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Post-Apocalypto vision

Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:20 PM by Alan Boyle


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Warriors advance through the jungle in Mel Gibson's Maya movie "Apocalypto."

There’s plenty to argue about in Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" – and we’re not just talking about the actor/director’s bad behavior and controversial views. Anthropologists and modern-day Mayans are arguing about how much truth there is in Gibson’s gripping, violent tale of an ancient civilization on the brink.

The setting for Gibson's movie of a Mayan on the run is late Postclassic Maya society - or to be more precise, a branch of that society on the Yucatan Peninsula around the year 1510, just before the Spanish conquest began. It's a jungle adventure story that depicts brutal raids and human sacrifices - a gorefest that University of Miami anthropologist Traci Ardren called "sad and ultimately pornographic."

It's not that the film is a stinker: Even its harshest critics say it's well-done ... as a hyperviolent, totally fictional action movie. And they acknowledge that human sacrifice was part of the deal for the ancient Maya. But they're worried that Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" will give audiences a warped view of a culture that has suffered much over the past few hundred years.

"That movie gives you as much an idea of Maya civilization as ... I don't know, think of a really violent movie, an Oliver Stone movie, and that's supposed to give you an idea of the United States," said Elin Danien, a researcher at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology who wrote a critical review of the film. "Actually, it gives you less of an idea. He has no context, no explanation, no understanding. He simply creates violent scenes."

In a way, "Apocalypto" serves as a mirror for those familiar with Maya history, and reflects the debate over whether indigenous peoples were noble savages or just plain savages.

"The Maya created a civilization that survived for well over 1,000 years in an environment that was not the most hospitable," Danien told me. "Instead of choosing to create a movie that was nothing but violence, it would have been very interesting to have a movie that showed the drama and courage of a people who created a mathematical system, who created a complex religious pantheon, who created a superb writing system - all of this in what Western civiliization would consider an environment that couldn't possibly allow this."

That might make for a fine National Geographic documentary - for example, "Dawn of the Maya." But would that bring 'em in at the multiplex? On the other side of the debate is Richard Hansen, an anthropologist at Idaho State University who served as a consultant for "Apocalypto."

Hansen doesn't think the violence is that far over the top. "I think it's far less than 'Lord of the Rings,'" he told me half-jokingly, "and it's based on a great deal of reality."

He said the chronicles of Postclassic Maya society support the movie's depiction of sacrificial rites: "The decapitation is there, the skull racks are there, the bodies rolling down the steps are there," he said.

In fact, there are even grislier parts - such as the fact that the Maya flayed the skins of their sacrificial victims. "The priest would wear the skin, for crying out loud," Hansen said. "We toned it way down."

Of course, an anthropologist wouldn't have made the same movie that Gibson did. "Some of this was done to make a statement, and Mel had the artistic license to do so," Hansen said.

Gibson's grand theme is laid out at the movie's very beginning, with a quotation from philosopher Will Durant that "a great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." This echoes the view that the Maya were done in principally by their overconsumption of shrinking resources and the resulting fragmentation of their society - with an extra push from climatic shifts and, of course, the invading Spaniards.

Hansen said the statement was aimed at American society as well as the turmoil in Iraq: A civilization grows when it unites and makes common cause, and breaks into pieces when it turns inward and emphasizes its divisions - for example, black vs. white, or Sunni vs. Shiite vs. Kurd.

"When we fragment into linguistic or political or ethnic groups, we are doing nothing but fragmenting our society," Hansen said, "and fragmentation is the death knell, because it can lead to social and economic disintegration."

Danien totally disagrees with the view, seemingly implied by the movie's ending, that the Maya did themselves in and that the Spanish colonizers brought enlightenment. On that point, Gibson made a mistake of historic proportions, she said.

"His view that the Maya were corrupt from within and were saved by the Spaniards is nonsense," she said. "The Spaniards destroyed everything they encountered. Yes, it's true that the cities of the Peten, of what we call the Classic Maya period, were abandoned in the 10th century. But there were cities in the Yucatan, there were cities on the Pacific coast of Guatemala that were going full blast when the Spaniards arrived."

Hansen told me that Gibson was "well aware of what a disaster" the Spanish invasion of the 1500s was for Maya culture. "What he's saying is that the new beginning isn't necessarily favorable here," he said.

Within a century, the Maya were ravaged by the diseases brought over by the Europeans, and enslaved by the conquistadors. Hansen hinted that Gibson may well be planning to delve into that side of the story if "Apocalypto" does well at the box office.

"It's designed to have a sequel if it's successful," Hansen said.

But that verdict will have to wait. For now, Hansen is most concerned about what the modern-day descendants of the ancient Maya think of the movie - and the verdict so far is mixed at best.

"I'm a little apprehensive about this, to be honest about it," said Hansen, who is continuing to conduct research on ancient Maya civilization in Guatemala. "We don't really like all of our closets examined."

On the other hand, he said, "If we can't look at the reality of the history, then what good is the history?"

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First off, all you people that think you know exactly what the mayan culture was, tell me, were you there when all this happened?  Were you there to see them for what you say they were?  No?  I didn't think so.  Time travel and 500 year lifespans aren't here yet.

This is a movie... a movie.  Not a documentary on the Mayan culture or something along those lines.  If I wanted to see something about their contributions to mathematics, I'd watch the history channel.  This was a great 'movie' just like all his other 'movies'. 

Also, anyone who sits there and calls Mel an "anti-semite" or a racist should take a look in the mirror.  Everyone has done or said something at some point in their life that was.  Just because he is in the spotlight doesn't mean I want to hear your opinions about him.  Keep your views to yourself and shut up.

All in all, I think the movie was very well done--especially the costuming research. But did no one catch the symbolization of the felling of the Ceiba as they entered the city? However, they did play loose with the fear of the eclipse--they Maya would have known that was coming but then they needed someway for the hero to escape. The movie had me on my seat the entire time and was over with before I knew it. Yes, it was violent, but you have to view it with different cultural eyes, see it through a different society with different values at that time. And, at the same time, realize that people are people down to the depth--as people we can be kind and loving but we can also become corrupt and cruel through greed and fear.

Wouldn't it be ironic if future archeologists pointed back to Mel's Mayan Melodrama as evidence of some decadent American bloodlust heralding the fall-from-within of the once great ancient United States civilization? 

Makesyathink!  huh?  huh?  Mel's violence - unintended burlesque of its own message, or a clever warning?  Yeah...who's trapped in
a hall of mirrors now?

I just love the reverse delusional discrimination. Its O.K to paint the Spaniards as brutal, enslaving destructive conquerers but not to depict the Mayans as brutal, enslaving, human sacrficing, tortureing savages. Apparently the Mayans contibuted more to modern civilization than the Spaniards. I guess the same can be said for The Native Americans and the Anglo-Saxon Europeans. Progress steamrolls obsolete cultures. Should we celebrate progress or whine about the loss of stagnant and nolonger viable cultures?
In response to the person saying "keep your views to your self and shut up." You should probably take your own advice. Mel knew he was a celebrity and he knew his comments would have a hot bright spot light on them. He is an artist and an icon and his views are important if we are to correctly interpret the messages he puts in his movies. At the same time we should not read too much into the drunken angry insults hurled at a police officer as having a great depth of meaning. Plus this is America and wether or not you want to hear others opinions is irrelevant.
I loved the movie and feel that it's a pretty good depiction of certain aspects of a society. Should one think that Saving Private Ryan was indicative of western civilization during the "40"'s. Of course not. No more than this movie is indicative of Myan civilization during the 15 to 16 hundreds. It's just a portion of society revolving aroudn certain eventsw. That said, it was a very engorossing movie that kept me on the edge of my seat throughout.

First and foremost this was a movie created to be entertaining. It did it's job, i loved it. I thought it was well presented.

To all of you who keep posting that Mayan Mathamatical, astronomical and social structure was not fairly represented, need to realize a majority of us moviegoers are educated even fans of history that do know all the accomplishes of this amazing civilization. Moreover if you are a descendent of these people, as I am, you eat their history up. Many more people then you realize know all this going into this fictional movie.

I personally was stuck by a point i feel Mel was trying to convey. That the difference between the small society that Jaguar Paw and his tribe to what those touched by the larger city dwelling people is how each society was touched by 'Fear' and how they reacted to it. Also, I feel we were made to see what the captives saw, it might have been a enlightened civilization, but they only saw mistreatment, hordes of people and sacraficing that they didn't understand, at that point their interest in the mathamatical, astronomical, and social stucture to them wasn't something they were thinking of.

I enjoyed it and still know what a grand civilization they were before a majority of them were wiped out by disease and domination of a people they saw as barbarians.

Violent?, bloody?, Yes, but i had time to close my eyes, and i feel it was a necessary and made for a good movie.

Well... dear friends. I am really frantic with your comments. What reflects glorification or degradation of one of the most civilized and by many admired cultures of the Americas? As many well-studied people would agree, our Mayan civilization grew out too much too fast... powerful too. None of the comments take a really good look at the reality that Mayans lived under such circumstances as climate change and overpopulation.

It does reflect still today and Mel Gibson's attempt to portray the beginning of the END for the Mayans seems to attest that. I've been waiting most of my life for a movie, historically proven, of this great Civilization. I am sure a cartoon or a fictional movie would have satisfied the pundits. But let's get real here... it’s the message that lingers in our daily lives: Climate change and overpopulation. Is there any room here to breathe? Well done, aficionados.

Hi Allan,

Here's a piece I did back in 2001:

AN EXTREMELY LOW COST APPROACH
TO DEALING WITH THE NEO HAZARD

Hello Benny -

In recent weeks we have been greeted with repeated announcements of the reduction in funds available to NEO programs, as governments whose revenues are coming under stress due to the economic slowdown seek to economize. In view of these developments, which trend is likely to continue for at least the next couple of years, perhaps it is time to re-consider the use of the ancient Mayan technique for dealing with the hazard of asteroid and comet impact, specifically that of human sacrifice.

Now many in the scientific community may scoff at the idea and dismiss it out of hand, but as the Mayan priests pointed out, once they began human sacrifice, they were never again pounded by the sky gods. So by inductive demonstration, the technique appears to work. It has the further advantage of being an extremely low cost scheme to put into operation, as it requires no payment for any telescopes, electronic devices, computers, or staff, and even less paynment for the bureaucrats who manage these programs.

Of course, one does run into the problem of obtaining human sacrificial victims. While the Mayan resolved this problem by sacrificing their unwanted, literally their poor bastards, given the current economic conditions and the prevalence of extra-marital sex, such a plan may not gain wide public support today. But perhaps a ready solution to this problem may lie immediately at hand, specifically, in the use of lawyers as human sacrificial victims.

To my knowledge I do not believe that anyone in the NEO community has ever previously considered the use of lawyers for this purpose. What advantages does the use of lawyers as human sacrificial victims bring, aside from the fact that there appears to be an over-abundant supply of them?

Well, first off, they seem to be universally despised, and this seems to be true in every nation. Given the international scope of the NEO effort, it is nice to find a common point about which the ciizens of most nations can agree.

Second, lawyers could easily be captured for this purpose by the simple technique of placing a newspaper advertisement seeking an attourney for a lawsuit against a wealthy corporation. Once obtained, my understanding is that lawyers may usually be sedated by the administration of flavored alcoholic beverages.

Of course, one problem with the plan may lie in ripping their beating hearts out out of their living bodies, as it is widely reported that lawyers have no hearts. On the other hand, it is also widely reported that lawyers have no feelings, and this may make the entire process somewhat easier to accomplish, in the case that lawyers can indeed be found who have hearts.

In the case where it does turn out that lawyers indeed do not have hearts, then that does not necessarily mean that the scheme of using human sacrifice to fend off the next asteroid or comet impact must be abandoned. It is still possible that the scheme could be realized by the use of government bureaucrats instead.

Yours in science,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas

I was a history major as an undergraduate and I did some studies focused on Meso America and the Classical period. There are several parts of the movie that are historically inaccurate and depict the Mayan culture in a way that is hardly accurate. I sat through the movie commenting on the fictional parts. Still, you have to remember that it is just a movie! It was not meant to be historically accurate but rather entertaining. If documentaries were making as much money as box office hits, then maybe Mel would make one of those. It is unfortunate that many people will base their knowledge of Mayan civilization on 2.5 hours of images instead of a few hundred pages of literature. Still, anyone with common sense knows better. Foolish Americans are so wrapped up in violence and racism that we fail to focus on the truly intriging aspects of Mayan society. Their completely phenomenal grasp of time and the calendar. The underlying themes of fear and loathing. The strength of the native women. Pyramids in separate societies that have no contact at all. The native scriptures that predict the end of the world being marked by the coming of white men (the fact that the coming of white men was the protagonist's saving grace is ridiculously paradoxical). White men (seeking slaves, resources and riches) condemning the natives as savages and then slaughtering the better part of the population with war and disease. The truth is that people have always been and will always be racist. So, let's shift the focus because there is so much more to be examined here.
My speciality is in Classical and Medieval history. These discussions make me wonder why everyone is so obssessed with the historical accurracy of Apocalypto (which I thought was great), when there was no furor and outcry over the many, many egregious and systemic historical errors in movies like Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven. I enjoyed those movies too, but anyone going to them for actual information about ancient Rome or medieval Europe and Near East would be an idiot.
maybe forget the historical setting for a moment and just focus on one man's journey to the discovery of peace and strength within himself.the civilization itself was fearful, the people, the warriors, the chiefs. jaguar paw's father said not to fear; jaguar paw did not understand that at first; but through adversity and trials, he came to realize the meaning of his father's statement and to discover the strength within himself. he persevered and believed in his heritage and his present and his future. "no weapon formed aganist you shall prosper" Isaiah 54:17. this is afterall the journey of all men when faced with adversity whether Mayan or American...to discover the strength within one's self and to persevere the course he has to follow.Great movie!
Whoever boycotts this movie because of Mel Gibson’s anti-Semitic statements is most likely a hypocrite! We have all made statements or have taken actions that do not truly display our heartfelt feelings. Why do so many people walk the Earth attempting make themselves out to be all knowing and without flaw. Mel Gibson made mistakes but this does not take away from his talent/skill as a writer or director. He did not approach this film ignorantly. He did his research and worked with a well know anthropologist to create a film based on facts or logical conclusions. A reasonable person should only expect a level of fiction for the sake of entertainment. I look forward to watching this film.
Apocalypto was a great entertaining movie, hence, a semi-fictional movie. Half-real because as a full-blooded member of the Pocomam (Maya) of El Salvador, captives as well as the general public embraced death whent it came to sacrifice and did not whine. Customs are based on relativism not absolute truth. Yes, we were cruel and cruelest to the point of boiling, though not to the point of downright genocide. I saw the movie in support of Mel's charitable act of helping out my northern Mayan brothers in Mexico as well as my Native American brothers in the U.S.. It's historical inaccuracies and personal shortcoming were not important. Overall the movie should be oscar caliber inspite of the unknown cast of the film.
It is a great movie. The terrible violent people of Christian and European ancestry are shown how a truly godless society behaved. The Maya were much worse. Thank You God for Cortez! Cortez used the eaten, victims of Aztec cannibalism, to defeat the eaters, that would be the cannibalistic Aztecs. To defeat a city state of 100 thousand with 300 men. The Native American Society was grateful and was able to develop in humanity as well as in science since their friend Cortez had come. He was not aware of the diseases he brought to these primitive peoples. He, however, brought Christianity and morality to a lost meaningless society.
Clayton is Politically motivated and is one of those people that is aiding the rest of the country in condeming the European Christian heritage of our country. Cortez conqouered the Aztec empire with 300 men. He had help. He did not bring war to these people he was responsible for stopping the thousands of contiuous years of war that these people had subjected themselves to in a disorganized metalic-less society (they were fancy cavemen). Mel got it right.
Lets go back to the pre-Christian rules. Cannibalism is OK Even the Egyptians, Romans and Greeks (civilizations older than the Mayan's) gawked at. Cutting that beating heart out of a live person. Teaching the Natives a belief system that they believed you needed to experience the after life in was a good thing. Things in America were much better after Columbus.

Oh, to hear the bleating of the sheep. This movie was too violent! There was too much nudity! The Mayans were a peaceful people who only did what they had to do in order to survive!

Horse hockey!

Central American cultures practiced human sacrifice, from the Toltecs, to the Aztecs, to the Incas, to the Mayans. Sorry, but that's just the way it was. The Mayans may not have been a bloodthirsty as, say, the Aztecs, but rest assured, they did their part.

As for the graphic displays of violence, I'd wager that the majority of you have never been involved in anything worse than a schoolyard altercation. Welcome to the real world. Weapons, particularly those with pointy ends and shard edges are designed to hurt people. When Jaguar Paw strikes his nemesis with the war club, he isn't giving him a love tap or challenging him to a duel; he's trying to kill him. Life or death combat is bloody. When you cut the beating heart from someone's chest, it's bloody! Deal with it!

In the course of the film, I saw nothing resembling blatant pornography, so I'll dismiss that claim out of hand. In an era before mass manufacturing in a largely tropical climate, people did not wear a lot of clothes. It never ceases to amaze me, the number of people who object to social nudity. Get over yourselves!

Another thing that I think no one has considered; were the attackers also Mayan, or might they have been Aztec? I believe that where our hero was Mayan, his aggressors were Aztec warriors. This might serve to satisfy those who proclaim that the Mayans were not as bloodthirsty as depicted.

Overall, I thought it was a good film. Not great, perhaps, but certainly worth the money I paid to see it (which is more than I can say for some of Hollywood's recent releases). The only complaint I have was the anachronism. I don't think the Mayans used the f-word.

I think that "John, Ocean Springs, MS" comment is to the point - but I think that Mesoamerican cultures had some alternative to the "f-word" after seeing the grafetti images drawn on walls within the underground passages of Tikal, Palenque and Uxmal (perhaps Mr. Gibson just used it to "snap" the viewer into his/her own timeline). I think John's comment regarding the Aztec aggressor is interesting, because one of the "flaws" I saw in this film was the "emperor" on the temple with his elaborate pheasant-feathered headress - clearly more Aztec (as history "tells" us) than Mayan, while the population in the temple complex has the Mayan "persona" depicted on frescos, pottery and stele. For what ever faults this movie may have, it is worth seeing because of its profound visual snapshot of the class struggles that mesh at the point of cultural confrontation and "advancement".
By producing this film (accuracy aside) Gibson has given the Mayan a vote of recognition in this lopsided ball of muck called human civilation. If the indignant protests of the affected and/or unaffected (but nevertheless insulted) should lead to a closer and more accurate study of this ancient civilation then I say "Viva Gibson!". How else can a sub-culture rise above its externally created niche in society? It must first be recognized, acknowledged and then accepted by the neighborhood before it can begin the long climb toward the top of the heap as did the Persians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Scots, British and Americans. Gibson may seem to be eccentric (cud be) but I think he is a little deeper than first appearances seem to indicate. Let's see, time will tell.

The movie Apocalypto was a great action movie, nothing more.

It is shameful to know how many americans think christianity was the answer to humanity's problems. That this country was based on christian ideals or greek democracy.Our democratic principles resemble more that of the six leagues of the Iroquois. (i.e., "It would be a very strange thing if Six Nations of Ignorant Savages should be capable of forming a Scheme for such an Union and be able to execute it in such a manner, as that it has subsisted Ages, and appears indissoluble, and yet a like Union should be impracticable for ten or a dozen English colonies." -- Benjamin Franklin to James Parker, 1751)

Second, I would like to point out that Cortez was as savage as our christian President Bush, sending kids to their inpending doom. That we were fancy caveman, not!.Here is something to consider:

Fiction: Europeans "discovered" scientific knowledge, but American Indians "stumbled upon" it – they didn’t know what they were doing.

Fact: All scientific knowledge comes from a process of trial and error – a messy guessing game that involves many false starts and much stumbling. Scientists first make an educated guess based on their observations. Then they test it and carefully observe the results to see if the guess was correct. If it wasn’t, they guess again. The dependency of this process led Albert Einstein to say, "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?"

Pre-contact American Indians used trial and error, carefully observing the results of these trials. Three pieces of evidence, selected from many, are:

- Indians in the North American Northeast used foxglove (Digitalis purpurea) to treat heart problems. They administered it with extreme care since high doses were needed and the plant is highly toxic.

- Manioc, a staple food crop of Mesoamerican, Circum-Caribbean and South American Tropical forest peoples, is poisonous in its natural state. Four to five thousand years ago indigenous people discovered a process to detoxify the plant and began cultivating it.

- Indigenous people of Mesoamerica invented a four-step process to cure vanilla, transforming it into a flavoring ingredient. Vanilla processing plants were not established in Europe until the 1700s because Europeans couldn’t figure out the indigenous process.

Also, that we were novices compared to the egyptians and greeks, not!, for my mayan ancestors were noticeable mathmeticians, astronomers, engineers, scientist, and philosophers. There is no oral or written history about us crossing a bridge, for we were independent on intuition, not someone elses as eurocentric and afrocentric thought prescribe. Simply, it is manifest destiny and self fulfilling prophesy rolled in to one. It astonishes me how academia will twist history and romanticize greco-roman culture.  

"Danien totally disagrees with the view, seemingly implied by the movie's ending, that the Maya did themselves in and that the Spanish colonizers brought enlightenment. On that point, Gibson made a mistake of historic proportions, she said.

" 'His view that the Maya were corrupt from within and were saved by the Spaniards is nonsense,' she said."

I'm confused. How does the movie portray that the Spanish "saved" the Mayans? It says the exact opposite. The little girl recites a prophecy that  states that those the Jaguar leads the warriors to will destroy their world. So I don't know where the idea that the Spanish brought "enlightenment" can ever be understood.

And as far as it being racist:

Anyone who walks out of a movie theater under the impression that the Mayans are a lesser civilization are just plain stupid, and that is their problem. The movie is a story. It's a story told through the point of view of a prisoner of the Mayans. Of course it's going to be negative. I think most audiences understand that. Gladiator negatively depicts Rome, despite the fact that many democratic ideas emerged, in the same manner.

If you want "a movie that showed the drama and courage of a people who created a mathematical system" then make your own. That was not the intent of the movie and therefore you cannot criticize it on those grounds.

I think, despite its flaws, it is a great movie that reveals many similiarities between all ancient empires.

PS. for those of you who praise cortez, give me a break. Praise him because Christianity in history has been any less violent? Crusades? And I personally left the movie with the idea that the Mayans must have had a different perception of life than we do today. I am under the impression that they considered that time in there life as just a stepping stone to something greater, so death wasn't a catastrophe, just a step. Open your minds......

It would be interesting to see a film like this, created by an idiot like Gibson living in the future (maybe in 2000 years) stressing certain aspects of the present Western Civilization. Certainly that hypothetical idiot eager to please the audience thirsty to have their lives amused with some obscenity will have lots of material from the current civilized reality we live in now.

In fact I can see how a film like this can encourage many Westerners to get more convinced than ever that after all mankind has gone "forward" and after all this civilization is the best possible ever. Good for them.  

As for what they know or understand about any other civilization apart from the glorious Western thing, they do not know nor understand more than their ancestors who took the serious task to get those savages civilised (who cares if they were noble or plain...)
Sure, Mr. Mel Gibson gets drunk now and then, and says some bad things sometimes. However, Mr. Gibson is a genius when making a movie, a genuine genius. You darn right I like his movies!!! I'll bet some people who hate Mr. Gibson are jealous.
I am not a scholar of Mayan history, nor do I know much about their rise and fall.  However, I know films and I understand art.  Critics do not see Mel Gibson for his art at all!  The last five minutes as you watch the Spanish come in, there is no sense that Mel is leaving you with hope for the Mayans, hope for a faith that they would push on them!  He is depicting their end.  Their ultimate destruction by the Spanish!

 There is a reason that Jaguar Paw does not want to go to them.  Mayan culture was not bashed completely in this film.  It was depicted in many ways as it was!  Just as Anglo-Saxon white culture has to look at its history with shame over the way it treated African-American black culture, and the way Germans hold Adolf Hitler in their history, so too does the Mayan culture have its past, its evils.  

Jaguar Paw and his community balance the mayan depiction, showing the honesty, the love, the beliefs...there is just as much beauty!  I don't understand why everyone has to make this such a controversy!  Enjoy the beauty of Mel's magnificent and incredible vision!
the so called "enlightened" christians fathers etc. destroyed thousands of documents and "scriptures" due to the fact that they were considered "of the devil" so lots of the true history has been lost of what these cultures really were!!
I watched this movie for the first time last night. It was like any movie; entertaining! Mel Gibson, I believe gave us a product. Whether this product is accurate or not I don't really believe is the point. I think the point is whether it met its entertainment worth. Did you enjoy the movie? Great! Did you not enjoy the movie? We'll that's ok as well. It just wasn't for you. Go see a movie that you will enjoy. I don't think that a talking mouse is accurate either, but a lot of us have come to love that little guy! I know Minnie did!
I finally got around to watching Apocalypto last night.   As an ancient history teacher, I immediately noticed several historical inaccuracies, however, the story ultimately captured me.  Looking at the story through the lens of myth and ritual masculine initiation, it was very powerful.

Jaguar Paw, the Mayan hero, is taken against his will from the wildness of his jungle home, by an invading horde, and sets out on a forced journey to be sacrificed.  One by one, the men chosen for the ritual Mayan sacrifice are dragged through a corrupt and chaotic Yucatan city.  They are marched to the top of the pyramid and their hearts are cut out and offered up to the Mayan gods.  

Civilization does this to the masculine soul, doesn't it?  It civilizes a man and in essence, rips his heart out.  Just like Jaguar Paw, we need to risk the pain, the wounds, and death to flee the things in life that kill our hearts.  His heart was in the deep forest, his heart was with his wife and sons.  The journey revealed the true meaning of his name, Jaguar Paw.  Though dead, he united with his father in spirit and became one with the wild.  The symbols and story were very powerful and bore real substance.

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they died out because there was a massive drought!!!!
Just to be politically correct, Mael should've credited the savage Mayas as
the first to do open heart surgery! After all the distortion and BS about the "noble" American indian with their values of common property, conservation, and wholesale suffering at the hands of invading whites,
we finally get to see the horror and gore that occur in totalitarian regimes of any cultures-the PÇ critics simply don;t get it that the Spanish didn;t invent torture, abuse, slavery,etc. and their Hollywood
ultra liberal propagandist never seem bothered by the facts when they portray their own PC values as the truth-but let someone like Gibson dare to depict that this civilization had indeed decayed from within BEFORE the Spanish arrived-and all these PC hypocrites can do is protest. In fact this movie depicted the nobleness of the hero, rural
native against the excess of the Mayan regime; it depicted the other causes of demise-famine, tyranical political and religious manipulation  and the arrival of the Spaniards simply introducing beginning another era.
In regards to the comments about the lack of mathematical development and the greatness of a civilization, I ask if you make this comment on every movie, or if you just see racism because it's not about white people.  Take Gangs of New York for example.  It didn't have anything about the 1st subway system in the US, and didn't even mention Abraham Lincoln or his greatness even though it took place during the Civil War.  The only Irish people were gang members, and all the politicians were corrupt.  But, the movie wasn't about that.  It's about a small portion of that.  There actually was a gang problem then, and there still is today, and the movie was presented as historical fiction.  Did you bash this movie too?  Did you bash Star Wars for giving NASA a bad name, in that it suggested space flight will just spread violence?  Was the movie Cast Away an attack on FedEx?  Of course not, you're just being rediculous.


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