the hell outta' me.  
I've seen two UFOs in my short time on this earth. they were both back in 96 and 97.we spotted it about a mile from our house and it was flying above the treetops  at about 60mph and then it was out of sight, we pull in our drive way and its back in front of us.  It was hovering about 40 feet off the ground and about 100 yards away from my front porch. We turned on the outside halogen light and it slowly and silently crept up to about 20 feet away and hovered 15 feet off the ground and didn't make a noise.We shut off the light and it stopped and just hovered, then as soon as we turn the light back on it crept up closer to about 10 feet we shut the light off it stopped. It hovered there for about 2 minutes. We had every light in our house shut off at this time. all of a sudden it was slowly backing up still hasnt made a noise and it started slowly assending up and than about 50 feet up in the air it was gone.

  The second one came and flew about 40 feet above a party with a huge bon fire. went back and forth 3 times and everyone was running like hell, except me i've seen this before. i watched it fly back and forth and then it zoomed into the great unknown.

I know there are a thousand explanations , but how about my explanation? if you see something 10 feet in front of you that is 30 feet in diameter and it is hovering 15 feet off the ground not moving a tree or a one dust cloud from my driveway and get curious and more curious and then runs away. The government can hide stuff that they do but they have to make up excuses for stuff they dont know.  i am a believer!!!  
maybe they were going to land-but got a good look at   the place and changed their minds.
A couple of years ago, I saw a UFO. It was indeed unidentified to me anyway. It was just a few minutes after the sun set and the light from its presence had succombed to darkness, however not pitch dark yet. An orange light was present over the top my neighbors house. This is due west. As I studied this light, attempting to find an expaination for it, the light moved straight up extremely fast. It appeared to make a tight circle, then lowered a little bit. Then it appeared to brighten, and the split into 2 seperate lights. Still orange. These lights, appearing to ne totally in sync, then made half circles away from the other, met again, then sped away, one northward, the other southward, totally disappearing. All of this happened within about 3 seconds. The reason I noticed this strange occurance is because I walk in this direction 3 to 4 times a week, as I have for the past 6 years. I always study the night sky when it is clear out. I have never seen anything like it before or since. This phenomonom was very much unidentified to me, therefore by my own standards, it was a UFO.
Major airports are the best place for us ET's to catch a jump...I drive my rental car to the airport like anyone else, (that way the men in Black Suits don't get wise when I don't come out)..

one there I was beamed up...since the cloud cover was so dense and pressure low, the extension of my trans-dem portal left the visible artifact (hovering disc below the clouds)...I only have a few moments to get into position, and then "zap" I'm outta there. Currently in Portland Or ... less chance of being noticed around here ;<)
I work on an USAF base and used to work with pilots from Vietnam and pilots of E-3's. An old boyfriend, a Colonel, flew on an E-3 in the 1980's. He told me alien craft flew beside them all the time, and the Vietnam pilots told me alien craft flew beside them in combat. I also heard this from my father who flew on aircraft in WWII.
John Doyle,


Weather Balloon.  Google images.
To put it simply: "If we are alone in the Universe, it sure seems like an awful waste of Space"
25 years ago my wife and I saw 3 glowing balls of gas drifting slowly in the sky over a freeway rest stop near Dunnigan, CA. They did not appear to be craft of any sort. They looked about 20 feet in diameter and about 100-200 feet above the ground.


The glowing balls of gas faded and disappeared as they traveled northward.


Although I've never seen a UFO other than the above, we shouldn't be too surprised if extraterrestrials do show up someday. After all, wasn't this planet colonized by extraterrestrials in the beginning...?
As someone who's researched UFOs for 28 years, my own opinion is that most (but not all) are terrestrial. The case that I consider authentically extraterrestrial is the Billy Meier case from Switzerland. I do tons of interviews on the case, attract attacks from skeptics and...in the end Meier's UFO photos (and other evidence) remain irreproducible and his prophecies (over the past 55 years) impeccably accurate.
Once again, the continuing sage of the dilemma of metaphysics to epistemology: your theories will determine your facts. If you believe in aliens visiting, gods creating, or the DOD secretly testing, then a whiff of water vapor can be enough to substantiate the theory that clouds your mind.
The term UFO literally means “Unidentified Flying Object”.  Anything that is in the sky that can not be explained can be considered a UFO.  It does not mean that they are from other planets, a test military base or some kid’s toy etc.  It simply means at the time of viewing the images are unknown and appear to be flying in the sky.  Truth be told that humans nor the collective intelligence of humans can explain everything even in this day and age.  No matter what source that causes these occurrences in the sky it does make me happy that there are still events that show in our own little blue planet that shows how much mystery there is left in this universe.  Various preset beliefs that humans have will cause people to see items that are not truly there or not to see items that re directly in front of them.  Only with open minds and yes even open spirits and hearts will we eventually learn more about these unexplained events.


If some of the things in the sky are probes or spacecraft from another planet I hope they do the following.  That is they don’t stop to interact with the humans on this planets until we mature. If they wish to study some of the many and amazing animals or other natures wonders on this planet then hey they should have fun. How arrogant and greedy are humans to think that everything must revolve around us.  From the time when humans thought the world was flat or that their country was the center of the planet or that the sun revolved around us.  It is utter arrogance to think that humans are ready to open a dialoged to people from another planet when we have yet to get along with our fellow humans, nature and our surroundings on this planet.  Humans can not get along with other humans on this planet without arguments, wars etc over such meaningless things as land, religious believes, or ideas when in the end the land and nature can easily kick us humans off the planet as it did the dinosaurs and other extinct mammals, reptiles etc. Humans should work to fix our own issues and become more in balance with nature; our fellow humans before we even consider what it would be like to find intelligent life out on other planets.


Thanks for reading and hope it makes you think.
TRACKBACK: CHICAGO - Federal officials say it was probably just some weird weather phenomenon, but a group of United Airlines employees swear they saw a mysterious, saucer-shaped craft hovering over O’Hare Airport last fall. The workers, some of them pilots, sai
I have read a little about UFOs ... exactly what they are I do not know. But why is the US government aka Area 51 trying to back-engineer them if they are ours? Bob Lazar's story seems to be credible enough. How about during World War 2 over Los Angeles. Known as the battle of Los Angeles when american anti air craft batterys opened up on a UFO. Picture taken by the Los Angeles times. And some on the ground were killed due to the ferocity of those shooting at it. The UFO by all reports just slowly flew away. Not to mention the one in Aurora Texas. I think it was April 17th 1897 when a flying craft crashed into a windmill. According to the news paper and eyewittness reports there was tons of a silver metal found at the crash site,one dead alien and some unknown writtings. These are just a few not to mention world wide reports on UFOs. Some may be real, some fake, some strange as with all things. Ever bother to check out the Majestic 12 documents and what they say about UFOs and what our government has been up to for some time? I think people can put their head in the sand or try to grasp and understand something that may be well beyond them. As the TV show used to say,"THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE".
There are over 100 billion galaxies that we have observed, each with over 100 billion stars in them. We can only detect the more massive planets due to resolution and parallax issues, but we are sure a vast majority of them have orbiting planets. I think the odds are pretty good that there is another planet that can support carbon-based life. If you believe in God, then who's to say we're his only "children". If you don't, then spontaneous combinations of amino acids would be possible on other planets, and they would evolve into beings who cause problems at O'Hare.
I think that if UFO's are real, that they are us. Scientists from our future come to study how we live, much like we study the pyramids.
There is a theory that if these are visitations, they are "extra-dimensional," not "extra-terrestrial." In other words, creatures or crafts pop into our dimension, then out again. Maybe the Earth is like a galactic "Burmuda Triangle." The poor aliens probably make mini-series about their experiences with us.
I beleive that if the Universe is as big as the "SMART PEOPLE" say it is then I believe that we would be kind of narrow minded to believe that we are alone. Too many people,whether they be professionals or military or ordinary , have said or seen similar episodes. What are we worried about? If they have been around for as long as we have made to believe, whats the problem? I think that governments are so concerned that "aliens or alien tech can do whatever they want whenever they want and we have no control or say about it" that it worries their sovereignty and control is being violated and they can do nothing about it.
I’ve always been interested in the subject of UFOs and I’ve read numerous books and articles about them. I’ve never witnessed one myself, but due to the caliber of the people described in these 3 books it’s difficult to dismiss their eyewitness accounts.  These can all be found at online booksellers.


“Firestorm” by Ann Druffel.  It’s a detailed biography of the late Dr. James E McDonald, an atmospheric physicist at the University of Arizona, Tucson, UFO witness and scientific investigator of the highest order. He was a well-respected scientist by his peers; probably the best investigator there ever was on the subject, but he was totally ignored or ridiculed by the general population, the Government, the military, Congress and those who refuse to examine his investigations based on their fear and stubborn belief that UFOs simply don’t exist. His family allowed the author access to his journals and research papers and his story is illuminating and troubling.  


“Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis” by Paul R. Hill, Richard M. Wood. Here’s a list of Hill’s credentials: (1936-1939) Professor of Aeronautics, Polytechnic College of Engineering, Oakland, California. (1939-1970) Employee of the Langley Research Center (LRC), Hampton, Virginia, under the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) and then for NASA in the following research divisions: Physical Research Division (PRD), Pilotless Aircraft Research Division (PARD), Applied Materials and Physics Division (AMPD). He doesn’t debate whether UFOs are real or not, nor their place of origin; he seems satisfied that they are genuine. His focus is on the design, functionality and possible propulsion systems of these craft and whether or not our accepted laws of physics would allow for such objects and help explain their erratic aeronautic behavior as described by witnesses?


“The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology” by Nick Cook. He’s an aviation reporter and editor at Jane's Defence Weekly, a defense industry trade journal. He reports on his investigation of anti-gravity research that was cut short at the Third Reich’s underground research facility as WW II winded down. Former Nazi rocket scientists were recruited by the USA to work on our space programs and along with his interviews with former aeronautical engineers he makes a compelling case that UFOs could be the result of covert research and technology by our best Aeronautics Companies.


As to God and UFOs - Since the first sentence in the Christian Bible’s Old Testament is “in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” I have always believed that it was possible He created “aliens” first, then us. Why not?  Then there’s Ezekiel 1: 4-25.  What was THAT, pray tell?  I try to maintain an open mind with a smattering of healthy skepticism.  Some people are more comfortable with ambiguity and enjoy the mystery of it all.
With all the Cell phone picture and Videos how is it we do not have an actuall photo of the event???????????
hey really boring the fact its the you all dont understand or what? i ve posted already the truth see above and again and again who we are ? you know better than anyone else ehehe see if new generation gonna be time travellers so are we control our reality ?? dont you get it in your mind ?? we are in the future ehehe if anyone could say in the future the impossible is possible .... so now all impossible already happened . do you get it now ?? not too questions please and find the truth on what humanity is before questioning stupid things
There's a great little book called "Flatland", written back it the 1880's; it's a novel of sorts, but it's written to explain mathematics and geometry. It's written from the perspective of a two-dimensional being (thus, "Flat"land) who discovers a third dimension. I believe that it was the French UFO researcher Jacques Vallee who postulated that these aerial objects might be phenomena from another dimension; imagine if a pencil were poked through "Flatland", all that would be seen would be an oval wall of sorts. I've begun to think that UFOs may be just this kind of event, though what it is and why it happens is anybody's guess -- could be natural, could be directed; the point is that three-dimensional beings are no more better equipped to understand upper dimensions (which DO exist, ask any physicist) than "Flatlanders" could understand us. It would explain a lot about UFOs, for when the mind is exposed to something it can't, and isn't *capable* of understanding, it translates it into something it *can* understand, whether it's flying saucers or angels or whatever. Don't get out the tin foil -- it's just an idea, but considering the wealth of eyewitnesses to *something* over the years, it's one that for some reason the scientific and media communities refuse to take seriously. I don't expect the media to ever take *anything* seriously again, but it would be nice if the scientists did.
Weather phenomenon my butt. I can't say what it was or even speculate on what it may have been. But what I do know is it wasn't strange weather or clouds doing weird things. I imagine whatever it was, and trust me... someone somewhere out there knows what "it" was, will get a good covering-up just like everything else in our wonderfoul country. Based on this known fact, I feel we all need to just get over it and focus on the job at hand, getting Bush out of office.


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