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Another Egyptian mystery

Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:45 PM by Alan Boyle

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into Egypt's Valley of the Kings, another ancient puzzle has popped up on the radar screen - literally.

The Amarna Royal Tombs Project says radar readings show what could be another 3,500-year-old chamber from the days of Akhenaten and Tutankhamun, not far from the recently explored KV63 chamber.

Is it "a find of the greatest possible significance," as the project hopes?


© Amarna Royal Tombs Project
Radar readings show the
KV64 anomaly, spotted in
a 2000 survey.

The newly publicized "anomaly," dubbed KV 64, appears to be a shaft leading deep underground, according to reports published by the Valley of the Kings Foundation and Archaeology magazine. A similar signature was seen in the strange case of KV63 - which turned out to be a storage chamber for mummification supplies, perhaps converted from an intended royal tomb.

The prospect of finding another tomb raises hopes anew that the mortal remains of well-known personages from Egypt's pharaonic heyday may yet turn up: for example, Nefertiti, the fabled wife of Akhenaten (although some think Nefertiti has already been found).

Nicholas Reeves, project director for the Amarna Royal Tombs Project, theorizes that the royal remains associated with Akhenaten's family were relocated from the controversial pharaoh's home base in Amarna to the Valley of the Kings - and that KV63 and KV64 could have figured in that relocation.

Reeves told Archaeology magazine that he was motivated to publicize the data about KV64 because of the buzz over KV63:

"It was clearly only a matter of time before the hunt was on in earnest for the further tomb which that deposit evidently signaled. It was becoming apparent to several observers that KV63 is to the Valley's next undiscovered tomb what the KV54 embalming cache was to the tomb of Tutankhamun. My principal fear was the impact that realization would have on the surrounding, less glamorous and certainly more vulnerable archaeology of the site: I don't want to see it damaged in a random, aimless hunt for more tombs. Of course I'm not against finding new tombs - how could I be? - but the work has to be done in a controlled fashion. I want to remove the element of chance, to focus any search. Public disclosure will hopefully do just that - point the way and reduce the danger and amount of collateral damage. I hope, too, it will provide a breathing space for archaeology, time for some sort of considered excavation procedure to be formulated for dealing with such a tomb by the wider international archaeological community - this is after all a World Heritage Site - and set in place by the Supreme Council of Antiquities."

He called on his fellow archaeologists to come up with a "formal protocol for excavators on how to deal with what might turn up" - rather than reverting to the dig-happy derring-do that held sway in the days when King Tut's tomb was discovered. Nowadays the Egyptian authorities seem to have the Valley of the Kings well under control, but Reeves argues that the promise of discoveries on the scale of Tut's tomb could bring back those bad old days.

Reeves is reading a lot into a blip on the radar screen. Will this generate an earthshaking find, or contentiousness reminiscent of the brouhaha surrounding the Bosnian "pyramid"? Stay tuned - and as always, feel free to leave your comments.

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The landmark of the pyramid in Egypt is traces of living human kind mastering our creator's original universal gifts of life which was lost with time on planet earth.
The Hanging Garden of Babylon and the Colosseum of Rome exposed the traces on the losses of our creator's universal gifts of life for the survival of living human kind on planet earth.
Decoded from the missing x-files.w
Here's another Egyptian mystery:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&
ll=28.353942,33.025932&
spn=0.088223,0.125141&t=k&om=1


When I found this a few months back, there was only one mystery light.  Now there are two, but you can also see them in much higher resolution.  They are visible from about 100 miles up too.



Thats either smoke or dust.
In regards to an Archeaological Protocol.  I myself would institute the "AESOP" Protocol: (which I made up all by myself :)

A)nalyze the Data, record facts, prepare for excavation, gather experienced professionals.

E)ducate all individuals involved on the rules, regulations, and policy and consequences of not following those procedures when working on, around, or at the site.

S)ecurity.  Employ security specialists to monitor, record, and set up a safety perimiter around the area.  No one goes in, or out without clearance.

O)perations.  Set up a central base of operations where all the artifacts found can be taken, stored, analyzed, and catalogged with a high level of security.

P)ublish and publicise all significant findings in a journal to benefit the truth and understanding of ancient artifacts, science, and culture.  Make this information available to the public, news media, and scientific communities through a website (specifically designed for research on ancient artifacts).

Anyhow.. that's my rough draft idea on how to handle the situation.  Thanks for reading.

~ OPM
Those are quarries, the dust is following the prevailing winds. Not much of a mystery.
The issue of a proper protocol for archaeological treasures is complicated.  My biggest passion regarding archaeology is ancient texts.  On one hand, we are in a race against time to find and preserve these things.  Hany many volumes are missing from the Nag Hammadi library because they were used as fuel for an old lady's cooking fire?  On the other hand, putting them in a museum isn't always the solution. How many treasures were irretrievably lost when Baghdad's meseum fell into the hands of looters?  Sometimes the safest place for ancient things is in the ground where they were left by their makers.

Considering current state of the art imaging technology, what I'd like to see is an immediate and MINUTE visual record made of every artifact as it comes out of the ground.  If the clay tablet gets lost, it's too bad but not THAT bad because we have a legible image of it that can be distributed to scholars everywhere.
TO OPM
Pleas add to your P)reserve and prottect objects found to as near the state found after not having outside influences in century
mummies are cool.
Do not open the tomb! I am from the future here to warn you about the hell your about to unleash on to this world.
more discoveries await...try tut's tomb
http://cognitivelabs.com/
games_pharaohs_Tomb.htm
"Egyptian Mystery" light looks like a really big spotlight-type beam going through a little atmospheric dust.  Probably the Egyptian version of NORAD on the lookout for hostile flying carpets.
limestone or gypsum quarrys with the dust being carried by the prevailing winds. This is evident by zooming in along the unpaved road leading to the right of the uppermost quarry as dust from the jostled trucks has settled in the same general direction giving the road a feathered look.
any mysteries that answer questions about our "human" past can only help answer questions of the future.
The fact that we are still interested in desecrating the tombs of someone's ancestors is an ample indication of the devolution of humanity in the colonial era.

Do the colonial powers have no shame?
Steve is not here from the future. If he were he would have brought information on gas alternatives to prevent the hell being unleashed at this time. Unearth the site and add peices to our puzzle of understanding our past.
It will take the history of the ages to enlighten us now in the present, so our questions in the future will be more easily answered..
On his website Nicholas Reeves says the he was prompted to reveal the sites location after what happened at KV-63 where the University of Memphis team apprently did not arrange to have conservators onsite until 10 days after the tomb opening. This may have been due in part to infighting between Doctor Otto Schaden, head if the expedition in Egypt and the department head back at the University in Memphis. I think the SCA should make it a requirement that any group digging in the valley must have qualified conservationists on staff.
It will be just another pile of junk collected and stuffed into a museum to rot or be stolen.Please stop robbing graves.
Since when is "nowadays" a word to be put in print? Did they find any "whatnots" in the tombs?
I need some information on who I should inform about a tomb my father had discovered back in 1968 while doing research on The Valley of the Kings. Before passing away in January of this year, my father had disclosed information to my family and I about his discovery. He also stated in order to find this tomb, one must go to the far end of the valley and look for a mountain that resembles a dog with pointy ears. Once found a person must climb about 3/4's of the way up the mountain. There will be a small opening in the ground just big enough to crawl through. Which is now I guess covered with dirt and rock from what we were told. He apparently discovered a mummy and several clay or mud type of pots containing rolled up pieces of paper and what he believed was silver coins. My father being the type of man he was, believed that these artifacts should be left alone. But I disagree, they should be found and shown to the world. It is my hope that someone will find this article and inform the proper authorities so that the artifacts can be recovered. I informed our local museum, but was chased off as if I was some kind of nut case. I have tried informing others, but got the same reaction. Can someone pass this information on to the correct person? I have no proof other than what my father had told us. Sorry!

Thanks,
Lowel
How would you europeans like it, if Africans started digging up the graves of your ancestors? Lets go dig up Washingtons tomb or Shakespear or Louis XVI or Elizabeth I.........it is absolutely disgusting that you think its scientific to dig up the graves of Africans and Native American and other melaniated races to 'study' the past but you won't study rip up your own ancestors graves to study them. This behaivor is shamefully disrespectful and should be stopped by all parties. LET THE DEAD BE!!!!
"Here's another Egyptian Mystery" from Doug Smith: interesting; as I slowly and carefully zoomed in on the lights, this appears to be sunlight reflections. I observed this in other areas, too. I wait patiently for the day we "find" records of past era. For example, what ever happened to the discovery of records beneath the paws of the Sphinx?
Possibly a spot light from the opening of a new Wal-Mart.
The real issue is whether punching a hole through many layers of archeological strata to get to a tomb is such a good idea when you lose the time line of each layer for any finds you discover.
news
joe? We do too dig up our own ancestors for various reasons...

Ever heard of Jamestown? Early colonists have been exhumed who have rectified images left by John Smith (among others), who said that the early colonists were basically upper class wastrels who almost caused the colony's failure by their unwillingness to work.

How about the Medici tombs in Italy? The residents of ancient Pompeii and Herculaneum? Christopher Columbus? Etruscan tombs? Stone Age and ancient Celtic barrows? Myriads of other examples abound, including those searching for DNA matches to identify other remains or to establish ancestry for living people.
There is so very much history lost to us by the vagaries of time, lost records, records deliberately destroyed by conquering peoples, etc. The search for knowledge of the past can also be based on the desires of a people to re-establish the pre-eminence of their culture in lost historical periods (Mali, Zimbabwe, etc.).

The more lost history we can fill in, the better! o very much knowledge has been lost or deliberately perverted. (All previous cultures have been derided as uncivilized and primitive by some who would denigrate the accomplishments of quite sophisticated peoples in order to claim superiority for their own culture, based on a clear superiority complex and unweening arrogance.)

Archaeologists today are not insensitive treasure hunters. They are attempting to find out the truth of the past for the edification of present and future peoples.
Hey guys, FYI i'm fourteen years old, but this is something i think u should know. Learning more about our past will only fill in blanks of long ago, but nothing has been done to help fill in the blanks for tomorrow. Even though there are historical records put in each year, wouldn't it be better to place time time capsules in the ground every fifty years? That way when the Next Generation wants to know about the era between the 1800's and 2500's they will only have to look in the capsules. Or we could tether things to the moon, it's not like things up there will be destroyed any time soon.

I mean the records on a computer chip need only be deleted, or given a large electromagnetic swipe.

Oh, and how will the criminal society react to this discovery. Seems to me like another graverobber story.
Read the story about the Florida Coral Castle, then you get an idea how the pyramids were built. The more mysteries you open, the more mysteries you get.
I wish I would be discovered 2000 years or more from now, I believe that each of us, yes even a commoner has contributions to our time, good and bad. I believe that those pharohs would be extremely pleased that after all this time, that they are known to us.
Would some of the opinions here change if the largest, most perfect, and most ancient Pyramids were not really tombs? We've always been taught that all the Pyramids in Egypt are tombs, and Egyptologists have placed their trust in that theory? Isn't a basic tenet of science to keep an open mind? It's only a theory. What if it isn't correct? What if the ancient Egyptians weren't as smart as we've been led to believe? If you have an open mind then read "The 12th Planet" by Zecharia Sitchen before you answer.

To Armaya: Your ideas are original. Never stop asking questions. Computer chips can be developed, may already have been developed, which cannot be erased by electromagnetism. The Moon and the Earth could be wiped out by a few well placed comets sooner than you think. Sometimes people destroy things just for meanness and sometimes because of religious ferver. For instance, we lost the great library at Alexandria and perhaps the keys to many mysteries because of a war long ago.
I wish all of the educated, presumably intelligent folks bent on pillaging pyramids were as interested in the present as they are the past. Maybe the pyramids are testimony to the obvious: even the greatest of civilizations fall when they loose their sense of responsibility to current concerns in order to focus on personal glory.
To All Those who Think it is white Europeans grave robbing, have you considered that every tomb opened including Tutankhamen's was robbed in antiquity? One of the biggest grave robbers, Abdul al-Rasser and clan, worked with Maspero (SCA) during the first part of the 1900's to finally save some of these from local pillagers and robber families such as his own. It is only because of the archaeologists that the Musee de Antiquitee has a lot of what it has today.
Human remains are no more "sacred" than any other object in the ground. Inanimate objects are just that - inanimate objects. If we can glean insight or knowledge by studying bones, beads or rattles why wouldn't we? Does anyone really believe "disturbing the dead" is an issue? Dead is dead. A carcass is a carcass whether human or animal. Voodoo is and idea - not reality.
I enjoyed every single entry...with some, I chuckled...with some, I was astounded at the thoughts coming from teenagers....go team!!! I love Egypt and all of its mysteries..and hope that we will discover the answers to the mysteries we need to know....and that the mysteries too large for our comprehension at this time are left for future generations and minds...and curious scholars...to uncover with respect and reveal to those of us who care to know more!!
I agree with Voll on both counts. I have researched ancient races, history and their religions for 30 plus years, and everytime I find an answer to a question, three more questions develop.

A. Lisa makes a very sound point. For everything goes in cycles, what we discover of/from the past will aide in our survival in the future. We may not live to see the importance of those discoveries, but what about our children and their children.

Archaeologists all over the world are making discoveries, yet the public hears very little about them, and unless you are within the special circle.. oh, well, the publics' interests are rarely considered. Even if one small artifact gave an impostant clue to the mysterious appearance on the people on earth and their superior technology, would that not be worth the effort? Personally, I think so.

What if: one simple little discover meant saving vast numbers of people or even our planet? Would that be considered important?

When I was younger, mid 50's, TV's were b&w, back before airconditioner, and pyramids were a greater mystery than the younger generation now could even imagine. I tried an experiment with some wire, making a pyramid and placed a small glass of milk in it, it set out in the open with only a net over it to keep bugs out of it, 2 weeks later it was as fresh as the day I started the experiment. I tried it with a sliced sweet potatoe, after 2 weeks I had a very sweet and tender snack. Therefore, there could be a vast amount of knowledge, still to be discovered. Or we can leave it alone and let people destroy it, and they would for their own selfice or fanatical reasons, that my friends, is a proven histroical fact.

The first concept of a leg transplant was in a mural painted in one of the then newly discovered tombs. The comments of the elders was simply: that had to be a fake, just someone trying to make a name for himself. So what discoveries lay in wait?
No TRUE ancient revelations will ever come to light, as long as Chief-Egyptian cover-up expert - Dr. Zahi Hawass, is allowed to do as he damn well pleases!!! A truly insidious man. He is Mr Egypt, and blocks ALL and any attempts at revealing the Full Truths which were purposely left for mankind under the Giza plateau.
Instead, HE will exclusively "reveal" to the world, the non-story of the "mysterious" tiny shafts in the gret pyramid.., lame or what?, the guy couldn't find his hawASS with both hands!. He's just a bought and paid lackey...
Thank You, Keith Gerber from New Mexico with your witty humor. And I think Steve is from another planet not from the future. [...] You made my day! :)
Suppose you believe in re-incarnation as I do.  I was an important Egyptian God's wife of Amun, and have actually have met my King (father) here in this life and in other lives as well.  I am certainly curious about the mysteries and how the past relates to the present and future.  The wealth of the archaeological finds is not in golden treasures but in the ancient knowledge which such research uncovers.
Nobody is listening to Justin Goss, Wheat Ridge, Colorado !
I wish I could check it out myself !!
Or is it already discovered by this time ??
Yes, it could be dust, but is really fine dust. Because , everywhere is sand and I don't see dust in the air like I see in this 2 points.
Jackie from Fostoria Michigan is dead right! Egyptians believed that to be mentioned, named, thought of or discussed after passing was a means of attaining immortality. And isn't that just the case?!? So, keep digging, but do so with respect for the past and the immortality you are awarding.
umm,i thought that this story was kinda cool. i love mummys.
If we don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it.
Fascinating story, I've always been interested on the subject. Though I agree with the Egyptian Archaeologists, if there's something there they should take there time escavating the site.The Pyramids are still a mystery and if they can find out more about them by being careful rather than just dig away, that's the best solution. That civilization built the largest man made structure that lasted that way for 2500 years. How they did it when the rest of mankind were still living in caves and where they got the architectural, engineering and man power skills to achieve it is still unknown. I would like to know how they pulled it off.
No discussion of Tel Armana is complete without understanding that Akhenaten and the Israelite pharaohs (second half of the 18th dynasty) were totally erased from history. Tel Armana was lost to the pharaoh Rameses, who would have erased that history too if he had known where it was. Archaeology at Tel Armana is important because it fills in a huge missing piece of biblical history, the time between Joseph as Wazir of Egypt and the Israelite servitude in Goshen under the 19th dynasty (Ramesses I).

Study history and it's pretty obvious, and yet none of this is recognized by Egyptologists or biblical scholars.
I understand why some would think unearthing the graves, remains, and artifacts of the past would seem barbaric to some. But there is an upside and a downside to everything, and when I think of all we stand to lose by letting the past remain buried--the cultures, the people, art, philosophy, the list is endless--it staggers my imagination. And we would not learn from the human race's past mistakes, either, and that has got to be some invaluable knowledge to have.
And there is just so much we would ultimately not know about ourselves.

And I have to say that ancient Egypt resonates strongly with me, too. I have looked upon Egyptian artifacts--and a mummy--and even just pictures of such, and cried, from a joy and a sadness I cannot explain except within the context that I must have lived then, too. Like I was home.

I am very grateful for we know and are still learning about that culture, as well as all others in our collective past. We are enriched beyond measure. And I think if explore with great respect, handling what--and whom--we find with dignity and tact, I think the dead might very well understand. And maybe even be glad to have made such a difference to us. I know they have to me.
there is a series of books that starts with Nothing in This Book is True, but it's Exactly how Things are by Bob Frissell. You guys should check it out.
No - the tomb of nefertiti has NOT been found, and if that is what people are trying to declare, it is out of desperation, not fact. It is not obvious enough that the people have lost respect for their own history and now are willing to go to enormous depths to prove this queen has been found. More the point that there is pride/ and vengence involved in screaming to the rest of the world, that this woman, who's face is known all over the world is not a mystery anymore .
http://www.egyptcx.netfirms.com/were_there_hebrew_pharaohs_egypt_2.htm

http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi000.htm

We must, at all costs, prove the Egyptians are the Ancient  people of David and Solomon, or World War 111 will be launched to enthrone the Khazars as rulers of this World. Read and see for yourselves, then try to rationalize mass murder by "God`s Chosen". Tut is much more than just any old Mummy!


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