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High tech to the rescue

Posted: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:10 PM by Alan Boyle

Once again, high-tech types are joining the life-and-death search for snow-trapped travelers: Less than a week after the drama of the lost Kim family played out in southern Oregon, heat-seeking planes and phone-seeking gizmos are being employed to look for three mountain climbers missing on Mount Hood in the northern part of the state.

The last time anyone heard from the lost men was on Sunday, when veteran mountaineer Kelly James placed a cell phone call to his family and told them he was worried about the worsening weather conditions. Now James is thought to have sought shelter in a snow cave at about the 10,000-foot level of the 11,235-foot peak, while companion climbers Brian Hall and Jerry Cooke may have attempted a descent.

In cooperation with the authorities, T-Mobile has been "pinging" James' phone, and Hood River County Sheriff Joseph Wampler said that as of Tuesday, a confirming ping was still coming back. "The technology is still talking to the phone," Wampler told reporters.

Wampler said that technique can narrow James' location down to a level of a quarter-mile or so. Now North Carolina-based Iomax Management Group has brought in a phone-locating kit that can get much closer.

"Under ideal conditions, which we hope to be in up there, we're talking 10 or 20 meters," Iomax's president, Ron Howard, told me Wednesday. "If you look at what cell phone companies do for a living ... they have no reason to refine the technology to this degree."

Iomax's reason for refining the technology has to do with its government contracts. In fact, the same technology can locate the cell phones that bad guys use to detonate roadside bombs in Iraq, NBC's George Lewis reported from Oregon.

Howard didn't discuss that aspect of Iomax's work in detail, but he did say the Iomax kit should work even in Oregon's inclement weather, at distances of well over a mile - as long as the cell phone issuing the signal is on a line of sight from the detector. "If it's on, we should be able to find it," Howard said.

Time is of the essence, however: James doesn't have to be talking on the phone, but once the batteries run down, Iomax won't have anything to ping. That's why Iomax's team flew out from Florida and North Carolina just hours after Oregon authorities accepted their offer of assistance Tuesday night. They started their search efforts late Wednesday.

Colorado-based Aracar is also getting its search operation off the ground ... literally. Aracar specializes in search-and-rescue robots - the nonprofit organization's name is actually an acronym for the Alliance for Robot Assisted Crisis Assessment and Response. One of Aracar's founders, John Blitch, told me via cell phone that he and his team are getting their camera-equipped, remote-controlled robo-planes ready to look for the climbers' trail.

"We're getting ready to head up to the mountain," he said at midday Wednesday.

Aracar's unmanned aerial vehicles range in size from your typical radio-controlled airplanes to drones with a wingspan exceeding 3 feet. But even the RC-scale planes are packed with technology - including an autonomous guidance system that can take over if the plane loses contact with the remote operator.

The planes can be equipped to send back still imagery or real-time video, or even thermal imagery from a microbolometer. Such thermal images could identify the "plume" of heat rising from a warm body set against the colder background temperatures of snow and ice, Blitch said.

Blitch said he is a retired Special Forces colonel who has been involved in research and development as well as "intelligence collection for battlefield missions."

"Some of the systems that we have, have been used quite extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan," he said. "What I'm trying to do now is take that same technology and bring it into disaster response applications."

He was one of the founders of the Center for Robot Assisted Search and Rescue, which played a part in post-9/11 recovery, and he's also put search-and-rescue robots through their paces in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

High-tech is coming to the rescue amid the ruins, on the battlefield - heck, even on snowy roads. If Blitch and Howard have their way, similar high-tech tools - and the people who wield them - will help get those three stranded men off the mountain in Oregon.

"We almost had no choice but to send our team out there," Howard said.

Update for 12:35 p.m. ET Dec. 14: Oregon authorities say Aracar's team wasn't able to send out their unmanned planes on Wednesday, and the Iomax team is working away but has not detected a ping yet. Overnight, Iomax's Ron Howard sent out this follow-up statement:

"Our core customers are the U.S. and allied governments worldwide.  Our solutions have helped to resolve hundreds of cases overseas, including high-profile terrorists.  We rarely have the opportunity to put our equipment to work at home.

"We're happy that we have this opportunity to use our technology to help.  We hope and pray that we can work with the rest of the team here to quickly find these guys.

"If the climbers' cell phones are on, our equipment will more than likely find them.

"The equipment we're using here today is portable.  It can be hand-carried where it is needed. We also offer a new service for installation inside networks. If T-Mobile was using our Emergency Services Locator solution, the network could have located the hikers without us.

"This system is perfectly suited for backcountry cell phone networks or other high-risk areas where cellular networks are employed.  Networks serving areas like Mount Hood should consider installation of the Emergency Services Locator system of this kind.  If you become lost, and are carrying a cell phone from certain cellular providers, the Emergency Services Locator system will be able to locate you location within seconds.  To find out if your network technology is suited for our system, please contact us.  Our Web site is http://www.Iomax.net."

Update for 1:10 p.m. ET Dec. 14: Iomax's Ron Howard just sent this status report:

"The equipment is up and running at maximum power and has been since late last night. As of 10:00 a.m. PST, there is no response from our target phone, which is Miller's GSM Samsung flip phone. This could mean several things, good and bad. On the bright side, it means he is saving his battery strength for a more opportune time like a break in the weather.

"According to the intelligence we have been provided on site, our equipment is probing the proper side of the mountain where the climber was last located, which I think is the north side. Our equipment is emitting a continuous signal towards the last known location of his cell phone asking it to acknowledge receipt of that signal. We hope he has intentionally placed his phone in the off position.

"Worst case, and hopefully not the case here, his battery is dead and the phone will never be heard from again. Our guys will remain in place until they can get further up the mountain overland or in the air if the weather subsides. Currently it seems to us, Saturday is the day of reckoning for everyone involved. Our guys are currently co-located with the Aracar folks on the north face of the mountain.

"Interestingly, we have pretty well assessed the GSM (T-Mobile) network's ability to reliably talk to the phones which are located at altitude on Mount Hood. What we are discovering is, that around the 6,000 to 7,000-foot level, coverage is available, however predictably intermittent and unreliable. The signal strength where our guys are is bordering -100db.

"That is very, very weak and on the verge of becoming too weak for any two-way cellular communication to take place at all. Some calls still go through, some go through and are dropped, and most of the time they just don't get connected. Not knowing what the signal strength of the T-Mobile network is at higher altitudes, one can reasonably predict it will be significantly weaker than points further down the mountain, simply due to distance. This reinforces the fact that the network might only see the phone sporadically from here on out, or not at all. If the cell tower signal strength is as weak as it is, the signal from the handset to the tower will be several times weaker at this distance, very difficult for T-Mobile to receive and process."

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Its not fair to blame those 3 guys lost in the mountains. Thats like blaming the passengers of the Titanic for getting on a ship that didnt have enough lifeboats. Regardless of why they are there, they need help. This nation prides itself on helping people in need. Thats why it has become a national news story and the search will continue until they are found.
it is nice to see we live in a country with human kindness still around forgetting the cost. when a life is at risk it is threw GOD we care thanks to the teams helping out may GOD guide you to these men GOD is bigger than anything ..let his spirt be with them and bring them home. give peace to their familes.
I've lived in Oregon all my life close to this majestic breathtaking mountain. For those of us that are not mountain climers but have stood at the base of this mountain and looked up at this peak you cannot be anything but awstruck.I can understand the human nature to conquer but this is a story that's played out before many times with good and bad results.The devices like transponders that are now available to help climers and rescuers certainly should be used but lets just hope that some good will come of this like better ways of locating climers that are stranded. I salute all those involved and prayers to the families and the men lost on that magestic mountain.

I spent plenty of time in the Cascades when I lived in Washington, and I volunteer for my local search and rescue team in the Appalachian mountains.  I drop everything and go when the call comes in for a rescue, no matter the weather.  That said, it doesn't stop me from wondering why people do crazy things, like climb Hood light-and-fast in December and refuse to spend $5 on a PLB.  I can understand the first part, but not the second.

There is nothing wrong with voicing these concerns.  The rescue will go forward, but the truth does have to  stated: these men chose to risk their lives.  Now others are voluntarily risking their own lives to try to save them.  No one was forced to do anything.  It's a moral puzzle, and wondering about all sides of the issue is a natural human reaction.  There is also a valid question about who pays for others' mistakes.  Our team doesn't charge a penny, but the taxpayers will be footing a huge bill for the law enforcement involvement in this search, and a rational discussion of that is certainly appropriate.

I have all the doubts in the world, but I think the important thing is that I still put on my pack and go.  SAR teams are not made up of robots.

Just want to say that my prayers are with the three men and their families. God will clear the path that the rescue men need to get to the three men. They will be home for Christmas.
i think they will find them safe and sound and cold as --ll ... thats what we do
Thank goodness for the volunteers & those willing to give their time. My husband is there on his first rescue mission as part of the search & rescue team using the drones, and it's pretty scary to think of how large the mountain is. I hope a miracle pulls through & they find even one of the three men.
No sympathy here, I have climbed Mt. Hood 3 times now, there is no reason they should have assumed they could make it before the weather hit or for not taking the proper gear knowing there was a chance it would hit while they were up there.

I have read the majority of the comments and I am both shocked and appalled.  There are three men somewhere on that mountain and I'm asking God to have mercy on them and bring them back alive to their families.  If you have nothing encouraging to say, then it's best not to say anything.  I suggest we put our minds together and pray.  Why?  Because that is all we can do right now!

Reverend Kim Dixon,
New Jersey

I believe GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS, I PRAY for the 3 men on Mtn. hood and their familys. REMEMBER GOD KNOWS RIGHT WHERE THESE MEN ARE. LETS GET ON OUR KNEES AND PRAY! Jennifer

Attn: Jason - Sarasota

My son is going to be a Fire Fighter/EMT.  Do you think that the Search and Rescue teams want to go to work everyday and sit there?  I am not sure what your profession is, however, just like the Armed Forces, they know what they are doing as they chose this profession.  My son will fight fires, these men will always search and rescue the rest of us that have the means, the gumption and the nerve to live outside of the box.  Don't judge them, pray for them, ALL of them.

I think Adolfo in Houston is SPOT-ON ! Forgetabout the costs! Some things are priceless. Aren't we Americans? Isn't this what we do as a people...for anyone and everyone? It's Christmas, for the love of God, quit typing and get out there and DO SOMETHING!!!!!
Hind Sight,always 20/20..Thanks for the Volenteers,who ae up,along w/Sheriff,s office..get these guys out safe,then you can tell them all the good stuff they should have done!!...God speed climers..Rick C.

You know, here is the perfect example of Christmas Cheer.  Have we forgot that we are all one and that no matter what the circumstances come from, that we are still God's Children and that God loves us all. So if one makes a mistake and climbs a mountain or makes a wrong turn what ever it is, God would want us to love and respect all.

It would be the perfect gift to give these families for Christmas and I pray all three will survive and make home safe.  Just think if it was you, your son, husband or just a good friend. God be with them and may they follow that special star home tonight.

10,000 feet, a small plane is permitted to fly , both for rare air and the need for safety rules apply , transponder is the name of the game for thrills try the highest mountain in Denali National Park Alaska , I think anyone would want to protect the rescue teams.
I agree with the others, when it comes to climbing in the dead of winter you personally have to assume the worst can happen and leave no precaution undone, ie. tracking device or picking a better date to climb with a larger window of better weather. I've lived here in oregon all my life and hunt, fish and snowski in the cascades and still now you can get in trouble in a split sec. I don't understand though the comments that say its in there blood to climb, were's the common sense though when doing this in extreme weather? Is the thrill worth your own life?
[...] The greatest  device on the planet for hikers & campers is an ACR GPS Terra/AquaFix PLB aka Personal Locator Beacon. $600/3 people is rather cheap if something life threatening hits the fan. Don't leave home without  it. I carry one even on commercial flights.
No matter the outcome or the reasons why these guys took this on, future climbers should be required to carry PLB and all necessary equipment for the conditions and time of year before they leave. Maybe the local rangers can at least check them out. I've not been to Hood, but I'll assume they need some kind of permit to make an assent. I know we've needed that on past ones that are popular, like Whitney. Each time I hear these kinds of stories, the lyrics and tune to the song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", always comes to mind. ("T'was the Wich of November come stealing.")
This is a good link to the song and the story behind it:
http://www.chrischabot.com/ed_song.html.
Ed from prineville, craig from seattle, shaun from klamath falls, and Jane Doe......it is bad enough to even think thoughts like this is your head let alone vocalize and/or put them in print. [...] To all who are involved in this operation and to the men and their families:  may everyone come out healthy and safe.  The world's prayers are with you.
Lewis and Clark<risk takers>; Columbus <risk taker> or any other who has pushed the limit. Without risk takers we would still be stuck in the dark ages. So please send up your prayers for the safe return of these men and remember that each and every one of our everyday mundane lives is still full of RISKS.
so keep your finger pointing to yourself.
How sad there are people out there that believe it's okay if you die because you did something stupid. And how dare you speak so cruelly about people you do not know. Didn't your mother teach you "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"? I feel sad for those of you saying such things and the kind of lives you must have - lacking happiness and joy... Susan, KS
Also in Houston. This is why there is the word "accident." They happen all the time. Everyone's comments are right, up to a certain point. Let's tell the 3 climbers how dumb they were AFTER WE GET THEM OFF THE MOUNTAIN. In the mean time, help and love one another, everywhere. It won't hurt a bit!
Someone just sent me this blog. Is this really up for discussion? We HAVE to rescue these men. And, YES, every sportsman of any kind needs one of those devices. And, then the next thing we have to discuss is how much civil liberty we might be giving up to have our footsteps tracked everywhere we go.
These three men are precious lives we are talking about They are husbands, sons, uncles etc.....If they were our loved ones WHAT WOULD WE WANT DONE TO TRY TO SAVE THEIR LIVES? I pray and trust that things will go well for them and their families. Let us together pray for the teams involved in their rescue. This would truly be the Christmas spirit.
Marsha in Houston is right. Let's get out there and do something for anyone we know who might need anything. It's the thing we do best, especially at Christmas. Our hearts, prayers and thoughts are with those three. Stay strong!
I really hope the climbers are rescued. That hope only helps me feel better about the situation; all the hoping or wishing or praying in the world does nothing to change what happens in the natural world. The only one listening is your own mind. Robert Pirsig said it best: 'When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion'.
Ed, Shaun, and Jane Doe, what's the most exciting thing you have done lately? Sooner or later in life bad things befall us all whether it's being stuck on a mountain, hit head on the highway or being diagnosed with cancer. Things happen. We spend billions stupidly every year on far worse things than looking for stranded hikers. As for the rescuers out there risking their lives. That's what they train for and I bet each and every one of them loves what they do.
Ed from Texas. I pray for these men because every person alive makes mistakes. I also can see it now. When they get on the Opra show it is going to be one heck of a story! I hope they do get back safely so others can learn about their story.
I have been on many winter expeditions into the Boundary Waters and have been trapped by Blizzards and I know some of the challenges they face. I pray they stay calm and use common sense and wait out the weather so the rescuers can locate them.
To Brian, Kelly and Nikko....you are each part of all of us and our thoughts, and our love go out to you stronger than anything you can imagine...come home.
I am praying for these men and their families. I know through personal experience that God answers prayer, and many throughout the world are praying for the safe return of these men.God Bless You.
I have spent the last forty years responding as a volunteer rescuer. And in all those years I have witnessed a number of tragic decisions. Sometimes it is just bad luck, sometimes stupidity, sometimes too much faith in yourself. I am a firefighter, a deputy sherrif, a diver, caver, and rope technician. Our team responds to environments that have already injured or killed someone. But we go anyway. That's what we do !!!. Why? Because if it was us we would want someone to come after us. On one river trip, we came across a situation where a kayaker was trapped. He was not able to be pulled free in time, but we had our hands on him. He at least knew he was going home. Often we have had to retrieve the unfortunate who have tempted fate and lost. I have on some occasions nearly been one of those myself. Sometimes during a rescue attempt. But if you ask anyone who consistently enters these conditions they will almost unanimously acknowledge one fact. They would rather participate in life to its end, than to live by proxy. I would rather expire living life to its greatest, than to have its promise slowly dwindle and flicker out. Pray for these men. And while you are at it pray that someday you too will have the courage to live as they have so far. To know the sense of what it means to be alive. These brave men did not go into this effort without knowledge and preparation. And only those of you who have never had a wreck, a fire, an injury, or any other kind of accident can hope to criticize these unfortunate souls. And for the rest of us who have dedicated our lives to assisting them, we will lace up our boots and walk out into the night, searching. It is what we do.
The only other thing I thought of that they could potentially use for finding future missing people is the use of those military style ground sensors. The military has sensors that can detect a person walking over a pretty good distance. I remember being surprised by how far but I don't remember... maybe 1000 yards or so. If so, it might be possible to take some areas that people get frequently lost in and just implant a grid of such sensors in the ground. Add some computer magic and if anyone turns up missing just ask the computer where EVERYONE is. Such devices may sound a bit salty but High tech is often surprising in how much more simple it can be. I remember how an advanced gyro system for missiles was created just using ultra fine crystals that emitted a frequency when they bent. The system simply listed for that frequency and calculated the exact location. NO MOVING PARTS and far simpler than a spinning gyro.

I agree with Tod, is it really necessary to voice all the negative comments?  Don't you realize how cold and cruel you are sounding?  Did it not enter your minds that the family and friends of these three missing men might read your comments?  Ed, from Prineville, that is stupidity.

My thoughts and prayers are with these men, thier families and the rescue searchers.  This is indeed time for a Christmas miracle.

They made the decision to climb, the weather has not been in their favor. They will live with their decision, no matter the outcome. This counrty needs more people like the climbers, and rescue workers. Will ing to help out someone when the chips are down! That is what America is all about. Best to the families, keep the faith, and their are alot of American's praying for their safe return!
TOD YOU HAVE A GREAT SPIRIT YES I PRAY EVERY DAY FOR THE SAFE RETURN OF THE CLIMBERS AND UNSELFISH RESCUE TEAM HOW CAN ANY HUMAN WITH ANY FEELING WRITE SUCH INSENSITIVE COMMENTS ALL THE GLORY WILL BE TO GOD AND TRUST HE HAS THE CLIMBERS IN HIS HANDS AND WARM HEART
Our hopes and prayers are with the climbers and their families for a speedy rescue.Please support those mountain rescue volunteers who give of their time to help others, for the most part at their own expense.
Who is in everyone responding here we are talking about lives Gods children loving His creations lets not lose focus and pray the best gift we can give pray for all to return safely to their families that love them. It is noones place NOONE to pass judgement and to do so in a tragic event is heartless.
As a young man, I dared a two night “snow camp” adventure at the base of Mt. Hood, I must say, even equipped with “good” gear of the time…it had to be two of the most miserable nights I’ve ever had. The amount of time they have been there, even in shelter….I pray for their strength, it’s easy to lose in that condition. I fear the worst, fuel is heavy and bulky to carry and supplies were at best, “short” for a fast assent. I understand the passion of the quest, both adventurers and rescuers…….time is of the essence. Gods speed and grace to you all!
I think we all need to remember who is in charge here. God knows exacly what he is doing in good times and bad. If you don't trust in God then call the ACLU and tell them your problems with these hikers. I have hiked all around the Rocky Mountains my whole life and I would trust that if God was in control then my life is in his hands no matter the cost. These men have a great and loving understanding of the Lord and his mercy. We will all see his grace and glory in this matter and these men will live, again in life or with our Father and King.... AMEN Thank you Jesus Christ that these men know you as their Savior and God. Your will be done on this earth as it is in heaven and protect your sons that are lost and need saving. You are the only Savior and you guide our hands so we are rescued from death. All though they walk through the valley, they will not fear no evil. And in your name they are saved.....
I read all the comments, and cannot help but think that they are so reflective of our society. It helps renew my faith in humanity to see that the majority of people are still basically good and don't point out all the things these guys should/could/might have done, but rather pray for their survival. As in all aspects of life, there are a few cold, heartless, and selfish individuals that have lost part if not all of their humanity, and can only manage to critize. As one person pointed out....I just wonder how they would feel if it was THEIR loved one up there! Thank God that there are brave, giving, and noble souls that risk their lives for strangers, and they would do it even for those of you out there that have hearts and souls made of ice...I pray for those men up there...and for the lost souls that can only think of how "stupid" these SONS, FATHERS, HUSBANDS, BROTHERS, FRIENDS were!
There is a Chinese proverb that says 'It is better to live one day as a lion than a thousand days as a lamb'. These men are lions. They deserve our humble admiration and their families need our love and compassion.

M.Wheeler, 612PM, Radcliff,KY-- excellent sentiments.

..... to those naysayers and namecallers--shame on you.  For crying out loud the first poster in this thread personally knows one of these climbers. Do you not think the families may read some of your bile and negativism. So shut it down until this concludes or if you have any courage whatsoever, apolgize to the families right here.

An injury to one of the climbers slowed down their ascent and the weather unpredictably worsened.

These climbers are in a long line of explorers, testing the limits of the human spirit;  the SAR teams are there willingly and are eager to go. This is like a brotherhood. These rescuers are magnificent.

On a technical point, location is not much of an issue, as it was in the Kim case.  The cell phone commo shows SAR where they are within a few hundred yards and IOMAX might even nail it to a few meters.  With six SAR teams hopefully heading out tomorrow, they will be found.  

Godspeed, Portland Mountain Rescue. Positive energy going out to you grunts. Hang in there fellas, the best of the best are headed your way.

Risk, it's what drives some people- some live lives thinking of what they should have done while others say WOW- that was incredible! Life is no joke, NO ONE should judge anyone for what they do or don't do! As a former "Adrenalin Junky"- I am at a point in my life where I miss it and plan on doing it again! It's a passion..it's in the blood..it drives many. Let them do it! Don't condemn anyone for it. As we all live in a FREE Country- your even lucky to be able to write on a computer like you are. Travel overseas and see how others live...it'll make you appreciate everything here more! To all the rescuers, climbers and families on this mountain- my thoughts, prayers and "adrenalin" are with you! If you need anyone in the future to climb with....call me...I'll do anything for a fellow brother! My family and friends are praying for a safe outcome and keep doing what each of you love doing...James, Brian and Jerry are! GOD BLESS YOU GUYS AND SEE YOU SOON!
We will only approve comments that are directly related to the blog, use appropriate language and are not attacking the comments of others. This is printed at the end of all these messages. So who's monitoring this?? Not doing too good a job. I hope these men are luckier than most. I am sorry that their families have to read some of these ... messages. And they called these men stupid??? As far as who is going to pay for it. Heaven forbid anyone help a fellow man. Maybe a person should have to pay to write something on a site such as this, it might have helped the family or rescuers out if each person sent in $5.00. Would you pay to make a nasty comment? Some people might be STUPID enough to. Talk about kicking someone when their down.
Ive been on several mountains throughout the U.S. and most are of easy use,but the cascades are the most beautiful and also the most dangerous Ive ever seen.You are basically on your own and what moves you make at what time defines success.The weather can change at a moments notice and severly test your heart and ability to keep warm.Those who thrill seek or have winter hiking in their blood,accept the fact that they may become victim to their own mistakes or obstacles.Race drivers,astronauts ect the list goes on and all are willing to help if needed in crisis.Payment never comes into mind because that would be putting a price on a human being, which is unacceptable in our nation at least.I hope the best for those that go throughout those mountains and wish them safety as well as warmth because most are town and city dwellers that are not used to the cascades wild .Take a lesson from the wildlife there,even most shutdown for the winter.You boys need to come home.

There will much discussion about the costs of this rescue. Here's some research about rescue costs from a detailed 2005 study by The American Alpine Club.

The title is: "Climbing Rescues in America: Reality Does Not Support High-Risk, High-Cost Perception".

For you speed readers there is a nice summary on page 1, which is too long to paste here.

If you are thinking anything along the lines of "those crazy climbers, using my taxpayers $$$ to get rescued . . ." please take a few minutes to read the facts. (Any reporters who are reading this, please have a look as well. =^)

Link:
http://www.americanalpineclub.org/pdfs/MRreal.pdf

My best warm thoughts to our climber compadres who are hanging tight right now.

I am a Portland climber who has been up the routes these guys apparently took, and can say their previous experience makes them well qualified for this winter climb.  Also, winter is typically the safest time for the Mt. Hood North Face routes, as rockfall is minimized in this season.

did we do all we could for the kim family? I don't remember reading about all this high tech effort being employed for them.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the missing and their families. I pray they find them and am sure they will
I hope the advanced technology relied upon by the above mentioned companies can be better put to use atop "any" mountain here in the USA and elsewhere around the world to assist emergency personnel with the search efforts and the people stranded in adverse conditions (e.g. mountains, hurricane devastated islands in the Caribbean, Hawaiian Islands, dense forested areas and national parks, etc.) for legitimate emergency purposes. The potential for use and abuse of such technology could lead to the wrong kind of results, so proper regulatory oversight by the federal government (e.g. US Congress, FCC, ...) should be a high priority for the next US Congress in January 2007. Also, an emergency exit route should be in place before any mountaineer ascends a mountain to be sure everyone involved can be safe.


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